/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General Anonymous 2021-07-13 (Tue) 13:50:55 No. 374637 [View All]
5th Edition: Real succdem hour edition
Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, Myanmar breaking apart or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us… hopefully!
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>>643285 one wonders how jeyaretnam managed to survive ah kong for thirty-forty years
if ah kong were around during this mess - i think the wp would cease to exist by christmas
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 13:27:08 No. 643721
>>643317 >right wing shithole <Singapore I’m not the biggest fan of Singapore and the PAP dictatorships of theirs but it’s a social democratic country. They don’t even had any right wing inclination with their nationalism being a complex can of worms. Most of the system is supported by welfare with the biggest neoliberal element being their tax haven and seaports status. That’s it.
302 !!5cs5Juuar6 2021-12-13 (Mon) 14:08:39 No. 643784
>>643317 >right wing shithole Except that it isn't the case.
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 16:12:05 No. 643901
>>643317 am i the only one cumming buckets to pritam singh now? what a bloody good performance, almost as good as jbj
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 16:19:58 No. 643903
>>643317 Holy shit; quit being a brainlet. Obviously Khan could talk about how shitty the cops are, but it is just fucking dumb to insert herself in that story of hers. She could have said that anecdote and PAP couldn’t prove shit!
Really is 画蛇添足
Anonymous 2021-12-18 (Sat) 02:08:02 No. 650252
>>643903 The virgin believe the witness vs The chad making shit up to troll the cops
>>649600 Surprisingly based
Anonymous 2021-12-18 (Sat) 02:19:29 No. 650257
>>649600 >labor strike >union BASED
Anonymous 2021-12-18 (Sat) 02:22:21 No. 650258
>>650252 Damn, imagine if Khan pulled a "Was only pretending to be retarded." at the very end of the saga…
Whole country will melt down.
302 !!doZbJ0GUWM 2021-12-25 (Sat) 01:52:34 No. 659571
>>659005 Merry Christmas to you!
MAY OUR LIBERATOR JESUS CHRIST BE WITH US Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 04:58:40 No. 659705
>>659571 your liberator, not ours
jesus and his followers have only bought famine and diseases onto our lands
Anonymous 2021-12-26 (Sun) 00:51:03 No. 660819
>>659705 Probably ironic but modern day Christianity is everything the real Jesus Christ wasn’t. Both Catholicism and Protestantism.
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 01:54:31 No. 663550
>>663500 Sure but then I fear we will face the same problems as EU. Like having Indonesia lording over the smaller countries due to its sheer size like Germany in the EU. It would be difficult for Indonesia to accept having a disporpotionate influence in ASEAN in exchange for regional autonomy.
And all the problems of creating our own economic bloc. All the European Left parties are soft Eurosceptic for a reason. China and USA will definitely fuel such ASEAN skepticism in political groups and parties to advance their agenda like Russia does with the Identity and Democracy group in Europe.
I heard AMLO is proposing some South America bloc with some countries like Cuba and Venezuela. Worth seeing if he can pull it off and emulating. But yea a pan-SEA bloc will at least require 'democratic' and 'progressive' centre-left parties that can look past their nationalism to build it.
Anonymous 2021-12-29 (Wed) 11:06:22 No. 665440
>>663550 >Sure but then I fear we will face the same problems as EU. Like having Indonesia lording over the smaller countries due to its sheer size like Germany in the EU. Very much so. Indonesia have the same interbloc colonial politics as Germany with Eastern Europe albeit in even more explicit level over both Timor Leste and West Papua. Of which was built and fostered by the US proxy Australia. But I think this position will be untenable in the long run if ASEAN to become more independent. Indonesia and a lot of the island nations of SEA was still not truly recovered from the Asian market crash of the 90s and ruling over a economic bloc will stretch the already thinning polities thinner. The best case scenario is a political stalemate between 2 to 3 countries of who being the top. Balancing the economic and political outreach in 3 spheres of overlapping influence. With the only agreement being: “yeah we compete against each other but we shouldn’t let foreign intervention to turn anyone into a puppet.” The polity should be made for the incentives for cooperation heavily outweighs selling out.
>And all the problems of creating our own economic bloc. All the European Left parties are soft Eurosceptic for a reason. I would say that some careful comparison should be made between us and the EU. As the EU, contrary to the narrative of many vocal minority, is an entity still haven’t escaped from its creator the US. Evidently noted by how easily the US was able to convince the UK to leave through propaganda and lobbying. It’s not much more independent than it was during the Cold War. Plus they have a system to vent out most of their nationalism to other markets with their pseudo neocolonial possessions elsewhere, now only limited to Africa. The rest of the extreme ultra nationalism is made to form the far right conservative wall to surround Russia and protect itself. The only part where they’re slightly left (as in having a comprehensive free movement and welfare) are places where they needed to be to gather support. Like Central Europe and Scandinavia.
SEA don’t have an imperialized market except for the aforementioned Indonesian holdings. And the whole goal of making ourselves stronger was to remove major powers influence so having a big brother backing is out of the question. However we do have a unique advantage in that the US had abandoned the region since the 90s with the threat of the Soviet Union gone and will take time to fully reassert its dominance over the capitalist countries. China itself hasn’t had any big foothold except for in Cambodia (Myanmar and Thailand is still to be seen and the Philippines is just in a constant state of flip flopping). So I think we have about 20 years of free time to get our shit together.
First is to expand the regional transportation with less foreign funding. Then is as you said, something of a pink or red wave to stop to the nationalist bickering.
Anonymous 2021-12-30 (Thu) 17:22:24 No. 666995
Are we cycled? Should we made a new thread?
>>665440 I guess you may be right about the economic independence (or at least its potential) for SEA but I doubt a pink or red wave will sweep this region within 20 years to make ASEAN possible.
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 12:21:51 No. 668005
>>666995 No we don’t need to. We got upgraded into cycling a month ago. I’ll archive the thread from time to time in case anything is lost.
>I doubt a pink or red wave will sweep this region within 20 years to make ASEAN possible. Vietnam and other sucdems need to step up their game and stop with the cucked non interventionist stance.
302 Found !!Q1QSLK9e.2 2021-12-31 (Fri) 17:07:29 No. 668155
HAPPY NEW YEAR /SEA/!!!
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 21:22:08 No. 668361
>>668155 Happy new year guys!
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 02:47:06 No. 668840
>>668155 Best case scenario is that they’ll pass the new minimum wage increase this year. It has been delayed enough.
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 11:37:57 No. 669177
>>668005 Cycling kills the freshness of the general after a while though.
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 22:27:31 No. 669726
So what's the actual deal with the Rohingya? Are they actually native to that part of Myanmar they got kicked out of? Western NGOs pretended to care about them when it was happening but no longer
Anonymous 2022-01-03 (Mon) 08:50:39 No. 671803
>>669177 True. However two SEAnons are part of the mods so you can try addressing them on the local or general matrix chat. I would like to make new threads too but I don’t know whether it is a popular opinion that garner change.
Anonymous 2022-01-03 (Mon) 10:02:54 No. 671838
>>671803 >However two SEAnons are part of the mods There is only one and
I am asking you to do it 302 Found !!DbiSlR6.Dw 2022-01-03 (Mon) 11:52:39 No. 671884
>>671865 >Is it worth supporting? Depends on who you ask; personally yes, albeit what I want is that Papua becomes a free association with Indonesia just like what Cook Islands and Niue are both of which free associated states of New Zealand.
>Do Aussies really give them aid, as Indonesians on Reddit claim I don't really know much about that matter.
>Is it true that Indonesia treats them like an internal colony? Yes. With lots of human rights violations and misinformation of course.
>Why does CPP supports them Papuans are victims to human rights violations.
Anonymous 2022-01-03 (Mon) 15:19:53 No. 672067
>>389969 Lol, it's not hard at all. How retarded are you?
Anonymous 2022-01-03 (Mon) 15:22:57 No. 672071
>>391855 Imagine the hubris
You, a western faggot. Probably never worked a real job or supported yourself. Probably have a shitty life, no success or achievements to speak of.
Moreover…
Everything you know about Marxism and the world is from books.
Also…
Assume you know the way forward for Vietnam better than Vietnamese.
Literally the definition of Dunning Kruger syndrome
Anonymous 2022-01-03 (Mon) 17:10:47 No. 672284
>>672071 Stick this neo calvinist bullshit up your ass cocksucker
Anonymous 2022-01-04 (Tue) 02:29:54 No. 672968
>>672071 >the moment I post without a flag I get called a westerner by a westerner Curious don’t you think? But seriously though, the current welfare capitalism is gay as shit because it is still not adequate in dealing with inequality outside of the WB and IMF bracket.
Anonymous 2022-01-06 (Thu) 05:07:18 No. 677279
>>672071 you are literally talking to a Vietnamese communist you dengist cuuuuuuuunt
Anonymous 2022-01-06 (Thu) 05:55:17 No. 677356
>>374637 >image 2 >SEA stands united against chinese revisionism All of SEA is communist?
Anonymous 2022-01-06 (Thu) 05:56:40 No. 677361
>>677356 More like the future communist SEA would look like this I suppose.
Anonymous 2022-01-06 (Thu) 06:30:36 No. 677407
>>677276 >Indonesia's collapse inevitable Hope that it starts a new chapter for Maritime SEA. Especially a federation of Maphilindo.
Anonymous 2022-01-06 (Thu) 08:03:10 No. 677465
>>677361 Amen. If only all monarchies were overthrown and Singapore descends into a crisis.
Anonymous 2022-01-06 (Thu) 12:53:40 No. 677627
>>677407 more like neo-majapahit amirite
imagine if the nusantara reinvents a casteless progressive hindu-buddhism and whips south asia's regressive ass with it
Anonymous 2022-01-07 (Fri) 07:38:04 No. 679354
>>677407 A United independent Papua should be an ASEAN member. Just to not only break out of the control of Australia (i.e. US puppet).
Anonymous 2022-01-07 (Fri) 08:22:17 No. 679405
Vietnam should annex the entire mainland SEA. down to Singapore. All of Borneo goes to Indonesia. Fewer large countries will be more economically viable.
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 14:49:22 No. 681691
>economically viable What are you? A neoliberal? As socialist we should strive for actual progressive production and development. Not a gigantic empire with red aesthetics. A Union with many socialist republics is much more preferable.
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 15:09:13 No. 681719
>>679405 >All of Borneo goes to Indonesia you mean under the control of Penajam-Kutai? Amen for that. We want a socialist Maphilindo back. Down with Sembilan Naga!!!
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