Thread for discussing the merits and contributions of the Goths, Huns, Mongols, Celts, and other tribal, nomadic peoples commonly referred to as 'barbarians' by history.
These peoples, often from oppressed and impoverished backgrounds, played a massive role in resisting and occasionally overthrowing the brutal, exploitative and imperialist slave-empires of antiquity, freeing millions of people and advancing the development of human society considerably. While they were not capable of establishing socialism (productive forces were not advanced enough), these revolutionaries should be admired and appreciated by everyone on the modern Left.
Didn't the Mongols basically wreck Asian society, cause massive famines and suffering, and generally put that region back hundreds of years?
>>495052>slavic fascism appreciation thread
When you definitely know what fascism is
When i was little i was fascinated by the barbarians of history, the more i read about the peoople of the north east and south the more i realize that they were no barbarians at all
The roman empire played a historical progressive role for much of these people, what are you talking about?
It’s always the metropole that has the most thuggish, hedonistic and depraved inhabitants within any empire, not the colonies.
how though literally all things found in the roman empire could be found among the people they conquered ,the only thing rome had was centralism
yes but they were based
Government structures, technology and practices for development? Unification into political blocs to oppose the milites at the gates?
>Bloodthirsty genocidal Imperialism by Anglos
<Unamused wojak face
>Bloodthirsty genocidal Imperialism (by people from modern-day economic south)
<BASED BASED BASED BASED
Never change Hazcels
Romans were italian angloids and that is somehow the WORST thing I could possibly imagine.
>>495052>These peoples, often from oppressed and impoverished backgrounds
Yes i cri evritime when i hear idealist shit like this.
were they all actually naked tho?
Its just funny knowing that a bunch of spear chuckers on horse back btfo'd entire empires.
Their technology was almost identical
But one had a much larger population and resources.
Based? Based on what?
Turks BTFO'd the Byzantines and liberated the people of Anatolia, let's give a quick shoutout
There were much more people living in the steppes than you think
The Song dynasty had a kind of proto-capitalism going before the Mongols basically ruined everything. We coulda had socialism by now but nooo, Genghis Khan had to unite the tribes to get his dick wet.
Well, Lenin did have Mongolian ancestry…
Whoa…this is just like Antifa…
destroying the lives and future of millions just to pussy is pretty based. ngl
>>495052>These peoples, often from oppressed and impoverished backgrounds, played a massive role in resisting and occasionally overthrowing the brutal, exploitative and imperialist slave-empires of antiquity
And immediately establishing their own brutal, exploitative, and imperialist slave empires. Honestly imposing a progressive-reactionary dichotomy on conflicts between premodern forces doesn't make much sense to me. A clear progression of history towards communism really only appears with the end of feudalism. Prior to that it's mostly petty conflicts between equally oppressive feudal/slave based societies without much significance from the perspective of historical progression.
In pre industrial times I would wager having strong and stable institutions is a bigger factor than tech (to an extent) there are plenty of examples of a smaller country with an efficient centralized state beating countries that are more powerful on paper.
really good read, thanks anon>2003
and yet it still feels fresh
idk whether to be sad when i see that old things still have yet to make a huge impact, or to thnk "wow this was ahead of its time" :p
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