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 No.392823[Last 50 Posts]

When will they realize being lead by petty bourgeois academes is a bad idea?
When will they realize changing culture is a poor idea?
When will they stop screaming revisionism at others and realize how revisionist they are with their dogmatism?
When will they stop splintering?
When will they focus on long-term goals instead of petty acts of violence and shock-value?
When will they stop making excuses because "What do you not get about muh PROTRACTED people's war?"
When will they win a revolution?

Never

So join in on the hate. Fuck this petty-bourgeois ideology, along with other failed movements that belong in the dustbin of history (like Trotskyism). Post your copypastas, videos, memes, articles, everything.
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 No.392837

File: 1626903820292.mp4 (1.61 MB, 640x640, 213508202_995788131229112_….mp4)

Maoism? Communism? Hoxha? I just wanna shoot down British ships in the Falklands
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 No.392840

>anti-[very specific historical conditions existing in 20th century China] thread

your mom is very proud of you, OP
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 No.392845

>>392823
Come on guys, let's stop shitting on our fellow leftists
>>389189
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 No.392847

Engels was bourgeois.
Lenin and Mao were petit-bourgeois.
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 No.392851

>>When will they win a revolution?
Nepal
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 No.392853

>>392847
but they actually had the approval of the masses.

Gonzalo sure as fuck didn't. And neither does Sison.
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 No.392855

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 No.392858

>>392851
that was an election you subhuman
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 No.392862

>>392858
and the winner was also a Brahmin kek
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 No.392864

>>392840
looks like you dropped your hotpocket on your way to make that genius comment.
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 No.392865

maopill me about gonzalo, why he started attacking peasants and the people he should be protecting? that only caused poor people to hate him.

AFAIK even Pedro Castillo (Pencilman) was a rondero, a rondero was a type of self-defense force against shining path.
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 No.392875

>>392845
>lEfTIsT uNiTY
in the fucking trash.
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 No.392877

>>392875
Okay, carry on with your infighting then. Good luck obtaining any real power.
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 No.392879

>>392877
>Take the internet seriously, guys. Infighting is an issue when we don't know anyone in real life!

but really, the infighting is pretty evident in maoist orgs, like I don't even know who splits faster, maoists or trots
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 No.392884

>>392840
To be fair these retards have very little to do with Mao
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 No.392888

>>392877
I’ll take a cohesive leftist movement over siding with Trots and anarchists any day
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 No.392889

>>392884
i know
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 No.392927

>>392840
Even for the historical conditions of China, some of Mao's ideas (particularly AFTER he was in power, his guerilla warfare theory is solid) were straight up retarded. Three worlds theory (and trying to ally with the USA against the USSR) was a particularly egregious example.
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 No.392935

That said, we only seem to have a handful of Maoists here so I'm not really sure what OP is hoping to accomplish with this thread.
Almost everyone on /leftypol/ (except for me (a Trot), a couple anarchists, like one demsucc, and again, a few Maoists) are just old school style MLs.
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 No.392940

>>392840
>>392927
Maoism was founded by Peruvians in the 80s. I'm pretty sure OP's beef is with modern day gonzaloists
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 No.392943

Mao Zedong Thought - Based
Marxism Leninism Maoism - Cringe
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 No.392946

>>392940
In that case, a solid half of them are literal glowies. Like, the Austin Red Guards were just a blatant COINTELPRO operation and I'd wager most Maoist groups (especially in the first world) are majority fed.
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 No.392948

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it's a nice thread i guess
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 No.392949

>Ce qu'il y a de certain c'est que moi, je ne suis pas Maoiste.
-Mao Tse-Tung
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 No.392956

>>392948
Fuck you revisionist MLM failed everywhere
we are MLMpM here
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 No.392975

>>392956
>we are MLMpM here
"We" really are not. If anything /leftypol/ has shown more sympathy to Sison every time the subject has been brought up. And that's because he actually builds on Marx, Lenin and Mao, instead of, like Guzman, becoming a megalomaniac, declaring himself the Mass Line and acting like a fucking narodnik.
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 No.392980

>>392975
don't bring the narodniks into this, they were cooler than you stinky, smelly maoists will ever be
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 No.392992

>>392865
Because fuck them peasants, stupid fucks, join or die, join or die
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 No.393052

File: 1626909848007.mp4 (2.48 MB, 640x532, 1626065962444.mp4)

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 No.393057

>>393052
Not now, thingnoticer.
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 No.393254

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 No.393365

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Is Maoism even have any relevance today other than pointless shit flinging in Nepal and never ending people’s war in Philippines? The Naxalites are a failure, the Sendero Luminoso is in jail.

Hell the only wave of popularity for Maoism in the west came and went in only a decade in the west. And they only got that boost due to offering something more at home with the spirit of the anti-imperialist struggle worldwide than the "old left” while staying in tune with the most militant currents which the mass movements of the 1960s especially the US civil rights and black liberations. In short, to the battered radical left post-McCarthyist red scare, it was a revolutionary alternative to the inertia of
the "old left" Browderism and union contentedness. Which immediately collapsed once Mao and his clique turned to support fucking UNITA of all people against the MPLA and trying to prevent Indochina from uniting.

Toward Maoism I always take the position of Khrushchev. It’s not that I disagree with the movements that use it but I’m largely completely oppose to the Maoist dogma that dragged those movements down. Maoism is something way more chauvinistic than even Sun Yatsen’s thoughts while dressing up in a facade of anarchistic popularism. It simply has way too much appeal to the reactionary opportunists with its concession toward the national petit bourgeoisie and backward peasantry. Instead of educating the peasantry of Marxist theory to propel their proletarianization, Maoism turned it on it’s head by reinterpreting the peasant’s need with Marxist buzzwords. That’s why the Gang of Four, black nationalists within Black Panthers and the /pol/ pot, Heng Sary clique of reactionaries was able to get into power. Hell the FBI can do it too! Just had their agents reword their own anti-communist training with buzzwords like “mass line”, “people’s struggle”,… and bam! A perfect western Maoist liberator!

The other big criticism toward Maoism I have is their tactics. It’s simply not applicable anymore even in the poor global south. Sure it was extremely effective even till the early 60s, something the DPRK should’ve done to unite their country back then instead of a pure Soviet-style military invasion strategy. However by the time the Tet offensive came around it already showed many weaknesses that the US military was able to effectively counter. The western imperialist had developed urbanize fortification to draw in the the peasantry into the cities, basically starving the Maoist militias of their support base and materials. Sure they will never be able to fully kill the insurgents, but it worked in containing and stalling for enough time for them to increase urbanization methodically. Turning a popular uprisings into banditry or remote self-efficient communes to survive, stopping them from spreading further. The Nepalese revolution only circumvented this because they followed the Cuban model of revolution by Co-opting the liberal anti-monarchists.
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 No.393518

heh stay mad virgins
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 No.393533

Boiling babies and hanging dogs by lamp posts is Socialist
t. Gonzalo Gang
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 No.393537

>>393533
The first is a lie and you know it.
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 No.393572

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 No.393578

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>>393533
Alright time to boiling some FAGGOTs
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 No.393582

>>392823
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 No.393948

>>393533
kys moralfag, cant have ur cake and eat it too.
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 No.393959

>>393582
You can’t be anti-sectarian when you defend Mautism bro.
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 No.393975

Don’t you mean, CIA I.e dengist seethe and cope thread
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 No.393977

>>393533
>>393578
>spreading libshit lies
Well I mean, I guess that is why lib shits do
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 No.394027

>>393959
>Mautism
<Gotcha denglarp burger
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 No.394036

Gonzalo was right tho
>but but muh he killed gorillions of peasants
Anti maoist propaganda
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 No.394037

>>394036
>the people's child bakeries
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 No.394039

>>394027
Gotta purge the movements that are inherently sectarian, like Trotskyism and Maofaggotry.
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 No.394045

>>394039
You'll never have revolution, retard. Useful idiots shall be purge after they done with you. You better kys before regret it later.
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 No.394105

>>394045
Yeah, I know one person can't have a revolution. Maybe you should be purged for your individualistic outlook.
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 No.394116

>>392837
LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
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 No.394120

>>392847
>engels tried to wage PPW in Germany
>Lenin and Mao didn't have massive movements in unique circumstances as opposed to trying to LARP as Mao in an urbanized country by carbombing randos during peace times (or going on for 50+ years without anything to show)
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 No.394124

>>392851
Literally cucked by another party and nothing has happened there, Chavez and Morales are unironically more radical and did more for their countries lmfao
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 No.394126

>>392823
Is this a hate thread about anti-maoists or is this a hate thread against maoists? Be moar precise next time turd
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 No.394127

>>394126
Or you could just read.
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 No.394130

>>394036
Gonzalo is in jail tho
>>393518
Maoists are terminally online twitter transhumanists, project more lmfao
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 No.394139

>>394130
>Maoists are terminally online
>he says, posting yet another Xi meme from conneticut
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 No.394140

Literally every anti Maoist is just a CIA agent
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 No.394153

>>394130
Unlike the MEGA BASED Infrachads that REJECT organization and UPHOLD petit-bourgeois E-CAREERS on YOUTUBE, TWITCH and REDDIT!
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 No.394157

>>394140
Due to the sheer existence of Austin red guards, your comment means nothing.
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 No.394160

I think maoists are ok but gonzaloids are just feds
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 No.394161

>>394036
>Gonzalo was right tho
he lost so not quite
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 No.394162

>>394160
Dogmatic tendencies are still revisionism
Trotskyism, Maoism, all in the trash.
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 No.394165

>>394162
maoism doesn't have to be dogmatic just like ml can't degenerate into dogmatism
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 No.394166

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>>394139
>>394140
>>394153
Proving the point
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 No.394171

>>394165
I mean, you have ML in China, ML in Cuba, ML in Vietnam, ML in the DPRK, ML in Laos and now ML in Peru, all doing their separate thing, guided by theory in common.

But just look at Maoism lol. You'd get shot in a fucking struggle session for suggesting the slightest difference
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 No.394175

>>394171
calling these countries ml is already a stretch but did you just imply peru is ml. is this more of the castillo simping going on?
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 No.394176

>>394175
>Not really ML
The resounding cry of the dogmatist.
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 No.394178

>>394175
Did you see the preposition 'in'? Or are you that much of an autist you think that implies a whole country is ML?
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 No.394181

>>394176
but for serious. are you saying to me, i'm dogmatist for not thinking china, cuba, etc. are ml? sure, i've been called a dogmatist for that before. but i'm asking if you actually think peru is ml
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 No.394182

>>394178
ah, indeed. but then who do you mean?
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 No.394184

>>394161
Stalin also lost
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 No.394185

>>394171
>ML in china
do you rlly believe this? also is not like ml movements in those countries haven't fucked over before because of dogmatism shit is a deviation that can not be avoided by simply stating you believe in the theory
>>394178
stop acting like a retard he mentioned those particular countries for a reason if you just want to talk about countries with some mls in it you would be talking abt the whole world
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 No.394186

>>394184
exactly the same situation no difference at all
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 No.394189

>>394171
>ML in Cuba
That would be foco theory, much closer to Maoism kek.

>ML in the DPRK

Double kek

Bruh Maoist china literally won the Korean War for the north. What in ever living fuck are you talking about

Anti Maoists literally can’t into the history of socialism at all
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 No.394191

>>394186
Same crit can obviously be fired right back at your fucking “but he lost lmao” take. The self awareness of dengists is truly fucking astounding I swear not one of them is over the age of 20
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 No.394196

>>394189
Lmao.
Just bits and pieces of history to justify your position, huh? Cherry picking is the only thing Maoists have.
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 No.394197

>>394191
how are they similar then?
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 No.394202


>>394184
Stalin died, but Marxism-Leninism is successful. Gonzalo is in jail and Maoism is not.

Essence is different from appearance.
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 No.394203

>>394165
Maoists (and other dogmatists like Hoxhaists or "anti-revisionist" MLs) unironically believe that both Stalin and Mao were stabbed in the back by the evil revisionist cliques in the parties that had been plotting to take over ever since the inception of the respective states, literal Great Man Theory and neglecting the fact that later leaders were elected just as if not more democratically by the people at large
They have the arrogance to believe that their decades-old, highly situational and circumstantial position wasn't considered in its time and not taken because of reasons they haven't researched or willfully ignore
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 No.394204

>>394196
>just bits and pieces of history
You mean actually knowing history. “The DPRK was orthodox ML” is complete retardation. Korea was almost entirely peasants, they then fought a people’s war (protracted, its still ongoing to this day) and the victory was secured by Maoist China. Key to the idea of Juche was that the anti colonial struggles had taken hundreds of years, yes, it was Marxism Leninism applied to the Korean Peninsula, just like Maoism was Marxism Leninism applied to China. So what are you arguing, that no distinction can be made? It’s all ML? Okay, then MLM in its various forms is Marxism Leninism applied to Peru, India, The Phillipines etc etc.

What then is your point?
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 No.394205

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 No.394206

>>394204
This my friends is what 0 theory does to a mf.
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 No.394207

>>394202
The USSR completely collapsed and Russia and the rest of the soviet bloc are a series of shit holes extremely anti communist. A leftist was just elected in Peru. Seems Gonzalo is doing better :)
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 No.394209

>>394205
>>394206
I don’t see any arguments here, only memes, sad.
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 No.394210

>>394209
Then come up with a better argument that doesn't deserve memery.
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 No.394211

>>394210
Hahaha
>I don’t need to make an argument
Just admit you are a retard with no response, and like every dengist, it is you who has no theory.

Please go build Zion somewhere else
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 No.394212

File: 1626974077455.gif (450.41 KB, 220x220, cope.gif)

>>394204
>Marx was a marxist
>Lenin was a leninist
>Mao was a maoist
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 No.394213

>>394212
Doesn’t say anything like that but I suppose that’s typical dengoid reading comprehension
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 No.394214

>>394212
I mean like, it literally explicitly says the exact opposite. You’re a fucking faggot
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 No.394215

>>394209
Claiming that the fucking Soviet Premier and glowzalo are even in the same ballpark is insane cope, take meds you faggot
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 No.394217

>>394213
China was never Maoist or MLM, if you want to say Maoism is ML-MZT and that it was what China was and is, you're free to do so
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 No.394218

>>394211
I mean, that's the thing about dogma and dogmatism, it's not falsifiable, so what's the fucking point?
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 No.394221

>>394215
>accuses others of great man theory
>but, le perfect Soviet Premier

What is your argument exactly except deflection, Gonzalo lost right, and Stalin lost too.. which apparently, according to the original “Gonzalo lost” poster is a legit statement to make and not retarded at all, but now you seem to think in fact it is retarded to make such statements. Curious. Very curious dengoid tell me more
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 No.394222

>>394214
Implying that Sison or Gonzaloism is the ideology Mao Era China or Mao followed is a lie, Mao was an ML
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 No.394225

>>394217
That post literally said the opposite of what you are trying to say it said, it said china was ML applied to chinese conditions, holy fucking shit talking to dengists is like talking to bots
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 No.394226

>When will they realize being lead by petty bourgeois academes is a bad idea?
Gonzalo literally visited China for a time and abandoned his career to lead a proletarian revolution and become the world's foremost political prisoner. He was utterly committed to the masses.
>When will they realize changing culture is a poor idea?
Learn basic base and superstructure brainlet. Can you name a single cultural attitude challenged during the GPCR where it was wrong to do so?
>When will they stop screaming revisionism at others and realize how revisionist they are with their dogmatism?
As if when Maoists call reformists and "AES" supporters revisionists we don't back it up with theory and reasoning
>When will they stop splintering?
I have no fucking idea what you're talking about, when have Maoists splintered from each other?
>When will they focus on long-term goals instead of petty acts of violence and shock-value?
Again this is completely uninformed. Maoists in the US (including the former Red Guards Austin and its members who are still involved in activism) do flashy shit which is absolutely based like BTFOing DSA members, scribbling graffiti and planning combative May Day marches while *also* conquering local power and gaining experience for the long-term by participating and winning leadership in labor/tenant/student struggles and deepening political education of themselves and new cadres.
>When will they stop making excuses because "What do you not get about muh PROTRACTED people's war?"
Because PPW is universal and no it doesn't just mean surrounding the cities from the countryside, there is extensive literature on this and PPWs have had a degree of success in establishing urban base areas (Peru and India) and non-PPW groups have incidentally done the same (IRA). The PCP applied PPW in the best and most meticulous way and they reached strategic equilibrium within 12 years.
>When will they win a revolution?
It will be in your lifetime faggot. Lurking and posting in Maoist communities online I have never seen another political subculture full of anyone even a fraction as devoted, humble and disciplined as they are

Barely anybody gives a shit about your pathetic "hate" thread which you obviously made because you lost or saw someone losing an argument to MLMs online and are cowering on an anonymous forum. Also funny that you're so insecure and wanting an echochamber you made your own thread instead of making these critical remarks in the already-existing MLM thread. Go fuck yourself OP
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 No.394227

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>>394221
HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH
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 No.394228

>>394222
Good how it doesn’t say anything like that retard, quote the fucking party where it does or shut the fuck up
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 No.394230

>>394221
>>but, le perfect Soviet Premier
no one ever said this stalin stills remains as completelly different to the retard who led a bunch of students into the mountains to kill peasants and then got his whole movement anhihilated by being captured nothing like this ever happened to stalin
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 No.394231

>>394227
So is it retarded or not to make statements like “x leader lost”
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 No.394232

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 No.394234

>>394230
>Stalin never fucked up and got people slaughtered
Ask the Greeks lmao, ask the Palestinians
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 No.394235

>>394232
Yes it is annoying that you dengoids literally cannot read
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 No.394236

>>394226
>Gonzalo literally visited China for a time and abandoned his career to lead a proletarian revolution and become the world's foremost political prisoner. He was utterly committed to the masses.
abandoning your career to go convince some students to join your cult that literally venerates you like a relligious figure, sending them to die on the mountains all while you chill in the city is not that much of a sacrifice
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 No.394237

>>394226
What are these Maoist online communities?
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 No.394239

>>394234
gonzalo didn't just "fucked up" here and there he literally got his movement anhilated along with the rest of the leftist movement in peru only after decades of hard work the damage made by the shining path has started to being fixed (not without the interference of the bastardized remnants SP ofc)
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 No.394240

>>394236
Didn't he visit during the cultural revolution as well? Which is worse because that was literally a petty bourgeois movement. Let's just arm peasants with slogans instead of actually proletarianizing them!
(Collectivizing before further industrialization was a bad fucking idea).
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 No.394243

>>394226
You sound so fucking mad lmao. This isn't even worth responding to.
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 No.394247

>>394226
>Learn basic base and superstructure brainlet. Can you name a single cultural attitude challenged during the GPCR where it was wrong to do so?

I'm sorry, how do you change society with something so abstract like culture?
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 No.394248

>>394239

>he got his movement annihilated

No, that would be the fascist, genocidal state you people consistently apologise for.

Gonzalo made the correct decision.

>brazilian communists

unarmed, slaughtered
>chilean communists
unarmed, slaughtered
>indonesian communists
unarmed, mao literally told them to arm, one before, slaughtered,

on the other hand

>Nicaraguan communists

heavily armed ,still around
>Cuban Communists
heavily armed, still around
>tupamoros
heavily armed, won out eventually

DO YOU SEE A PATTERN, CAN YOU MAYBE UNDERSTAND WHY MAYBE POSSIBLY SUCH A MILITARISED MOVEMENT WAS POSSIBLY MAYBE THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE LATE 80S AND EARLY 90S YOU DUMBASS FUCKING RETARD LIBSHIT CUNT. FUCK OFF, SICK, SICK, SICK TO DEATH OF YOU FUCKING WESTERN LIBS ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW A THING. YOU DON'T. WATCHING CALEB MAUPIN STREAMS IS NOT KNOWING THINGS. IT ISN'T READ A GOD DAMN BOOK, AND STOP LITERALLY SIMPING FOR THE CIA.

>OOOOH THE DAMAGE OF SP IS ONLY JUST BEING REPAIRED

EL EM AY OH UYGHA YOU SAY THIS IN DEFENSE OF STALIN? WHO YES, 10000% SHOULD BE DEFENDED, OF COURSE, BUT APPARENTLY TO RETARDS LIKE YOU, ONLY SP HAS DAMAGED THE REPUTATION OF THE LEFT, AND LIBERALS ACTUALLY FUCKING LOVE STALIN AND NOBODY SAYS BAD THINGS ABOUT HIM

HOLY

FUCKING

SHIT YOU ARE SUCH AN INTERNET BRAINED FUCKING SPASTIC.
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 No.394249

tell me how
>but gonzalo lost :(
>people died :(

is literally any different of an analysis then

>but communism killed gorrilions and collapsed and everyone was in bread lines


that is what you sound like when you say things like
>but anon gonzalo lost
you're a fucking moron, you deserve to be boiled
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 No.394250

>>394248
Lmao black and white thinking manifesting in caps.
Seethe harder Maofag.
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 No.394252

>>394236
>cult that literally venerates you like a religious figure
Is there any instance of the PCP attributing superhuman feats to Gonzalo? or omniscience? or exceptional ability in all things? They popularized his image because all movements of all classes have leaders who are developed by their own abilities and historical circumstance. There is nothing to suggest that they did anything except recognize his positive qualities and accomplishments while acknowledging that everyone can make errors.
>>394247
By diminishing the legitimacy and propagandistic strengths of bourgeois forces seeking to restore capitalism.
>>394237
You will find them on Twitter, Discord, Reddit and so on if you seek them out
>>394243
soy
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 No.394253

>>394250
make a single argument xionist
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 No.394259

>>394226
>foremost political prisoner
No one outside of leftist circles or Peru knows what a Gonzalo is, starting a revolution means literally nothing, he also called it off when captured and got captured a la Scooby Doo detective work in an upper middle class neighborhood
>"If a state doesn't do X policy then they are not true socialism"
Cannot into dialectics, a robot with script
>absolutely based like BTFOing DSA members
Being public nuisances, babbling about niche failed movements and beating up socdems (or alternatively, getting beat up by the cops) doesn't make you revolutionary, it makes you a LARPer lmfao, no normal person was converted by some PMC college kids with red bags bothering normal people trying to have fun, touch grass
>Universal because I say it is, despite it only having worked in extremely rural countries
>some schizos sloganeering means they were just as powerful as the Peruvian state, which had more guns, more soldiers, more of the population on its side/boundaries during the entire conflict, etc.
>in your lifetime faggot
<Philippines has been at it since 1969
<Naxalites since 1967
<Shining Path crumbled in the late 90s and was dead by 2000
Nepal was actually successful, let's be fair (but it was also extremely rural and a good chunk of the support was anti-monarchist/republican, and they've done jack shit beyond set up the equivalent of the Russian Provisional Government)
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 No.394260

Also,

>makes an "anti maoist hate thread"

>proceeds to spend the thread calling others mad
Dengists are actual, literal, autists.
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 No.394261

>>394253
The CPC is the most powerful communist party in existence today.
Palestine is a tiny matter in the grand scheme of things that Maoists like to moralfag without doing anything just for leverage against Chayna!

You are irrelevant. You can only scream Xionist while thinking such a portmanteau is so clever.

You can only magnify one tiny instance in China's foreign policy that matches with your bullshit understanding of Lenin's imperialism. I have never seen any proof of monopoly capitalists actually having power over the CPC other than 'XI IS A BILLIONAIRE AND THEY ALLOW BILLIONAIRES IN THE PARTY!!! REEEE!'. You stop at the analysis, stopping at isolated events, but can never view things as a fucking system.
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 No.394263

>>394248
Sendero no es recibido bien aca gringo
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 No.394264

>>394248
gonzalo didnt armed communists he armed a bunch of cultist retards that then killed actual leftists
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 No.394265

>>394264
Maoism, let me resound, is a petty bourgeois movement.
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 No.394266

Nunca sabre como es que Abimael y Sendero Luminoso son vistos mejor en el extranjero que aca XD, una falta de educacion
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 No.394267

>>394261
>The CPC is the most powerful communist party in existence today.
>communism is when you are consistently allied with the CIA in literally every instance
>angola
>afghanistan
>nicaragua
>the phillipines
>israel

>palestine is a small matter

kek
>being pro palestinian is moralism
no you retarded fuck, its anti imperialism in a very material way. Building US military bases is not anti imperialist and therefore not communist. You cannot be pro imperialist and a communist, communism is anti capitalism, and imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism.

>You are irrelevant.

you aren't even getting Xi bucks you do it for free, that is the saddest part, bernie got cucked, corbyn got cucked, so now Xi is your great hope.

>You can only magnify one tiny instance in China's foreign policy

its chinas entire forien policy, in all of the above mention places, all of which have been taking an active roll in the slaughter of communists.

>I have never seen any proof of monopoly capitalists actually having power over the CPC

if communists had the power they wouldn't slaughter communists.

>>394264
lmao
> Tupac Shakur revoltuionary movement are the actual leftists.
you better not be the same retard saying SP had no support LOL
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 No.394271

>um ackshually protracted people's war has nothing to do with fighting on the countryside and taking over the city it has to do with defense, stalemate and offense and setting up your base. Read Mao. Read a book dengist

Goddamn. Read Clausewitz.
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 No.394272

todos los dengistas son gringos
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 No.394273

los anti maoístas son liberales occidentales
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 No.394274

>muh Dengism! Muh stalinism!
Same song of the resounding faggot losers.
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 No.394275

>>394273
>>394272
Gonzalo was 100% gringo.
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 No.394276

>>394274
>muh maoism
same song of the resounding faggot losers
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 No.394279

>>394275
So was Marx, so was Jose Mujica. So fucking what
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 No.394286

File: 1626976875490.jpg (5.73 KB, 300x300, dl.jpg)

>>394252
He's referenced over 50 times in the General Political Line of the Communist party of Peru, with such lines as
>"We base ourselves on Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, Gonzalo Thought, principally Gonzalo Thought, on the ideology of the proletariat, which is the highest expression of humanity, the only true, scientific and invincible ideology."
<"It is a Party of the new type which generated the Great Leader of the Peruvian revolution, Chairman Gonzalo, the greatest living Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, who leads the Party. He is the guarantee of the triumph of the revolution who will carry us to Communism."
>"In our case, the Peruvian revolution has generated Gonzalo Thought because Chairman Gonzalo is the highest expression of the fusion of the universal ideology with the concrete practice of the Peruvian revolution."
<"The Great Leadership of Chairman Gonzalo who handles revolutionary theory and has a knowledge of history and a profound understanding of the practical movement; who through hard two-line struggle has defeated revisionism, the right and left liquidationism, the right opportunist line and rightism. He has reconstituted the Party, leads it in the People’s War and has become the greatest living Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, a great political and military strategist, a philosopher, a teacher of Communists, and the center of Party unity."
>"Our Party has defined that leadership is key and it is the duty of all militants to constantly work to defend and preserve the leadership of the Party and very especially the leadership of Chairman Gonzalo, our Great Leadership, against any attack inside or outside the Party and to subject ourselves to his personal leadership and command by raising the slogans of “Learn From Chairman Gonzalo” and “Embody Gonzalo Thought.”
<"We maintain the principle that the leadership never dies. We who follow Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, Gonzalo Though, subject ourselves to Chairman Gonzalo and embody Gonzalo Thought."
https://gplpcp.wordpress.com/line-of-construction-of-the-three-instruments-of-the-revolution/
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 No.394290

>>394259
>No one outside of leftist circles or Peru knows what a Gonzalo is
wrong rxtxrd https://youtu.be/PClxCk6yMJE
>he also called it off when captured and got captured a la Scooby Doo detective work in an upper middle class neighborhood
There is no evidence he called for capitulation, those are lies spread by the reactionary Old State. Also he wasn't in an upper middle class neighborhood when he got captured wtf are you talking about. He would have had a better quality of life if he had just stayed a professor but he gave it all up for the masses
>>"If a state doesn't do X policy then they are not true socialism"
>Cannot into dialectics, a robot with script
If a state's policy consists of restoring capitalism it isn't socialist (USSR, modern China. Cuba never got rid of capitalism in the first place)
>Being public nuisances, babbling about niche failed movements and beating up socdems (or alternatively, getting beat up by the cops) doesn't make you revolutionary, it makes you a LARPer lmfao
Ok so you're going to ignore all the organizing they actually have done
>some schizos sloganeering means they were just as powerful as the Peruvian state, which had more guns, more soldiers, more of the population on its side/boundaries during the entire conflict, etc.
People, not weapons, are decisive. Mao knew this. The PCP had the peasants on its side and you are completely uninformed if you don't understand this. The Old State led campaigns of annihilation and genocide because they couldn't tell who was a guerrilla and who was an ordinary peasant. Millions in Peru thought they would seize power. People called before congress and RAND corporation lizards in the US thought it was plausible. They controlled half the country.
><Philippines has been at it since 1969
><Naxalites since 1967
The Philippines and India have multiple times more people in them than Peru does, ofc it'd take longer. Also the PPW in India has not always been united and there is revisionism in the leadership of both of those you listed.
><Shining Path crumbled in the late 90s and was dead by 2000
The People's War in Peru is still going on, they literally sign international statements https://tribuneofthepeoplenews.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/translation_-conversations-w-c.-laura.pdf http://www.redsun.org/mpp.htm
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 No.394291

>>394279
Este gringo no sabe que Guzman y su comite son fantasmas en un pais de cholos csm
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 No.394295

>>394286
I have read the GPL before there are no lies here
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 No.394323

>>394290
>"OUTSIDE OF LEFTST CIRCLES"
<links the closest thing we've got to a Maoist 4th International Propaganda video
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
>"Never surrendered"
You literally know nothing, embed related, Surquillo was a middle class neighborhood in the 1990s, the place was a ballet/modern dance school, he's buddies with Montesinos in prison, who runs a mafia, he lives fine
>restoring capitalism
URSS did not do this, China is not capitalist, delusional about Cuba
>ignore all the organizing
What organizing, Kmart parking lot LARPing means nothing, they're going to get shot by the surrounding people, not even the cops, if they try anything in any rural state, which is the only plausible place they could start unless you want to get destroyed immediately by the FBI as opposed to basically immediately
>peasants on its side
You mean the demographic that had 1/3rd of itself urbanized over the course of 2 decades (and was only about 35% to begin with), controlling jungles and mountains means nothing, they never really controlled cities
<excessive coping about 50 long year insurgencies
Both of those countries had smaller populations than China did when the "PPW" started, all successful revolutions were over either within a couple of years to 25-30 years, and they were making constant large gains in China all the time, as opposed to these movements, which kill a couple of cops monthly at best
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 No.394340

>>394323
>all successful revolutions were over either within a couple of years to 25-30
kek anti colonial struggles went on for 100s of years and the class war is still ongoing you dumb faggot
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 No.394342

>>394340
Not all anti-colonial and class struggles are guided by ML.
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 No.394344

>>394323
Forgot to say, 3 digit or 4 digit army while being cornered in the VRAE, which is crawling with soldiers, basically being a cartel, is not a war, it is called narcotrafficking
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 No.394351

>>394340
>Conflating general struggles with armed conflict
LMAO
Also, how long did the Chinese Revolution last, was it from 1927 to 1949, or did it actually start with the Boxer Rebellion, or better yet, the Taiping Rebellion or the Opium Wars?
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 No.394355

>>394340
Retard wars have concrete starts and finishes
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 No.394356

>>394342
>revolution literally didn't exist before marxism leninism
read Lenin lmao dumbass

>>394344
>narcotrafficking
kek, CIA libs literally cannot help themselves

>>394351
I'm not conflating shit, what I said remains, anti colonial struggles, such as in india, lasted for 100s of years.
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 No.394357

>>394355
when did the class war start
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 No.394364

>>394356
Literally didn't say nor imply that.
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 No.394368

>>394364
okay spell it out then what did you mean, why did you bother to write that?
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 No.394374

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>>394357
Class war is always happening you dumb faggot, that doesn't mean we're actively in war times right now globally
>>394356
"Valle de los Ríos Apurímac, Ene y Mantaro"
Keep getting BTFO and not responding to anything like a bitch lmfao, all you can do is try to deny reality
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 No.394379

>>394356
Coca leaves are native to the region dumbass, they've been used since antiquity
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 No.394381

>>394374
>Class war is always happening you dumb faggot,
oh, so not all wars have a concrete beginning and end then? I see. No problem then. We agree.

>not responding

I'm responding to everything lmao. Accusing the left of being narcotraffickers is a classic CIA tactic, when its them doing the trafficking. Plus, FARC did it, because they needed to. Whats the problem? I suppose you have some half baked columbian succdem you prefer to Farc don't you
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 No.394386

>>394374
>that doesn't mean we're actively in war times right now globally

kek, anti maoists think we aren't at war. this is the cutest part. Just because hes not pointing a gun at you directly, doesn't mean porky is not carrying out his war. See this is the thing, dengoids are simply deeply naive
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 No.394387

>>394379
yeh so? What point of mine does that change? It backs it up, libs are always complaining about narcotrafficking and so are the CIA
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 No.394388

>>394356
https://nacla.org/article/peruvian-cocaine-and-boomerang-history#:~:text=By%20the%20mid%2D1980s%2C%20with,its%20once%2Dmodest%20legal%20industry.
"By the mid-1980s, with more than 120,000 hectares in the Huallaga alone, Peru prevailed in the growing end of the global coca-cocaine industry, which reached an overall illicit capacity of around 1,000 tons, almost 100 times the peak of its once-modest legal industry."
map is https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Map-outlining-each-of-the-known-South-American-coca-growing-regions-investigated_fig1_299369374
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 No.394398

>>394381
That's great and all, but what do you think is the primary focus at this point that they've more or less died off and only have a couple of hundred members, operate exclusively within a coca growing zone, and have 0 support elsewhere? Does this help the struggle at all? Are they growing in numbers? Are they gaining more territory? Or are they just largely a cartel painted red that is probably tolerated by the state because the drug trade pays?
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 No.394399

>>394388
>At the same time in Peru, the authoritarian regime of Alberto Fujimori finally cracked down on the Huallaga—less out of displeasure with drugs per se, than as part of a campaign to crush the Sendero Luminoso guerrillas thriving in the lawless zone. This repression included a risky U.S.-assisted “shoot-down” policy against trafficker bridge flights to Colombia.

yes, you are on the side of the US backed fujimori so?
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 No.394400

>>394398
evo morales was literally a coca farmer you fucking idiot
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 No.394407

>>394381
Kicked off when class society began, but that's not war in the colloquial sense nor "A war" barring socialist revolutions
>>394386
Touch grass, you're not some clandestine operative, you just wish to feel like you're more important and doing more than you actually are to cope with your lack of influence in the real world due to being a gringoid
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 No.394409

>>394407
Yes, porky is at war with you.

>y..you’re not influential

So fucking what did I ever claim to be? Doesn’t change the material fact that porky is at war with you, maybe we’d be at war back but instead trot faggots like you just endlessly complain online, always in favour of the fucking CIA, literally every time.
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 No.394410

>>394399
Literally false dilemma fallacy lmfao
>>394400
That is relevant how? Evo Morales is both Bolivian and not a revolutionary
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 No.394416

>>394410
Eh, no sweety, the MAS party operate in coca regions, so eh, they are literally just a cartel painted red after all the right wing press said so
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 No.394419

>>394410
It’s not a false dilemma, there are two sides you dumb idealist Lib. You don’t get your fantasy third side that never existed
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 No.394420

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>>394409
>Gonzalo Surrender https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQkCBvSQVo
>Feliciano Surrender https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUM9HWik3qk
"The people of our country, I, like many other people, made the decision to change that state of affairs to make a new country to make Peru a better one, but it happens that we assume a wrong ideology, the nefarious Gonzalo thought that led us to commit Many mistakes and in the end led us to a dead end. Many lessons have to be learned from these two decades, one of them in my view is that war is better avoided as a philosopher said, war is a monster of killing among men, that many times from being a means becomes an end, and if you can sometimes express heroic acts, the most extreme passions of human beings will also be expressed and war ends up dehumanizing us, it is For all that, what when a chain of hate and revenge is established, because hate generates more hate, revenge more revenge, and in the war that dynamics is produced, the war itself drives that, and when such a chain occurs, after It is difficult to break, I think that is why it is better to avoid wars, I would also like to talk to you about democracy, after many reflections I have also come to the conclusion that democracy, despite all its problems and limitations, is the best system Coexistence between human beings is better than any totalitarianism, because totalitarianism only brings intolerance and restricts the freedom of human beings, we have had in the 20th century, great lessons from totalitarian systems that led to negative situations for humanity, I think That this experience will have to bring out the positive that serves for the future, but in my opinion, democracy is always better than any totalitarian dictatorship, I want to take the occasion to invoke the state and society and all of you to have consideration and understanding with all the political prisoners. A democratic society must express its moral and judicial political superiority by giving the opportunity to rehabilitate and rejoin political prisoners and prisoners in general in society, but what is happening, life imprisonment or the sentences that have been given and what They are going to be given from 30 to 35 years. It is practically a death to all political prisoners, and that cannot be, that is to continue that chain of revenge and hatred that we must banish from our society. I also want to invoke the comrades who are still up in arms, so that they seek to establish a dialogue with the government in order to reach an understanding. I extend the invocation to the state, to the Peruvian government, to facilitate this dialogue in such a way that a solution can be found to that problem that still afflicts our country. Those people who are still there, are Peruvians like us, who also have a cause, and most of the remaining ones are peasants, therefore for the sake of national reconciliation, it should be seen to solve this problem in a way that is not military, finally , to reiterate once again, my deepest condolences to all the people who were affected by the internal war, and especially to those who had lost beings who were left, I finally thank the commission of truth and reconciliation for this opportunity for allowing me to reach all of you, thank you very much."
>Artemio saying he wants to surrender https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/08/artemio-peru-shining-path-commander
<tfw 3 consecutive leaders all turncoat
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 No.394421

>>394420
Explain how any of this is relevant to any of the points i made
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 No.394422

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>>394416
>strawmanning this hard
Which stage gringo?
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 No.394424

>>394420
Imagine shifting the goal posts this hard lmao

>war has concrete start don’t you know

It doesn’t
>well, uh yes, but it isn’t happening just now
It is
>well uh, didn’t you know this guy surrendered after being captured
So what uygha lmao doesn’t change shit, why the copium posters always coping the hardest? The projection is real smh
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 No.394426

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 No.394429

>>394422
It’s not a straw man.

The poster said that because SP are in a coca region they are simply a cartel.

I am saying because MAS literally started by a coca farmer and operate largely in coca regions, they are also simply a cartel

If you don’t like your own fucking logic, you should change it you dumb shit motherfucker

Every dengist should fucking kill themselves. They can do it by joining a communist movement and then Xi will do it for them along with the CIA. Scum.
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 No.394432

>>394426
So fucking what. Explain yourself you little worm, you accuse me of not answering stuff and coping all you do is change the goal posts and deflect and repeat literal CIA Lib talking points. You’re a fucking joke of an individual. Stop watching Caleb Maupin and read a fucking book. I doubt btw, Caleb would ever deny that anti colonial struggles took 100s of years as you seem to be trying to do.

You’re a dumbass youtube Lord. Accept it and fuck off back to your Reddit posts
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 No.394435

File: 1626981258187.gif (450.41 KB, 220x220, cope.gif)

>>394429
>MAS rejects electoralism
>MAS gets its funding exclusively from the drug trade
>MAS is a militarized party
>MAS is a revolutionary communist party
>MAS is 350-1000 guys in the jungle drug smuggling
>>394432
>"you accuse me of not answering stuff and coping"
It's really all you've done, you have made no points this entire time
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 No.394438

>>394435
Yeh it’s almost as if there are other factors to if something is a cartel or not. Almost the exact point I was making.

You are actually brain dead
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 No.394439

>>394435
We already know you're a socdem
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 No.394445

>>394438
When you are that size and in those circumstances, and are not growing, what is the incentive of the incorruptible guerillas? Just answer that
>>394439
How? Because I criticized your pet group and hurt your feelings?
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 No.394457

>>394445
You haven't hurt most peoples feelings because you've made a really poor performance in this thread. So far MLMs are kicking the right-wing opportunists ass and all you have left is your unfounded smugness that you are leaning very heavily on right now.
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 No.394469

>>394457
<unsuccessful 50 year long armed revolutions and 1st world LARP
>"kicking the right-wing opportunists ass"
You sink into further obscurity and irrelevance with each passing day, at least in the 70s and 80s there was a bit of novelty, but in 10 years all of the marginal and irrelevant groups you support (which is irrelevant, your willpower will change nothing and no revolution will occur in the local Kmart parking lot in Ohio) will be 60 years old instead of 50, and they'll be in the same position or worse off than they currently are, and it will happen again in 20 years, and again in 30 years. It is already an enormous cope that they've been at it for this long and are still the size they are and their actions amount to killing some cops every so often, they haven't even displaced large amounts of the population and caused constant blackouts in the capital like the Shining Path did, they're that much of a non-threat
Face it, the only thing that will grow is how much you cope daily believing that any day now the Naxalites or Filipinos will win, just like other retards have been doing for the past century LMFAO
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 No.394473

>>394469
>Seething with hatred against revolutionary movements
Curious. Odd look to be so smug about.
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 No.394480

>>394266
Ni en el extranjero, sino los 5 maocos que siempre rondan aqui, por algo este es un espacio para todas las izquierdas.
>>394435
The most funny thing in this thread is maoists comparing the Traditional use of coca leafs with the cocaine traffic.
Like holy hell.
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 No.394487

>>394469
Never said I didn't support them despite all of my criticisms, but they just serve as a good boogeyman to rally support for Duterte and little else, do you think that it's cool to fetishize unsuccessful movements and copepost trying to excuse abject failure? "Existing" for this long is a bare minimum that even groups like the Taliban can manage, and even then, the Taliban have actually had more success militarily, so what are the communist's excuses?
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 No.394503

>>394473
Scratch an anarchist and a liberal bleeds, but I repeat myself
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 No.394509

>>394480
Exactamente, la coca se puede masticar y usar para hacer mate de coca, pero es obvio que un grupo que necesita acumular fondos para mantenerse vivos no van a ser comerciantes o vendedores ambulantes de coca, la plata esta en el narco-trafico, todos los grupos, sean del gobierno, paramilitares, guerrillero, o terrorista se involucran porque seria estupido no hacer lo, sino el otro partido tomara tu parte. Y de los seguidores de abimael estas totalmente correcto, Maocos Magos del internet
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 No.396170

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 No.396183

>>394503
Kek you are the anarchists
>oooh noooo how can you kill the innocent right wing militia members oooh sooo authoritarian you have ruined the reputation of socialism normies don’t like it
>communism has failed
>why couldn’t you just have voooted the genocidal fujimori cos regime out of power
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 No.396191

>anti Maoist hate thread
Kek, imagine getting btfo so hard one time you make one of these threads like once a week for an entire two years. Lmao.
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 No.396237

>>396191
Not even mad though. Just like reminding them how much faggot little losers they are.
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 No.396239

Are you retarded? Maoism is alive and successful. China's growth proves that.
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 No.396256

>>396239
>Maoism is when something is successful.
Be gone, leech.
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 No.396259

>>396256
I said China (you know, that country that's ruled by a maoist party and that's been growing non-stop since the late 70's s) is proof of Maoism being successful. I never gave a definition of "successful", retard.
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 No.396261

>>396259
Hey I'm a china-based dude, but you don't know what you're talking about. Maoism isnt just when Chinese people do politics.
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 No.396262

>>396259
Lmao. You don't need to give one because clearly you don't know what Maoism is.
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 No.396275

>>394027
Mautism led to dengism. Can’t oppose one without the other.
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 No.396282

Mao wasn't a degenerate Maoist
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 No.396839

>>396183
>normies don't like it
uyghur a socdem barely won 30 years after neoliberalism took power and the media was able to successfully spook a good chunk of the population into thinking that Evo-Lite was some sort of radical, you're delusional if you think that the Shining Path's retardation didn't lead to massive pushback and you evidently haven't talked to any Peruvians if you think that they're popular over there
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 No.396875

>>396170
cringe
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 No.396878

>>392837
why? it didn't historically belong to argentina. the brits aren't hurting or oppressing anyone by owning the island. there are no native inhabitants.
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 No.396921

>>396878
If burgers could not stand britbongs, what makes you think argentinians would want them to have a claim to any land near them?
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 No.396937

>>396878
>Defending a neocolonial imperial core monarchy on /leftypol/
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 No.396951

>>396937
brits owning the falkland islands isn't harming anyone, so why care?
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 No.396954

>>396951
Argentinians, like the burgers don't want britbongs at their footstep. They're just disgusting.
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 No.396983

File: 1627076565820.jpg (2.34 MB, 4096x2731, buckingham-palace.jpg)

>>396951
Because the UK is exploiting its resources for the material benefit of its empire. Are you dense? Are you one of the paid shills for that geriatric old hag?
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 No.397005

>>396983

It's a barren rock with some sheep on it, it has no value and is just there so the brits don't lose their ego
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 No.397040

>>397005
Anarchist doing damage control for imperialism. Not a new sight these last couple of years. Oh how your movement have fallen.
>with some sheep
A million of them, to be exact.
>just [agriculture]
In reality it is only the second largest industry for the Royal Family and her transnational finance capitalist Tories. The main is fisheries, which spans an area of 2.7 million square km. Every single British Overseas Territory is to be liberated as well.

Also, I'm not even a Maoist, I'm an ML. Just pushing back on glowies / tools and it just so happens to be in this thread now apparently.
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 No.397073

>>397040
Who are the glowies ITT
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 No.397087

>>396878
>it didn't historically belong to argentina
That's pretty debatable. Argentinians consider it an illegitimate occupation because british ships landed there in 1833 unprovokedly and overthrew the local argentine government, and by that time Britain had long recognized argentinian independence and had signed a commerce treaty with her, so they consider it a case of Anglo perfidy.
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 No.397106

File: 1627080543306.webm (7.05 MB, 448x336, brother hao.webm)

>>392823
>>392948
Mao was based up until 1956 and three worlds theory fucked everything up
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 No.398056

>>397073
Dengists side with glowies on 100% of occasions
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 No.398074

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So we hate Maoist or Anti-Maoists?
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 No.398090

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>>398056
Rent free.
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 No.398104

>>398090
>he says
>as he makes anti Maoist thread no.34576980

Nothing to say about that glowie comment though do you
>laughs in contra
>laughs in IDF
>laughs in UNITA
>laughs in Mujihadeen
>laughs in duterte
>laughs in Mohammed bin Salmen
>laughs covered in houthi blood
>laughs in disarming North Korea
Lmaoooo dengists - CIA pipeline, it’s less than an inch long
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 No.398108

>>398104
>what is realpolitics and Soviet threatening China
>what is mental gymnastics that supporting China is a CIA psyop
Take your meds schizo.
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 No.398114

File: 1627127434842.mp4 (7.52 MB, 854x480, 1626883275747-1.mp4)

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 No.398124

>>398108
All of those are instances where objectively, factually, dengoid china has allied directly with CIA anti communist forces.

The USA used realpolitik to justify its actions too. Doesn’t make it good.

Cope harder. Explain how selling arms to the contras was part of anti soviet real poltik, the Sandinistas were famously not supported by the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union doesn’t exist today and China continues to build up Israel today. For the 90s and 2000s when china was arming anti communists in the phillipines, the Soviet Union also didn’t exist.

>dengists refusing to answer to history

Can’t decide which is better when they straight don’t know or do this denial deflect and cope thing
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 No.398130

>>398114
There are also more poor people in America than Norway guess Norway is communist now, who cares if they suppprt the imperial agenda
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 No.398170

>>398104
>Lmaoooo dengists - CIA pipeline, it’s less than an inch long
<Austin Red Guards Exist
>NOT REAL MAOISM, ITS GONZALOISM REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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 No.398179

>>398170
>several proven instances of dengoids taking active roll in the slaughter of communists engaged in anti imperial struggle in key geopolitical situations

Vs

>but muh muh muh literal hunch with no sources or proof that one tiny nothing burger group calling themselves Maoist were CIA


Epic cope dengoids literally btfo themselves all thread lmao
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 No.398182

>>398179
Stalin also killed communists, too. And?
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 No.398185

somebody source me on "Red Guards = CIA" for real. i don't just mean "they are feds because they disagree with me/too violent/too sectarian/anti-Deng" but an actual source
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 No.398196

>>398185
Either you don't know communist history or you're kind of a fucking retard if you need a direct source on that.
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 No.398198

>>398196
no uighur, i'm asking because people keep making the accusation without backing it up. that would be called fedjacketing, and it is also a cointelpro tactic by coincidence. i asked for the source because i'm giving you benefit of the doubt, maybe this is not fedjacketiing but sincere.
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 No.398203

>>398198
Lmao. Do you have any idea how many times red guards have not only fed jacketed but cop jacketed others?
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 No.398204

>>398203
no, i don't. which is why i asked for a source.
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 No.398208

>>398182
>Stalin also killed communists
Did he do this shoulder to shoulder with the CIA?

Did he do this in direct conflict with the Soviet Union?

Did he do this directly alongside international capital in order to suppress socialism? Or did he do this because they were revisionists conspiring to destroy socialism?

When did he do this? In what historical context

Dengoids are honestly complete and total retards. Far and away the least informed, least read, redditoid retards
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 No.398213

>>398196
Yes if you are going to accuse someone of being a fed you need a source lol

It’s just hilarious the way the dengoid mind works

>here is like 40 years of concrete history showing many times denist China actively allied with the CIA


And your answer is literally “well I think red guards are feds” and you honestly are trying to compare these two situations.

How many people have red guards killed for the CIA then?

A big fat fucking zero.

Do you have any idea the kind of shit the contras by themselves, not including any of the other examples, even did? To people, just because they were leftist or leftist affiliated? Mass rape, torture, the dissembowling of babies and children, rape of underage girls.

Just fucking stop. Accept you don’t know what you are talking about.
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 No.398216

>>398208
>>398213
stay based anon
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 No.398220

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 No.398225

>>398220
aaaa you herby english bastard! fuck it, i'm believing in Sage Supremacy now.
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 No.398245

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>>394276
MLM is a perma loser ideology just like Trotskyism
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 No.398247

>>398245
>Iow capitalism wins again
Go back to your home imageboard cap/pol/talist
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 No.398376

>>398245
>t. CIA
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 No.398561

Bumping for more dengoid cope
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 No.399060

>>398213
>Mass rape, torture, the dissembowling of babies and children, rape of underage girls.
cry more moralfag
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 No.399064

>>398247
>>398376
No arguments, just seething
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 No.399073

>>399060
Oof, mask off moment.
Hi porky.
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 No.399105

>>399073
why does any of that shit matter you massive faggot
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 No.399130

>>394226
based and celibatepilled
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 No.399135

>>399060
Feel like this could be a false-flag
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 No.399138

>>399105
Because nobody likes a movement full of psychotic nonces.
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 No.399147

>>399138
just more moralizing, why do you give a fuck what is liked or not liked, is irrelevant
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 No.399151

>>399147
Because my goal is to win over enough people to win, not be a nonce. I think that's the issue we're split on, nonce.
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 No.399155

>>399151
Give any examples where "being nice" got success and ones where "being mean" resulted in frustrations you British fuck
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 No.400301

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 No.400307

>>392980
If you are being serious, go do adventurist petty bourgeois bullshit elsewhere
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 No.400309

>>393365
Based Viet poster strikes again
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 No.400387

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 No.400462

>>393365
fax
based
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 No.400550

>>399135
It’s just consistent dengism, this is what you support if you support dengism not getting around it
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 No.400553

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>>392839
>Thus the very premise of petty-bourgeois radicalism is that it is impossible to win the working class in the struggle against capitalism. From this it follows that mass concepts of struggle are not possible, necessary or realistic. This leads to actions based on small elite groups––or to individual action.
>Because this concept is not concerned with winning over masses, it promotes and condones actions that alienate masses. There is an inner logic to this path. Specific actions are taken because there is a lack of confidence in mass–in class–actions. These ill-considered actions result in widening the gap between the petty-bourgeois radical movements and the masses.
>This widening gap then becomes “proof” that you cannot win masses and therefore the line of conduct of these movements is justified. Each step leads to a further isolation. This is the inner logic of petty-bourgeois radicalism.
Good fucking Lord.

HOW COULD ONE MAN BE SO UNGODLY BASED?

FUCK RADLIBS, FUCK THIRD WORLDISTS, FUCK WESTERN MAOISTS! UPHOLD GUS HALL THOUGHT!!!
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 No.400554

>>399064
>dengoids constantly allying with the CIA is just me seething
No this is just you coping
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 No.400556

>>400553
>cpusa
Speaking of feds lmao
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 No.400557

Oh and btw cpusa believe that strikes are direct action
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 No.400559

>>400556
Who isnt feds?
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 No.400591

>>400550
I'm a Maoist retard
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 No.400607

>>400591
It changes nothing, moralfagging is moralfagging, eat shit
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 No.401016

>>400591
So dengists didn’t send arms to the contras then?
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 No.401048

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>>400591
>>400607
>>401016
Looks like is another instance of the collapse of the maoist front.
This time because one anon is a psycho that didn't take his meds
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 No.401231

>>401016
Are these Dengists in the room with you?
Even if they are, why are you tagging me, a Maoist, for Dengist answers that are pretty fucking obvious, China has a bad foreign policy, it's their weak spot and it dates back to Mao
Get back to moral fagging you pussy bitch, you got your (You) and an answer, now piss off
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 No.401241

>>401048
Kek dengists trying to cop jacket again, but they will be destroyed again with these simple words

>Nicaragua

>afghansitan
>the phillipines
>Israel
Absolutely hilarious you would try to call others feds lmao
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 No.401244

>>401231
>are these dengists in the room with you now
>he says, in the anti Maoist hate thread.

Dengoid Xionists have the lowest self awareness of any group of posters on this board bar none.
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 No.401267

>>401244
Why is the faggot asking me about other tendency's views on some shit that doesn't affect any of us materially, none of this shit matters, no one gives a fuck about it, get off the internet for once and do something IRL
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 No.401372

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>>401267
His only way to cope is to acusse every other anon in the thread of dengism.
While at the same time, sucking Mao's Kissingerian dick.
Frankly, who cares.
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 No.402077

>>400553
I know right? That's why I posted him :3
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 No.402092

>>401267
This statement only makes sense of you're an idealist
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 No.402817

>>402092
>Stop bothering other people on a fucking image board, of all things, about a common question that's been answered multiple times before
>Go outside and talk to other retards like yourself so that we won't have to
>No one gives a flying fuck about your petty squabbling over China, or obscure guerilla groups in 3rd world countries
Somehow all of this is idealism
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 No.402916

>>402817
>Just close your eyes and do communist organizing while ignorant of the world in general
>Red flag China arms the bourgeois state
>Get shot
<Durr howadishappen (idealist, you)
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 No.413376

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>>394248
the same goes for nuclear weapons
>Iraq
muh no nukes
<gets invaded
>Libya
No nukes
<Gadaffi gets sodomized
>Pakistan
Yes nukes
<no amerishart invasion
>DPRK
Yes nukes
<no south korean-amerishart invasion
Take the Nukepill, Nukes keep a country soverign
>unarmed, slaughtered
<Los Bultos cubanos
<MIR
>GAP
Allende was arming itself but the Glowies were faster than him
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 No.413402

>>413376
The problem is the international stigma you get from having nukes.
And also, in latinomarica there is a treaty from the 60's about being a perpetual neutral ground regarding nukes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tlatelolco

https://es.wikisource.org/wiki/Tratado_para_la_Proscripci%C3%B3n_de_las_Armas_Nucleares_en_la_Am%C3%A9rica_Latina_y_el_Caribe
That is why many countries here have nuclear facilities, from Argentina to the abandoned Cuba one, but none of them have interest on making the world a posadist dream.
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 No.413405

>>413402
>Art. 21: Measures in case of violation of the treaty
>2. In the event that, in its judgment, the breach in question constitutes a violation of this Treaty that could endanger peace and security, the General Conference itself shall simultaneously report on it to the Security Council and the General Assembly of the United Nations. United Nations, through the Secretary General of said Organization, as well as the Council of the Organization of American States. The General Conference will also inform the International Atomic Energy Agency for the purposes that are pertinent in accordance with its Statute.
>Art. 31: Validity of the treaty
<1. The present treaty is permanent and will be in force indefinitely
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 No.413406

Maoists are based anti Maoists are seething cucks
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 No.413621

>>392865
>maopill me about gonzalo, why he started attacking peasants and the people he should be protecting? that only caused poor people to hate him.
fujimori started a program to give middle class and upper class peasants guns, bombs and even RPG´s to defend their lands from the party
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 No.413637

>>413405
now you realize why porkies stigmatize nukes and why latin american revolutions where cornered and crushed or became reactionary failed states like Cuba or Venezuela,

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