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When will they realize being lead by petty bourgeois academes is a bad idea?

When will they realize changing culture is a poor idea?

When will they stop screaming revisionism at others and realize how revisionist they are with their dogmatism?

When will they stop splintering?

When will they focus on long-term goals instead of petty acts of violence and shock-value?

When will they stop making excuses because "What do you not get about muh PROTRACTED people's war?"

When will they win a revolution?

Never

So join in on the hate. Fuck this petty-bourgeois ideology, along with other failed movements that belong in the dustbin of history (like Trotskyism). Post your copypastas, videos, memes, articles, everything.

When will they realize changing culture is a poor idea?

When will they stop screaming revisionism at others and realize how revisionist they are with their dogmatism?

When will they stop splintering?

When will they focus on long-term goals instead of petty acts of violence and shock-value?

When will they stop making excuses because "What do you not get about muh PROTRACTED people's war?"

When will they win a revolution?

Never

So join in on the hate. Fuck this petty-bourgeois ideology, along with other failed movements that belong in the dustbin of history (like Trotskyism). Post your copypastas, videos, memes, articles, everything.

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Maoism? Communism? Hoxha? I just wanna shoot down British ships in the Falklands

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maopill me about gonzalo, why he started attacking peasants and the people he should be protecting? that only caused poor people to hate him.

AFAIK even Pedro Castillo (Pencilman) was a rondero, a rondero was a type of self-defense force against shining path.

AFAIK even Pedro Castillo (Pencilman) was a rondero, a rondero was a type of self-defense force against shining path.

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>>392840

Even for the historical conditions of China, some of Mao's ideas (particularly AFTER he was in power, his guerilla warfare theory is solid) were straight up retarded. Three worlds theory (and trying to ally with the USA against the USSR) was a particularly egregious example.

Even for the historical conditions of China, some of Mao's ideas (particularly AFTER he was in power, his guerilla warfare theory is solid) were straight up retarded. Three worlds theory (and trying to ally with the USA against the USSR) was a particularly egregious example.

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That said, we only seem to have a handful of Maoists here so I'm not really sure what OP is hoping to accomplish with this thread.

Almost everyone on /leftypol/ (except for me (a Trot), a couple anarchists, like one demsucc, and again, a few Maoists) are just old school style MLs.

Almost everyone on /leftypol/ (except for me (a Trot), a couple anarchists, like one demsucc, and again, a few Maoists) are just old school style MLs.

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it's a nice thread i guess

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>>392956

>we are MLMpM here

"We" really are not. If anything /leftypol/ has shown more sympathy to Sison every time the subject has been brought up. And that's because he actually builds on Marx, Lenin and Mao, instead of, like Guzman, becoming a megalomaniac, declaring*himself* the Mass Line and acting like a fucking narodnik.

>we are MLMpM here

"We" really are not. If anything /leftypol/ has shown more sympathy to Sison every time the subject has been brought up. And that's because he actually builds on Marx, Lenin and Mao, instead of, like Guzman, becoming a megalomaniac, declaring

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>>392975

How much territory do they have in Mindanao? Like a campus?

https://thediplomat.com/2021/02/an-end-in-sight-for-the-philippines-maoist-insurgency/

How much territory do they have in Mindanao? Like a campus?

https://thediplomat.com/2021/02/an-end-in-sight-for-the-philippines-maoist-insurgency/

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Is Maoism even have any relevance today other than pointless shit flinging in Nepal and never ending people’s war in Philippines? The Naxalites are a failure, the Sendero Luminoso is in jail.

Hell the only wave of popularity for Maoism in the west came and went in only a decade in the west. And they only got that boost due to offering something more at home with the spirit of the anti-imperialist struggle worldwide than the "old left” while staying in tune with the most militant currents which the mass movements of the 1960s especially the US civil rights and black liberations. In short, to the battered radical left post-McCarthyist red scare, it was a revolutionary alternative to the inertia of

the "old left" Browderism and union contentedness. Which immediately collapsed once Mao and his clique turned to support fucking UNITA of all people against the MPLA and trying to prevent Indochina from uniting.

Toward Maoism I always take the position of Khrushchev. It’s not that I disagree with the movements that use it but I’m largely completely oppose to the Maoist dogma that dragged those movements down. Maoism is something way more chauvinistic than even Sun Yatsen’s thoughts while dressing up in a facade of anarchistic popularism. It simply has way too much appeal to the reactionary opportunists with its concession toward the national petit bourgeoisie and backward peasantry. Instead of educating the peasantry of Marxist theory to propel their proletarianization, Maoism turned it on it’s head by reinterpreting the peasant’s need with Marxist buzzwords. That’s why the Gang of Four, black nationalists within Black Panthers and the /pol/ pot, Heng Sary clique of reactionaries was able to get into power. Hell the FBI can do it too! Just had their agents reword their own anti-communist training with buzzwords like “mass line”, “people’s struggle”,… and bam! A perfect western Maoist liberator!

The other big criticism toward Maoism I have is their tactics. It’s simply not applicable anymore even in the poor global south. Sure it was extremely effective even till the early 60s, something the DPRK should’ve done to unite their country back then instead of a pure Soviet-style military invasion strategy. However by the time the Tet offensive came around it already showed many weaknesses that the US military was able to effectively counter. The western imperialist had developed urbanize fortification to draw in the the peasantry into the cities, basically starving the Maoist militias of their support base and materials. Sure they will never be able to fully kill the insurgents, but it worked in containing and stalling for enough time for them to increase urbanization methodically. Turning a popular uprisings into banditry or remote self-efficient communes to survive, stopping them from spreading further. The Nepalese revolution only circumvented this because they followed the Cuban model of revolution by Co-opting the liberal anti-monarchists.

Hell the only wave of popularity for Maoism in the west came and went in only a decade in the west. And they only got that boost due to offering something more at home with the spirit of the anti-imperialist struggle worldwide than the "old left” while staying in tune with the most militant currents which the mass movements of the 1960s especially the US civil rights and black liberations. In short, to the battered radical left post-McCarthyist red scare, it was a revolutionary alternative to the inertia of

the "old left" Browderism and union contentedness. Which immediately collapsed once Mao and his clique turned to support fucking UNITA of all people against the MPLA and trying to prevent Indochina from uniting.

Toward Maoism I always take the position of Khrushchev. It’s not that I disagree with the movements that use it but I’m largely completely oppose to the Maoist dogma that dragged those movements down. Maoism is something way more chauvinistic than even Sun Yatsen’s thoughts while dressing up in a facade of anarchistic popularism. It simply has way too much appeal to the reactionary opportunists with its concession toward the national petit bourgeoisie and backward peasantry. Instead of educating the peasantry of Marxist theory to propel their proletarianization, Maoism turned it on it’s head by reinterpreting the peasant’s need with Marxist buzzwords. That’s why the Gang of Four, black nationalists within Black Panthers and the /pol/ pot, Heng Sary clique of reactionaries was able to get into power. Hell the FBI can do it too! Just had their agents reword their own anti-communist training with buzzwords like “mass line”, “people’s struggle”,… and bam! A perfect western Maoist liberator!

The other big criticism toward Maoism I have is their tactics. It’s simply not applicable anymore even in the poor global south. Sure it was extremely effective even till the early 60s, something the DPRK should’ve done to unite their country back then instead of a pure Soviet-style military invasion strategy. However by the time the Tet offensive came around it already showed many weaknesses that the US military was able to effectively counter. The western imperialist had developed urbanize fortification to draw in the the peasantry into the cities, basically starving the Maoist militias of their support base and materials. Sure they will never be able to fully kill the insurgents, but it worked in containing and stalling for enough time for them to increase urbanization methodically. Turning a popular uprisings into banditry or remote self-efficient communes to survive, stopping them from spreading further. The Nepalese revolution only circumvented this because they followed the Cuban model of revolution by Co-opting the liberal anti-monarchists.

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>>393533

Alright time to boiling some FAGGOTs

Alright time to boiling some FAGGOTs

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>>392823

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>>392847

>engels tried to wage PPW in Germany

>Lenin and Mao didn't have massive movements in unique circumstances as opposed to trying to LARP as Mao in an urbanized country by carbombing randos during peace times (or going on for 50+ years without anything to show)

>engels tried to wage PPW in Germany

>Lenin and Mao didn't have massive movements in unique circumstances as opposed to trying to LARP as Mao in an urbanized country by carbombing randos during peace times (or going on for 50+ years without anything to show)

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>>394165

I mean, you have ML in China, ML in Cuba, ML in Vietnam, ML in the DPRK, ML in Laos and now ML in Peru, all doing their separate thing, guided by theory in common.

But just look at Maoism lol. You'd get shot in a fucking struggle session for suggesting the slightest difference

I mean, you have ML in China, ML in Cuba, ML in Vietnam, ML in the DPRK, ML in Laos and now ML in Peru, all doing their separate thing, guided by theory in common.

But just look at Maoism lol. You'd get shot in a fucking struggle session for suggesting the slightest difference

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>>394171

>ML in china

do you rlly believe this? also is not like ml movements in those countries haven't fucked over before because of dogmatism shit is a deviation that can not be avoided by simply stating you believe in the theory

>>394178

stop acting like a retard he mentioned those particular countries for a reason if you just want to talk about countries with some mls in it you would be talking abt the whole world

>ML in china

do you rlly believe this? also is not like ml movements in those countries haven't fucked over before because of dogmatism shit is a deviation that can not be avoided by simply stating you believe in the theory

>>394178

stop acting like a retard he mentioned those particular countries for a reason if you just want to talk about countries with some mls in it you would be talking abt the whole world

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>>394171

>ML in Cuba

That would be foco theory, much closer to Maoism kek.

>ML in the DPRK

Double kek

Bruh Maoist china literally won the Korean War for the north. What in ever living fuck are you talking about

Anti Maoists literally can’t into the history of socialism at all

>ML in Cuba

That would be foco theory, much closer to Maoism kek.

>ML in the DPRK

Double kek

Bruh Maoist china literally won the Korean War for the north. What in ever living fuck are you talking about

Anti Maoists literally can’t into the history of socialism at all

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>>394165

Maoists (and other dogmatists like Hoxhaists or "anti-revisionist" MLs) unironically believe that both Stalin and Mao were stabbed in the back by the evil revisionist cliques in the parties that had been plotting to take over ever since the inception of the respective states, literal Great Man Theory and neglecting the fact that later leaders were elected just as if not more democratically by the people at large

They have the arrogance to believe that their decades-old, highly situational and circumstantial position wasn't considered in its time and not taken because of reasons they haven't researched or willfully ignore

Maoists (and other dogmatists like Hoxhaists or "anti-revisionist" MLs) unironically believe that both Stalin and Mao were stabbed in the back by the evil revisionist cliques in the parties that had been plotting to take over ever since the inception of the respective states, literal Great Man Theory and neglecting the fact that later leaders were elected just as if not more democratically by the people at large

They have the arrogance to believe that their decades-old, highly situational and circumstantial position wasn't considered in its time and not taken because of reasons they haven't researched or willfully ignore

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>>394196

>just bits and pieces of history

You mean actually knowing history. “The DPRK was orthodox ML” is complete retardation. Korea was almost entirely peasants, they then fought a people’s war (protracted, its still ongoing to this day) and the victory was secured by Maoist China. Key to the idea of Juche was that the anti colonial struggles had taken hundreds of years, yes, it was Marxism Leninism applied to the Korean Peninsula, just like Maoism was Marxism Leninism applied to China. So what are you arguing, that no distinction can be made? It’s all ML? Okay, then MLM in its various forms is Marxism Leninism applied to Peru, India, The Phillipines etc etc.

What then is your point?

>just bits and pieces of history

You mean actually knowing history. “The DPRK was orthodox ML” is complete retardation. Korea was almost entirely peasants, they then fought a people’s war (protracted, its still ongoing to this day) and the victory was secured by Maoist China. Key to the idea of Juche was that the anti colonial struggles had taken hundreds of years, yes, it was Marxism Leninism applied to the Korean Peninsula, just like Maoism was Marxism Leninism applied to China. So what are you arguing, that no distinction can be made? It’s all ML? Okay, then MLM in its various forms is Marxism Leninism applied to Peru, India, The Phillipines etc etc.

What then is your point?

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>>394215

>accuses others of great man theory

>but, le perfect Soviet Premier

What is your argument exactly except deflection, Gonzalo lost right, and Stalin lost too.. which apparently, according to the original “Gonzalo lost” poster is a legit statement to make and not retarded at all, but now you seem to think in fact it is retarded to make such statements. Curious. Very curious dengoid tell me more

>accuses others of great man theory

>but, le perfect Soviet Premier

What is your argument exactly except deflection, Gonzalo lost right, and Stalin lost too.. which apparently, according to the original “Gonzalo lost” poster is a legit statement to make and not retarded at all, but now you seem to think in fact it is retarded to make such statements. Curious. Very curious dengoid tell me more

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>When will they realize being lead by petty bourgeois academes is a bad idea?

Gonzalo literally visited China for a time and abandoned his career to lead a proletarian revolution and become the world's foremost political prisoner. He was utterly committed to the masses.

>When will they realize changing culture is a poor idea?

Learn basic base and superstructure brainlet. Can you name a single cultural attitude challenged during the GPCR where it was wrong to do so?

>When will they stop screaming revisionism at others and realize how revisionist they are with their dogmatism?

As if when Maoists call reformists and "AES" supporters revisionists we don't back it up with theory and reasoning

>When will they stop splintering?

I have no fucking idea what you're talking about, when have Maoists splintered from each other?

>When will they focus on long-term goals instead of petty acts of violence and shock-value?

Again this is completely uninformed. Maoists in the US (including the former Red Guards Austin and its members who are still involved in activism) do flashy shit which is absolutely based like BTFOing DSA members, scribbling graffiti and planning combative May Day marches while *also* conquering local power and gaining experience for the long-term by participating and winning leadership in labor/tenant/student struggles and deepening political education of themselves and new cadres.

>When will they stop making excuses because "What do you not get about muh PROTRACTED people's war?"

Because PPW is universal and no it doesn't just mean surrounding the cities from the countryside, there is extensive literature on this and PPWs have had a degree of success in establishing urban base areas (Peru and India) and non-PPW groups have incidentally done the same (IRA). The PCP applied PPW in the best and most meticulous way and they reached strategic equilibrium within 12 years.

>When will they win a revolution?

It will be in your lifetime faggot. Lurking and posting in Maoist communities online I have never seen another political subculture full of anyone even a fraction as devoted, humble and disciplined as they are

Barely anybody gives a shit about your pathetic "hate" thread which you obviously made because you lost or saw someone losing an argument to MLMs online and are cowering on an anonymous forum. Also funny that you're so insecure and wanting an echochamber you made your own thread instead of making these critical remarks in the already-existing MLM thread. Go fuck yourself OP

Gonzalo literally visited China for a time and abandoned his career to lead a proletarian revolution and become the world's foremost political prisoner. He was utterly committed to the masses.

>When will they realize changing culture is a poor idea?

Learn basic base and superstructure brainlet. Can you name a single cultural attitude challenged during the GPCR where it was wrong to do so?

>When will they stop screaming revisionism at others and realize how revisionist they are with their dogmatism?

As if when Maoists call reformists and "AES" supporters revisionists we don't back it up with theory and reasoning

>When will they stop splintering?

I have no fucking idea what you're talking about, when have Maoists splintered from each other?

>When will they focus on long-term goals instead of petty acts of violence and shock-value?

Again this is completely uninformed. Maoists in the US (including the former Red Guards Austin and its members who are still involved in activism) do flashy shit which is absolutely based like BTFOing DSA members, scribbling graffiti and planning combative May Day marches while *also* conquering local power and gaining experience for the long-term by participating and winning leadership in labor/tenant/student struggles and deepening political education of themselves and new cadres.

>When will they stop making excuses because "What do you not get about muh PROTRACTED people's war?"

Because PPW is universal and no it doesn't just mean surrounding the cities from the countryside, there is extensive literature on this and PPWs have had a degree of success in establishing urban base areas (Peru and India) and non-PPW groups have incidentally done the same (IRA). The PCP applied PPW in the best and most meticulous way and they reached strategic equilibrium within 12 years.

>When will they win a revolution?

It will be in your lifetime faggot. Lurking and posting in Maoist communities online I have never seen another political subculture full of anyone even a fraction as devoted, humble and disciplined as they are

Barely anybody gives a shit about your pathetic "hate" thread which you obviously made because you lost or saw someone losing an argument to MLMs online and are cowering on an anonymous forum. Also funny that you're so insecure and wanting an echochamber you made your own thread instead of making these critical remarks in the already-existing MLM thread. Go fuck yourself OP

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>>394221

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>>394221

>>but, le perfect Soviet Premier

no one ever said this stalin stills remains as completelly different to the retard who led a bunch of students into the mountains to kill peasants and then got his whole movement anhihilated by being captured nothing like this ever happened to stalin

>>but, le perfect Soviet Premier

no one ever said this stalin stills remains as completelly different to the retard who led a bunch of students into the mountains to kill peasants and then got his whole movement anhihilated by being captured nothing like this ever happened to stalin

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>>394226

>Gonzalo literally visited China for a time and abandoned his career to lead a proletarian revolution and become the world's foremost political prisoner. He was utterly committed to the masses.

abandoning your career to go convince some students to join your cult that literally venerates you like a relligious figure, sending them to die on the mountains all while you chill in the city is not that much of a sacrifice

>Gonzalo literally visited China for a time and abandoned his career to lead a proletarian revolution and become the world's foremost political prisoner. He was utterly committed to the masses.

abandoning your career to go convince some students to join your cult that literally venerates you like a relligious figure, sending them to die on the mountains all while you chill in the city is not that much of a sacrifice

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>>394234

gonzalo didn't just "fucked up" here and there he literally got his movement anhilated along with the rest of the leftist movement in peru only after decades of hard work the damage made by the shining path has started to being fixed (not without the interference of the bastardized remnants SP ofc)

gonzalo didn't just "fucked up" here and there he literally got his movement anhilated along with the rest of the leftist movement in peru only after decades of hard work the damage made by the shining path has started to being fixed (not without the interference of the bastardized remnants SP ofc)

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>>394236

Didn't he visit during the cultural revolution as well? Which is worse because that was literally a petty bourgeois movement. Let's just arm peasants with slogans instead of actually proletarianizing them!

(Collectivizing before further industrialization was a bad fucking idea).

Didn't he visit during the cultural revolution as well? Which is worse because that was literally a petty bourgeois movement. Let's just arm peasants with slogans instead of actually proletarianizing them!

(Collectivizing before further industrialization was a bad fucking idea).

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>>394239

>he got his movement annihilated

No, that would be the fascist, genocidal state you people consistently apologise for.

Gonzalo made the correct decision.

>brazilian communists

unarmed, slaughtered

>chilean communists

unarmed, slaughtered

>indonesian communists

unarmed, mao literally told them to arm, one before, slaughtered,

on the other hand

>Nicaraguan communists

heavily armed ,still around

>Cuban Communists

heavily armed, still around

>tupamoros

heavily armed, won out eventually

DO YOU SEE A PATTERN, CAN YOU MAYBE UNDERSTAND WHY MAYBE POSSIBLY SUCH A MILITARISED MOVEMENT WAS POSSIBLY MAYBE THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE LATE 80S AND EARLY 90S YOU DUMBASS FUCKING RETARD LIBSHIT CUNT. FUCK OFF, SICK, SICK, SICK TO DEATH OF YOU FUCKING WESTERN LIBS ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW A THING. YOU DON'T. WATCHING CALEB MAUPIN STREAMS IS NOT KNOWING THINGS. IT ISN'T READ A GOD DAMN BOOK, AND STOP LITERALLY SIMPING FOR THE CIA.

>OOOOH THE DAMAGE OF SP IS ONLY JUST BEING REPAIRED

EL EM AY OH UYGHA YOU SAY THIS IN DEFENSE OF STALIN? WHO YES, 10000% SHOULD BE DEFENDED, OF COURSE, BUT APPARENTLY TO RETARDS LIKE YOU, ONLY SP HAS DAMAGED THE REPUTATION OF THE LEFT, AND LIBERALS ACTUALLY FUCKING LOVE STALIN AND NOBODY SAYS BAD THINGS ABOUT HIM

HOLY

FUCKING

SHIT YOU ARE SUCH AN INTERNET BRAINED FUCKING SPASTIC.

>he got his movement annihilated

No, that would be the fascist, genocidal state you people consistently apologise for.

Gonzalo made the correct decision.

>brazilian communists

unarmed, slaughtered

>chilean communists

unarmed, slaughtered

>indonesian communists

unarmed, mao literally told them to arm, one before, slaughtered,

on the other hand

>Nicaraguan communists

heavily armed ,still around

>Cuban Communists

heavily armed, still around

>tupamoros

heavily armed, won out eventually

DO YOU SEE A PATTERN, CAN YOU MAYBE UNDERSTAND WHY MAYBE POSSIBLY SUCH A MILITARISED MOVEMENT WAS POSSIBLY MAYBE THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE LATE 80S AND EARLY 90S YOU DUMBASS FUCKING RETARD LIBSHIT CUNT. FUCK OFF, SICK, SICK, SICK TO DEATH OF YOU FUCKING WESTERN LIBS ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW A THING. YOU DON'T. WATCHING CALEB MAUPIN STREAMS IS NOT KNOWING THINGS. IT ISN'T READ A GOD DAMN BOOK, AND STOP LITERALLY SIMPING FOR THE CIA.

>OOOOH THE DAMAGE OF SP IS ONLY JUST BEING REPAIRED

EL EM AY OH UYGHA YOU SAY THIS IN DEFENSE OF STALIN? WHO YES, 10000% SHOULD BE DEFENDED, OF COURSE, BUT APPARENTLY TO RETARDS LIKE YOU, ONLY SP HAS DAMAGED THE REPUTATION OF THE LEFT, AND LIBERALS ACTUALLY FUCKING LOVE STALIN AND NOBODY SAYS BAD THINGS ABOUT HIM

HOLY

FUCKING

SHIT YOU ARE SUCH AN INTERNET BRAINED FUCKING SPASTIC.

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tell me how

>but gonzalo lost :(

>people died :(

is literally any different of an analysis then

>but communism killed gorrilions and collapsed and everyone was in bread lines

that is what you sound like when you say things like

>but anon gonzalo lost

you're a fucking moron, you deserve to be boiled

>but gonzalo lost :(

>people died :(

is literally any different of an analysis then

>but communism killed gorrilions and collapsed and everyone was in bread lines

that is what you sound like when you say things like

>but anon gonzalo lost

you're a fucking moron, you deserve to be boiled

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>>394236

>cult that literally venerates you like a religious figure

Is there any instance of the PCP attributing superhuman feats to Gonzalo? or omniscience? or exceptional ability in all things? They popularized his image because all movements of all classes have leaders who are developed by their own abilities and historical circumstance. There is nothing to suggest that they did anything except recognize his positive qualities and accomplishments while acknowledging that everyone can make errors.

>>394247

By diminishing the legitimacy and propagandistic strengths of bourgeois forces seeking to restore capitalism.

>>394237

You will find them on Twitter, Discord, Reddit and so on if you seek them out

>>394243

soy

>cult that literally venerates you like a religious figure

Is there any instance of the PCP attributing superhuman feats to Gonzalo? or omniscience? or exceptional ability in all things? They popularized his image because all movements of all classes have leaders who are developed by their own abilities and historical circumstance. There is nothing to suggest that they did anything except recognize his positive qualities and accomplishments while acknowledging that everyone can make errors.

>>394247

By diminishing the legitimacy and propagandistic strengths of bourgeois forces seeking to restore capitalism.

>>394237

You will find them on Twitter, Discord, Reddit and so on if you seek them out

>>394243

soy

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>>394226

>foremost political prisoner

No one outside of leftist circles or Peru knows what a Gonzalo is, starting a revolution means literally nothing, he also called it off when captured and got captured a la Scooby Doo detective work in an upper middle class neighborhood

>"If a state doesn't do X policy then they are not true socialism"

Cannot into dialectics, a robot with script

>absolutely based like BTFOing DSA members

Being public nuisances, babbling about niche failed movements and beating up socdems (or alternatively, getting beat up by the cops) doesn't make you revolutionary, it makes you a LARPer lmfao, no normal person was converted by some PMC college kids with red bags bothering normal people trying to have fun, touch grass

>Universal because I say it is, despite it only having worked in extremely rural countries

>some schizos sloganeering means they were just as powerful as the Peruvian state, which had more guns, more soldiers, more of the population on its side/boundaries during the entire conflict, etc.

>in your lifetime faggot

<Philippines has been at it since 1969

<Naxalites since 1967

<Shining Path crumbled in the late 90s and was dead by 2000

Nepal was actually successful, let's be fair (but it was also extremely rural and a good chunk of the support was anti-monarchist/republican, and they've done jack shit beyond set up the equivalent of the Russian Provisional Government)

>foremost political prisoner

No one outside of leftist circles or Peru knows what a Gonzalo is, starting a revolution means literally nothing, he also called it off when captured and got captured a la Scooby Doo detective work in an upper middle class neighborhood

>"If a state doesn't do X policy then they are not true socialism"

Cannot into dialectics, a robot with script

>absolutely based like BTFOing DSA members

Being public nuisances, babbling about niche failed movements and beating up socdems (or alternatively, getting beat up by the cops) doesn't make you revolutionary, it makes you a LARPer lmfao, no normal person was converted by some PMC college kids with red bags bothering normal people trying to have fun, touch grass

>Universal because I say it is, despite it only having worked in extremely rural countries

>some schizos sloganeering means they were just as powerful as the Peruvian state, which had more guns, more soldiers, more of the population on its side/boundaries during the entire conflict, etc.

>in your lifetime faggot

<Philippines has been at it since 1969

<Naxalites since 1967

<Shining Path crumbled in the late 90s and was dead by 2000

Nepal was actually successful, let's be fair (but it was also extremely rural and a good chunk of the support was anti-monarchist/republican, and they've done jack shit beyond set up the equivalent of the Russian Provisional Government)

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>>394253

The CPC is the most powerful communist party in existence today.

Palestine is a tiny matter in the grand scheme of things that Maoists like to moralfag without doing anything just for leverage against Chayna!

You are irrelevant. You can only scream Xionist while thinking such a portmanteau is so clever.

You can only magnify one tiny instance in China's foreign policy that matches with your bullshit understanding of Lenin's imperialism. I have never seen any proof of monopoly capitalists actually having power over the CPC other than 'XI IS A BILLIONAIRE AND THEY ALLOW BILLIONAIRES IN THE PARTY!!! REEEE!'. You stop at the analysis, stopping at isolated events, but can never view things as a fucking system.

The CPC is the most powerful communist party in existence today.

Palestine is a tiny matter in the grand scheme of things that Maoists like to moralfag without doing anything just for leverage against Chayna!

You are irrelevant. You can only scream Xionist while thinking such a portmanteau is so clever.

You can only magnify one tiny instance in China's foreign policy that matches with your bullshit understanding of Lenin's imperialism. I have never seen any proof of monopoly capitalists actually having power over the CPC other than 'XI IS A BILLIONAIRE AND THEY ALLOW BILLIONAIRES IN THE PARTY!!! REEEE!'. You stop at the analysis, stopping at isolated events, but can never view things as a fucking system.

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>>394261

>The CPC is the most powerful communist party in existence today.

>communism is when you are consistently allied with the CIA in literally every instance

>angola

>afghanistan

>nicaragua

>the phillipines

>israel

>palestine is a small matter

kek

>being pro palestinian is moralism

no you retarded fuck, its anti imperialism in a very material way. Building US military bases is not anti imperialist and therefore not communist. You cannot be pro imperialist and a communist, communism is anti capitalism, and imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism.

>You are irrelevant.

you aren't even getting Xi bucks you do it for free, that is the saddest part, bernie got cucked, corbyn got cucked, so now Xi is your great hope.

>You can only magnify one tiny instance in China's foreign policy

its chinas entire forien policy, in all of the above mention places, all of which have been taking an active roll in the slaughter of communists.

>I have never seen any proof of monopoly capitalists actually having power over the CPC

if communists had the power they wouldn't slaughter communists.

>>394264

lmao

> Tupac Shakur revoltuionary movement are the actual leftists.

you better not be the same retard saying SP had no support LOL

>The CPC is the most powerful communist party in existence today.

>communism is when you are consistently allied with the CIA in literally every instance

>angola

>afghanistan

>nicaragua

>the phillipines

>israel

>palestine is a small matter

kek

>being pro palestinian is moralism

no you retarded fuck, its anti imperialism in a very material way. Building US military bases is not anti imperialist and therefore not communist. You cannot be pro imperialist and a communist, communism is anti capitalism, and imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism.

>You are irrelevant.

you aren't even getting Xi bucks you do it for free, that is the saddest part, bernie got cucked, corbyn got cucked, so now Xi is your great hope.

>You can only magnify one tiny instance in China's foreign policy

its chinas entire forien policy, in all of the above mention places, all of which have been taking an active roll in the slaughter of communists.

>I have never seen any proof of monopoly capitalists actually having power over the CPC

if communists had the power they wouldn't slaughter communists.

>>394264

lmao

> Tupac Shakur revoltuionary movement are the actual leftists.

you better not be the same retard saying SP had no support LOL

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>>394252

He's referenced over 50 times in the General Political Line of the Communist party of Peru, with such lines as

>"We base ourselves on Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, Gonzalo Thought, principally Gonzalo Thought, on the ideology of the proletariat, which is the highest expression of humanity, the only true, scientific and invincible ideology."

<"It is a Party of the new type which generated the Great Leader of the Peruvian revolution, Chairman Gonzalo, the greatest living Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, who leads the Party. He is the guarantee of the triumph of the revolution who will carry us to Communism."

>"In our case, the Peruvian revolution has generated Gonzalo Thought because Chairman Gonzalo is the highest expression of the fusion of the universal ideology with the concrete practice of the Peruvian revolution."

<"The Great Leadership of Chairman Gonzalo who handles revolutionary theory and has a knowledge of history and a profound understanding of the practical movement; who through hard two-line struggle has defeated revisionism, the right and left liquidationism, the right opportunist line and rightism. He has reconstituted the Party, leads it in the People’s War and has become the greatest living Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, a great political and military strategist, a philosopher, a teacher of Communists, and the center of Party unity."

>"Our Party has defined that leadership is key and it is the duty of all militants to constantly work to defend and preserve the leadership of the Party and very especially the leadership of Chairman Gonzalo, our Great Leadership, against any attack inside or outside the Party and to subject ourselves to his personal leadership and command by raising the slogans of “Learn From Chairman Gonzalo” and “Embody Gonzalo Thought.”

<"We maintain the principle that the leadership never dies. We who follow Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, Gonzalo Though, subject ourselves to Chairman Gonzalo and embody Gonzalo Thought."

https://gplpcp.wordpress.com/line-of-construction-of-the-three-instruments-of-the-revolution/

He's referenced over 50 times in the General Political Line of the Communist party of Peru, with such lines as

>"We base ourselves on Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, Gonzalo Thought, principally Gonzalo Thought, on the ideology of the proletariat, which is the highest expression of humanity, the only true, scientific and invincible ideology."

<"It is a Party of the new type which generated the Great Leader of the Peruvian revolution, Chairman Gonzalo, the greatest living Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, who leads the Party. He is the guarantee of the triumph of the revolution who will carry us to Communism."

>"In our case, the Peruvian revolution has generated Gonzalo Thought because Chairman Gonzalo is the highest expression of the fusion of the universal ideology with the concrete practice of the Peruvian revolution."

<"The Great Leadership of Chairman Gonzalo who handles revolutionary theory and has a knowledge of history and a profound understanding of the practical movement; who through hard two-line struggle has defeated revisionism, the right and left liquidationism, the right opportunist line and rightism. He has reconstituted the Party, leads it in the People’s War and has become the greatest living Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, a great political and military strategist, a philosopher, a teacher of Communists, and the center of Party unity."

>"Our Party has defined that leadership is key and it is the duty of all militants to constantly work to defend and preserve the leadership of the Party and very especially the leadership of Chairman Gonzalo, our Great Leadership, against any attack inside or outside the Party and to subject ourselves to his personal leadership and command by raising the slogans of “Learn From Chairman Gonzalo” and “Embody Gonzalo Thought.”

<"We maintain the principle that the leadership never dies. We who follow Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, Gonzalo Though, subject ourselves to Chairman Gonzalo and embody Gonzalo Thought."

https://gplpcp.wordpress.com/line-of-construction-of-the-three-instruments-of-the-revolution/

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>>394259

>No one outside of leftist circles or Peru knows what a Gonzalo is

wrong rxtxrd https://youtu.be/PClxCk6yMJE

>he also called it off when captured and got captured a la Scooby Doo detective work in an upper middle class neighborhood

There is no evidence he called for capitulation, those are lies spread by the reactionary Old State. Also he wasn't in an upper middle class neighborhood when he got captured wtf are you talking about. He would have had a better quality of life if he had just stayed a professor but he gave it all up for the masses

>>"If a state doesn't do X policy then they are not true socialism"

>Cannot into dialectics, a robot with script

If a state's policy consists of restoring capitalism it isn't socialist (USSR, modern China. Cuba never got rid of capitalism in the first place)

>Being public nuisances, babbling about niche failed movements and beating up socdems (or alternatively, getting beat up by the cops) doesn't make you revolutionary, it makes you a LARPer lmfao

Ok so you're going to ignore all the organizing they actually have done

>some schizos sloganeering means they were just as powerful as the Peruvian state, which had more guns, more soldiers, more of the population on its side/boundaries during the entire conflict, etc.

People, not weapons, are decisive. Mao knew this. The PCP had the peasants on its side and you are completely uninformed if you don't understand this. The Old State led campaigns of annihilation and genocide because they couldn't tell who was a guerrilla and who was an ordinary peasant. Millions in Peru thought they would seize power. People called before congress and RAND corporation lizards in the US thought it was plausible. They controlled half the country.

><Philippines has been at it since 1969

><Naxalites since 1967

The Philippines and India have multiple times more people in them than Peru does, ofc it'd take longer. Also the PPW in India has not always been united and there is revisionism in the leadership of both of those you listed.

><Shining Path crumbled in the late 90s and was dead by 2000

The People's War in Peru is still going on, they literally sign international statements https://tribuneofthepeoplenews.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/translation_-conversations-w-c.-laura.pdf http://www.redsun.org/mpp.htm

>No one outside of leftist circles or Peru knows what a Gonzalo is

wrong rxtxrd https://youtu.be/PClxCk6yMJE

>he also called it off when captured and got captured a la Scooby Doo detective work in an upper middle class neighborhood

There is no evidence he called for capitulation, those are lies spread by the reactionary Old State. Also he wasn't in an upper middle class neighborhood when he got captured wtf are you talking about. He would have had a better quality of life if he had just stayed a professor but he gave it all up for the masses

>>"If a state doesn't do X policy then they are not true socialism"

>Cannot into dialectics, a robot with script

If a state's policy consists of restoring capitalism it isn't socialist (USSR, modern China. Cuba never got rid of capitalism in the first place)

>Being public nuisances, babbling about niche failed movements and beating up socdems (or alternatively, getting beat up by the cops) doesn't make you revolutionary, it makes you a LARPer lmfao

Ok so you're going to ignore all the organizing they actually have done

>some schizos sloganeering means they were just as powerful as the Peruvian state, which had more guns, more soldiers, more of the population on its side/boundaries during the entire conflict, etc.

People, not weapons, are decisive. Mao knew this. The PCP had the peasants on its side and you are completely uninformed if you don't understand this. The Old State led campaigns of annihilation and genocide because they couldn't tell who was a guerrilla and who was an ordinary peasant. Millions in Peru thought they would seize power. People called before congress and RAND corporation lizards in the US thought it was plausible. They controlled half the country.

><Philippines has been at it since 1969

><Naxalites since 1967

The Philippines and India have multiple times more people in them than Peru does, ofc it'd take longer. Also the PPW in India has not always been united and there is revisionism in the leadership of both of those you listed.

><Shining Path crumbled in the late 90s and was dead by 2000

The People's War in Peru is still going on, they literally sign international statements https://tribuneofthepeoplenews.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/translation_-conversations-w-c.-laura.pdf http://www.redsun.org/mpp.htm

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>>394290

>"OUTSIDE OF LEFTST CIRCLES"

<links the closest thing we've got to a Maoist 4th International Propaganda video

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

>"Never surrendered"

You literally know nothing, embed related, Surquillo was a middle class neighborhood in the 1990s, the place was a ballet/modern dance school, he's buddies with Montesinos in prison, who runs a mafia, he lives fine

>restoring capitalism

URSS did not do this, China is not capitalist, delusional about Cuba

>ignore all the organizing

What organizing, Kmart parking lot LARPing means nothing, they're going to get shot by the surrounding people, not even the cops, if they try anything in any rural state, which is the only plausible place they could start unless you want to get destroyed immediately by the FBI as opposed to basically immediately

>peasants on its side

You mean the demographic that had 1/3rd of itself urbanized over the course of 2 decades (and was only about 35% to begin with), controlling jungles and mountains means nothing, they never really controlled cities

<excessive coping about 50 long year insurgencies

Both of those countries had smaller populations than China did when the "PPW" started, all successful revolutions were over either within a couple of years to 25-30 years, and they were making constant large gains in China all the time, as opposed to these movements, which kill a couple of cops monthly at best

>"OUTSIDE OF LEFTST CIRCLES"

<links the closest thing we've got to a Maoist 4th International Propaganda video

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

>"Never surrendered"

You literally know nothing, embed related, Surquillo was a middle class neighborhood in the 1990s, the place was a ballet/modern dance school, he's buddies with Montesinos in prison, who runs a mafia, he lives fine

>restoring capitalism

URSS did not do this, China is not capitalist, delusional about Cuba

>ignore all the organizing

What organizing, Kmart parking lot LARPing means nothing, they're going to get shot by the surrounding people, not even the cops, if they try anything in any rural state, which is the only plausible place they could start unless you want to get destroyed immediately by the FBI as opposed to basically immediately

>peasants on its side

You mean the demographic that had 1/3rd of itself urbanized over the course of 2 decades (and was only about 35% to begin with), controlling jungles and mountains means nothing, they never really controlled cities

<excessive coping about 50 long year insurgencies

Both of those countries had smaller populations than China did when the "PPW" started, all successful revolutions were over either within a couple of years to 25-30 years, and they were making constant large gains in China all the time, as opposed to these movements, which kill a couple of cops monthly at best

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>>394374

>Class war is always happening you dumb faggot,

oh, so not all wars have a concrete beginning and end then? I see. No problem then. We agree.

>not responding

I'm responding to everything lmao. Accusing the left of being narcotraffickers is a classic CIA tactic, when its them doing the trafficking. Plus, FARC did it, because they needed to. Whats the problem? I suppose you have some half baked columbian succdem you prefer to Farc don't you

>Class war is always happening you dumb faggot,

oh, so not all wars have a concrete beginning and end then? I see. No problem then. We agree.

>not responding

I'm responding to everything lmao. Accusing the left of being narcotraffickers is a classic CIA tactic, when its them doing the trafficking. Plus, FARC did it, because they needed to. Whats the problem? I suppose you have some half baked columbian succdem you prefer to Farc don't you

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>>394374

>that doesn't mean we're actively in war times right now globally

kek, anti maoists think we aren't at war. this is the cutest part. Just because hes not pointing a gun at you directly, doesn't mean porky is not carrying out his war. See this is the thing, dengoids are simply deeply naive

>that doesn't mean we're actively in war times right now globally

kek, anti maoists think we aren't at war. this is the cutest part. Just because hes not pointing a gun at you directly, doesn't mean porky is not carrying out his war. See this is the thing, dengoids are simply deeply naive

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>>394356

https://nacla.org/article/peruvian-cocaine-and-boomerang-history#:~:text=By%20the%20mid%2D1980s%2C%20with,its%20once%2Dmodest%20legal%20industry.

"By the mid-1980s, with more than 120,000 hectares in the Huallaga alone, Peru prevailed in the growing end of the global coca-cocaine industry, which reached an overall illicit capacity of around 1,000 tons, almost 100 times the peak of its once-modest legal industry."

map is https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Map-outlining-each-of-the-known-South-American-coca-growing-regions-investigated_fig1_299369374

https://nacla.org/article/peruvian-cocaine-and-boomerang-history#:~:text=By%20the%20mid%2D1980s%2C%20with,its%20once%2Dmodest%20legal%20industry.

"By the mid-1980s, with more than 120,000 hectares in the Huallaga alone, Peru prevailed in the growing end of the global coca-cocaine industry, which reached an overall illicit capacity of around 1,000 tons, almost 100 times the peak of its once-modest legal industry."

map is https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Map-outlining-each-of-the-known-South-American-coca-growing-regions-investigated_fig1_299369374

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>>394381

That's great and all, but what do you think is the primary focus at this point that they've more or less died off and only have a couple of hundred members, operate exclusively within a coca growing zone, and have 0 support elsewhere? Does this help the struggle at all? Are they growing in numbers? Are they gaining more territory? Or are they just largely a cartel painted red that is probably tolerated by the state because the drug trade pays?

That's great and all, but what do you think is the primary focus at this point that they've more or less died off and only have a couple of hundred members, operate exclusively within a coca growing zone, and have 0 support elsewhere? Does this help the struggle at all? Are they growing in numbers? Are they gaining more territory? Or are they just largely a cartel painted red that is probably tolerated by the state because the drug trade pays?

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>>394388

>At the same time in Peru, the authoritarian regime of Alberto Fujimori finally cracked down on the Huallaga—less out of displeasure with drugs per se, than as part of a campaign to crush the Sendero Luminoso guerrillas thriving in the lawless zone. This repression included a risky U.S.-assisted “shoot-down” policy against trafficker bridge flights to Colombia.

yes, you are on the side of the US backed fujimori so?

>At the same time in Peru, the authoritarian regime of Alberto Fujimori finally cracked down on the Huallaga—less out of displeasure with drugs per se, than as part of a campaign to crush the Sendero Luminoso guerrillas thriving in the lawless zone. This repression included a risky U.S.-assisted “shoot-down” policy against trafficker bridge flights to Colombia.

yes, you are on the side of the US backed fujimori so?

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>>394381

Kicked off when class society began, but that's not war in the colloquial sense nor "A war" barring socialist revolutions

>>394386

Touch grass, you're not some clandestine operative, you just wish to feel like you're more important and doing more than you actually are to cope with your lack of influence in the real world due to being a gringoid

Kicked off when class society began, but that's not war in the colloquial sense nor "A war" barring socialist revolutions

>>394386

Touch grass, you're not some clandestine operative, you just wish to feel like you're more important and doing more than you actually are to cope with your lack of influence in the real world due to being a gringoid

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>>394407

Yes, porky is at war with you.

>y..you’re not influential

So fucking what did I ever claim to be? Doesn’t change the material fact that porky is at war with you, maybe we’d be at war back but instead trot faggots like you just endlessly complain online, always in favour of the fucking CIA, literally every time.

Yes, porky is at war with you.

>y..you’re not influential

So fucking what did I ever claim to be? Doesn’t change the material fact that porky is at war with you, maybe we’d be at war back but instead trot faggots like you just endlessly complain online, always in favour of the fucking CIA, literally every time.

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>>394409

>Gonzalo Surrender https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQkCBvSQVo

>Feliciano Surrender https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUM9HWik3qk

"The people of our country, I, like many other people, made the decision to change that state of affairs to make a new country to make Peru a better one, but it happens that we assume a wrong ideology, the nefarious Gonzalo thought that led us to commit Many mistakes and in the end led us to a dead end. Many lessons have to be learned from these two decades, one of them in my view is that war is better avoided as a philosopher said, war is a monster of killing among men, that many times from being a means becomes an end, and if you can sometimes express heroic acts, the most extreme passions of human beings will also be expressed and war ends up dehumanizing us, it is For all that, what when a chain of hate and revenge is established, because hate generates more hate, revenge more revenge, and in the war that dynamics is produced, the war itself drives that, and when such a chain occurs, after It is difficult to break, I think that is why it is better to avoid wars, I would also like to talk to you about democracy, after many reflections I have also come to the conclusion that democracy, despite all its problems and limitations, is the best system Coexistence between human beings is better than any totalitarianism, because totalitarianism only brings intolerance and restricts the freedom of human beings, we have had in the 20th century, great lessons from totalitarian systems that led to negative situations for humanity, I think That this experience will have to bring out the positive that serves for the future, but in my opinion, democracy is always better than any totalitarian dictatorship, I want to take the occasion to invoke the state and society and all of you to have consideration and understanding with all the political prisoners. A democratic society must express its moral and judicial political superiority by giving the opportunity to rehabilitate and rejoin political prisoners and prisoners in general in society, but what is happening, life imprisonment or the sentences that have been given and what They are going to be given from 30 to 35 years. It is practically a death to all political prisoners, and that cannot be, that is to continue that chain of revenge and hatred that we must banish from our society. I also want to invoke the comrades who are still up in arms, so that they seek to establish a dialogue with the government in order to reach an understanding. I extend the invocation to the state, to the Peruvian government, to facilitate this dialogue in such a way that a solution can be found to that problem that still afflicts our country. Those people who are still there, are Peruvians like us, who also have a cause, and most of the remaining ones are peasants, therefore for the sake of national reconciliation, it should be seen to solve this problem in a way that is not military, finally , to reiterate once again, my deepest condolences to all the people who were affected by the internal war, and especially to those who had lost beings who were left, I finally thank the commission of truth and reconciliation for this opportunity for allowing me to reach all of you, thank you very much."

>Artemio saying he wants to surrender https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/08/artemio-peru-shining-path-commander

<tfw 3 consecutive leaders all turncoat

>Gonzalo Surrender https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQkCBvSQVo

>Feliciano Surrender https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUM9HWik3qk

"The people of our country, I, like many other people, made the decision to change that state of affairs to make a new country to make Peru a better one, but it happens that we assume a wrong ideology, the nefarious Gonzalo thought that led us to commit Many mistakes and in the end led us to a dead end. Many lessons have to be learned from these two decades, one of them in my view is that war is better avoided as a philosopher said, war is a monster of killing among men, that many times from being a means becomes an end, and if you can sometimes express heroic acts, the most extreme passions of human beings will also be expressed and war ends up dehumanizing us, it is For all that, what when a chain of hate and revenge is established, because hate generates more hate, revenge more revenge, and in the war that dynamics is produced, the war itself drives that, and when such a chain occurs, after It is difficult to break, I think that is why it is better to avoid wars, I would also like to talk to you about democracy, after many reflections I have also come to the conclusion that democracy, despite all its problems and limitations, is the best system Coexistence between human beings is better than any totalitarianism, because totalitarianism only brings intolerance and restricts the freedom of human beings, we have had in the 20th century, great lessons from totalitarian systems that led to negative situations for humanity, I think That this experience will have to bring out the positive that serves for the future, but in my opinion, democracy is always better than any totalitarian dictatorship, I want to take the occasion to invoke the state and society and all of you to have consideration and understanding with all the political prisoners. A democratic society must express its moral and judicial political superiority by giving the opportunity to rehabilitate and rejoin political prisoners and prisoners in general in society, but what is happening, life imprisonment or the sentences that have been given and what They are going to be given from 30 to 35 years. It is practically a death to all political prisoners, and that cannot be, that is to continue that chain of revenge and hatred that we must banish from our society. I also want to invoke the comrades who are still up in arms, so that they seek to establish a dialogue with the government in order to reach an understanding. I extend the invocation to the state, to the Peruvian government, to facilitate this dialogue in such a way that a solution can be found to that problem that still afflicts our country. Those people who are still there, are Peruvians like us, who also have a cause, and most of the remaining ones are peasants, therefore for the sake of national reconciliation, it should be seen to solve this problem in a way that is not military, finally , to reiterate once again, my deepest condolences to all the people who were affected by the internal war, and especially to those who had lost beings who were left, I finally thank the commission of truth and reconciliation for this opportunity for allowing me to reach all of you, thank you very much."

>Artemio saying he wants to surrender https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/08/artemio-peru-shining-path-commander

<tfw 3 consecutive leaders all turncoat

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>>394420

Imagine shifting the goal posts this hard lmao

>war has concrete start don’t you know

It doesn’t

>well, uh yes, but it isn’t happening just now

It is

>well uh, didn’t you know this guy surrendered after being captured

So what uygha lmao doesn’t change shit, why the copium posters always coping the hardest? The projection is real smh

Imagine shifting the goal posts this hard lmao

>war has concrete start don’t you know

It doesn’t

>well, uh yes, but it isn’t happening just now

It is

>well uh, didn’t you know this guy surrendered after being captured

So what uygha lmao doesn’t change shit, why the copium posters always coping the hardest? The projection is real smh

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>>394422

It’s not a straw man.

The poster said that because SP are in a coca region they are simply a cartel.

I am saying because MAS literally started by a coca farmer and operate largely in coca regions, they are also simply a cartel

If you don’t like your own fucking logic, you should change it you dumb shit motherfucker

Every dengist should fucking kill themselves. They can do it by joining a communist movement and then Xi will do it for them along with the CIA. Scum.

It’s not a straw man.

The poster said that because SP are in a coca region they are simply a cartel.

I am saying because MAS literally started by a coca farmer and operate largely in coca regions, they are also simply a cartel

If you don’t like your own fucking logic, you should change it you dumb shit motherfucker

Every dengist should fucking kill themselves. They can do it by joining a communist movement and then Xi will do it for them along with the CIA. Scum.

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>>394426

So fucking what. Explain yourself you little worm, you accuse me of not answering stuff and coping all you do is change the goal posts and deflect and repeat literal CIA Lib talking points. You’re a fucking joke of an individual. Stop watching Caleb Maupin and read a fucking book. I doubt btw, Caleb would ever deny that anti colonial struggles took 100s of years as you seem to be trying to do.

You’re a dumbass youtube Lord. Accept it and fuck off back to your Reddit posts

So fucking what. Explain yourself you little worm, you accuse me of not answering stuff and coping all you do is change the goal posts and deflect and repeat literal CIA Lib talking points. You’re a fucking joke of an individual. Stop watching Caleb Maupin and read a fucking book. I doubt btw, Caleb would ever deny that anti colonial struggles took 100s of years as you seem to be trying to do.

You’re a dumbass youtube Lord. Accept it and fuck off back to your Reddit posts

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>>394429

>MAS rejects electoralism

>MAS gets its funding exclusively from the drug trade

>MAS is a militarized party

>MAS is a revolutionary communist party

>MAS is 350-1000 guys in the jungle drug smuggling

>>394432

>"you accuse me of not answering stuff and coping"

It's really all you've done, you have made no points this entire time

>MAS rejects electoralism

>MAS gets its funding exclusively from the drug trade

>MAS is a militarized party

>MAS is a revolutionary communist party

>MAS is 350-1000 guys in the jungle drug smuggling

>>394432

>"you accuse me of not answering stuff and coping"

It's really all you've done, you have made no points this entire time

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>>394445

You haven't hurt most peoples feelings because you've made a really poor performance in this thread. So far MLMs are kicking the right-wing opportunists ass and all you have left is your unfounded smugness that you are leaning very heavily on right now.

You haven't hurt most peoples feelings because you've made a really poor performance in this thread. So far MLMs are kicking the right-wing opportunists ass and all you have left is your unfounded smugness that you are leaning very heavily on right now.

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>>394457

<unsuccessful 50 year long armed revolutions and 1st world LARP

>"kicking the right-wing opportunists ass"

You sink into further obscurity and irrelevance with each passing day, at least in the 70s and 80s there was a bit of novelty, but in 10 years all of the marginal and irrelevant groups you support (which is irrelevant, your willpower will change nothing and no revolution will occur in the local Kmart parking lot in Ohio) will be 60 years old instead of 50, and they'll be in the same position or worse off than they currently are, and it will happen again in 20 years, and again in 30 years. It is already an enormous cope that they've been at it for this long and are still the size they are and their actions amount to killing some cops every so often, they haven't even displaced large amounts of the population and caused constant blackouts in the capital like the Shining Path did, they're that much of a non-threat

Face it, the only thing that will grow is how much you cope daily believing that any day now the Naxalites or Filipinos will win, just like other retards have been doing for the past century LMFAO

<unsuccessful 50 year long armed revolutions and 1st world LARP

>"kicking the right-wing opportunists ass"

You sink into further obscurity and irrelevance with each passing day, at least in the 70s and 80s there was a bit of novelty, but in 10 years all of the marginal and irrelevant groups you support (which is irrelevant, your willpower will change nothing and no revolution will occur in the local Kmart parking lot in Ohio) will be 60 years old instead of 50, and they'll be in the same position or worse off than they currently are, and it will happen again in 20 years, and again in 30 years. It is already an enormous cope that they've been at it for this long and are still the size they are and their actions amount to killing some cops every so often, they haven't even displaced large amounts of the population and caused constant blackouts in the capital like the Shining Path did, they're that much of a non-threat

Face it, the only thing that will grow is how much you cope daily believing that any day now the Naxalites or Filipinos will win, just like other retards have been doing for the past century LMFAO

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>>394469

Never said I didn't support them despite all of my criticisms, but they just serve as a good boogeyman to rally support for Duterte and little else, do you think that it's cool to fetishize unsuccessful movements and copepost trying to excuse abject failure? "Existing" for this long is a bare minimum that even groups like the Taliban can manage, and even then, the Taliban have actually had more success militarily, so what are the communist's excuses?

Never said I didn't support them despite all of my criticisms, but they just serve as a good boogeyman to rally support for Duterte and little else, do you think that it's cool to fetishize unsuccessful movements and copepost trying to excuse abject failure? "Existing" for this long is a bare minimum that even groups like the Taliban can manage, and even then, the Taliban have actually had more success militarily, so what are the communist's excuses?

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>>394480

Exactamente, la coca se puede masticar y usar para hacer mate de coca, pero es obvio que un grupo que necesita acumular fondos para mantenerse vivos no van a ser comerciantes o vendedores ambulantes de coca, la plata esta en el narco-trafico, todos los grupos, sean del gobierno, paramilitares, guerrillero, o terrorista se involucran porque seria estupido no hacer lo, sino el otro partido tomara tu parte. Y de los seguidores de abimael estas totalmente correcto, Maocos Magos del internet

Exactamente, la coca se puede masticar y usar para hacer mate de coca, pero es obvio que un grupo que necesita acumular fondos para mantenerse vivos no van a ser comerciantes o vendedores ambulantes de coca, la plata esta en el narco-trafico, todos los grupos, sean del gobierno, paramilitares, guerrillero, o terrorista se involucran porque seria estupido no hacer lo, sino el otro partido tomara tu parte. Y de los seguidores de abimael estas totalmente correcto, Maocos Magos del internet

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>>394503

Kek you are the anarchists

>oooh noooo how can you kill the innocent right wing militia members oooh sooo authoritarian you have ruined the reputation of socialism normies don’t like it

>communism has failed

>why couldn’t you just have voooted the genocidal fujimori cos regime out of power

Kek you are the anarchists

>oooh noooo how can you kill the innocent right wing militia members oooh sooo authoritarian you have ruined the reputation of socialism normies don’t like it

>communism has failed

>why couldn’t you just have voooted the genocidal fujimori cos regime out of power

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>>396183

>normies don't like it

uyghur a socdem barely won 30 years after neoliberalism took power and the media was able to successfully spook a good chunk of the population into thinking that Evo-Lite was some sort of radical, you're delusional if you think that the Shining Path's retardation didn't lead to massive pushback and you evidently haven't talked to any Peruvians if you think that they're popular over there

>normies don't like it

uyghur a socdem barely won 30 years after neoliberalism took power and the media was able to successfully spook a good chunk of the population into thinking that Evo-Lite was some sort of radical, you're delusional if you think that the Shining Path's retardation didn't lead to massive pushback and you evidently haven't talked to any Peruvians if you think that they're popular over there

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>>396951

Because the UK is exploiting its resources for the material benefit of its empire. Are you dense? Are you one of the paid shills for that geriatric old hag?

Because the UK is exploiting its resources for the material benefit of its empire. Are you dense? Are you one of the paid shills for that geriatric old hag?

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>>397005

Anarchist doing damage control for imperialism. Not a new sight these last couple of years. Oh how your movement have fallen.

>with some sheep

A million of them, to be exact.

>just [agriculture]

In reality it is only the second largest industry for the Royal Family and her transnational finance capitalist Tories. The main is fisheries, which spans an area of 2.7 million square km. Every single British Overseas Territory is to be liberated as well.

Also, I'm not even a Maoist, I'm an ML. Just pushing back on glowies / tools and it just so happens to be in this thread now apparently.

Anarchist doing damage control for imperialism. Not a new sight these last couple of years. Oh how your movement have fallen.

>with some sheep

A million of them, to be exact.

>just [agriculture]

In reality it is only the second largest industry for the Royal Family and her transnational finance capitalist Tories. The main is fisheries, which spans an area of 2.7 million square km. Every single British Overseas Territory is to be liberated as well.

Also, I'm not even a Maoist, I'm an ML. Just pushing back on glowies / tools and it just so happens to be in this thread now apparently.

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>>396878

>it didn't historically belong to argentina

That's pretty debatable. Argentinians consider it an illegitimate occupation because british ships landed there in 1833 unprovokedly and overthrew the local argentine government, and by that time Britain had long recognized argentinian independence and had signed a commerce treaty with her, so they consider it a case of Anglo perfidy.

>it didn't historically belong to argentina

That's pretty debatable. Argentinians consider it an illegitimate occupation because british ships landed there in 1833 unprovokedly and overthrew the local argentine government, and by that time Britain had long recognized argentinian independence and had signed a commerce treaty with her, so they consider it a case of Anglo perfidy.

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So we hate Maoist or Anti-Maoists?

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>>398056

Rent free.

Rent free.

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>>398090

>he says

>as he makes anti Maoist thread no.34576980

Nothing to say about that glowie comment though do you

>laughs in contra

>laughs in IDF

>laughs in UNITA

>laughs in Mujihadeen

>laughs in duterte

>laughs in Mohammed bin Salmen

>laughs covered in houthi blood

>laughs in disarming North Korea

Lmaoooo dengists - CIA pipeline, it’s less than an inch long

>he says

>as he makes anti Maoist thread no.34576980

Nothing to say about that glowie comment though do you

>laughs in contra

>laughs in IDF

>laughs in UNITA

>laughs in Mujihadeen

>laughs in duterte

>laughs in Mohammed bin Salmen

>laughs covered in houthi blood

>laughs in disarming North Korea

Lmaoooo dengists - CIA pipeline, it’s less than an inch long

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>>398108

All of those are instances where objectively, factually, dengoid china has allied directly with CIA anti communist forces.

The USA used realpolitik to justify its actions too. Doesn’t make it good.

Cope harder. Explain how selling arms to the contras was part of anti soviet real poltik, the Sandinistas were famously not supported by the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union doesn’t exist today and China continues to build up Israel today. For the 90s and 2000s when china was arming anti communists in the phillipines, the Soviet Union also didn’t exist.

>dengists refusing to answer to history

Can’t decide which is better when they straight don’t know or do this denial deflect and cope thing

All of those are instances where objectively, factually, dengoid china has allied directly with CIA anti communist forces.

The USA used realpolitik to justify its actions too. Doesn’t make it good.

Cope harder. Explain how selling arms to the contras was part of anti soviet real poltik, the Sandinistas were famously not supported by the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union doesn’t exist today and China continues to build up Israel today. For the 90s and 2000s when china was arming anti communists in the phillipines, the Soviet Union also didn’t exist.

>dengists refusing to answer to history

Can’t decide which is better when they straight don’t know or do this denial deflect and cope thing

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>>398170

>several proven instances of dengoids taking active roll in the slaughter of communists engaged in anti imperial struggle in key geopolitical situations

Vs

>but muh muh muh literal hunch with no sources or proof that one tiny nothing burger group calling themselves Maoist were CIA

Epic cope dengoids literally btfo themselves all thread lmao

>several proven instances of dengoids taking active roll in the slaughter of communists engaged in anti imperial struggle in key geopolitical situations

Vs

>but muh muh muh literal hunch with no sources or proof that one tiny nothing burger group calling themselves Maoist were CIA

Epic cope dengoids literally btfo themselves all thread lmao

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>>398196

no uighur, i'm asking because people keep making the accusation without backing it up. that would be called fedjacketing, and it is also a cointelpro tactic by coincidence. i asked for the source because i'm giving you benefit of the doubt, maybe this is not fedjacketiing but sincere.

no uighur, i'm asking because people keep making the accusation without backing it up. that would be called fedjacketing, and it is also a cointelpro tactic by coincidence. i asked for the source because i'm giving you benefit of the doubt, maybe this is not fedjacketiing but sincere.

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>>398182

>Stalin also killed communists

Did he do this shoulder to shoulder with the CIA?

Did he do this in direct conflict with the Soviet Union?

Did he do this directly alongside international capital in order to suppress socialism? Or did he do this because they were revisionists conspiring to destroy socialism?

When did he do this? In what historical context

Dengoids are honestly complete and total retards. Far and away the least informed, least read, redditoid retards

>Stalin also killed communists

Did he do this shoulder to shoulder with the CIA?

Did he do this in direct conflict with the Soviet Union?

Did he do this directly alongside international capital in order to suppress socialism? Or did he do this because they were revisionists conspiring to destroy socialism?

When did he do this? In what historical context

Dengoids are honestly complete and total retards. Far and away the least informed, least read, redditoid retards

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>>398196

Yes if you are going to accuse someone of being a fed you need a source lol

It’s just hilarious the way the dengoid mind works

>here is like 40 years of concrete history showing many times denist China actively allied with the CIA

And your answer is literally “well I think red guards are feds” and you honestly are trying to compare these two situations.

How many people have red guards killed for the CIA then?

A big fat fucking zero.

Do you have any idea the kind of shit the contras by themselves, not including any of the other examples, even did? To people, just because they were leftist or leftist affiliated? Mass rape, torture, the dissembowling of babies and children, rape of underage girls.

Just fucking stop. Accept you don’t know what you are talking about.

Yes if you are going to accuse someone of being a fed you need a source lol

It’s just hilarious the way the dengoid mind works

>here is like 40 years of concrete history showing many times denist China actively allied with the CIA

And your answer is literally “well I think red guards are feds” and you honestly are trying to compare these two situations.

How many people have red guards killed for the CIA then?

A big fat fucking zero.

Do you have any idea the kind of shit the contras by themselves, not including any of the other examples, even did? To people, just because they were leftist or leftist affiliated? Mass rape, torture, the dissembowling of babies and children, rape of underage girls.

Just fucking stop. Accept you don’t know what you are talking about.

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>>394276

MLM is a perma loser ideology just like Trotskyism

MLM is a perma loser ideology just like Trotskyism

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>>392839

>Thus the very premise of petty-bourgeois radicalism is that it is impossible to win the working class in the struggle against capitalism. From this it follows that mass concepts of struggle are not possible, necessary or realistic. This leads to actions based on small elite groups––or to individual action.

>Because this concept is not concerned with winning over masses, it promotes and condones actions that alienate masses. There is an inner logic to this path. Specific actions are taken because there is a lack of confidence in mass–in class–actions. These ill-considered actions result in widening the gap between the petty-bourgeois radical movements and the masses.

>This widening gap then becomes “proof” that you cannot win masses and therefore the line of conduct of these movements is justified. Each step leads to a further isolation. This is the inner logic of petty-bourgeois radicalism.

Good fucking Lord.

HOW COULD ONE MAN BE SO UNGODLY BASED?

FUCK RADLIBS, FUCK THIRD WORLDISTS, FUCK WESTERN MAOISTS! UPHOLD GUS HALL THOUGHT!!!

>Thus the very premise of petty-bourgeois radicalism is that it is impossible to win the working class in the struggle against capitalism. From this it follows that mass concepts of struggle are not possible, necessary or realistic. This leads to actions based on small elite groups––or to individual action.

>Because this concept is not concerned with winning over masses, it promotes and condones actions that alienate masses. There is an inner logic to this path. Specific actions are taken because there is a lack of confidence in mass–in class–actions. These ill-considered actions result in widening the gap between the petty-bourgeois radical movements and the masses.

>This widening gap then becomes “proof” that you cannot win masses and therefore the line of conduct of these movements is justified. Each step leads to a further isolation. This is the inner logic of petty-bourgeois radicalism.

Good fucking Lord.

HOW COULD ONE MAN BE SO UNGODLY BASED?

FUCK RADLIBS, FUCK THIRD WORLDISTS, FUCK WESTERN MAOISTS! UPHOLD GUS HALL THOUGHT!!!

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>>401016

Are these Dengists in the room with you?

Even if they are, why are you tagging me, a Maoist, for Dengist answers that are pretty fucking obvious, China has a bad foreign policy, it's their weak spot and it dates back to Mao

Get back to moral fagging you pussy bitch, you got your (You) and an answer, now piss off

Are these Dengists in the room with you?

Even if they are, why are you tagging me, a Maoist, for Dengist answers that are pretty fucking obvious, China has a bad foreign policy, it's their weak spot and it dates back to Mao

Get back to moral fagging you pussy bitch, you got your (You) and an answer, now piss off

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>>401267

His only way to cope is to acusse every other anon in the thread of dengism.

While at the same time, sucking Mao's Kissingerian dick.

Frankly, who cares.

His only way to cope is to acusse every other anon in the thread of dengism.

While at the same time, sucking Mao's Kissingerian dick.

Frankly, who cares.

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>>402092

>Stop bothering other people on a fucking image board, of all things, about a common question that's been answered multiple times before

>Go outside and talk to other retards like yourself so that we won't have to

>No one gives a flying fuck about your petty squabbling over China, or obscure guerilla groups in 3rd world countries

Somehow all of this is idealism

>Stop bothering other people on a fucking image board, of all things, about a common question that's been answered multiple times before

>Go outside and talk to other retards like yourself so that we won't have to

>No one gives a flying fuck about your petty squabbling over China, or obscure guerilla groups in 3rd world countries

Somehow all of this is idealism

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>>394248

the same goes for nuclear weapons

>Iraq

muh no nukes

<gets invaded

>Libya

No nukes

<Gadaffi gets sodomized

>Pakistan

Yes nukes

<no amerishart invasion

>DPRK

Yes nukes

<no south korean-amerishart invasion

Take the Nukepill, Nukes keep a country soverign

>unarmed, slaughtered

<Los Bultos cubanos

<MIR

>GAP

Allende was arming itself but the Glowies were faster than him

the same goes for nuclear weapons

>Iraq

muh no nukes

<gets invaded

>Libya

No nukes

<Gadaffi gets sodomized

>Pakistan

Yes nukes

<no amerishart invasion

>DPRK

Yes nukes

<no south korean-amerishart invasion

Take the Nukepill, Nukes keep a country soverign

>unarmed, slaughtered

<Los Bultos cubanos

<MIR

>GAP

Allende was arming itself but the Glowies were faster than him

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>>413376

The problem is the international stigma you get from having nukes.

And also, in latinomarica there is a treaty from the 60's about being a perpetual neutral ground regarding nukes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tlatelolco

https://es.wikisource.org/wiki/Tratado_para_la_Proscripci%C3%B3n_de_las_Armas_Nucleares_en_la_Am%C3%A9rica_Latina_y_el_Caribe

That is why many countries here have nuclear facilities, from Argentina to the abandoned Cuba one, but none of them have interest on making the world a posadist dream.

The problem is the international stigma you get from having nukes.

And also, in latinomarica there is a treaty from the 60's about being a perpetual neutral ground regarding nukes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tlatelolco

https://es.wikisource.org/wiki/Tratado_para_la_Proscripci%C3%B3n_de_las_Armas_Nucleares_en_la_Am%C3%A9rica_Latina_y_el_Caribe

That is why many countries here have nuclear facilities, from Argentina to the abandoned Cuba one, but none of them have interest on making the world a posadist dream.

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>>413402

>Art. 21: Measures in case of violation of the treaty

>2. In the event that, in its judgment, the breach in question constitutes a violation of this Treaty that could endanger peace and security, the General Conference itself shall simultaneously report on it to the Security Council and the General Assembly of the United Nations. United Nations, through the Secretary General of said Organization, as well as the Council of the Organization of American States. The General Conference will also inform the International Atomic Energy Agency for the purposes that are pertinent in accordance with its Statute.

>Art. 31: Validity of the treaty

<1. The present treaty is permanent and will be in force indefinitely

>Art. 21: Measures in case of violation of the treaty

>2. In the event that, in its judgment, the breach in question constitutes a violation of this Treaty that could endanger peace and security, the General Conference itself shall simultaneously report on it to the Security Council and the General Assembly of the United Nations. United Nations, through the Secretary General of said Organization, as well as the Council of the Organization of American States. The General Conference will also inform the International Atomic Energy Agency for the purposes that are pertinent in accordance with its Statute.

>Art. 31: Validity of the treaty

<1. The present treaty is permanent and will be in force indefinitely

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>>392865

>maopill me about gonzalo, why he started attacking peasants and the people he should be protecting? that only caused poor people to hate him.

fujimori started a program to give middle class and upper class peasants guns, bombs and even RPG´s to defend their lands from the party

>maopill me about gonzalo, why he started attacking peasants and the people he should be protecting? that only caused poor people to hate him.

fujimori started a program to give middle class and upper class peasants guns, bombs and even RPG´s to defend their lands from the party

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