Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:09:07 No. 519386
But don't you guys already have your own countries' generals?
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:10:07 No. 519387
>>519384 More good music I guess, if anything does go down
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:11:11 No. 519389
>>519386 Only Brits and Krauts are active
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:11:55 No. 519390
whats the deal with "communists" stanning lukashenko? I thought he was a literal nazi?
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:13:57 No. 519393
>>519390 Even if you don't see any point in supporting him calling him a Nazi is such a retardedly braindead thing to say. What makes him a Nazi to you?
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:17:02 No. 519398
>>519396 Fuck off subhuman, we have the USSR to thank for that, not your half assed "help". Back to your containment thread, faggot
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:18:18 No. 519399
>>519393 Didnt he praise Hitler for his public speaking or whatever?
And he tried to assassinate a journalist for exposing a nazi or something?
Honestly I dont know anything about Belarus politics so thats why im asking
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:20:44 No. 519404
>>519390 >>519399 mainstream media brainwashing, many such cases
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:23:02 No. 519410
>>519398 according to my calculations, you fell for bait
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:24:50 No. 519418
>>519399 I have heard about that first shit though only vague comments recalling something he supposedly said, nothing concrete. As always, I would take any Western comments on any geopolitical enemy with a grain of salt, after all these are the people that voted against a UN resolution to condemn neo-nazism just because it was the evil russians proposing it.
For the second point I think you might be thinking of someone else, Lukashenko actually arrested a journalist called Roman Protasevich in that whole plane scandal and that Protasevich guy is either sympathetic to neo-nazis or is one himself, he was affilliated to the Azov Battalion and far-right protesters in last year's protests against the government in Belarus.
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:28:04 No. 519428
>>519418 alright, I got my propaganda mixed up
ty comrade
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:32:21 No. 519437
>>519384 Anyone know if this is a common ocurrence or can we safely expect escalation?
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 01:52:11 No. 519458
>Let's create a better general than /USApol/ That won’t be hard to do at all.
>>519396 C’mon man, don’t embarrass us.
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 04:19:23 No. 519692
>>519384 >>519437 It's nothingburger, Kosovo started taking down Serbian licence plates, because Brussel agreement expired. Serbia is doing that to Kosovo since "independence".
You can see this also as marketing campaign for upcoming election, both in kovoso and serbia.
Tanks and armored vehicles are there for nationalist, who jerk off to that kind of stuff. Vučić, serbian presedent, has been silent for 2 days about situation, he even canceled meetings with Russian and Chinese diplomats, probably because he got bereated by the eu officials
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 04:40:32 No. 519728
>>519382 >>519460 What happened to Wallonia on the map? What is the point of making the entirety of Belgium and Luxembourg controlled by Flanders in Particular? Administering the French and German speaking parts of the country in Dutch will definitely lead to issues.
I think a better solution would be to incorporate them some sort of pan-Benelux union, or simply keep the current country borders in tact.
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 04:47:58 No. 519754
Fuck the EU btw
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 11:19:22 No. 520250
>>519692 I see, thanks for the explanation
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 11:24:39 No. 520256
>>519728 I vote for giving back all that shitty pseudo-nations to the sea
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 11:43:40 No. 520270
>>519390 Belarus is the only socialist country in Europe.
3rd lowest inequality on earth
Majority of economy is state owned
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 13:20:29 No. 520418
>>519726 Is this book good or is it imperialist fed shit?
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 15:09:13 No. 520580
>>519396 >US victory over nazi germany watch this burger faggot ->
https://youtu.be/ctp5a21Mtvs ich spreche aber doch Deutsch
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 15:11:17 No. 520583
>>520418 No clue but that description at least to me seems to hype up Lukashenko. Like to me this would sound flattering, but that's probably due to my personal perspective, I can see how that same description would paint him as an evil man for many people.
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 18:22:39 No. 531103
>>531100 >bordiga >high iq
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 18:28:20 No. 531117
>>531103 are you that afraid of leftcoms?
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 18:29:08 No. 531118
>>531092 its pretty comfy gorgeous nature and not many immigrants are allowed in
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 18:31:45 No. 531122
>>531100 Based
>>531103 Remind us again what happened to the Soviet Union please
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 18:38:12 No. 531135
>>531122 Got illegaly dissolved, which shows that stalin did nothing wrong when purging non communists from the party.
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 18:38:39 No. 531137
>>531133 t.part of the 99%.
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 19:19:59 No. 531224
>>531118 but I just read switzerland is the european country with the highest amount of resident aliens
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 19:25:16 No. 531232
>>531135 >Dissolved Thanks for proving my point
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 19:31:22 No. 531246
>>531232 For nothing fella,still did more to comunism cause than leftcomunism will ever achieve :).
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 19:42:56 No. 531274
>>531252 That is how it is when you play the political game, if you win you win, if you lose you lose, now it's better to pick ourselves again than mop at or academias and our autofellating types of comunism while doing nothing, principally now that the conjucture of the world is changing from the US monopoly, like, it does matter what you think about china, but they taking the place of the US in the world economy would be helpful to future socialist contries.
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 19:46:32 No. 531284
>>531274 Hey man you do you, I am just saying that M-L failed because you can't fight imperialism with socialism, socialism must happen in the imperial core and if revolution happens outside of it the main goal must be to create a revolution inside of it, not build socialism (or state capitalism) in one country and wait until shit hits the fan.
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 19:48:36 No. 531290
>>531252 wtf is this image saying
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 20:05:56 No. 531328
>>531284 well you can stop imperialist actions in your coutry and even others through the secret police apparatus, Cuba showed this a thousand times, but is impossible to stop it in the entire world when the main world order can, through the monopolization of it''s global media and currency, embargo, murder or dissolve any country without repercution like they did with the ussr or libya, and the imperial core going socialist could end it forever, but they are the main beneficiaries of imperialism, thus the hardest to making it go red, but with the increasing fallings of the US and rise of China the entire liberal world order is going into chaos, if only a big country like russia, india or brazil would go red or the ussr still existed and had a plan to export revolutions like cuba did in the past, this global turmoil would be the time to spread.
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 20:08:21 No. 531332
>>531224 Immigrants = Non-whites
Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 10:57:55 No. 532409
>>532402
Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 16:09:39 No. 532807
>>532407 Refocus socdemism into it's roots of believing socialism is possible through liberal democracy.
Introduce them to the young Marx and focus on the readings that make no distinction between the young and the elder Marx.
Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 16:46:16 No. 532857
>>532407 >>532807 Also, bring back dirigisme, it's something social democrats should be promoting above more taxes and more welfare.
Anonymous 2021-10-07 (Thu) 18:23:46 No. 537203
Polish Constitutional Tribunal just ruled out that their constitution overrides important parts of Eu treaties.
Anonymous 2021-10-07 (Thu) 18:51:21 No. 537247
The UK is good. I spent some time in London recently and was overwhelmed by how international and diverse the city was. Monolithic white or reactionary vote blocs seem like an impossibility in all major British cities I’ve visited. Plus awesome food. You can come from anywhere in the world and feel at home in London.
Anonymous 2021-10-07 (Thu) 19:29:07 No. 537316
>>537203 I hope this causes a chimp out that leads to polish reactionaries fracturing the EU.
Anonymous 2021-10-07 (Thu) 19:34:57 No. 537328
>>537316 >poland fucks up the cohesion of the EU like they did with the Warsaw Pact. Now that would be funny
Anonymous 2021-10-07 (Thu) 19:46:54 No. 537356
>>537316 EU high spheres are livid about this, but idk if they have the possibility to expel Poland.
Anonymous 2021-10-07 (Thu) 22:09:13 No. 537498
>>537356 >implying they would even want to why the fuck are you people forgetting that the east is german colony?
Anonymous 2021-10-07 (Thu) 22:32:27 No. 537544
>>537498 This is true.
But this time the Polish verdict is too strong to be left unpunished.
If the other 26 states start having similar verdicts being emitted is game over for the EU as a viable entity.
So while there's concrete interest in letting Poland be this time there's also interesti in punishing them.
Anonymous 2021-10-07 (Thu) 22:53:17 No. 537568
>>537316 Same. If the Poles actually cause a chimp out, Hungary will follow, and Eurosceptic movements all over the EU will gain momentum once again (starting obviously with France). The 2015-2017 right-populist wave has failed to break the EU apart, but it created some deep cracks in its unity, cracks that will only deepen if the Poles do their thing and cause a new chimpout.
Anonymous 2021-10-07 (Thu) 23:04:55 No. 537583
>>537356 Currently, they don't want to expel them, and Poland is too afraid of getting backlash from its population if it tries to leave. Therefore, the polish strategy is annoying the EU so much that they kick them out. The EU doesn't want to do this, because then they'd lose their precious cheap labor, plus, the poles would be able to play victim and spark a new anti-EU chimpout.
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 08:58:40 No. 538166
>>537498 That's an anglo meme really. Anglo imperialists don't like the €, they don't like the EU, they don't like France and they don't like Germany as their whole geostrategic doctrine is literally about mitigating and suppressing political & economic power - be it fascist, crypto-fascist/neoliberal, feudal, neoliberal or socialist - within continental Europe since centuries in order to prevent any potential rivals from challenging their own
hegemonial ambitions on world stage. Today the Eastern Euros form sort of a strong (reactionary) faction themselves and have blocked Germany+France+BeNeLux+Italy numerous times. Poland-Lithuania have own imperialist ambitions towards the east too and Eastern Europe is despite the victim play of the local bourgeoisie (of course supported by anglo media) it's own economic sphere, the German and French bourgeoisie are just players among others (local and foreign) there.
>>537583 >because then they'd lose their precious cheap labor, I doubt anything would change in that regard, unfortunately. Remember Poland et al. only joined the EU in 2004, yet Polish and other eastern euro workers moved all over Europe for cheap labour long before that and western european capitalists outsourced production for cheap to Eastern Europe already during the 1990s. If Poland would exit the EU economic relations within Europe would probably simply revert back to 1990-2004 status. So the reason why there's such reluctance in Brussels to kick Poland out are likely not economic concerns.
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 10:33:33 No. 538191
>>519467 >Imagine having 50% union density despite this, and not the cucked government-mediator scandi type >Imagine having a healthy balance between a superior culinary culture and affordability for the masses >Imagine having some of the most well-preserved medieval city centres in Europe >Imagine surviving for 200 years without any sort of civil war or domestic violent conflict despite the fact that every terminally online political "expert" predicts your country splitting in about 2 weeks >Imagine the fact that speaking 4 languages is considered slightly above the norm, not completely extraordinary, opening many cultural doors around the world and enabling you to truly get to know different cultures instead of communicating exclusively with the bourgeois English-speaking elite >Imagine living in the greatest country in the world Yea I'm kinda butthurt, but feelsgoodman :) België !!!
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 11:21:42 No. 538199
>>537356 Hungary was supposed to be expelled too and nothing happened.
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 11:24:56 No. 538202
>>538166 You haven't named a single source for your claims.
>muh anglo meme Please
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 11:59:36 No. 538228
>>538202 >You haven't named a single source for your claims. Neither did you.
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 12:12:34 No. 538249
>>538228 I haven't made a claim in contrast to you who did
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 12:46:40 No. 538277
>>538249 Write something more than
>please add links to bourgeois anglo media else your're wrong or at least provide what made you specifically butthurt and why.
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 14:28:07 No. 538361
>>538166 >anglo meme >half of the parliament in on german payroll Okay then.
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 15:16:11 No. 538408
>>538277 >or at least provide what made you specifically butthurt and why You're claim that eastern europe is actually a leveled playing field where different entities compete. Like I get the fact that anglos are seething over "muh 4th reich", but from an economic perspective, eastern europe is in the grip of german imperialism. The fact that poland and the baltics have adopted burger autism won't change that
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 16:51:10 No. 538536
>>538191 > speaking 4 languages english, obviously
french and dutch, the 2 national languages
what's the fourth, german?
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 17:15:39 No. 538571
https://apnews.com/article/business-berlin-europe-germany-sexual-abuse-d3b5319ab21dd3c3342333c993fdec2c How long till these people will start plotting coups and shit?
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 21:03:25 No. 538976
>>538536 Yeah, any of German/Spanish/Italian/Arabic/Slavic wildcard/other diaspora language. 4 languages is the minority but it's not out of the ordinary. It's fun
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 22:42:35 No. 539159
Italiabros explain
<Far-right Brothers of Italy candidate is granddaughter of fascist dictator Benito Mussolini https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/06/rachele-mussolini-wins-most-votes-in-rome-city-council-election And it's not even the only Mussolina in politics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandra_Mussolini Wtf, like i know the Franco's in Spain have a foundation and what not as a platform for their interests, but at least they don't bother with office much less going that far. Sometimes it's a matter of respect, even if you do some fuckery from behind put literally anyone else at the forefront
Is there no public reaction or do people just don't give a shit?
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 23:50:18 No. 539238
By all metrics western Europe is stagnating, especially in the coming decades.
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 23:52:59 No. 539240
>>539159 She's been a politician for years and years.
I think she was in berlusconi's cabinet or something lmao.
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 23:54:32 No. 539243
>>539159 Fascism in Italy never got eradicated as it should have been.
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 23:55:31 No. 539244
>>539238 Shattering the EU and founding groups of socialist nations.
(I would cum for a Mediterranean socialist league with Italy Spain and Greece).
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 23:55:33 No. 539245
>>539238 about this can i ask something for comrades in europe ? is it true that the GDP of EU is pretty much stagnated for a time ?
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 23:56:30 No. 539248
>Catholic church gets caught being nonces #746. >TradCath's <"Y…Y…YEAH BUT BUT BUT MUH FUCKING MUDSLIMES MUHUMMAD AND FATIMAH BOTTOM TEXT."
Anonymous 2021-10-08 (Fri) 23:57:27 No. 539251
>>539245 It depends on the zones.
Italy and Greece never got back to pre-2011 GDP heights, Germany and Nordic countries had a stable but relatively low growth instead.
Eastern Europe (specifically Poland and Romania) grew relatively fast instead (easy to do it when everyone is outsourcing shit to your workers, crushing wages everywhere in the process).
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 00:02:38 No. 539263
>>539251 ok, and the situation of the comunist parties in these coutries are positive ?, cuz with the stagnation, the slowing of resource drain from africa because france was one of the main enforces of that shit, the EU will suffer economicaly, the perfect time for the Parties to act.
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 00:10:53 No. 539276
>>539263 All of them are dead,or with 20 boomers,or they support the succdems.
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 00:12:33 No. 539281
>>539263 There's no communist party in Europe.
KKE and KPO in Austria are the only worth of note and have huge problems as of now (mostly of being directed by boomers).
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 00:13:13 No. 539282
>People thought that the EU was gonna be ded within 5 years in 2008-9 <"…" >This is it, the Greek debt Crisis has shown the EU's true face, its sure to collapse now <"…" >2015-6 >"DA EU LETTING IN DA RAPEFUGEES MEANS DAT DA EU IS FINISHED!!!11!!!" <"…" >Anytime any country has an election. >"IF *X* PARTY WINS THEN THE EU IS FINISHED!!1!!!" <"…" >"BRITAIN LEAVING WILL START A DOMINO EFFECT!!! THE EU IS DONE BY 2020 VOOT LE-PEN AND AFD!!!1!!!!!" <"…"
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 00:28:58 No. 539303
One anon is so pure his eyes doesn not even "see" the European communist parties
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 00:31:24 No. 539305
>>539303 >Another thinks the EU is indestructible, >casually admits that neo-fascism is a surging political force. Where did i say either of those things lmao?
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 00:32:31 No. 539306
>>539276 >>539281 well, if that is true then, it kinda of opens the way to fascists get there first with help of the porkies.
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 07:11:08 No. 539559
>>538361 Poland? Definitely not. They're firmly stuck up in the arse of the USA and UK and they literally hate Germany with all of their heart. Anti-german sentiment is very strong in Polish politics and media.
So which Eastern Euro parliament is supposedly half on Berlin's payroll? Who exactly gets payed and who pays? That would be quite interesting. Why do Visegrad politicians block German proposals in Brussels and piss off Germany, France, Benelux et al. whenever they get a chance to do so? How come Nordström I & II faced such strong opposition despite Eastern Europe being essentially just a German colony, as you claim?
>>538408 >but from an economic perspective, eastern europe is in the grip of german imperialism. It's under the grip of German imperialism, under the grip of Anglo imperialism, under the grip of Swedish imperialism and so on, but most importantly it's under the grip of local oligarchs who sell assets and workforce for cheap to foreign capitalists and are often times even worse exploiters, reactionaries, neoliberals and capitalists than western euro porkies. I know it's very tempting to blame western porkies for each and everything, however despite West German capitalists absolutely dominate politics and economy in East German states since 1990 i can't blame them for our local shitlibs, conservaturds and far-rightoids making sure that wages are still lower here by a margin of 30% than in any western state, that east german workers work longer for less money than west german workers, that unionisation is much lower and so on and so forth. That is mostly the fault of "our" own greedy porkies and spineless, opportunist politicians as well as dumb people voting for neolib/rightoid parties.
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 08:36:14 No. 539595
>>539559 Polish parliament is split 50:50 german-american payroll. PO/KO (Donald Tusk, the former president of European Council) party is in alliance with liberal leftist coalition, both of them indirectly take money from the german interest groups (via EU grants or various fundations).
>anti-german sentiment is very strong in polish media >TVN defending EU and Germany on a daily basis >media outright say that the constitutional tribunal ruling that the polish constitution is supreme to the european union law is treason I admit that the current government is pro-American, but also has been in secret talks with China, most likely to leverage USA though. Nordstream opposition is irrelevant, its just for domestic consumption, especially since Burgers have blessed the project anyway. Visegrad as a unified political entity doesn't even exist. Czech interests are vastly different than those of Poland, especially if we take the recent chimp out in polish-czech relations, where Czechs are siding with Germany to shut down polish coal mines. UK is completely irrelevant to polish politics, nobody cares about them.
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 09:08:22 No. 539604
>>539595 The PO party meeting that happened like two months ago and was shown in TVN for its entire duration was sponosred by CDU (Konrad Adenauer Foundation). PO is the most vile, neoliberal party that is in this country. During their political event one of their politicans said that we have "too many hospitals here, about 1000, we should close maybe 600-700 of them". Pre-2015 PO era was an era where economic austerity almost killed this country. Schools, hospitals and workplaces were being shut down left and right. Children from smaller towns and villages couldn't often reach schools at all, because of no bus infrastructure reaching their places of living. People living on the verge of absolute poverty, some even living in the SEWERS of Warsaw, because they couldn't afford housing nor heating (they heated themselves by sleeping next to the sewer heat pipes). Don't believe that the current government of Poland is in charge, because of some imaginary anti-German nationalist hysteria. It's our only choice, to be fair. It's either the neoliberal machine or social democracy with polish characteristics that we currently have. I'm not a massive fan of the current government (PiS), but I have to admit that they are the only political force in Poland that was able to break the neoliberal dogma and introduce SOME sort of welfare at least. They also broke the "fuck you, got mine" attitude that ruled polish politics since the fall of the Warsaw Pact. It's certainly a party of the local bourgeoise, that just drops some scraps for the proles, but I have seen (and heard about) enough poverty in this country to turn away from a chance to collectively attain better life conditions. Overall, I think this is an accelerationist choice, because the neoliberals and the so-called "left-wing" parties have shown their true colours where the voted against PiS bill to introduce progressive taxation (it was more of a reversal of a degressive taxation, but thats beside the point). I only wish they had less retarded attitude towards Belarus and Ukraine, but you can't have everything, I guess. Anyway, we are on the crossroads right now. Either PiS opens the door to an actual socialist movement manifesting itself, by making people realize that social policy is possible and even desirable or we slip back into the neoliberal hell that we have been in for so long.
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 09:19:06 No. 539609
>>539604 And speaking of Konrad Adenauer Foundation, they have opened their first institution here in 1989 to "aid in the process of political, economic and social transformation" and they have been closely working with polish christian-democratic parties, where Donald Tusk was starting his political career. KLD (Liberal-Democratic Congress) received a loan of a million marks in the 90s from the Konrad Adenauer Foundation. The political event of PO "Poland - campus of the future" was lead by Rafał Trzaskowski, who was leading the PO until Tusk has returned from Brussels. He met with german ambassador, Konrad Adenauer Foundation representatives and leader of the Junge Union before the event. Rafał Trzaskowski is a mayor of Warsaw and during his rule he signed a deal with Commerzbank for 100mln PLN. Michał Gramatyka said in polish public TV that he prefers to be sponsored by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation rather than by the Polish National Foundation (foundation of the polish State Treasury). What's even more interesting is that all the parties that are vocally supporting the European Union are calling for abolishment of the Polish National Foundation.
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 09:21:53 No. 539610
>>539559 To sum it up, what is being shown in foreign media about Poland is a very calculated image that is crafted to produce an outrage and put pressure on the polish society to restore the neoliberal clique back to power. It's surprising that I have to say this on leftypol, but don't believe everything that media says. Follow the money, not the words, keep to the marxist materialist analysis.
Anonymous 2021-10-10 (Sun) 05:11:54 No. 540699
>>540692 They and the SocDens got punished for. supporting Babis.
Anonymous 2021-10-10 (Sun) 06:53:17 No. 540739
>>540692 >>540699 The biggest fuck up after Dubcek
Anonymous 2021-10-10 (Sun) 14:57:45 No. 540992
>>540758 What causes them to cuck out all the time? Why did they all cuck out at roughly the same time?
Anonymous 2021-10-10 (Sun) 16:55:06 No. 541083
>>540992 Opportunism
lust for power
you name it.
Anonymous 2021-10-10 (Sun) 17:32:04 No. 541112
>>540699 They were already losing seats before in 2017 though.
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 17:23:27 No. 545701
>>537568 kek it would definetly be pretty funny if it happened
i want to move to ireland though >>539604 >PO is the most vile, neoliberal party that is in this country. During their political event one of their politicans said that we have "too many hospitals here, about 1000, we should close maybe 600-700 of them". Pre-2015 PO era was an era where economic austerity almost killed this country. Schools, hospitals and workplaces were being shut down left and right. Children from smaller towns and villages couldn't often reach schools at all, because of no bus infrastructure reaching their places of living. People living on the verge of absolute poverty, some even living in the SEWERS of Warsaw, because they couldn't afford housing nor heating (they heated themselves by sleeping next to the sewer heat pipes). Don't believe that the current government of Poland is in charge, because of some imaginary anti-German nationalist hysteria. It's our only choice, to be fair. It's either the neoliberal machine or social democracy with polish characteristics that we currently have. this, people often neglect to mention how incredibly horrible PO was when criticizing PiS. even with the massive media push against the ruling party they aren't winning because most proles remember what the libs hiding behind progressive aesthetics are truly like
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 13:47:34 No. 549357
>>549330 >they going more moderate. That never goes well.
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 14:06:11 No. 549369
>>549357 Right now it seems like more of an aesthetic change.
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 19:04:59 No. 549674
German anons, is it true that the new german govt (SPD + Greens + Liberals) are about to legalize cannabis?
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 19:20:25 No. 549696
>>549674 yes, it's being discussed and it seems that there's a majority for legalizing it
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 19:33:31 No. 549720
>>549696 This is interesting, not merely for petty recreational reasons, but even moreso for the ripple-effects this would have throughout the legal-systems of the entirety of Europe (that don't already have lax laws in regards to soft drugs like weed). Imagining the added pressure of the black market export of weed that would result from a German legalization (being a core EU economy, located in the center of the continent) I think it would overwhelm surrounding countries and making it more economically beneficial for them to change laws to accompany this change rather than to practically hyper-militarize borders. There also seems to be a generational dimension of weed usage, with it being very popular among the three younger generations vs the older that are rapidly dying off due to our embarrassing healthcare systems.
Dare I say…
A 4…'20s EU? Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 06:39:06 No. 550713
>>549674 Yes, extremely likely. Greens and FDP are for it with the SPD stalling for years but this week the SPD shadow health minister reversed course publicly.
The debate will probably center around whether they will do it in pharmacies or dedicated shops.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 10:18:31 No. 550883
>>541083 Underwhelming answer. Also it doesn't address my second question at all.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 10:28:19 No. 550889
>>550885 >banning bows and crossbows How ?
You can make a very deadly bow and arrow out of sticks and string.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 10:35:33 No. 550894
>>550889 br*ts have banned kitchen knives and consider long pencils a dangerous weapon
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 10:35:36 No. 550895
>>550889 Doesn't matter. If you get caught making, owning and training with a bow, which will become ever more likely as the survaillance state expands, you will get the same punishment like for illegally owning firearms: jail.
Also Jörg Sprave's repeating bows and crossbows are the best. I hope that Norwegian schizo didn't use one of those, since the amount of people he murdered is shocking. He either was very skilled or used one of Sprave's designed repeating bows.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 10:40:21 No. 550898
>>550889 Just wait until they ban petrol, alcohol and rags.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 10:42:18 No. 550899
>>550898 >Ban alcohol Based
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 10:43:38 No. 550901
>>550899 Not until you realize its effectiveness against riot police.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 10:48:06 No. 550905
>>546105 Is this another far right terrorism?
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 10:51:01 No. 550906
>>550905 Wouldn't be surprised if so, but we don't know for sure yet.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 11:08:23 No. 550915
>>550905 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58906165 >Police said they had previously been in contact with him over fears of radicalisation after he converted to Islam. Oh for fuck's sake!
>The victims were all aged between 50 and 70, LOL boomers BTFO again.
>The suspect had a Danish mother and Norwegian father At least not a non-Euro migrant at least.
>Norwegian police are not usually armed and after the attack the police directorate ordered all officers nationwide to carry firearms as an extra precaution. LOL one off-duty cop was injured and all other cops are instantly spooked.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 11:18:18 No. 550920
>>550901 It really isn't, you daft lifestylist.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 14:45:55 No. 551156
>>550895 >He either was very skilled or used one of Sprave's designed repeating bows. Skilled archers can shoot 2 arrows within 1s, depending on the bow model, without using one of Jörg's loaders. Also if they'd actually plan to ban crossbows and archery "concerned" bullshit speak would be all over the media right now, but there's absolutely nothing, the incident is already out of the news. I think there's no reason to worry, for the time being at least.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 14:46:43 No. 551160
>>550894 >br*ts have banned kitchen knives and consider long pencils a dangerous weapon UK people get arrested for carrying a pencil ? What about children who go to school ? This sounds too insane to be true.
>>550895 if there is a legal equivalency for bow and guns, people will chose guns over bows, it's a law that would induce an upgrade in fire power. More surveillance and more repression just means more stealthy weapons and professionalization. The only people who get fucked by this are people who do this as a hobby, who would never abuse it because they don't want their hobby to get shunned. Many girls that are very plain looking get into bows and arrows because its a way for them to be more interesting. The people like the slingshot channel guy despite his distinctive bravado are the people who try to push bows from killing to playing and then to sporting. Look what he actually does, he is trying to get people to shoot at foam-boards. He is taking a very primitive and primal form of aggression, the piercing impulse which originated with single cell organisms, and turns it into a cultural ritual that safely discharges it into padding.
Apparently he also had other weapons. He killed 5 people compared to the 70 of the mass shooting that happened a few years previously in Norway by somebody who used guns. While 5 dead people is still 5 too many, you can't say this was shockingly effective, by mass murder killing spree standards. What ever convinced this guy to use primitive weapons instead of firearms, probably lowered the number of casualties. I would seriously consider looking into promoting ineffective meme weapons as a measure to reduce the lethality of such happenings.
>>550898 >Just wait until they ban petrol, alcohol and rags. lumpen-grenades kinda suck.
Anonymous 2021-10-18 (Mon) 09:38:37 No. 553219
French presidentials are already depressing me
Anonymous 2021-10-18 (Mon) 10:40:21 No. 553285
>>553232 >The 24-year-old was said to have told a female police officer that he had the pencil so he could “stab someone if I need to.” if that's true
omg why ?
Anonymous 2021-10-19 (Tue) 08:24:44 No. 554720
>>554719 sounds pretty based, but how do you explain the protests then?
Anonymous 2021-10-19 (Tue) 08:36:11 No. 554724
>>554720 the belarus economy has gone down the drain in terms of gdp growth rate and thus people are angry. ALso the western powers are involved in their usual regime change stick
Anonymous 2021-10-19 (Tue) 10:39:07 No. 554814
>>554719 >everyone characterizing his government as "right wing" has no idea wtf they're talking about or are glowies trying to slander him Whoever says that, probably thinks "right wing" means "authoritarian".
Anonymous 2021-10-19 (Tue) 11:53:13 No. 554920
Anonymous 2021-10-19 (Tue) 15:33:59 No. 555106
>>551160 you do understand that their is a limit on how many people can be surveilled before the quality of said surveillance takes a nosedive, their are not enough people to come through all the data that is collected in modern surveillance systems, which is why they keep failing at stopping terrorist attacks.
>>554719 >state owned enterprises without a central plan so its just running on inertia
Anonymous 2021-10-19 (Tue) 15:42:45 No. 555115
>>554939 True and sad. But I take solace in the fact that he'll certainly go to prison like Sarkozy if he end up president.
Anonymous 2021-10-19 (Tue) 17:15:04 No. 555174
>>554814 >Whoever says that, probably thinks "right wing" means "authoritarian". that is correct though
Anonymous 2021-10-23 (Sat) 02:43:05 No. 560978
I've been reading a lot about Western European countries, their history, culture, etc. and I must ask this, what is it about French that makes them so fucking based? It seems to have the only vocal dissidents in that entire region.
Anonymous 2021-10-25 (Mon) 09:39:01 No. 564972
>>560978 national monarchy vs german imperial universalism, rex imperator in regno suo
Anonymous 2021-10-25 (Mon) 09:50:39 No. 564977
>>556778 are there any migrants between the french chads or all migrants in France either libshits or religious extremists?
Anonymous 2021-10-27 (Wed) 13:25:55 No. 569278
>>555115 I just hopes he dies.
Anonymous 2021-10-27 (Wed) 13:41:12 No. 569298
>>564977 Migrants are just normies who want a better life, they can't vote, they don't make waves because they don't want to loose their visas. Those who do political shit are generally undocumented, they tend to be very based. The religious terrorists mostly come from Belgium or more rarely are french since like 2 or 3 generations, indoctrinated by wahhabite faggots who made their turf in the ghettos with saudi money.
Anonymous 2021-10-27 (Wed) 18:06:27 No. 569628
>>569298 This ^
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Anonymous 2021-10-29 (Fri) 14:44:39 No. 572497
Seems tension is flaring up again in Ukraine.
Anonymous 2021-10-29 (Fri) 14:58:57 No. 572502
>>572497 Listen if world war three starts because of some spat between Russians and cuckaianians I think humanity deserves to go extinct.
Anonymous 2021-11-12 (Fri) 12:19:19 No. 595096
Why is the Euro proletariat resistant to any kind of class consciousness?>inb4 muh LGBTQ idpol
Anonymous 2021-11-12 (Fri) 19:21:49 No. 595442
>Latvia bans unvaccinated lawmakers from meetings https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-denmark-europe-latvia-health-41e9aef453e30154024ab7d551f1d23a 10% of legislators in Latvia excluded from the political process.
Anonymous 2021-11-12 (Fri) 19:54:14 No. 595495
>>540699 >>540692 >Can someone in the know explain how the Czech Communist party get annihilated in the elections that just happened? KSČM is in deep crisis probably since they were created. And it's kinda their own fault. they can't propagate themselves, they can't agitate people, hell even their sites and FB page is shit.
They were just relying on people's discontent with neoliberalism (which actually helped in 2013 - practically the only time they were able to gain in popularity) and totally didn't expect the new emerging (right) populist movements like ANO 2011 or SPD (not the german socdems, but the czech nationalist party led by literal japanese)
there are of course many other problems but this is the most obvious one
t. czech
Anonymous 2021-11-12 (Fri) 20:22:36 No. 595512
>>595495 >the czech nationalist party led by literal japanese Pffft what?! Nationalists are always the biggest sellouts to foreign capital if not outright traitors according to their own standards.
LMAO every time!
Anonymous 2021-11-12 (Fri) 20:31:17 No. 595519
>>538191 almost want to go now tbh
Anonymous 2021-11-12 (Fri) 20:42:57 No. 595527
>>595521 kek is it just me or is he forcing his eyes open? do czechs really
Anonymous 2021-11-12 (Fri) 20:53:09 No. 595537
>>595521 they tried to make him look more white
Anonymous 2021-11-12 (Fri) 21:06:57 No. 595555
>>549330 Is this because Melenchon loves pandering to muslims?
Anonymous 2021-11-12 (Fri) 21:28:11 No. 595571
>>595527 >>595537 on the other hand his mother is czech, afaik
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 02:35:49 No. 595896
>>595571 >His mom’s Czech >Czechoid nationalists supporting the spawn of a foreigner with a czech woman “Cuck” was always projection.
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 06:57:34 No. 596046
>>595521 so he's the czech fujimori?
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 07:04:58 No. 596055
Como esta España? Al veces me quiero pelar de los Estados Unidos, pero se parace como España tiene un chingo de problems con desempleo. Como esta la politica? Tienen muchos fachos?
>>595096 as a Bhürger from what little I've seen it seems like the migrant crisis completely fucked your shit, maybe I'm wrong but from what I can tell most of Europe was relatively homogenous beforehand so most countries there have never had to grapple with racism the same way we have had to in the US
Enjoy everyone having false consciousness to an even higher degree than we do in the USA, I guess. The USA is integrated enough these days that some people realize racism is a scam so my suggestion: download and run whitegenocide.exe
better get busy makin beautiful mixed babies
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 07:06:35 No. 596056
>>595521 I fucking hate self hating hapas like allsup and this motherfucker.
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 07:26:17 No. 596067
>>596055 Do you think these people wanna be there, man? In some foreign country with people who condescend to them and either are artificially nice at best or outright hostile at worst? Many of these countries make it impossible for those migrants to have a life in the places they’ve grown up in, make them leave everything and everyone they knew to go live with foreigners and work shit jobs. The only immigrants who like leaving are labor aristocrats and even then, they’re still gonna get a relatively worse deal compared to the native worker.
France and England, amongst other countries has had Gastarbeiters and immigrants for generation and they still despise them, although they’re learning to to keep it on the down low. Le “make cute mixed babies shit” isn’t a solution, because you’ll get self-hating hapas and, shocker, mixed people can look like any one of the historically defined races. Look at latinos, where the same mother and father can produce a “white” son and a “black” son and have them categorized as different races.
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 07:29:16 No. 596070
>>596067 >Look at latinos, where the same mother and father can produce a “white” son and a “black” son and have them categorized as different races. Yeah, I was being facetious because I was feeling feisty. I'm "Latino" too so I know that that shit doesn't work…..from the outside looking in it really does seem like the migrant crisis threw fire on the whole thing, when I watch videos from like European sources or whatever on Youtube the comments are usually filled with people talking about "rapefugees" or whatever
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 07:44:47 No. 596079
>>596070 These people are probably nowhere near said “rapefugees” and even if they were are the equivalent of suburbanoid american whitoids who view them as the people who either take their welfare money or are there to pick their fruit or do their shit work.
I’m not saying race or nationalism is a perpetual part of human history or stay away from white women, since that would make me a hypocrite, but as a fellow brown burger, I’d tell you that you can’t abolish normative concepts of race without abolishing capitalism. At the best you’ll get social chauvinists doing woke imperialism while acting with performative civility to show how progressive they are while liquidating foreigners for their treatment of minorities and women.
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 13:00:46 No. 596211
>>596197 nooo but i thought antifascism was for heckin libs
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 18:01:54 No. 596335
>>596211 it is, antifacsim is for people who think that neoliberalism is the best possible system, and moving away from it is bad
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 19:40:43 No. 596437
>>596055 >but from what I can tell most of Europe was relatively homogenous beforehand so most countries there have never had to grapple with racism the same way we have had to in the US Where are you getting this 100% incorrect interpretation? Is this what burger media projects or did you get it from explicitly far right sources?
Anonymous 2021-11-14 (Sun) 07:07:57 No. 597235
>>596437 to be honest I'm a tard, this is just the impression I've gotten from when I used to browse 4chan
also my friends from Europe (all normies) I met from vidya always said that over there there isn't really "diversity" the same way there is over here, but they're all from Nordic countries
Anonymous 2021-11-14 (Sun) 07:26:14 No. 597247
>>597235 There is a shit ton of diversify in europe and has been as long as either of us have been alive. This narrative is a fantasy completely my friend.
I'm sorry but it sounds so silly; could you imagine me telling you USA was a homogenous place before BLM came and shited it up by putting blacks in the city suburbs?
Anonymous 2021-11-18 (Thu) 01:15:50 No. 603087
>>595521 Hearts of Iron IV: Red Flood but real (and Czech)
Anonymous 2021-11-18 (Thu) 01:17:58 No. 603091
>>539159 100 years Fascism free and the snake crawls back.
That's Neoliberalism during an economic crisis!
Anonymous 2021-11-18 (Thu) 01:19:20 No. 603096
>>532407 There needs to be agitprop by Die Linke that shows that the SPD, CDU, and AfD don't benefit the working class, and instead give bread in the case of the SPD, and circuses, as done by the AfD
Anonymous 2021-11-18 (Thu) 20:32:27 No. 604327
>The Fraudo-"Marxist" is a Die Linke enthusiast
Anonymous 2021-11-18 (Thu) 20:35:56 No. 604331
>>604327 the PdL is an important organisation of the German left
you don't have to be a "Die Linke enthusiast" to make such a statement
Anonymous 2021-11-18 (Thu) 20:43:25 No. 604340
>>604331 Pointless wasting your time and energy giving genuine advice for the anti-communist "left". Direct that elsewhere in these times of crisis and restructuring.
Anonymous 2021-11-18 (Thu) 20:58:10 No. 604366
>>604340 >the anti-communist "left" they aren't anti-communist though
Communists are part of the PdL for example within the KPF (Communist Platform) which has ties to the DKP (they send delegates to each others assemblies and so on)
the PdL also provides with the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation a lot of important Infrastructure for example they are the Publisher of the Marx-Engels-Werke.
Anonymous 2021-11-18 (Thu) 21:10:39 No. 604394
>>604366 They are "communist" "Marxists" who oppose core concepts and foundational premises of Marx and the communist movement. You should pay less attention to names of orgs and more to what they do.
>Rosa Luxemburg, in comparison to Lenin, had no effect on the world. It's telling when that's the figure they
claim to base themselves around (and even that's a stretch, they're little more than eurocoms
at best - going by the life and writing of Luxemburg she would have wanted nothing to do with Die Linke).
Anonymous 2021-11-18 (Thu) 21:22:34 No. 604416
>>604394 literally nothing in your post states a contradiction to my positon.
Anonymous 2021-11-18 (Thu) 21:38:02 No. 604436
>>604416 They are anti-actual communists. They are reformists. They are anti-Leninist eurocoms. Don't shill for these people is what I'm saying when you have actual communist parties in your country.
Anonymous 2021-11-18 (Thu) 21:52:01 No. 604456
>>604436 >Don't shill for these people I don't. Infact, like all communists, I'm a vocal critic of the PdL but this doesn't make them less important as an Institution for the left.
the reality of political organising is way more nuanced than
>oh there not real socialists screw them Anonymous 2021-11-19 (Fri) 14:49:13 No. 605392
There needs to be agitprop by MLPD that shows that Die Linke, the SPD, CDU, and AfD don't benefit the working class, and instead give bread in the case of the Die Linke, and circuses, as done by the AfD
Anonymous 2021-11-19 (Fri) 20:04:00 No. 606306
so is belarus the best place to live in eastern europe? i'm considering emigrating there as a pole
Anonymous 2021-11-20 (Sat) 17:33:58 No. 608544
>>606306 You could migrate to the fucking Chad basin and you'd live better as a pole
Anonymous 2021-11-21 (Sun) 15:30:14 No. 609989
>>604322 Call the based department.
Anonymous 2021-11-21 (Sun) 16:11:20 No. 610046
>>519384 UN is warning about new bosnian war between local Serbians and Bosnians. Any yugobro have information?
Anonymous 2021-11-25 (Thu) 14:32:41 No. 616696
>>612271 >>616695 These people are doing real class struggle and nobody here seems to care. All power to them!
الموت لأمريكا Anonymous 2021-11-25 (Thu) 14:39:59 No. 616699
>>616696 >european labour revolt don't care
I NEED TO CUSOOOOOOM THIS
Anonymous 2021-11-26 (Fri) 13:48:07 No. 617990
https://twitter.com/descifraguerra/status/1464196016492757038 It seems Porky on Porky violence is rising in Ukraine.
Anonymous 2021-11-26 (Fri) 13:52:31 No. 617991
>>617990 Damn, will we see a second Yanukovych and a Euromaidan 2.0? Also who would execute the coup, the army I'm assuming right? Are they not loyal to Zelensky?
Anonymous 2021-11-26 (Fri) 13:56:06 No. 617995
>>617991 Idk anon, this whole thing seems to me as a settling of scores between porkies mafia_style with Russia mentioned only to get glowies attention.
Anonymous 2021-12-04 (Sat) 13:02:02 No. 629749
>>596335 Found the /pol/er
Anonymous 2021-12-04 (Sat) 15:40:28 No. 629963
>>519382 All the countries got normal names then fucking ГЯЭИСН ЯЭРЦБLIC
Anonymous 2021-12-04 (Sat) 16:53:02 No. 630094
>>629949 here's an interesting list
Prosecuted high-ranking Communist Party of Czechoslovakia officials https://www.idnes.cz/zpravy/domaci/ustavni-soud-kscm-strougal-vajnar-hranice-stihani-obeti-totalita.A211203_101540_domaci_ihal >In 1990, the court sentenced Miroslav Štěpán, the former head of the Communist Party in Prague, to 2,5 years in prison. They found him guilty of abusing the authority of a public official during an anti-regime demonstration in October 1988. At that time, Štěpán ordered the use of water cannons and grenades with tear gas against the demonstrators. After serving half his sentence, Štěpán was released on parole. He died in March 2014. >František Kincl, the former Minister of the Interior , was sentenced to three years in prison in 1992 due to the illegal detention of citizens before November 1989 >Former counterintelligence chief Karel Vykypěl and Alojz Lorenc, the last head of the StB (State Security), were also sentenced to 3.5 and four years in prison. Lorenc escaped imprisonment in the Czech Republic due to his Slovak citizenship. Slovak courts later sentenced him to a suspended sentence for the same act. >The courts also dealt with the role of the high communists around August 1968. The only former high-ranking Communist Party official who was convicted of the occupation of Czechoslovakia was Karel Hoffmann, who in August 1968 as director of the Central Communications Administration ordered radio transmitters to be turned off during the Warsaw Pact invasion. In June 2003, he was sentenced to four years in prison for abusing the authority of a public official. In October of the same year, the High Court reclassified his actions as sabotage and extended his sentence by two years (a 1990 amnesty reduced his sentence to four years). Hoffmann spent less than a month in prison, and was released after 25 days due to deteriorating health. He died in February 2013. >Former Federal Minister of the Interior, Jaromír Obzina, was put on trial in 2001 for taking part in the operation "Asanace" aimed at bullying dissidents in the 1970s. According to the indictment, he ordered the members of the StB to force signatories of Charta 77 to apply for emigration from Czechoslovakia. Obzina died in January 2003, and his four co-defendants, former senior Interior Ministry officials, were sentenced to suspended sentences. >Years ago, a case concerning the armament of the former People's Militia (Lidové milice) was stopped. The case involved Štrougal and Hoffman and also Jakeš and Lenárt. The accusations also concerned other celebrities from before November 1989 - former Deputy Prime Minister Josef Korčák and former Minister of Defense Milan Václavík. The accusations also concerned other prominents from before November 1989 - former Deputy Prime Minister Josef Korčák and former Minister of Defense Milan Václavík. Václavík was pardoned in 1996 due to his health condition. Anonymous 2021-12-05 (Sun) 17:44:31 No. 631360
>>631350 >NEET FEET Also learn to use a search engine.
Anonymous 2021-12-07 (Tue) 20:17:53 No. 635056
>>635042 He's a racist debatebro journalist without party, probably agitating for Bolloré. Nothingburger.
Anonymous 2021-12-08 (Wed) 09:25:10 No. 635813
>>635183 Portugal is currently richer than Italy? Sauce?
Anonymous 2021-12-08 (Wed) 09:40:09 No. 635817
>>635813 It's comparing their GDP in 2008 versus now, not to each other
Anonymous 2021-12-10 (Fri) 17:18:48 No. 639975
https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1469305679773147136 It seems Russia closed 70% of the Azov sea to navigation. This happened other times iirc so it shouldn't be big news but with the climate of tension the Us are trying to raise in the zone one never knows.
Anonymous 2021-12-10 (Fri) 19:46:30 No. 640180
>>639975 Mmmmmh seems here in the next few years the EU/NATO will need to fight for "living space". Thier is a growing tension between russian imperial needs and that of the EUNATO beast. Imagine western europe no longer at the whim of Russia's energy threats but in control of russia itself. I fear their may not be a 2 front war this time. We may see a split up russia like german once was. All speculation but tension is surely rising.
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 23:20:08 No. 641616
>>641602 rightoid overtakes rightoid and ties with another rightoid, looks like big rightoid is in trouble
Fucking frogs I swear
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 00:45:04 No. 641726
"Without him, there would be nothing." Shocking conversation of former dissident Michnik and Jaruzelski revealed https://dorzeczy.pl/opinie/237577/szokujaca-rozmowa-michnika-z-jaruzelskim-ujawniona.html https://newsbeezer.com/polandeng/tvp-publishes-recordings-of-michnik-with-jaruzelski/ Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 22:13:57 No. 642904
>>641602 are they just going to keep doing this ad infinitum? hype up a far right threat against an unpopular incumbent, then pull an unknown out of a hat to rally the country is exactly what gave JVPITER his start
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 09:55:49 No. 643570
GERMANY WON'T CERTIFY NORTH STREAM 2 FOR OPERATION New German government made its move, and it's an
AGGRESSIVE one.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RT_com/status/1470152866682015744 The drums of war just sound 5% louder now.
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 10:14:47 No. 643581
>>605392 >a party with 5% of the vote is the bread part of the bread and circus This ultra cynicism and purism puts people off more than convinces them.
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 11:55:05 No. 643636
>>643577 The "green" in greens is military camouflage
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 19:00:15 No. 644094
>>643570 Why are they doing this? Aren't the willfully losing money by doing something like this?
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 19:03:59 No. 644096
>>643570 European countries have been preparing for gas shortages. Now we can see why. So a cold winter is coming and gas prices will be impossible to pay. Nice. I guess I'll be grilling indoors with chopped wood all winter and die of CO poisoning.
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 21:52:47 No. 644282
>>629766 More details please. What happened?
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 21:56:00 No. 644286
>>644096 You filthy Krauts had it coming. That's what you get for being the biggest classcucks in Western Europe.
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 22:09:07 No. 644305
>>616696 I simply didn't know about it. Bourgeois media blackout as usual. It looks based AF. Actual class struggle in Western Europe. Didn't think I'd to live to see it.
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 22:23:33 No. 644336
>>644094 Hard to say. I would always air on the side of 'The Americans made the decision and the krauts are left having to make an post facto justification for it. though with these kinds of things.
Oil prices have gone up 11% in europe today because of this BTW.
<https://www.ft.com/content/15a057f2-7647-496d-bcc6-6c4bcb836db6 Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 23:06:26 No. 644397
>>617990 >Porky on Porky violence is rising in Ukraine Based.
>>627156 >Gypsies stealing diesel from US base BASED.
>>612271 20,000 Metal workers in Spain going on strike and fighting cops in the streets
GIGA BASED Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 09:18:56 No. 645009
>>644397 East & South will rise
Meanwhile what are west and nord cucks doing? complaining over some vaccine shit?
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 09:23:50 No. 645011
>>644336 I locked in gas prices for the next year or two. I hope my political awareness paid off because I was banking on nordstream 2 going to shit and NATO fucking EU proles.
How would the government of Germany react if people started protesting in favor of Nordstream 2? When shit gets cold and expensive, people will be pissed.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 09:32:19 No. 645017
>>643570 >>643577 >>644336 I'd take some pro-China Orban or industrialist Merkel 100% over these absolute retards jesus fucking christ
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 10:03:24 No. 645032
>>644336 no surprise really, even without the geopolitical angle the greens aren't even a semi left party; it's only natural they prefer the most antagonistic, reaction-encouraging solutions to climate change
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 10:39:58 No. 645043
>>645011 My gas provider went bankrupt just now, because of high gas prices made them lose too much on fixed contracts. Now I'm forced to take a variable price plan just when prices are exploding. And of course any deposits they owed will go to pay institutional creditors in staid of being returned.
Loving all the benefits the liberalised energy market is sending my way. Imagine the horror of having just one state owned provider that never goes bankrupt. Thank you Europe!
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 22:42:18 No. 645945
>>645037 why is flanders so cringe
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 22:44:24 No. 645948
>>645043 >My gas provider went bankrupt just now, because of high gas prices made them lose too much on fixed contracts. Now I'm forced to take a variable price plan just when prices are exploding. And of course any deposits they owed will go to pay institutional creditors in staid of being returned. Thanks you for rejecting Russian gas Europe from America. You may be cold no but you are helping the NATO agenda by suffering in the cold. You may die but at least NATO benefits.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 00:36:59 No. 646124
>>645017 >Merkel >Industrialist this retard refused to invest in infrastructure because of
>muh balanced budget memes. Unless being "industrialist" means throwing money at corporations with no restrictions in which case by that new definition every neoliberal in existence is now developmentalist apparently
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 02:24:15 No. 646251
>>646124 lol that just tells you how neoliberal europe is when someone's calling her an industrialist
the tallest midget and so forth
LaRouche Thread 2021-12-15 (Wed) 13:29:33 No. 646621
>>643570 Absolute fucking cucks. Why can't you sour krauts regain your sovereignty?
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 15:18:10 No. 646700
>>646621 Anything resembling calling for sovereignty in Germany will get you raised eyebrows at best and being called a Nazi at worst.
You have to walk a very fine line if you want to avoid being attacked even by fellow "leftists".
The "far left" party in germany got basically completely excluded from any coalitions with other "left wing" parties due to them not wanting to fully and uncritically commit to NATO.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 16:09:13 No. 646760
>>646747 They're 100% correct just not for the reason they think
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 16:13:32 No. 646769
>>646760 What reason would that be?
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 02:04:56 No. 647595
>>646769 GERMany controls the 4th Reich (EU) and must be destroyed in order to save the suffering proles of the South.
t. greek patriot
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 02:18:03 No. 647612
>>647595 so this is /leftypol/ theory? impressive
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 02:33:01 No. 647628
>>646700 > bomber harris do it again I don't understand this. If they hate their country and people so much why don't they pack up and move to another EU country?
>>643570 This is going to blow up so hard in the face of Germany.
>>644096 No. Gas is being actively banned in the building of new homes. Climate policy is driving up the house pricing with an added side effect of also making building new houses and apartments more difficult in terms of rules that the structure would need to comply with.
My government (NL) has been talking about additional taxes for people using wood to heat their homes.
>>644336 It's stupid they mention the Ukraine situation. As if Germany currently has the military capabilities to prevent escalation of the situation (only USA has).
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 02:41:06 No. 647641
>>629766 >Best state the country has ever been in now that the guy who has been ruling for the last 12 years can't form a government I wish. Inflation is wrecking the country hard, and our statistics don't include house price increases in inflation statistics. Making it financially impossible for people working for money (lol even if you earn like 60k euro / year you still can't borrow enough to buy a ghetto apartment without a big down payment) to buy housing unless they already have housing is a very bad idea.
>>644282 Absolutely nothing and the guy ruling for the last 12 years has just formed a coalition. Details of what they're going to do are unknown but it is the exact same coalition as last time. Seems like they're going to be even more liberal than before and include more climate memes and more transfer of power from Netherlands to EU. Only thing I've heard so far is that healthcare workers still do not get a salary bump for which they've been pleading for years. Coalition says thank you for dealing with the pandemic btw! Now here's the below median salary as a nurse for a job that is very high stress + requires a bachelor degree. You've got to be insane to continue working in healthcare as a non specialist in this country. Also they lack the power to form meaningful protests, because if they protest they will have patients die.
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 02:42:14 No. 647643
>>647635 I hate this video, I'm not even german but it's frustrating to just cut Ravel's Bolero in the first place. Fuck the dude who made it. I hate g*rmans because they invaded the commune but this meme is worse than the gutters spilling the blood of our comrades after the versailoids took Paris.
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 02:56:10 No. 647668
>>647652 Seems like a swell set up. From what currents those guys come from?
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 02:58:36 No. 647670
>>647668 I don't know, but I'm highly interested in it. I wonder, how they actually compare to DIE LINKE. Considering that DIE LINKE is almost dead (they barely got into the parliament in the last election), this looks promising.
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 03:05:06 No. 647679
>>647670 I'm listening to it and from what I father from the first girl they're quite a way left from DL. Maybe they were some current in it.
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 03:10:13 No. 647684
>>647679 (me)
Gather* Anyway I'll talk about it in the french political groups I'm in, they'll probably have some idea or connection. This whole theatrics seems weird and suspicious to me but I love hope you know.
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 10:23:57 No. 647965
>>595096 As much as I dislike agreeing with the /pol/acks in here, there is a bit of truth in what they are saying:
The migrant crisis has poisoned european politics for decades to come. Something about the chaos of it and the brutal confrontation with the realities of the imperialism and the third world right there at home made many euros lose their fucking minds.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 07:54:49 No. 649205
>>647965 >As much as I dislike agreeing with the /pol/acks in here, there is a bit of truth in what they are saying Then you are just as brainwormed and brainwashed by their hysteria propaganda.
Surely we have a thread on this dopic to deworm your brain with. I do not have the nerve to do it myself right now. I've done it plenty of times and am pretty tired of it.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 09:04:41 No. 649236
>>649205 Are you illiterate? His point was not about whether they are right for thinking as they do, merely about the effect it had on politics in Europe. Are you going to deny that easily observable fact?
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 09:49:03 No. 649277
Food, fuel, and gas prises are shooting up.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 11:28:32 No. 649318
>>649236 euros turning to reaction doesnt "prove /pol/ right," because /pol/ believes the reactionary turn is the result of unchangeable genetic, natural, or spiritual law. We can also easily explain the reactionary turn, without "/pol/" being right - lacking an ideological framework in which these migrants can be included into the "in group" of the average euro (for example, a framework where national boundaries meant less than relation to the means of production), the euros have only one way to digest this political event - as a foreign threat that needs to be combatted. It's not proving /pol/ right, it's proving that the left has been defeated geopolitically; if we weren't, the "migrant problem" could be easily metabolized the same way people understand moving from post-industrial towns in search of PMC jobs in the cities - meaning, not as a threat posed by a foreign other, but as the natural result of an unequal distribution of wealth, and a shift in capital's preferred deployment of our labor power.
In short, event X can't ever prove reactionaries were right, because they rely on magical thinking to explain phenomena the left is perfectly capable of understanding. The only reason it seems otherwise is because truth is established through political/economic power - and currently, both are controlled, more or less without contest, by more or less reactionary forces.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 11:31:08 No. 649319
>>595096 Neo liberalism aims for 6% unemployment, that creates an insane level of labor competition.
The left doesn't say anything that signals release from this pressure.
Immigration is seen as increasing labor competition even more, hence the xenophobic right gains politically.
The idpol language of the left is communicating that worker interest are at best secondary, at worst it communicates support for big corporate interests because they have the same idpol language.
it's not too hard to understand why the working class doesn't look towards the left.
You're trash-talking of the masses makes you sound like an aristocrat complaining about how unsophisticated the plebs are, that they need you to lord over them.
the ruling classes in Europe will never try 20th century style fascism ever again, Hitler, Mussolini and company were the biggest loosers in all of history, and a revival of European militarism might cause Russia to remember how to soviet.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 11:36:30 No. 649321
>>649319 >Neo liberalism aims for 6% unemployment That's nothing. See Italy, Greece and Spain.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 12:08:05 No. 649328
>>649321 in brazil it already surpased 12%
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 12:37:33 No. 649345
>>649321 >>649328 wow their macro economic efficiency must be dogshit
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 13:09:28 No. 649361
>>649319 >The idpol language of the left is communicating that worker interest are at best secondary, at worst it communicates support for big corporate interests because they have the same idpol language. That's libs and radlibs. We actually advocate for better conditions for the workers. However, whenever we do, people become scared, because "that's spooky scary gomunism, therefore bad", and are programmed to resist even the slightest idea to fight capital, even if this is still far from actual commuism by any stretch of the imagination.
>inb4 muh proles are the reactionary class >You're trash-talking of the masses makes you sound like an aristocrat complaining about how unsophisticated the plebs are, that they need you to lord over them. Well, almost all Euro proles are reactionary scum though. They are cucked by capital to no end and even defend said capital with ridiculous fanatism.
I can't be an aristocrat, because I'm a low-wage prole myself. I'm just a class conscious worker surrounded by bootlickers. It's extremely frustrating.
Strong idealism on your part. 20th century only failed spectacularly, because of the USSR, which we do not have this time to save us. No, the current consensus in Europe is that the USSR was supposedly just as bad and responsible for WW2 as Nazi Germany. Absolutely unthankful scum those Eurocracker scumbags are! Meanwhile, the bourgeois states do nothing to combat the rise of nazism at best or outright support it, while they crack down on anti-fascists at worst. Just look Cuckraine.
>a revival of European militarism might cause Russia to remember how to soviet. Again idealism, Russia is ever more becoming a worse shithole thanks to the Church's degeneracy, with declining industrial output. The more time goes on, the less capable they will be to resist NATO aggression. Soviet nostalgia seems to be all "Russia stronk" LARP. Nothingburger.
Communism is fucking dead in all of Europe. The fact that ever worsening contradictions of capitalism can't seem to revive it, is just more proof of it.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 13:20:25 No. 649370
>>649345 what macro economy ? post 70 liberal economy was always austerity, privatize public servicest to enrich the rich and pray for the god of free market to give us big gdp.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 13:42:21 No. 649385
>>649370 Italy had one of the biggest public conglomerate of the world, all gone after the wave of privatizations in the '90s
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 14:02:58 No. 649393
>>649361 >the workers are programed >proles are reactionary scum though. >workers are unthankful scum Socialism is when you insult the workers, and the more insulting you are the more socialister it is
opinion discarded.
It's not idealist, if the big bourgeoisie in Europe goes full fascist and tries to attack Russia for a 3rd time, it's going to be a repeat of WW2 except that this time Russia already has an industrial base and advanced military fabrication. The defeat will come faster and harder. Soviet economic planning has a lot of parallels to war-time-economy, it's not far fetched that if Russia is forced to do war-time economy again, that a neo-soviet economy will com out of this. A lot of the economic structures of the Soviet Union were the result of the necessities that arose during war time and were continued by societal inertia.
A Fascist economy is an extreme version of state subsidized military production, that is payed for by imperial loot. Europe has no significant energy reserves that would allow it to project significant military power outside of Europe, therefore fascism would be an even more idiotic move than it was last time.
>>649370 >what macro economy ? macro economic efficiency is based on how effectively the labor force is deployed, having a high an un-employment rate lowers macro economic efficiency
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 14:41:30 No. 649425
>>649393 >Socialism is when you insult the workers, and the more insulting you are the more socialister it is socialism is when you close your eyes to reality and live in fantasy and the more you pretend the socialister it is
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 14:46:25 No. 649433
>>649319 >The idpol language of the left is communicating that worker interest are at best secondary, at worst it communicates support for big corporate interests because they have the same idpol language. Post is good but this part is wrong; assuming it's true that "idpol" is strange and alienating to the entire/a majority of the working class (not necessarily the case but w/e), they find this stuff strange and alienating because it's unclear how it's relevant to their struggles. Bourj ideology around race and nation is admittedly rotting away, but it's still the only frame of reference most people have, and so it's up to a strong, competent left movement to 1) meet the needs of these "reactionary proles," and 2) explain how racial/gender issue X is a part of their struggle. This doesn't happen not because the proletariat is "naturally" repelled or alienated by "idpol," but instead, put simply, because the socialist movement is nowhere near competent or powerful enough to outcompete the wall-to-wall reactionary propaganda and the near-total triumph of capital.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 14:59:48 No. 649449
>>647612 This is the actual truth for every Southern European anon.
(Also yeah there's a wealth of texts on that but they're mostly in Italian and Spanish).
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 14:59:51 No. 649450
>>649319 >The idpol language of the left is communicating that worker interest are at best secondary, at worst it communicates support for big corporate interests because they have the same idpol language. This is hard to deny. Conversely, corporations will never take up the language if class struggle - it is not the case that everything is coopted by capitalism, as the cope from idpolyps goes; only that which is compatible with capitalism is coopted.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 15:04:05 No. 649458
>>649319 <6% unemployment So so naive.
More like 50% youth unemployment in Southern Italy most of Greece and parts of Spain and 20% unemployment overall.
>>649345 <Macroeconomic efficiency Anon unemployment is the most efficient thing there is for Porky. Read Kalecki's article on full employment.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 15:25:01 No. 649481
>Polish soldier deserted to join Belarusian army https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1471768789217943552 Yeah i'm saying based. Fuck Poland and all the other cucks of the butthurt belt.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 15:38:34 No. 649510
Not strictly Europe, but <Istanbul Stock exchange hitting circuit breaker
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 15:41:05 No. 649518
>>649425 >I'm better than the workers no
>>649433 >"idpol" is strange and alienating to the majority of the working class, they find this stuff strange and alienating because it's unclear how it's relevant to their struggles. No the majority of workers sees idpol as a struggle for status in the social hierarchy, it's about whose opinions have to be taken seriously and whose opinions can be discarded. Who belongs to the protected in-group and who is shunned into the out-group. It has almost nothing to do with sex.
I think that racial issues have to be dissolved in to concrete material issues, because races in them self have no material reality. And you can't base socialist politics on idealism. Racism is a bad behavior, it's discriminatory rules in society, it's all kinds of other things, but it is not a biological reality. I know how to frame concrete material politics that reduce racism, but I' getting sabotaged by reactionary people who cloak their "race realism" as a fight against racism.
I can't prove that gender identities are real, i have no evidence, other than subjective testimony. The only people who write theory about this are lawyers. I need objective scientific data and falsifiable theories. Get brain scientists or whatever to write theory. Otherwise the basis is a civic religion, and you are asking me to expend effort on behalf of somebody else's "clerical power." If I buy into this, as is now, i risk becoming your "sacrificial zealot". I have nothing to work with here, and it's too far outside of my aera of expertise to fix it. My hunch about this is that there are big categorical mistakes, like people who want to modify their appearance don't belong in the same group as people who want to modify their body, one is modification of the exterior and the other is modification of the interior. Take this with a grain of salt.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 18:41:01 No. 649780
>>649518 >no i am, actually. not much but enough.
how many times does this dream of workers rising up have to fail before you realize it will not happen. they don't rise until they're face to face with death. naked death. then you save them and 50 years later they sell you out for coca cola in tin cans and levi's jeans.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 22:32:36 No. 650077
>>649481 Not all Poolish, huh. He did the right thing. Every Poolish soldier, who doesn't do the same, is a pathetic bootlicking coward and enemy of the working class.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 23:09:59 No. 650113
>>649518 >I think that racial issues have to be dissolved in to concrete material issues, yes, explain how race connects to the proletarian struggle (ie. a way to separate the working class and enable hyper exploitation of the subordinate race). Then, your movement has connected antiracism with the general proletarian struggle, and now a white sorker can view racial issue X as a part of his struggle, too. Same goes for gender (a way to divide workers from one another, devalue certain fields of labor, and create artificial barriers between people which can be legislated through bourgeois notions of morality).
By reducing race to material issues you're not ignoring race, you're explaining it in the most concrete terms possible. It's when anti-idpolers try and pretend its an irrelevant fight that they go astray (and that, btw, is a common pattern amongst the left, and needs to be taken into account and combatted)
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 23:12:03 No. 650116
>>649481 >Hates migrants >Becomes migrant 1000% retard.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 23:19:06 No. 650118
So what the fuck is happening with this Covid fifth wave or what the shit? Western Europe had dropped the ball hard enough, then all of a sudden while the rest of the world are at the ending stages of the pandemic, westernoids are hitting its worse stage yet?
>>595521 The absolute state of
Evropa Yoroppa!
>>595896 YELLOWED.com
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 23:19:18 No. 650119
>>650116 Now, who says this Polak hated migrants in particular considering he’s joining the people who were helping them into Germany
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 23:19:54 No. 650120
>>650118 Most go after indians. Or that might just be russians.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 23:31:09 No. 650131
>>549330 Ah yes, moving rightwards to compete wwith the right, a winning strategy if there ever was one.
In any case, this and
>>641616 aren't isolated incidents. I maintain that global or at least Western Porky has been deliberately engaging in mass-scale media manipulation that makes the most hyperbolic Pravda joke look tame. Between Trump's victory and the apparent start of the decaying stage of capitalism, the bougeois class consciousness has peaked, and their tactic right now is to manipulate culture to shift the Overton window rightwards and reduce the left to insignificance akin but not as extreme as the Burger political landscape. Their recipe is relatively simple: present increasingly radical reactoid shit and black the left out of the media save for concerted smear campaigns. The foremost examples are Corbyn ratfucking and the decapitation morbid circus in France. In the first case, it has succeeded to the point that people seem resigned that a prime-minister who nobody likes (not even the fucking prime-minister himself) is an unfortunate fact of life against which there's no point fighting. It's interesting to note that a non-concerted attack on the left – or on anything else really – might yield negative results, because it's not strong enough to smear them while raising awareness of their existence.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 23:58:28 No. 650153
Why is nobody talking about the possible energy shortage in Europe.
Anonymous 2021-12-18 (Sat) 00:03:28 No. 650158
>>650153 what good will talking do? we will take it on the chin and that will be that. germs doomed us (as they typically do) by putting the green maniacs in charge of foreign policy, we will never have enough gas now
Anonymous 2021-12-18 (Sat) 01:09:35 No. 650198
>>650158 >>650153 I want to save Europe. What can I do?
Anonymous 2021-12-18 (Sat) 01:26:01 No. 650210
Eurobros, is it worth to go to EU for a STEM grad degree or is the grass not greener?
Anonymous 2021-12-18 (Sat) 04:54:08 No. 650413
>>650407 >In concentration camps, preferably. Under watch by American guards. How would that work? Any euro could out pace the average sprinting american with a fast walk.
>>650210 It's worth it.
Anonymous 2021-12-18 (Sat) 09:27:27 No. 650846
>>650210 I did exactly this and have no regrets so far. Euro lifestyle > burger lifestyle, I'm in my mid 30s but in the best shape of my life all cause of the walkability of their cities and the more reasonable portions
Anonymous 2021-12-18 (Sat) 09:54:03 No. 650874
>>649585 God I hope he does
Anonymous 2021-12-18 (Sat) 10:28:00 No. 650910
>>650153 >Why is nobody talking about the possible energy shortage in Europe. Look at who owns the media, genius. Hint: It's Porky.
When the issue becomes bad enough, that it can't be ignored, said media will blame the climate movement for it, further alienate the Europroles from it and fueling climate denial reaction. The COVID-deniers' brainrot already perfectly primed them for anti-science hysteria. A new dark age will be upon us.
>>650158 >Calling Krauts "germs" Aww, that's a good one. KEK I'll memorise this one.
>we will never have enough gas now We will have a hot war to heat us soon though.
>>650198 >I want to save Europe. What can I do? There is no point. Euro crackers deserve all suffering, they'll get, because they believed, licking Porky's boot hard enough, would ensure them prosperity.
I hope as many of them freeze and starve to death this winter. Good riddance! My empathy for them has been exhausted by their constant hysteria against socialist thought.
>>650210 >Eurobros, is it worth to go to EU for a STEM grad degree or is the grass not greener? At this point, even Burgerland has more revolutionary potential than Europe. You are more useful to stay where you are now.
>>650431 >Doesn't realise that most Burgers are just descendants from Germs and Anglo migrants. Typical Burgerbrain. Have a socialist revolution first and then I shall greet your invasion with open arms.
Anonymous 2021-12-22 (Wed) 01:06:40 No. 656218
>>656165 Poutou: People need 1800€ to live decently, retirement at 60, less work time…
Other dude: …and more paid vacations? 1000€ per month for the youth, students?
Poutou: Well you know studying is hard work and a lot of shareholder win that without even working. They jerk off and win a lot of money, like Drahi (the dude who own the TV channel he speaks on)
OD: It's scandalous billionaires with their work and investment…
Poutou: One doesn't get 12 billion with work not possible, Arnault (french porky) doens't have 150 billions because he works, not possible. They want to make us believe rich are rich because they're smart but they're rich because they steal
OD: Wealth is stolen? How can you say that?
Poutou: How do you think you can get 12 billions like this? One can almost reasonably live with one million but this kind of wealth comes from the pillage of collective wealth. Very rich people exist because very poor people exist.
OD: But business, innovation, investment exist! And job creation..
Poutou: Poverty exists because some people profit from others, it's not inevitable, it's because we have a system which does that
Anyway Poutou is trotskyist and I don't like him but he's right.
Anonymous 2021-12-22 (Wed) 01:11:12 No. 656224
>>656218 >Anyway Poutou is trotskyist and I don't like him but he's right. With the current dumpsterfire even a trotskyist is a welcome refreshment
Anonymous 2021-12-22 (Wed) 01:31:01 No. 656241
>>656224 You don't know the end of it. People don't like trotskyist on this website but in many countries like in France they are the dominant formal marxist leninist force. The problem is the NPA (Poutou party) exploded because it's been too long his faction (which is the most moderate) controls the party, and the third time he goes for the election while the more radical youngsters want to be more revolutionary, anti imperialist and intersectionnal. So a crew I ran with some time ago, the Courant Communiste Revolutionnaire, who controls Revolution Permanente and infiltrated numerous unions, split with the NPA and tries to gather enough support to run for presidential elections with a dude named Anasse Kazib. And now they fight against each other endlessly. All this to go on TV and debate other candidates. It's fucking stupid, wasted energy.
Anonymous 2021-12-22 (Wed) 01:35:36 No. 656246
>>645037 Isn't there an actual non-boo club M-L communist party in Belgium that has like most of its support in the Wallonia region (not that its a regionalist party from what i know)
Anonymous 2021-12-22 (Wed) 01:55:49 No. 656268
>>656241 >>656265 Même les Français n’aiment pas la France
Anonymous 2021-12-22 (Wed) 02:03:13 No. 656274
>>656268 La France qu'on aime c'est celle de la révolution.
Believe me when I tell you saw many of my comrades who were disgusted by the mere sight of a french flag charge the cops side by side with legionary veterans holding the blue white red standard. France is fast moving concept.
Anonymous 2021-12-22 (Wed) 02:06:33 No. 656281
>>642761 From what other people from Poland have told me the biggest issue with Jaruzelski was that ultimately was just 'a soldier' and didn't really have that ideological commitment or knowledge for the most part in regards to Marxism or political economy.
He maintained the socialist system in poland because that was the PZPR (and to a lesser extent Brezhnev and the USSR) wanted him to do. But he never attempted to really 'fix' anything or unfuck any of its more glaring issues.
And due to his aforementioned non-ideological nature the second Gorbachev told him to 'give up' he just 'gave up'
Anonymous 2021-12-22 (Wed) 02:17:06 No. 656293
>>656265 I just want a big social movement during the election period, it would be just the perfect thing to put some shame on this whole charade and for me to get free stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhb7MzJDCQ0 Anonymous 2021-12-23 (Thu) 04:53:38 No. 657486
>>657176 the amount of pooland shills trying to claim it's all fake and he's not really polish or just lying for money is fucking hilarious lmao
their own military issued a missing person alert before he defected and gave the interview to Belarusian media
ALL GLORY TO LUKASHENKO 2021-12-23 (Thu) 04:55:02 No. 657487
>>657176 BASED BELARUS
LUKA SHOULD GET AS MANY POLISH DEFECTORS AS HE CAN AND THEN LAUNCH AN ASSAULT ON POLAND Anonymous 2021-12-23 (Thu) 11:34:40 No. 657680
>>657180 the kind of lunatic that acquires a citizenship in case a war breaks out so he can apply for the army
Anonymous 2021-12-23 (Thu) 14:13:13 No. 657769
>>657748 This has its history in the 80s, when the West helped stir up nationalism in socialist countries. These people are forever grateful to the West for granting them the freedom to translate all social problems into culture wars. Becoming a periphery shithole is just an unimportant byproduct, just put the flag over your eyes and blast the hymn.
Liberals are even worse tbh, they're cucks but without even the veneer of patriotism.
Anonymous 2021-12-23 (Thu) 20:01:41 No. 658046
>>657844 ah yes, the western anarchist appears whenever belarus is mentioned
Anonymous 2021-12-23 (Thu) 23:49:29 No. 658326
>>657886 >>658046 Lukashenko is redfash and quite literally idolizes Hitler.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 01:55:09 No. 658471
>>658326 literally lies made up by western media that you're stupid enough to believe but keep being a retard
>redfash oh you're not even real just a bot; that makes even more sense
sage sage 2021-12-24 (Fri) 02:05:24 No. 658481
>>658476 >Drops into thread >States talking point straight from Western media >Gets BTFO >Resorts to /v/ memes from fucking 4chan
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 02:52:53 No. 658521
>>658476 >Noooo my NGO's and europroxy parties
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 12:45:48 No. 658825
>>656241 I am shocked, shocked to find a split happening in this trotskyite organisation!
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 12:56:19 No. 658832
>>657176 >they killed two polish volunteers Wouldn't this come out relatively quickly?
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 13:48:10 No. 658875
>>658776 >Haha, and then i said 'SILENCE' and called them an anachist. Totally BTFO Okay. Go tell mommy and daddy about it after fucking off back to reddit. literal child.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 19:39:32 No. 659266
>>658832 No since Pooland is literally enforcing a media blackout/no go zone on their side of the border hence no one knows wtf is really going on there. All images and audiovisuals are from the Belarus side since Luka is the only one allowing media in.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 19:45:18 No. 663171
>>647635 >>647595 >EU disappears after combined effort of constant butthurt >US military bases still in your countries >politicians still full pro-US-bootlicking >US and domestic corporations still fucking you in the ass Hehe, those fricking GERMs amiright like the hecking cool memes told me!!
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 23:40:11 No. 663434
>>663171 Those who are most pro-EU are also those who are most pro-America and the same people as those who bow to American demands and join American campaigns of financial sanctions and their wars.
Keep coping Eurocuck. Existing the EU and regaining national sovereignty is a top priority for any socialist political group organizing in that region.
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 00:40:28 No. 663478
>>663434 the EU exists to be the national equivalent of a band of jackals that feast on countries weakened by the US.
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 01:43:25 No. 663539
>>663434 Yeah disbanding the EU and turning into a direct vassal of the US is gonna make those Brussel peeps real mad #ownage.
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 01:52:23 No. 663548
>>663537 fuck off neoliberal unlike you I don't masturbate to cutting pensions and wages to bail out euro bankers
>>663539 the EU IS the vassal of the US and their preferred format for dealing with them you moron.
the only objection the US really has to the EU is their lack of military spending and SURPRISE all the Brussel bureaucrats are now banging on about the need for increased funding in that area.
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 01:56:35 No. 663553
>>663548 >the only objection the US really has to the EU is their lack of military spending and SURPRISE all the Brussel bureaucrats are now banging on about the need for increased funding in that area. YOU WILL HELP THE USA NOT LOSE IN WW3 AGAINST CHINA!
YOU WILL TRANSITION TO PRIVATE INSURANCE!
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 01:57:07 No. 663554
>>663512 They hate us because we kicked their ass and told them to fuck off
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 11:39:49 No. 663905
>>657180 what in the bananers is that?
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 16:54:16 No. 664183
>>663905 the average p*lish cockroach. an incredible mixture of a bloodthirsty nationalist pig and a weak little cuck
t. p*le
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 17:28:25 No. 664206
>>663765 this guys seems knowledgeable, what are his political leanings ?
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 17:45:32 No. 664219
>>664206 Q-adjacent. Used to watch his videos in late Trump-era, but got tired of the "Trump is a secret genius" implications being poured into my ear. Tbh, not as bad as the other Greek co-host (they were a trio then), but still pretty bad. There was also this autistic conservative with them who was obsessed with clocks and watches, pretty comfy to watch in a petit bourg way.
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 18:12:50 No. 664240
>>664219 >Q-adjacent. What is that ?
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 18:22:14 No. 664251
>>664240 schizo rightoid burger
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 18:26:26 No. 664257
>>663512 >Do Spaniards HATE Mexicans/Latin Americans or is that a /pol/ meme? /pol/ meme.
They don't hate mexicans/Latin Americans, they just hate the ones that have darker skin (pretty much what Latin Americans think of other Latin Americans). Of course, this is just right-wingers, other people just don't give a fuck.
Also, Spain is off-brand Miami for gusanos, so there's no hate towards "latin-americans" in general since:
>Gusanos tend to be white. >Gusanos are anti-communists. >Latin-americans in Spain tend to either be brown skinned and impoverished, or gusanos. Look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrdS68DItCQ , Spain is off-brand Miami.
Btw, the biggest migrant population in Spain coming from Latin-America are Equadorians, since there was a BIG crisis in their country and started fleeding everywhere, including Spain (this is before Correa got into power mind you)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuadorians_in_Spain Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 20:34:44 No. 664390
>>663548 >>663553 If leaving or disbanding the EU is gonna change anything, then why does AUKUS exist?
You really think American subversion is just coming Brussels? You don't think that, right?
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 20:36:54 No. 664396
>>647635 Why don't you post the ebin memes where it's also crying about le hecking germ, destroyer of EVROPA, Marx?
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 22:45:24 No. 664625
>>664206 I'll give you an example: his commentary on Borič expressed sympathy for Pinochet's economy.
He seems okay when it comes to West-Russia geopolitics, I just don't buy whatever he sources from some "credible insiders". But what he mostly does is essentially "summarizing" a few articles in 1 hour that would take you 10 minutes to read on your own. And these are sometimes articles from sources that are not even necessarily representative of their government.
Anonymous 2021-12-28 (Tue) 22:50:45 No. 664634
To any Greek anons here, how different is the current Greek language from its older versions? If I wanted to just read Koine Greek, would learning regular Greek be enough to understand the former? Or are they significantly different from each other?
sage sage 2021-12-28 (Tue) 23:15:55 No. 664683
>>664390 AUKUS was literally just the US trying to get Australia to buy submarines in preparation for war with China wtf is the relevance of that to this discussion. If your argument is that it's an exclusive alliance led by Americans that the EU can stay out of, then you have to remember that most of NATO is not going to fight against China since their focus is on Russia; does that make NATO any less of an American puppet organization? You're so obsessed with symbols and rhetoric instead of actual policy but that's typical for eurocucks. Hilarious being told by britbongs that Boris will "sell the NHS to the Americans" when the EU is already busy privatizing the railway systems of its member states.
>>664458 Every euroskeptic left wing socialist organization also pledges to exit NATO in addition to the EU
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 23:05:36 No. 668494
Happy euro New year
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 23:09:52 No. 668498
>>664683 >Every euroskeptic left wing socialist organization also pledges to exit NATO in addition to the EU Which is a dead end, the only way EU countries which have worthwhile armed forces leave NATO is by forming a new European military alliance. This is why a lot of anti US imperialists historically supported the EU.
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 23:15:43 No. 668504
>>668494 Happy new year comrades.
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 23:44:34 No. 668556
>>668498 Exactly, leaving the EU means Britain will never be free of US domination, Europe could one day stand together if they get their shit together
Anonymous 2022-01-04 (Tue) 14:19:09 No. 673445
>>646700 >>646747 Wasn't Harris also a tarded Rhodesian nationalist?
Anonymous 2022-01-04 (Tue) 14:52:07 No. 673467
>>646700 "Comrade Stalin do it again" rhymes just as well, but it seems that these people prefer the moderate fascism of NATO over communism as the bulwark against the old fascism of the Axis powers.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 09:54:03 No. 683076
>>683069 Why should we support it? I genuinely ask.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 09:57:45 No. 683080
>>683069 Balkanization is a meme that only serves to devide and conquer. "Balkanizing America" is also a retarded meme that only exists because people can't imagine a socialist USA so they want it to be destroyed.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 09:59:09 No. 683082
>>683076 Effectively abolishes imperialism, deflates national chauvinism, robs the middle class of its political power
Although it could largely be trading one nationalism for another, it wouldn't be as bad as it is now
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:12:12 No. 683092
>>683082 If you think balkanizing European nations stops imperialism you need to read more European history. The EU exists for a reason.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:15:09 No. 683093
>>683092 If you look at fascist and conservative movements, they're p much always federalist/unionist, which ultimately serves to strengthen the center and its imperialism
the EU exists so the different nation states and their centers can reinforce each other
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:20:24 No. 683097
>>683080 Balkanizing the US would be a good thing if it leads to a weakened US imperialism. A balkanized US that is essentially identical to a non balkanized US is irrelevant.
Balkanizing the US is not a tangible project right now so its irrelevant. And you sound like a stupid patriot, but that's beside the point.
>>683076 I think we should support it because it brings politics down to a more local level. It's easier to rally the entire country to a single cause, etc. It also makes the national bourgeoisie go into conflict with the local bourgeoisie under certain circumstances, but they are rare.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:22:44 No. 683099
>>683069 I ask because in that map I see 50 million dead at least. But yeah it is a difficult topic. The European Question. We know Europe is funded by imperialism and genocide, and its fruits continue today to feed the Right. But is it the solution to connect socialist struggle with "separatism"? Maybe I'm naive but I think it will be a better strategy to capitalise on the next generation that seems to be less concerned about flags and nations. Didn't all "succesful" socialist revolutions resulted in unifications?
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:28:04 No. 683102
>>683097 Maybe you're just a fucking faggot ever thought about that? Just because I can see, unlike your blind retard ass, that balkanizing is.litterally done so the other powers and the bouegoiesie can more easily play countries against each other, doesn't make me a patriot.
Unironically kill yourself, cunt
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:31:48 No. 683105
>>683099 Yes, every socialist revolution ends in unification and not retarded nationalism. Thinking that smaller ethno nationalism is going to solve the problems of the proletariat is fucking retarded. Even worse, the people actively pushing seperatism constantly are other great powers like the USA and Russia.
The solution is not ethno nationalist separation wars, but a socialist Europe.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:32:32 No. 683106
>>683099 >Didn't all "succesful" socialist revolutions resulted in unifications? which ones? in the german revolution, there was a kind of "balkanization" into more local soviets and the like. socialist movements have always kind of had an affinity with marginalized regions and the like i think
>>683102 yeah bro just call someone a faggot and retard and cunt when accused of being a chauvinist. "stupid patriot" is right
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:34:33 No. 683108
>>683105 the solution is no more europe
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:36:50 No. 683112
>>683106 >>683108 Fuck you I won't stand here and be accused of "patriotism" because I don't want a European wide Balkan wars, you cancerous piece of shit. Europe is too devided as it is already, multinationals are constant playing us against each other to drive down wages and taxes, Amerika and Russia are constantly sowing division by funding seperatism.
Fucking kill yourself and get out of my continent. I don't want people like you here.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:38:57 No. 683114
>>683112 Cont
Balkanization is LITTERALLY nationalism. The solution is never more nationalism, more ethnic cleansing. The solution is to see that nationalism was the worst idea we ever dreamed up.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:39:00 No. 683115
>>683076 >Why should we support it? I genuinely ask. It's the only map with Rojava on it.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:39:34 No. 683118
>>683113 Houd je kankermuil jij gore nationalist
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:40:58 No. 683121
>>683118 you are literally a pan-european chauvinist. you are a worse threat to humanity than any separatist movement
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:42:59 No. 683124
>>683121 Shut the fuck up you nationalist piece of shit. Communists are internationalists. The solution isn't the destroy every fucking thing and turn the whole world into a capitalist holy Roman empire. The solution is to unite everyone and get rid of the entire idea of nationalism.
Kill yourself Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:45:11 No. 683127
>>683124 unlike you, i actually believe in communism and internationalism and am not using it to discuss the naked fact that i support an alliance of imperialistic nation-states and defending a fucking spook like "europe" with possessive pronouns
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:45:34 No. 683128
>>683127 >discuss disguise*
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:48:42 No. 683131
>>683092 I think the moment a socialist movement gains enough power in a state, all "separatism" is co-opted by the capitalists as a way to recruit an army willing to fight those godless nationless communists.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:50:36 No. 683135
>>683069 Fragmentation of a socialist federation into forced nation states isn't "balkanization", but europeanization, and you've got the direction of the process wrong, nation state is the end result not the original state.
In summary, europe is already europeanized. I wouldn't mind if it was yugoslavianized though.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:50:58 No. 683138
>>683127 Shut the fuck up you pretentious piece of shit. Europe is a polical reality, just like the czarist empire was, just like the Chinese empire was, and we should as communist not seek to focus on destroying the capitalists empire into smaller capitalist empires, but to conquere it for communism.
You and whatever party you belong to, if you ever belong to any, will never achieve anything because you will advocate for retarded nationalist seperatism over trying to build socialism. You're just as bad as Sakaii poisoned ameritards who think the most revolutionary thing there is is not to make America communist, but to turn America into a group of tiny seperate capitalist hellholes instead.
You're an anti revolutionary cunt who seeks only destruction because you don't believe in communism. You only see solution in this destruction, and refuse to put forward a positive change from the current state of being.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:54:23 No. 683140
>>683135 Fucking this. Europe has went through nationalist seperatist war after war after war genocide after genocide, to get to where we are. All the empires broken up into tiny countries. And guess what, it only leads to misery and didnt stop imperialism. It's time for this genocidal nationalist seperatist drivel to end and for a socialist federation to be born, to do away with the very concept of nation states altogether
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:55:45 No. 683141
>>683138 don't care didn't read plus you're dutch
>>683135 what socialist federation
>>683131 wow, very marxist sounding
anyways, back to the real world, it'd be nice if we smashed france and spain and belgium and the netherlands and italy and sweden into tiny pieces forever
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 10:57:52 No. 683143
>>683141 If I ever see you irl I will kick your teeth in
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 11:17:15 No. 683167
>>683163 Kill yourself kill youself kill yourself
You are litterally advocating for
ethno states and you call me a Nazi.
A fucking retarded Eurosceptic graffiti post won't change that, I hate Merkel and neoliberalism too.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 11:18:15 No. 683169
>>683150 Flanders needs to be annexed by the communist Walloon Chads
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 11:20:46 No. 683171
>>683069 This map is based because for once Devon isn't lazily stuffed into Cornwall
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 12:25:40 No. 683231
>>683216 what arguments? you shouting slurs and strawmanning me as some kind of ethno-nationalist, even though half of separatist movements have nothing to even do with ethnicity all while you shill for pan-europeanism?
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 13:25:53 No. 683281
>>683140 This. Imagine looking at the clusterfuck that is Europe now and thinking that we need more borders. First, eliminate all city states. And then Belgium.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 14:45:17 No. 683352
>>683231 > even though half of separatist movements uyghur you litterally posted up a map redrawing the entirety of europe along ethnic, even subethnic lines. There arent seperatist movements for 99% of the shit you posted.
Fuck off, nazi.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 15:58:47 No. 683443
>>683352 >Fuck off, nazi. lol, extremely ironic considering you share the exact same geopolitical vision as national socialism
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 22:22:21 No. 684033
>>683175 Don't even dare put Garibaldi close to bismark or some other royal cuck.
Garibaldi was the greatest revolutionary of the 19th century.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 22:24:03 No. 684035
>>683443 I dont thought you fucking nazi
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 22:33:32 No. 684056
>>519384 Why can’t the Balkans get along?
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 22:39:58 No. 684067
>>684033 >literally a general for some aristocrats >helped put down peasant's and worker's revolts in Sicily with his army on behalf of the landlords there >Italy continues to be built on the repression and imperial exploitation of workers from the south and sponsors counter-insurgent organized crime there he didn't make any social revolution, all he did was organize the existing contradictions of Italy under a single state that could continue perpetuating said contradictions, where the pre-existing states like the Bourbon Kingdom of the Two Sicilies couldn't, and brush them under the rug
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 22:40:02 No. 684069
>>684059 >Garibaldi is the reason Italy is a shitty country
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 22:43:50 No. 684075
>>684069 no, your precious "Europe" is
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 22:44:55 No. 684077
>>684075 "my" precious europe?
What the fuck are you talking about yuou drooling retard?
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 22:49:15 No. 684083
>>684077 i assume you're this guy
>>683112 >>683138 or are you just another inbred chauvinist
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 22:54:23 No. 684088
>>684083 i'm not him, and you'r a retard.
also
>inbred chauvinist Have you finished spewing random buzzword?
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 22:57:32 No. 684091
>>684088 your only reply to my post was "Kys"
you're a cancerous shitter that's probably mad that I'm exposing basic contradictions of European society that your lazy middle class European """leftism""" has been deliberately ignoring because you have a nationalist interest in the EU
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:00:37 No. 684095
Ignore trolls
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:01:48 No. 684097
>>684095 the proles are coming for your middle class bussy
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:05:14 No. 684099
>>684067 >I'm exposing basic contradictions of European society No, you'r not. Your critique of Garibaldi was that of an ignorant child, giving the fault of the failure of the italian state to Garibaldi is like to think Lenin is the reason Russia today is shit.
>middle class European """leftism""" whatever
>you have a nationalist interest in the EU Seems to me you are talking to people i your head. You don't know my political position and i don't know what you'r talking about.
If you feel like saying somethin coherent, go on, try to explain yourself in a way that is comprehensible to humans.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:05:59 No. 684102
>>684091 Meant to quote this other post
>>684099 Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:13:31 No. 684106
>>684099 my critique of Garibaldi is exactly that he was largely irrelevant and anti-revolutionary at best, and the unified Italian state only subsumed existing societal relations into its totality
also Lenin was responsible for Brest-Litovsk and GULAG and the NEP, so that wouldn't be too far off
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:15:20 No. 684107
What are we fighting about? Just logged in.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:16:04 No. 684110
>>684107 why not read the thread
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:20:45 No. 684119
>>684106 Oh ok, you are totally incapable of analizing history. Gonna give you a tip. You have to contestualize people and events. Also i suspect you know nothing about Garibaldi, except "he united italy".
Also i was more curious about the schizo rambling about how my love for Garibaldi is somehow related to "middle-class leftism" and my "national interest in the EU (which i never said i supported in any way)".
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:22:14 No. 684122
>>683138 >hazbot has logged on Balkanizing countries does not mean they are pitted against each other. And even if they do, that means the bourgeoise that RULES the now smaller nation states have less combined power, which is good for communists. I've never seen someone shill for Europe like this. And to call Europe a similar thing as China! This has Haz written all over it. Lmao.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:23:54 No. 684124
>>684119 no idea how your "love" for a dead royalist nationalist could be related to bourgeois political/social views
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:28:44 No. 684129
>>684122 > that means the bourgeoise that RULES the now smaller nation states have less combined power, which is good for communists Holy shit get a grip on reality.
ITS THE PROLETARIAT WHO IS DEVIDED, WHO RULES LESS. CAPITAL AND CAPITALISTS ARE INTERNATIONAL, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, WILL ALWAYS BE, AND WILL GET MORE INTERNATIONAL BY THE DAY. This can be seen clearly by the fact that multinational corps ALREADY pit european countries against each other to destroy social democracy.
I have no fucking clue what Haz thinks, I dont watch Ecelebs.
The bourgoies state is not the borders withing the bourgoiesie can rule, its the borders within which the proletariat can fight. As ancaps prove, the capitalists would love nothing more than for the entire world to be made up of micro states or no states at all.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:30:02 No. 684136
>>684122 they have less "combined" power but more local power, which makes it even less possible for communism to win because it will just get suffocated by the bunch of mini states it's surrounded with
man think about it
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:33:18 No. 684142
>>684124 >Garibaldi >royalist AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Also now you'r showing my all your utter ignorance, you fucktard.
Because not onyl you don't know shit about Garibaldi, you don't know shit about Italy too. You were so smug about your great "analysis" of Italy's contradiction, but your not aware of one of the basic facts of Italy's working movement history. That is that Garibaldi is and was a major inspiritation. Were the Garibaldi Brigades reactionaries too? And what about the Garibaldi Battalion?
You'r just an ignorant little prick.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 23:33:32 No. 684143
>>684129 you need to get a grip on reality
look at the entire history of 20th century eurocommunism
no one wants to fight for a party of an imperialistic bourgeois identity that's more foreign and hostile to them than any migrant
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 00:23:25 No. 684219
>>684136 >they have less "combined" power but more local power, Why would that be true?
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 00:24:22 No. 684221
>>684129 >Holy shit get a grip on reality. >ITS THE PROLETARIAT WHO IS DEVIDED, WHO RULES LESS. Why would they rule less? You seem to assume the proletariat holds power now. Why?
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 04:37:30 No. 686344
EU Parliament President dead!
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 05:04:11 No. 686361
>>686344 I feel bad, but literally who
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 05:11:28 No. 686370
No idea but they were probably part of the cabal.
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 05:43:19 No. 686399
>>684219 less combined because they're fractured and fight amongst themselves, more local becuse less local competition and they can hold the government in a tighter grip
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 13:52:32 No. 686761
Next date is 13 January for the education. I know having those unions is better than nothing but I really hate them for those low energy protests and 1 day strikes they even refuse to make happen at the same time for everyone.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:35:56 No. 687526
FORMER SPANISH POLICE COMMISSIONERS SAYS THAT NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY MASTERMINDED TERRORIST ATTACKS IN BARCELONA 2017 UNDER OATH, IN ORDER TO DAMPEN CATLAN SEPERATISM https://english.vilaweb.cat/noticies/villarejo-claims-that-spains-intel-was-involved-in-the-barcelona-terrorist-attack-of-2017/ This is fucking mental anons, literal false flagging admitted to in a court of law, this could be huge.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 22:15:28 No. 688751
>>687526 Isn't this considered to be normal in Spain? Like there was that time when generals in the army were threatining a coup (this supposedly a relatively common occurence). Or that other time when it came out that people in the secret service were secretly dosing the king with female hormones so that his sex drive stay low and make him less likely to get into scandalous affairs and that this same group was hushing up corruption scandals related to the People's Party by doing things like sneaking into the house of the person holding the dangerous information and upping his viagra dose by 10 times to cause him to have a heart attack.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 23:40:25 No. 688876
>>687526 A few years ago a Spanish newspaper claimed that the cell leader was a CNI asset. The cell leader died the night before the attacks in a house explosion, seemingly accidentally blowing himself up. The police found more than a hundred gas containers.
With this new information, my guess is that the other cell members didn’t know the cell leader was an asset of the CNI. In their minds they were doing what any other jihadist does, but in reality it was the bidding of the CNI. I’m guessing the idea was for the 100+ gas canisters to be used for a bombing campaign leading up to the Catalonian independence referendum. But the CNI “miscalculated” as the asset accidentally blew himself up, and the rest of the cell, unaware their leader was working for the CNI, did the next best thing in their minds as jihadi terrorists: a truck attack down La Rambla.
Anonymous 2022-01-13 (Thu) 14:24:43 No. 689670
>>683069 >why don't european leftists support the balkanization of its """nation states""" cause we are not retarded.
this balkanisation thing is something very specific to the material conditions of north american setteler colonialism.
Anonymous 2022-01-14 (Fri) 14:53:41 No. 690962
>>689673 Man, this is based.
>>689943 >>690066 >>689960 This from France? Why are tve cops attacking them?
Anonymous 2022-01-14 (Fri) 15:29:35 No. 690986
>>690962 >This from France? yes
>Why are tve cops attacking them? cause somebody gave them the order to do so
Anonymous 2022-01-14 (Fri) 16:07:21 No. 691021
>>690986 Is this a union protest or what?
Anonymous 2022-01-14 (Fri) 16:49:44 No. 691067
>>691021 no,unions follow popular movements to support them,they don't really throw protests by themselves nowaday (past 5 years).
Anonymous 2022-01-14 (Fri) 17:17:08 No. 691110
>>689943 2 and 3 are just autistic
Anonymous 2022-01-14 (Fri) 17:19:08 No. 691111
>>691067 Such tailism disappoints me
Anonymous 2022-01-14 (Fri) 17:28:13 No. 691130
>>691111 It's a fucking union, adjust your expectations. Vanguard parties on the other hand exist for a reason (it's just up to you to not associate with the cucked reformist/rightist ones), that's more what you're looking for in this case (and make no mistake about it, you should still associate with the union too, just don't expect them to storm the government house with arms when the inevitable proletarian revolutionary conditions sets in in your imperial core).
Anonymous 2022-01-15 (Sat) 16:06:26 No. 692457
>>691067 So would you kindly tell me what these protests are about? I don't speak frog, and it's not in the news in my mongoloid country.
Anonymous 2022-01-15 (Sat) 16:50:26 No. 692580
>>689943 For all the non-french people confused about what is happening here, the first three videos are filming the police trying to dismantle what we call in france a "Blocus", that is, students blocking people from entering the high school as a protest. Although they have gone a bit further this time, police assaulting students is nothing new in France.
>>692457 They're against the Covid-19 safety measures the Minister of Education announced earlier in Janurary. It's a fucking shitshow, with the rules making no sense and being in no way based on scientific research such as for example:
Children who have recieved two doses of vaccines and are "contact cases (this means they have been declared as to have been very close to the kid)" in the last 48 hours may finnish their day of school. No reason as for how they came up with that decision has been declared to my awareness. another example of the stupidity of these measures, a kid who has ate lunch in front/next to a sick child is to be declared contact case. One who was sitting diagonally is completely fine.
So of course teachers and school staff members who had an autism score over 80 decided this was bullshit and went on strike. Some will go on strike again on the 20th and a general, inter-profesional strike (in true french manners) should take place on the 27th.
Anonymous 2022-01-15 (Sat) 16:53:07 No. 692586
>>691110 Welcome to France
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