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 No.495052

Thread for discussing the merits and contributions of the Goths, Huns, Mongols, Celts, and other tribal, nomadic peoples commonly referred to as 'barbarians' by history.

These peoples, often from oppressed and impoverished backgrounds, played a massive role in resisting and occasionally overthrowing the brutal, exploitative and imperialist slave-empires of antiquity, freeing millions of people and advancing the development of human society considerably. While they were not capable of establishing socialism (productive forces were not advanced enough), these revolutionaries should be admired and appreciated by everyone on the modern Left.

 No.495060

>>495052
Didn't the Mongols basically wreck Asian society, cause massive famines and suffering, and generally put that region back hundreds of years?

 No.495069

>>495052
>slavic fascism appreciation thread
Go back

 No.495103

>>495069
When you definitely know what fascism is

 No.495148

>>495052
>Non Anglo enemies appreciation thread
GIGA BASADO

 No.495154

When i was little i was fascinated by the barbarians of history, the more i read about the peoople of the north east and south the more i realize that they were no barbarians at all

 No.495157

The roman empire played a historical progressive role for much of these people, what are you talking about?

 No.495162

>>495154
It’s always the metropole that has the most thuggish, hedonistic and depraved inhabitants within any empire, not the colonies.

 No.495165

>>495157
how though literally all things found in the roman empire could be found among the people they conquered ,the only thing rome had was centralism

 No.495171

>>495060
yes but they were based

 No.495173

>>495165
Government structures, technology and practices for development? Unification into political blocs to oppose the milites at the gates?

 No.495203

>Bloodthirsty genocidal Imperialism by Anglos
<Unamused wojak face
>Bloodthirsty genocidal Imperialism (by people from modern-day economic south)
<BASED BASED BASED BASED
Never change Hazcels

 No.495204

For me, it's the Visigoths.

 No.495206

>>495203
Romans were italian angloids and that is somehow the WORST thing I could possibly imagine.

 No.495208

>>495052
>These peoples, often from oppressed and impoverished backgrounds
Yes i cri evritime when i hear idealist shit like this.

 No.495211

>>495204
were they all actually naked tho?

 No.495220

>>495052
Not properly related but leaving it here
>Barbarians - the disordered insurgence

 No.495222

>>495203
Its just funny knowing that a bunch of spear chuckers on horse back btfo'd entire empires.

 No.495223

>>495222
Their technology was almost identical

 No.495228

>>495223
But one had a much larger population and resources.

 No.495230

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 No.495231

>>495171
Based? Based on what?

 No.495232

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When you're so anti imperialist you circle around to supporting empires because they're not "western"

 No.495233

Turks BTFO'd the Byzantines and liberated the people of Anatolia, let's give a quick shoutout

 No.495235

>>495228
There were much more people living in the steppes than you think

 No.495236

>>495232
>you are now imagining the mirror universe timeline where Mongolia is the center of global finance capital and /leftypol/ posters are supporting unwashed poorfags in Britannia and Andalucia as the best resistance against the tyranny of capital
>also Marx was Chinese but moved to Mongolia (the heart of the industrial revolution) to finish his works

 No.495243

The Song dynasty had a kind of proto-capitalism going before the Mongols basically ruined everything. We coulda had socialism by now but nooo, Genghis Khan had to unite the tribes to get his dick wet.

 No.495253

>>495236
Well, Lenin did have Mongolian ancestry…

 No.495256

>>495204
Whoa…this is just like Antifa…

 No.495277

>>495243
destroying the lives and future of millions just to pussy is pretty based. ngl

 No.495360

>>495052
>These peoples, often from oppressed and impoverished backgrounds, played a massive role in resisting and occasionally overthrowing the brutal, exploitative and imperialist slave-empires of antiquity
And immediately establishing their own brutal, exploitative, and imperialist slave empires. Honestly imposing a progressive-reactionary dichotomy on conflicts between premodern forces doesn't make much sense to me. A clear progression of history towards communism really only appears with the end of feudalism. Prior to that it's mostly petty conflicts between equally oppressive feudal/slave based societies without much significance from the perspective of historical progression.

 No.495396

>>495223
In pre industrial times I would wager having strong and stable institutions is a bigger factor than tech (to an extent) there are plenty of examples of a smaller country with an efficient centralized state beating countries that are more powerful on paper.

 No.497510

>>495220
really good read, thanks anon
>2003
and yet it still feels fresh
idk whether to be sad when i see that old things still have yet to make a huge impact, or to thnk "wow this was ahead of its time" :p


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