No.56299[Last 50 Posts]
This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.
To sum up, as it says in the title, this entire strand of thought is more or less an intelligence operation carried out mostly by pedophiles, with a strong satanic/ esoteric influence. On top of this, there are several interesting connections to these operations and operatives and Zionism.
The purpose of these operations, as are the purpose of all CIA operations, is to suppress and destroy the real movement that abolishes the present state of things, the mass movement organised workers, the socialist and communist movement.
What follows is a series of links, references and thoughts which document this feature of capitalist hegemony.
Link to last thread archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210109172410/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/1059488.htmlThe thread from which it was born:
https://archive.fo/GSZBbIf anybody has the thread inbetween those archived that would be wonderful, all the info is copied into that first link but some of the discussion was good and bants.
Fresh Material courtesy of a Based Anon:
https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/19031454.former-lib-dem-candidate-now-far-right-racist-organiser/https://www.vice.com/en/article/4adn9p/he-stood-for-election-for-a-mainstream-political-party-now-hes-a-far-right-organiser
>NICK HILL (CENTRE LEFT IN THE PHOTO) WITH CONVICTED CHILD SEX OFFENDER JAMES SHAND AT A PATRIOTIC ALTERNATIVE EVENT IN KENT IN OCTOBER. No.56301
More New Material:
In this podcast, Azov Battalion are discussed, and their possible funding by a Jewish Zionist. It is already known that they carry Israeli Rifles, very difficult to get anywhere outside of Israel, and that they are openly paid by US congress, who work closely with Israel.
https://soundcloud.com/popularfrontcast/104-the-rise-of-ukraines-azov-battalion No.56318
>>56316God those guys are cringy. Mass beatings can’t come
soon enough.
No.56320
>>56314Yeh this stuff is nuts, if you want to read about it in detail the Nicholas Goodricke Clarke books are really good, particularly “the occult roots of Nazism” which is mentioned in those archive threads. Like, you should see the “intellectual work” that has gone into creating that ideology. The “sexo-racist gnosis” and other tales
No.56334
>>56301Why can't nazis stop kissing jew ass so much, holy shit
farcLas FARC No.56675
Based
No.56709
>firsth thread
>there were stalinist 09a and awd members
Satanic pedophile nazis confirmed….. nazbol gang?
No.57280
>>56709If you read through all the threads you might find the guys who were set up by intelligence agencies deliberately to get in contact with North Korea, thats some mad shit. Same thing happened in Belgium with some Maoist group i think
No.61364
>>59911Lmao. Have any proud goys been outed as pedos yet? Counting down the time until
No.64722
GYPSY CRUSADERS DAD
WORKED FOR THE FBI
Im not sure if im allowed to post the link since it just doxxes him and his whole family
No.64724
>>64722Who is gypsy crusader and who gives a fuck about doxxing feds?
No.65491
>>64724He's a semi-popular nazoid who goes on omegle and says racist shit to random people (He's literally a gypsy, hence the name, which is hilarious since the nazis wanted to exterminate all Gypsy/Romani people). The whole joker persona he does in pic related is because antifa bullied him in the past (like how Arthur Fleck was bullied in the Joker movie) which is why he acts like such a retard now.
>>64722I agree with sage. He's a nazoid and his dad is (possibly) a fed, if you have info you should share it here
No.65498
>>64722I read about this earlier. Has he officially retired yet?
No.66091
The US military picked up most of it's horrific interrogation from this Pinochet era nazi compound and government blacksite
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_DignidadAbu Gharib followed what these guys did down to the creepy looking hoods
naxaliteNaxalite No.66123
>>66091There is actually a few of these instances littered throughout Latin America. You should look into the “rat lines” of Nazis coming to Latin America after WW2 you will find it very interesting. Nazis in Bolivia, in Uruguay etc. All Over the place
>>65491Kek how did antifa bully him? What a pussy
No.66125
>>66123He was a proud boy lol
No.67133
>>66125Proud boy fed count just goes up and up
No.67154
Honestly, is there a good book that will basically redpill me on Nazism? I hate Nazis because they ruined 4chan but I had honestly forgetten how absolutely wacky the ideology is in reality.
No.67157
>>67154If you want to know more about the "wackiness" aspect of Nazism then you should read The Occult Roots of Nazism by Nicholas Goodricke Clarke and Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity which is also by Clarke
No.67158
>>67154The occult roots of Nazism by Nicholas goodricke clark. It’s good for learning about their ideology, not about like, how they grew historically but if you want to know what their crazy ideas were, that is the book
No.67164
So this thread has got me thinking…. Will the feds lose their influence/control over far right groups as the latter becomes more angry with the current government because Biden is in power now and they think he's a Chinese/Deep state/Jewish puppet (as seen with the Capitol storming). Or am I looking at this the wrong way
No.67168
>>67164Nah they won’t, it’s a cult it doesn’t have to make sense. If anything they will double down
No.67169
>>67164Think about the fact that these ops having been going on for nearly 100 years maybe more, under all different types of government (well, the two types which are barely any different )
No.70245
>>56299>If anybody has the thread inbetween those archived that would be wonderful, all the info is copied into that first link but some of the discussion was good and bants.Found it
https://bunkerchan.net/leftypol/res/702127.html No.70382
>>65498Im not sure, but there is a channel that makes fun of him called "griftpatrol" you can find it on youtube and bitchute
No.70399
>>66091>colonia dignidadahh the cult ran by that retarded one eyed child molestor nazi that all the pre-epsteinites hung out at
No.79316
Marjory Taylor Green cheated on her husband with a tantric sex guru lmao
No.79909
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-56044179 Ryan Fleming: Neo Nazi Pedophile Jailed for Messaging children
imagine my shock No.86675
>>56316>We're using the aesthetics of the process church of final judgementFascinating. The rumor in the Satanist community is that Process church was an op itself, much like ONA
No.86677
>>86675Bet if you do a small amount of digging you can get proof
No.86700
>>86677Yeah I got a book on them, been reading through but it's as dry as anglo cooking, apparently there was a lot of buzz about a possible Manson connection back in the day as well.
I also was able to sneak a peak at the intro to "Iron gates" when I was snooping, I'd call it the most retarded ONA shit I've ever read, and I've read a lot of retarded Satanist stuff because I am a Satanist. It opens with SEXY SINISTER WHITE WOMAN WITH ENORMOUS MILKIES cracking open a baby for adrenochrome. It was hilarious. If they weren't actually doing things some of the time I would put it up there with "Empress Theresa".
No.86717
>>56301No surprise there, I feel a lot of the people in these groups are unironically trying to "immanatize the eschaton" or whatever. IMO evangelists are trying and failing to prop up these groups.
No.86977
>>56299I'm reading The Psychopathic God by Robert G. L. Waite, arguably the greatest biography of Hitler ever written. It is a psychobiography, applying psychological analysis to get at what made him tick. No wonder creeps find him inspiring. What a weirdo!
>Claims to have eaten 2lbs of chocolate regularly
> Believed an actual fountain of youth existed, contemplated sending an expedition to Tibet to discover it
>One of his all time favorite movies was Disney's Snow White, which he watched many times
>Was obsessed with death, coveting the painting The Plague in Florence by Hans Makart
> Rarely if ever laughed, issued strange guttural barking sounds instead, possibly because of his damaged vocal chords from a gas attack in WW1 which gave him his characteristic scratchy voice
>Reputed monorchid, had only one testicle
> Obsessed with hands, pampered his own hands and judged others based on their hands, even promoting people on this basis
> Enjoyed to tricking his subordinates with little practical jokes
> Vegetarian, creepily referred to carnivores as "corpse eaters"
> Hypnotizing light blue eyes, nearly everyone he met was struck by them
> Chronophobe, feared and hated time, would try to blur whether it was day or night by keeping the curtains up during the day
> Terrified of being alone at night. Forced one of his subordinates to stay with him until dawn while he slept.
> Obsessed with American westerns and cowboys
>Was calm and composed when dealing with serious matters like the course of the war, lost his temper and went crazy when someone forgot to bring him mineral water
>Flew into rages if anyone laughed at something he said No.86987
>>86977It's like he was stuck in childhood lol
No.86995
>>86977>Vegetarian, creepily referred to carnivores as "corpse eaters"When he's right he's right
No.87014
>>86977there needs to be an infographic promoting hand exercises and vegan diet just like their glorious fuhrer
No.87042
https://www.newsweek.com/mercedes-carrera-gamergate-melinda-smith-actress-rancho-cucamonga-1322242Gamergater, Pizzagater, Qanoner, Infowars Guest, Friend of Mike Cernovich and Gavin Mcginnes, arrested on charges of raping her own daughter and making child pornography of the rape.
No.87052
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/kimberly-guilfoyle-sexual-harassment-allegations-get-even-darkerDon Junior's girlfriend Kimberlely Guilfoyle accussed in sexual harrassment lawsuit, apparently she forced female assistants to look at her naked, as well as forcing everyone in her office to look at dick pics of men she fucked.
Don Junior, CUCKED.
Also on the cuck list: Roger Stone, key Trump and Reagan aid and political fixer, who came up with the "make america great again" slogan, put classified ads out in the 90's for somebody, specifically a black man, to fuck his wife.
So too Paul Manafort, pro Trump republican lobbyist, was found to be forcing his wife to fuck black men in front of him, this came out through leaked text from his kids.
No.87073
Marylin Manson, who has on numerous occasions made racist and anti Semitic rants, and has various nazi tattoos, has recently been accused of large amounts of heinous sex abuse.
No.87086
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyd_RiceBoyd Rice, high priest of the church of Satan, believed industrial music was "the first white music for thousands of years", also a Nazi
No.87087
last three posts btw coming from info on the media roots radio latest episode on the Marylyn Manson sex abuse case
No.87104
>>87087I fucking knew Marilyn Manson was a creep, that "groupie" movie he filmed probably had all the proof so that's why he scrapped it.
No.90957
>>87104Okay Manson also now confirmed pedo btw. I mean, we all knew it in our hearts, but now we know it in our heads
No.93856
>>87042suburbia is breeding grounds for this sort of disgusting shit
No.93913
This thread seems to be the catchall for this, but I've noticed a general trend from when I used to browse gore sites and since I'm also into a lot of fetish stuff those kinds of sites too that a lot of people who tend to be deep into reactionary ideas are usual somewhat….craven. Like, why is it that you rarely hear of (actual) leftists doing weird shit?
In addition, I work with an actual /pol/tard and watching him is honestly fascinating. The other night he was loudly vocalizing his desire to beat up customers he dislikes, and he will frequently fly into temper tantrums and fits of rage at perceived slights and when dealing with lesser injuries, passive aggresive invective. In between his beast like fury he maintains a very suburban, polite veneer of civility that only thinly manages to conceal his contempt for his fellow man.
Greatest hits of weird shit I have gotten out of him
>Alluding to white genocide in front of normies twice>helicopter jokes>many, many antisemetic jokes, including directly at the new Jewish girl in our department>calling Mexicans (in front of me, a Mexican American) a less civilized race despite being half Mexican>long homophobic rants about how marriage is between man and a woman>referring to literally every customer who isn't white as animals when they do stupid shit, but excusing white customers who do (often even more) retarded shit>comparing Mean Girls to white genocide (???)>Obersturmfuhrer (insert pol idiots name) would be a good title for me>Saying every single human on the planet is disposable trash>calling people "girly" despite pushing nearly 380lbs and not in a good wayAll that is funny I guess, but what is most curious to me is how openly and nakedly authoritarian he is. There's all of those above statements that betray a deep resentment and almost unrestrained rage at life itself, and despite being an obese alchoholic with anger issues I find it super fucking weird how all these types are always about law and order despite themselves not actually embodying or even liking to conform to the rigid expectations they set out for others.
I think the funniest thing about this guy is to go up to him and ask him about his thoughts on death. I told him I don't believe in an afterlife and I explained the concept of eternal oblivion and he sounded pretty frightened by it (which is normal, I guess) but you then contrast this fear of death itself with an almost gleeful affinity for violence and you really have to wonder if the core of the reactionary soul is just a series of tensions inside someone who is essentially a caveman trying to adapt to modernity…
Also, this guy:
https://www.scribd.com/document/451029711/THE-BEST-OF-BALD-AND-BANKRUPTTravel Youtuber who is apparently hiding his career as a serial rapist/sex tourist, and BIG surprise he is also into far right ideas. Why?
No.93914
>>90963>>93899>Gen wasn't trans he was "pandrogynous" and he did obsess over nazi aesthetics and associate with neofascists like Boyd also. Yet in the same time these guys were hanging out with anarcho-punks at places like Centro Iberico.It's worth noting that Genesis was not a fascist, to be clear. They were very much in the anarchist camp to the best of my knowledge.
anarcho-nihilismAnarcho-Nihilism No.93918
>>93899
>whomakesthenazis
i think there was a tweet from these guys or a tweet sourcing them where there was this metal guy who (is basically a fascist) just wildly praised the BR00TAL DICTATORSHIPS of Stalin and Pol Pot and everytime I think of it it cracks me up, the way the guy describes it in the interview is fucking hilarious
No.93936
stealing a post from some based anon in the Dugin thread https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avigdor_Eskin>Eskin has close ties to Russian political analyst Aleksandr Dugin, having previously served on the central committee of Dugin's Eurasia Party.[11]
>Avigdor Eskin (born 26 April 1960) is Russian-Israeli conservative journalist and political activist. Born in Moscow in the Soviet Union, Eskin emigrated to Israel where he became involved in right-wing politics. He currently resides in Jerusalem.
>He became an Orthodox Jew and committed Zionist.
>Despite harassment by the KGB, Eskin participated in Zionist activities.
>In Israel, Eskin did military service in the Israel Defense Forces as part of the Hesder program, which combines regular military service with religious studies.[3]
>Eskin was a founder of Israeli New Right movement together with the former MK Michael Kleiner and was behind the alliance between the Israeli right and American conservatives, led by senator Jesse Helms. Additionally, he organised the arms supply to the anti-communist guerrillas in Nicaragua. The most controversial of his activities was his support of the White regime in South Africa due to its staunch anti-communist politics, until its collapse in the early 1990s.
>In 1999, Eskin defiled the grave of Izz al-Din al-Qassam: He placed a pig's head on the grave.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izz_ad-Din_al-Qassam<Izz ad-Din Abd al-Qadar ibn Mustafa ibn Yusuf ibn Muhammad al-Qassam (1881[1] or 19 December 1882 [2][3] – 20 November 1935) (Arabic: / ALA-LC: ʿIzz ad-Dīn ibn Abd al-Qāder ibn Mustafa ibn Yūsuf ibn Muhammad al-Qassām) was a Syrian Muslim preacher, and a leader in the local struggles against British and French Mandatory rule in the Levant, and a militant opponent of Zionism in the 1920s and 1930s.
>Eskin frequently lectures in Russia on political science and theological matters. He is liked within the Russian conservative circles, due to his staunch support of Vladimir Putin, and his anti-Ukrainian, anti-Georgian, and anti-Estonian stance.[1][9][10]
>Eskin is active in South African politics, frequently visiting the country, and working as an activist for Afrikaners' rights. In this role, he has caused diplomatic incidents, notably when describing Desmond Tutu as a fascist who is oppressing the Afrikaner people.[13] additional note as previously documented, Dugin himself is a fed, a Nazi, and there is a video of him performing a black mass, this Eskin character seems to tie together all the different threads. I'll go ahead and surmise he is also probably a pedophile
No.93938
>>93913Damn always knew this guy was a shitebag. can't wait to tell my mate he tries to defend his obvious anti communist propoganda about this. Its gonna be like when I broke his Jordan Peterson spooks showing him the Zizek debate.
No.93950
>>93936>On 1 February 2000, Kleiner pulled out of the National Union, establishing Herut as an independent party in the Knesset. In the 2003 elections the party ran alone. It chose the ballot letters נץ, meaning "hawk", and used the slogan "the 'hawkiest' on the right". Kleiner led the list, with Baruch Marzel, a former member of the outlawed Kach party taking second place. The party won 36,202 votes, though it was only 1.1% of the total, and not enough to pass the 1.5% electoral threshold. Soon after Marzel left to found his own party, the Jewish National Front. No.93967
>>93913How the fuck does that /pol/tard still have a job?
No.94209
>>93913This B&B shit is insane, he's a psycho who wants poor countries to stay poor so he can be a degenerate sex tourist. Watch the first video he posted on youtube, it all makes sense now, fuck…
No.94287
>>94219This is absolutely vile. Grade A fucking
NONCE No.94290
>>94219Is it well known that that is his handle on that site or something?
No.94803
>>94219some Korean-speaking anons should spread this
No.94921
>>93967He's very polite and "nice" when he's not being insane, and is at the very least smart enough to know when to act like a lunatic. He gets really weird whenever we have to do workplace harassment trainings. One of my coworkers was doing one of those on the computer once and he comes up behind them and he's like, "Hey are you learning it's not OK to be racist? That you can't call Italians spaghetti mick wops?" and my coworker is like WTF and kinda laughs it off.
I'm actually surprised of how tolerant people are of his BS, but he's our supervisor so no one wants to really rock the boat. He's very predictable and it's fairly obvious when he's about to say something fucked so I'm probably going to start recording him in secret and get him fired. I remember he "joked" that he tried to get his girlfriends dad deported. Besides the racist thing he's just a nasty fucking person and I've pointed out to my coworkers how fucked up the shit he says is but they seem much more forgiving. Honestly, most burgers don't really realize how truly vile fascists are so it's to be expected. Kind of the liberal "you're entitled to your opinion" thing going on.
I think he might eventually get fired though, he's had violent outbursts every now and then. One of our coworkers (who he dislikes) needed some help once and he just fucking lost it and started punching the walls and doors and shit.
The dude gave me serious creep vibes even before I know he was a /pol/tard tbh, he has mass shooter energy
>>94209Believe it or not, his friends are even worse. They all also VLOG, and they are all pedophiles. At least Bald sticks to 16+ girls, the rest go for literal children
No.94938
It's baffling to me how many mexicans are nazies.
No.94949
>>94219If I'm ever in the Philippines and some dude skewers me with a knife and then goes "ohh damn, sorry, I confused you for that YouTube sex tourist guy," while the blood is pouring out of my mouth I'll respond "nah, don't worry about it, I don't blame you, because that guy is a real asshoaalaaalllllal….." *dies*
No.95123
>>94938I think it's the whole postcolonial thing, AND since this is a tinfoil hat thread I know that the nazis tried to cozy up to Mexico during WWII in an attempt to get some leverage in the Americas, but eventually they chose to go for south America.
No.95145
>>93913see if you can find a way to score with the jewish girl.
No.95152
>>94938A lot of it has to do with being mixed race IMO, Burgerstan especially produces lot of weird Latino wignats. I remember growing up as a kid I wanted to be white and even for a long time after I was ashamed of my heritage and without any real education of your own culture's history combined with that feeling of uncertainty leaves you ripe for grooming by people with less than pleasant motivations. I grew out of it of course as I realized these people would never like or accept me because I'm brown, but people like my older and younger brother who look like they could be from Spain both fell into reaction in an attempt to reconcile their internal struggles with their "race". Neither of them like to speak Spanish, and constantly refer to all of Latin American cultures as lesser.
My older brother is a Wehraboo who has a bunch of Nazi model kits and memorabilia. He's got at least four different SS flecktarn jackets that he wears regularly and a few tank commander hats and an actual replica SS officer hat sitting in his room. He actively avoids the sun and wears sunscreen to avoid tanning and constantly calls me ugly cuz I'm noticeable Mestizo and will also quote 13/50 frequently along with unironically stanning Thomas Sowell while simultaneously engaging in the weird fascist leaning critiques of capitalism on his twitter.
My younger brother came out actually white and is an unemployed NEET who constantly parrots Ben Shapiro and Crowder talking points and is disgusted by the fact that "you can use slurs (no you can't dumbass) in Mexico but not in the USA" and constantly apologizes for white supremacists and ICE mistreatment of his own fucking people despite on some level probably realizing that they would liquidate his dad and mom who buy his lazy ass cheeseburgers if given the chance on the basis of ethnicity alone.
The Chicano movement needs to make a comeback IMO, dealing with these types is annoying because they think being "brown" protects them and they falsely labor under the notion that Latinos will be subsumed into whiteness (hint: they won't, they've been in the US for hundreds of years now and Anglo aggression has never let up) so it's basically impossible to snap them out of their retarded ideas
No.95166
I'd like to add, a lot of Latinos like my brothers tend to fall into weird racial essentialism where they misattribute the problems that come with being from an impoverished background (as a result of being born to poor, often illiterate immigrants) to being Mexican or what have you.
I think they fail to realize that if they had been born in the coal belt or something they would have much of the same issues re:ignorant parents, backwards coworkers and a general self sabotaging attitude
No.96145
Really makes you think.
No.104676
>>93943Being as fat as he is makes him more likely to have less test and more estrogen than the girliest femboys.
No.104693
>>93913It's interesting to note the difference between more radical ideologies on the right and left under conditions which are favourable to them versus conditions which are unfavourable. I mean obviously this guy is a total tool, but clearly not everybody who actively supported the Nazis was some antisocial autist. The vast majority of them were ordinary petty booj people who were scared of le ebil gommies. But under conditions which are not conducive to either fascism or communism gaining mass appeal, the only people they tend to draw in are either intellectuals or else barely-functional weirdos like the guy you described. The obvious parallel on the left would be mentally ill trannies (not to say that being transgender is a mental illness, but a lot of trans people suffer from other mental problems) and the more insane SJWs who lose their shit over every little thing. I mean if a society is relatively stable and people are by and large well integrated into and satisfied with it, then the only people who will be drawn to radical alternatives are those which find it impossible to integrate properly due to their own dysfunction.
sabo-tabbySabo-Tabby No.104891
>>93918that was euronymous lol
No.112228
>>112226who this eyes wide shut looking nigga
No.112230
>>112228I don't know but goddamn I have these pics now, I tried looking at the exif data and it all got wiped.
No.112254
I reversed image searched everything now, the one pic of the circle of mayos leads to this deleted twitter account:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/src/1615366015494-2.jpgnamed SecretSHHiety
SS
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It's full of scripture and Q shit and also "corona is fake" shit, is it a Nazi attempt at sowing discord?
No.112266
>>112262based lmao
accelerationAcceleration No.112273
>>112226Seems like they have fun
No.112274
>>112273needs more suicide to be a true dionysian sex cult IMO
accelerationAcceleration No.112278
>>112274All these 'sex cults' are just swingers clubs with extra steps because they got duped into marriage and are now unhappy.
No.112284
>>112278It's a good grill pilled hobby
No.112367
>>112226Damn, nobody larps harder than the esoteric right. Do we have any other info on the Vril society? According to Goodricke Clarke Vril is what the Nazis believed to be a secret energy source used by Nazis to power UFO's and shit. They were also supposed to be a secret inner circle of the Thule society. Maybe this one is just a larp but still. Spooky.
Things what I have noticed:
>Templar crosses, maybe they are in some way connected to the knights templar international? >Does anybody know what that symbol is in the first picture on the corner of the altar that kinda looks like a T with two additional downward diagonal lines halfway along the horizontal line of the T on either side? >white beard in the third photo, older guys looks like. >in the last picture I swear i've seen that spearhead type symbol before somewhere but dunno where >that golden two faced statue is extremely phallic >>112228kek
No.112551
>>112367There are a ton of books on vril society, some written by the members themselves, I know a lot about vril because I've been into the occult for years now.
Basically Vril society believes in magic white people who live underground and have this magic power called vril force, which is just chi for racists. Anyway these magic white people will one day "help" create a new vril white master race on the surface. There's a lot more weird shit than that and I could go on forever about this but that's the basic idea.
Anyway I don't believe the people in the images are in any group that would ever call itself Satanist, because I am a satanist myself and they are not wearing enough black and their ritual site does not look like a black velvet brothel. I'm serious that is the Satanist aesthetic and no-one veers from it, left or right.
However I'm sure they are related to Vril society because of the sonnerad and all the vril shit.
No.112570
>>112557Laugh all you want anon, I've been one for years and am totally okay with getting laughed out for my beliefs. Truth is I really feel like it's better to do what I feel is right and just be myself no matter what other people think.
No.112573
>>112570esoteric communism when
No.112577
>>112573When Satan-Chan's nudes get reposted.
allendeAllende No.112583
>>112573Never honestly church and state should be separate. Marx would roll in his grave even more than he already does over religious people like me joining the left.
No.112993
>>112551Are you a theistic satanist or an edgy atheist satanist? I'd like to learn more about genuine devil worship, not some glorified atheism stuff. Is there any theistic satanist org?
No.113001
>>112997
>how is that any less edgy
Because theistic satanism is meant to be a genuinely serious spiritual ideology, while atheist satanism was created purely to be "edgy".
No.113027
>>112367>>Templar crosses, maybe they are in some way connected to the knights templar international? Probably not.
The knights templar have been popular characters in the European occult tradition (Nazi or not) for like hundreds of years at this point.
Basically the occultist / esoteric belief is that the knights were a secret gnostic sect that adapted Sufi'ism that got purged by the catholic church.
>>that golden two faced statue is extremely phallic That's Janus.
The "Phallic" thing may make sense i guess considering he is considered somewhat of an incarnation of the male principle in european occultism.
zapatistaZapatista No.113044
>>113039
Yes iirc in one of crowley's books (I think "Vision and voice") he talks about how PAN (Who is the "highest" god in his system in the sense he ranks absolute highest on the tree of life diagrams crowley drew) fucks the whore of Babylon with his giant goat dick to like make magic real or whateves.
Im not sure about it being the same as the sun though. Because i think that he said Horus was the sun and the sun was more a representative of like a totally attained individual ego who had like totally aligned their chakras and became woke like jesus or buddha or whatever the fuck. Which is why its always the middle sphere on the tree of life because it represents perfect balance or whateverzapatistaZapatista
No.113048
>>113039
Crowley btfoing the Golden dawns by making their beleifs public knowledge was based
No.113138
>>113024
>hispanic satanic nazis
That sounds like an oxymoron, are you sure it's really a neonazi org? Also, do you know any occult orgs that aren't neonazi?
No.113153
>>113095
Book 4 (Thats the one where he gives a TL;DR of all the basics of meditation and the point of samsara and sahmadi etc then explains the actual symbolism of the outfit a "wizard" wears during a ritual iirc) That books where he explains Qabbalah using tarrot cards ("Book of thoth" i think) and "In theory and practice" are probably like the only books you really should read if your interested in spiritualism and want to get some sort of value out of Crowley's take on it.
Book of the law, Vision and Voice and all the other books on "Thelema" is just him advertising his own Neo-Reactionary hippy sex cult basicallyzapatistaZapatista
No.113260
>>112993Theistic, there are several orgs like temple of set, dragon rouge, temple.of blacklight, ascending flame project, etc etc.
I'm too poor to join an org but have pirated my way through nine years of theistic Satanism, mostly dragon rouge books and I plan on joining them when I have the dish despite the red flags.
Here are my thoughts on each org:
Temple of set: some great people but lower quality publications, the fact Aquino was openly a flower makes me turn up my nose.
Dragon Rouge: This is it. The primo LHP experience if you want to hurt no one and listen to metal all day and feel like THE CHRISTIANS are always trying to get you.
Temple of blacklight: Truth is I have no idea what happened to these guys, they came out swinging with some good stuff but they also had a bunch of eye rolling shit later on about CULLING THE WEACK despite hating the entire structure of the universe and blaming it on the demiurge.
Ascending flame project: They are iffy and lower quality, but its fucking free! Free stuff is the ultimate selling point.
And here at the bottom I will put in the Gossip tier:
ONA, very clearly an op. Not much to say that hasn't already been said. If you think Satanism is like in movies made by Catholics than ONA is for you anyway.
No.113264
>>113260Aquino was openly a glowie*
ONA is gladio tier*
No.113276
>>113260Do you know which one of those orgs aren't neonazi?
No.113300
>>113276Comrade I have bad news for you they are all probably right kids in the end. Dragon Rouge documents have the least problematic stuff but considering how European they are I would not at all be surprised if the higher levels get more messed up.
Right now a bunch of us left Satanists are in the planning stages of our own org, but because we all have real life obligations its in the planning stages.
No.113304
>>113300This sounds really based. Is there any more information you can give me surrounding the org? I might join if possible once it starts. What's your opinion on OTO? I know it's not necessarily a satanist org but it's occultist.
No.113309
>>113304Reddit unironically, the lefthandpath sub has a lot of us. Esotericsatanism as well anyone is allowed to post on both bet the obvious Nazis get driven out.
I have mixed feelings about the OTO, I like lots of their members but I honestly cannot understand a word of what Crowley had to say about anything. I'm subscribed to a YouTube channel called thoth 93 robot ghod which is all the Crowley I could ever ask for.
No.113322
>>113319Savitri was white but she did marry a nazi guy from India
No.113324
>>113322Indians LOVE Hitler
No.113325
>>113309Yeah, reddit is really good for niche subjects while filtering out nazis. I haven't found any posts about a particular leftist satanist org on those subreddits. You mind telling me the name of the organization in planning?
No.113337
>>113325We haven't even come up with a name yet, but people are publicly spitballing ideas on satanicliterature. We have theists and atheists involved right now. Progress is very slow because we all have lives.
No.113367
>>113355
Here are some of my favorites on the whys and how's of theistic Satanism:
Lords of the Left Hand path by Dr. Steven Flowers
Satanic feminism : Lucifer as the liberator of women in 19th century culture Per Faxneld
Seven faces of darkness by Don Webb
My personal favorite "embracing the dark" by Kennet Granholm
As for how theistic Satanism is practiced I unironically recommend hitting up a pirated PDF library and trying out what seems cool to you. The overwhelming majority of theistic Satanist orgs have one thing in common: the idea of self mastery and self reliance, everyone's application of "worship" is completely customized to fit the practitioners needs.
No.113413
Can anyone elavorate on evidence O9A is an op?
No.113447
>>113413If you go back into the archived threads it’s all there, particularly in the article on medium that is linked “the truth about the alt right a destruction by facts and logic”.
But basically
1) David Myatt, the founder of the group, was deeply involved in the British far right. This by itself is evidence.
2) On top of this, he and many of his mentors were involved in fed groups such as “the league of empire loyalists”. Google them, as well as many others.
3) on top of that, he himself was involved in loyalist paramilitaries, which were literally all MI6 ops, who sent troops to Israel etc.
3) on top of loyalist paramilitaries, he was also a member of column 88, which was a Nazi paramilitary/ street gang organisation which was set up under operation Gladio, if you don’t know what Gladio is, just ask.
4) the 09A were deeply involved in AWD, which was a bunch of feds.
5) he regularly associated with old actual Nazis who escaped to various places such as Egypt and continued to do intelligence work
6) a wealth of circumstantial evidence, including the actual make up and beliefs of O9A which more or less align entirely with the CIA strategy of tension, creation of MKULTRA’d assets and extreme physical training, as well as the fact that the actions they take are directed against the left.
7) the entire far right from hitler onwards is an OP
I’m sure there is a bunch I’ve missed out but it’s been a year since I wrote the article
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No.129818
>>113447>3) on top of that, he himself was involved in loyalist paramilitaries, which were literally all MI6 ops, who sent troops to Israel etc. C18 and that clique was infiltrated at such a level that nothing could happen without there knowledge. I wouldn't be suprised if Myatt at this point was never on the pay himself.
..Kinda glad that the euro nazis never learned the lession of decentralization, there modes of organizing are crazy easy to subvert..
anarcho-nihilismAnarcho-Nihilism No.129822
>>129818I would be suprised if he wasn't on the take*
anarcho-nihilismAnarcho-Nihilism No.142939
>>113447Wait you wrote that Medium article?
No.143008
>>142964Would it be useful to add this information? >>143002
No.143038
>>143008I have been thinking of doing a follow up with new info collected. That does seem fucking weird, what is the context of this post? What subreddit is it on/ where did you find it/ is there any follow ups to it?
No.143043
>>143038as a different poster, there was a lot of different subreddits but it was really noticeable on every political/news one
No.143583
>>143038You should definitely make another one
No.143590
Does anybody have the homofascism webm.? I can't upload mine for some reason.socialismSocialism
No.143794
>>143729what's the song used in that webm
tankieTankie No.143825
>>143794No clue, probably some fashwave band.
No.150174
>>150056On a long enough time line, the not a pedophile rate for all fascists drops to zero
No.150644
>>150174The real question for me is the chicken-egg question, which comes first : the fascist or pedo, or are they so interlinked that they are terminally insuperable?
Do pedos become fascist because their brains are that warped? Do pedos become fascist because they can abuse the authoritarian structure and rape more kids that way? Do fascists become pedos because they start thinking nothing is wrong with it?
No.150685
>>150644from what it seems like with the atomwaffen types who are probably the most open about their admiration for rape, sadism, mass murder, etc. its probably the fascistic beliefs regarding violence that come first. a lot of the ones who actually abused people strike me more as predators who don't discriminate when it comes to who they sexually assault, rather than people who do it out of some attraction.
No.173493
boomp
No.176931
>>150644Maybe both cases exist. Pedo flock to fascism because it gives them the chance to diddle, then other fascists start to diddle to fit in.
No.177017
>>112226What a bunch of dorks
No.177173
>>113260What are your thoughts/opinions re the Freemasons?
No.177212
Ok Hold on a sec i just stumbled upon something that is genuinely fucking spooky.
So in 1975 this guy named Mike Aquino who was at the time both a high-up member of Anton Levay's satanic temple (Aquino apparently basically wrote the newsletters and little news-alerts Levay would mail to all the church's subscribers or whatever the fuck) and ALSO a member of the Military Intelligence who specialised in the FIELD OF PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE Split and formed his own religious oganisation called the "Temple of set" (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Set) Now a few years after this in the 80s this guy came forward and said he had been abducted by Anton-Levay and Mike Aquino (Who the guy claims that Levay would always speak to like he was his superior "Yes Sir" "Yes Colonel." etc.) and they did psychological warfare shit on him in the form of satanic ritual basically.
Now whats fucking crazy is the US government actually gave the guy a million dollars to fuck off with a kurt statment that basically said "We admit the party has been wronged by the US government in some way but we reserve the fact he would not likely be able to prove any criminal activity occurred against him on the orders of Mike Aquino or any other members of US military intelligence"
eurekaEureka No.179390
>>177212Hey does this count.
>Chris Simcox founded the Civil Homeland Defense organization, being the first antecedent of the group to patrol the borders, but were disbanded after his first arrest. April 1, 2005, the group renaming the group Minuteman Civil Defense Corps was a militia organization concerned with border security that invokes the image of Revolutionary War militiamen and traces his motivation to "protect the american borders",ready at a moment's notice to fight for America's freedom. Although the majority of the group's members are Caucasians, some Mexican Americans work to patrol the borders as well, deeply the organization's call to protect legal immigration as a measure to protect American society and resources, approximately 900 volunteers patrol a twenty-three-mile section of the Arizona-Mexico border.[5][6] The MCDC is often confused with or thought to be affiliated with The Minuteman Project Inc., but the two groups are wholly distinct. The militants have been accused of racial profiling, however, approaching persons of color, asking whether they speak English, asking where they live, and questioning them while not quizzing Caucasians in the same areas.[7] The group was originally co-founded by American neo-Nazi, J. T. Ready.[8][9]
>On June 8, 2016, Minuteman Civil Defense Corps co-founder Chris Simcox was found guilty of child molestation,[14] and on July 11, 2016, was sentenced to serve 19.5 years in an Arizona prison.[15]https://web.archive.org/web/20160608221415/http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/8/chris-simcox-minuteman-civil-defense-corps-co-foun/It's not exactly a Nazi group.
No.179508
>>112226HAHAHHAHA! Every time I visit this thread, I always trip out on the unadulterated cringe these faggots produce.
No.181246
>>177212Link?
I've heard some nasty things about Aqunio but I can't imagine Lavey secretly being his superior, Lavey was a literal carnie who loved attetion even more than Aquino did.
No.192114
>>93918what the fuck? I thought Euronymous was a communist, did I mistake him for some other black metaller?
No.192115
>>192114If by "communist" you mean just liked Stalin because he killed one gorillion people, sure.
No.205228
Bump for visiting retard
No.205501
Siege is a good insight on how the federal government infiltrates and subverts dissident movements. Masons insight on how revolution would happen in modern america is closer than alot of other modern “revolutionary” text.
>don't form groups
>act alone
Its odd that AWD did alot of things the book said not to do.syndicalismSyndicalism
No.205678
>>194304Metalhead here. Miss him too. He was a real uygha.
No.205696
>>205501>>don't form groups>>act aloneIsn't that what they're already doing with all the lone wolf attacks? Doesn't seem to be working very well
No.208491
Bumping again for today’s visiting retards
No.209208
>>205678>politically based>makes good musicwhat's not to love?
sandinistaSandinista No.209221
>>209208Was he really politcally based? Thought he saw the soviet union as the caricature of 1984 gulag ten gorillion dead, but that it was edgy and cool to think that was what humanity deserved.
No.209267
>>205678>>194304>>192114>>209221he was not based at all, he was a retarded satanist who sincerely believed western propaganda about the USSR being hell on earth and he just thought that was epic. he was a fucking loser and in my book varg deserves some credit for killing him
socialismSocialism No.209275
>>209267Seems about right, metal musicians are almost all to a man complete retards even though I do like metal.
No.209284
>>209280its interesting that even when the organized left was kind of dead in the us and 'far-left' usually made one think of these radical environmentalst/animal rights groups the fascists kind of coopted their whole "terrorwave" aesthetic from them too
No.209293
>>209284>the fascists kind of coopted their whole "terrorwave" aesthetic from them tooKek. I only learned about 'terrorwave' last week and to me it just seeems like a direct clone of european squatter/anarchist/rave fashion.
>>209280Accidental shitpost flag
No.209487
>>86977these "psychological" evaluations of historical figures are 90% bullcrap tho
No.239232
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No.263046
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No.263700
>>263046I see your bump, and raise you a sage!
piratePirate No.279809
Found out via an old 4chan archive that James Mason was apparently in correspondence with another sex offender Peter Sotos years back.
Except bellow.
fun fact: the University of Kansas library special collections has the collected papers of James Mason (American neo-nazi and writer of that SIEGE book that gets shitposted around here and there) and one of the folders is his correspondence with Sotos circa 2000. Been tempted to put a request in for scans because I can only fucking imagine what those two would go on about.
Sotos had a sort of true crime type magazine which published in lurid details violent sex crimes often perpetrated against kids. Issue 2 of his magazine Pure was found in the home of a suspect over in Scotland alleged to have grave robbed and raped and murder small innocent children. It apparently featured photo scanned images of bound and abused kids. And for this he was put in jail back in I believe 1985 on 100,000 bound. The first person to get such treatment in Illinois. Really makes you wonder what him and old James Mason all wrote to each other about. Seems that birds of a feather sure do flock together.
No.289399
This is probably only tangentially interesting to some people here, but there is a small, but perhaps growing subculture of people in the "manosphere", particularly in the strength training community who seem to be radicalizing into outright fascism.
https://www.scotthambrick.com/article/lets-think-about-the-right-not-conservatism/I spend a lot of time on weightlifting groups on FB and other sites and it's just fucking rife with insane people. If you go on the Starring Strength youtube channel and click around for a little while on some of the comments you can find a handful of neo-Nazis or other rightist kooks.
There was also a whole, MASSIVE network of extremely weird and fucked up "
RETVRN TO TRVDITION" pages on Facebook that I discovered about a year or two ago (probably gone in the great purge) that I wish I could find again because it was that aesthetic but wrapped up with weightlifting and fitness and they had huge followings. Posts by the page I saw was shit like, "DRINK YOUR MILK AND EAT RED MEAT THREE TIMES A DAY, AVOID GMOS AND LIFT. READ EVOLA" and they all had like 300 comments or more sometimes
It was fucking terrifying lmao
No.289405
>>289399>We’ve been to Wal-Mart. We know that the voting franchise should be limited. In light of recent fraud, perhaps voting should be eliminated. Voting doesn’t seem to perform the function we were told it performs, but it does make normies believe the rulers have a mandate. They do not, and the perception that they do hold a mandate is very harmful.If this manifesto was found in a piece of fiction I would've thought the writer was too on the nose about Ideology-shopping symbolism.
No.289407
>>205501>Masons insight on how revolution would happen in modern america is closer than alot of other modern “revolutionary” text. >don't form groups>act aloneRevolution is defined in the aftermath of power transition by those taking power, not a discrete event or series of discrete events by individuals acting alone, which he fantasies about building up into a maelstrom of destruction. Like others pointed at, ontologically his ideology has more similarities with anarchism.
No.289421
>>289409No such thing as a fair fight
Fight dirty retard
stalinStalin No.289436
>>289409>The admin is like 6'4 and stacked. I lift weights too but I'm short and probably won't bench 315 for another year or so. We're f u c k e dbullets kill him no matter how much he lifts
No.289440
>>289436they have guns too though
Have you seen Proud Boys out and about? All stacked, and have massive arsenals. We're doomed. What do we have?
A S H I E L D W A L L?
https://mobile.twitter.com/iwriteok/status/1348028943656394753?lang=en No.289473
>>289440>Have you seen Proud Boys out and about? All stacked, and have massive arsenals. We're doomed. What do we have?Yes, I saw them personally, and they're serious fucking cowards. They freaked the fuck out as soon as they realized how outnumbered they were when they went out to harass protesters despite nobody even getting close to them and fled.
Later they drove around on a pickup truck and shot at literally random people on the sidewalk with paintball guns.
That was only one of several cases of right-wing types being toughguy fuckbois last year.
No.289481
>>265174Marxism is for the MASSES, for the WORKERS. The whole idea of esotericism is anti-marxist since it means that there are some "deep truths" that should not be exposed to the masses. Some people spend too much time online and have a hard-on for mystical bullshit. Esoteric pseudo-science is only good for the capitalists and their cucks who fantasize about being part of some "ruling inner circle of elite".
It's shit, sorry.
No.290060
>>289409Don't be intimidated by these people. They might have physical strength but they lack backbone. They lack courage. Don't let them forget it. So, they don't handle setbacks well. The Nazi-fascists were strong until they weren't.
It's like fighting a Tiger tank. How do you fight a Tiger tank? You don't face it head on, you outmaneuver it and attack it from the flanks, or just bypass it and wait for it to run out of fuel because they forgot to bring enough. Or you just… run away. And then let wander around aimlessly hunting for an enemy that's not even there. And then it runs out of fuel. And then you strike.
No.290073
>>289440They’re pussies. Even if they come kitted out, they’ll only do something serious if they think they have numerical superiority. In Portland last year when they came to the protests, not only did a shit ton of them mace themselves, they scattered when fireworks were thrown at them.
They’re no freikorps and never will be.
No.290644
>>290073Yeah one thing about the contemporary American brownshirts is that, with some rare exceptions, they're terrified of death or other major inconveniences especially for ideological reasons. Which is very much unlike their counterparts in interwar Germany.
No.290860
>>112551Can you recommend any good books on understanding them? Are there any academic ones?
No.293081
>>209280Can you give any recommendations for any books like this anon?
No.294095
>>289409Nice larp polyp fuck off
No.294115
>>289409I say that as 6,4 jacked dude ,street fights are chaotic as fuck
Roids help mostly in like getting beat up but not getting knocked out
No.298605
>>290644>>290678US special forces soldiers are already being pumped full of drugs and lone wolf ideology. We have brownshirted friekorp kids, but they are off in other countries or dormant.
The trailer park nazis by contrast, are more akin to Charles Manson. They are garbage people having their brains ruined by mkultra and before being sent off.
No.300106
notice the UFO on the black sun?
No.300120
>>300106Notice? How can you not notice? They might as well fly the swastika at this point it'll just make things easier for everyone.
No.300267
>>300101That's terrifying
farcLas FARC No.300302
>>300101>That Symbol.MEANWHILE INSIDE THE AZOV BATTALION :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq2w_Zm2K3ceurekaEureka No.300310
>>300101I know multiple libs who are pro-Azov battalion. Do they just live in a different reality from us where the esoteric nazism is never revealed?
No.305310
Did a bit more research into the far right and the connection to pedophilia. And sure enough found yet another infamous nazi fuck who is into kids. Today's exhibit Ryan Brewer. Perhaps better known as the racist fuck that shouts racial slurs and obscenities on airplanes (one of which went viral with him wearing the burger King hat) so he apparently will not get his old crusty ass deported from Jamacia back to the US. Seeing as he has a warrant out for his arrest there apparently. Anyway if you go to his YouTube channel you can find clear evidence of him being subscribed to many kids YouTube channels and having one such video saved to a playlist that is public. Totally not creepy at all for some like 60 year old fuck to be watching little kids play around while soaking wet. And before accusing me of just being on a witch hunt don't forget that YouTube disabled comments on many such videos due to the open pedophilia in there discussion sections.
No.305382
>>289481But anon tons of people have a natural drive or interest towards mystical thinking. Shouldn't we find a way to meet these tendencies with a pov compatible with marxism?
No.305407
>>305310Of course that psycho degenerate is a nonce
pol=pedos
No.305409
>>305382youre a fucking dumbass
No.306049
>>56325You people do understand that most of pol isn't nazi but just people who want to live in peace with their own kind?
I mean, it's more important to me to be able to let my kid play on the playground without supervision or go to the nearby grocery store without being raped by Ahmed, than letting Ahmed into the country to collect benefits and make 10 babies which will (according to research) be even worse than him.
No.306084
>>306059Ah man, and here I thought you people engaged in "intellectual discussions" and "listened to other people's arguments". At least when you invade pol you get an argument instead of shitty memes.
No.306113
>>306097Lemme guess, champagne socialist, pro id-pol, lives in the suburbs, parents paid for meme diploma, never had to worry about Ahmed or Tyrone drop kicking your 2 year old for being the wrong color?
No.306114
>>306049>You people do understand that most of pol isn't nazi but just people who want to live in peace with their own kind?No, they aren't, and their definition of "live with their own kind" is violently removing anyone who isn't.
>I mean, it's more important to me to be able to let my kid play on the playground without supervision or go to the nearby grocery store without being raped by Ahmed, than letting Ahmed into the country to collect benefits and make 10 babies which will (according to research) be even worse than himBullshit.
>>306084>At least when you invade pol you get an argument instead of shitty memes.We don't invade /pol/, and /pol/ doesn't give arguments. They give unsourced infogrpahs between soyjack spam and single sentence responses before the thread rapidly decends down the pages with no ability to bump before getting suddenly archived and the poster banned.
No.306130
>>306113You're literally pro-idpol you faggot. Being a regular fucking anti-idpol socialist means being against what you are for you idiot.
No.306135
>>306113sorry im not american i never stepped into a suburb or visited one of your meme colleges
No.306145
>>306114>No, they aren't, and their definition of "live with their own kind" is violently removing anyone who isn't.Yes they are. First of all, I'm from the EU, 2nd largest group of users after USA. No one asked me if I want millions of Ahmeds to come and literally behead school teachers, and rape and murder women. I do not. I wish them no harm I just want them to go back to their country. Only those really fleeing from war are welcome, until said war ends. And as far as I know, only war zones atm are Yemen and Palestine, Syria - last event was summer 2020, refugees returning, Afganistan - US troops pulled out.
>BullshitOn what grounds? On your prejudiced view of anyone who says they don't want their kids raped and murdered when stats show that's literally what's happening?
No.306147
>>306145Aus welchem Land kommt das Ami schwein denn angeblich?
No.306159
>>306130Ah yes, you're so anti id-pol you believe there are no differences between cultures and races and we can all live happily on the same land with 10 000 religions and cultural customs. Or do you believe that if we strip all the people of anything they can identify with outside of working and "hey I'm a fleshbag too" that will make for a happy society?
No.306160
>>306084>At least when you invade pol you get an argument instead of shitty memes.>pol>arguments instead of shitty memesK E K
I'm glad this site is still living rent-free in the mind of rightoids
No.306185
>>306145>Yes they are. First of all, I'm from the EU, 2nd largest group of users after USA. No one asked me if I want millions of Ahmeds to come and literally behead school teachers, and rape and murder women. I do not. I wish them no harm I just want them to go back to their country. Only those really fleeing from war are welcome, until said war ends. And as far as I know, only war zones atm are Yemen and Palestine, Syria - last event was summer 2020, refugees returning, Afganistan - US troops pulled out.Literally most migrants are a result of imperialism both the US and most of Europe engaged in. Saying "war over, go back" is no different then stating "we just finished making your country a destabilized shithole and ruining your infrastructure, now go back". You say you don't wish them any harm, but what if they refuse to go back? Will you inflict harm on them then? And it's not millions raping and killing, it's statistically a minor few as with most people. Just arrest and remove those ones, and leave the rest.
>On what grounds? On your prejudiced view of anyone who says they don't want their kids raped and murdered when stats show that's literally what's happening?It's bullshit because thats not even the core reason /pol/ cares, and I spent more then enough time on the right to understand that. It was never about rapes or bombings or whatever, the vast majority would still be calling for expulsion regardless if those occured or not.
No.306210
>>306145If you're anti-immigrant I sure hope you're anti-capitalist too, because there's a good chance whatever country you're from depends on immigrants for cheap labour to maintain the economy, in addition to imperialism, which causes said immigration.
No.306224
>>306185>Literally most migrants are a result of imperialism both the US and most of Europe engaged in. Saying "war over, go back" is no different then stating "we just finished making your country a destabilized shithole and ruining your infrastructure, now go back". This is a fair point with which I agree to a point. No one asked anyone in my country if we want to be a part of the NATO pact. No one asked me if I want to bomb those poor souls. But just because they suffered doesn't mean I need to as well, and from the same imperialist hand.
Your logic is "the empire killed the people of Nigeria and now it should kill the people of the U.K.". They're not raping soldiers or presidents, but regular plebs who already hate their government and don't approve of what it's doing.
>You say you don't wish them any harm, but what if they refuse to go back? Will you inflict harm on them then? And it's not millions raping and killing, it's statistically a minor few as with most people. Just arrest and remove those ones, and leave the rest. I will not inflict harm, I will board them on a plane and ship them off to their homeland.
Show me those nonexistent stats please. And after you don't find them explain this to me:
If a people are known as violent, hateful and rapey towards the domicile population and there have already been thousands of incidents, WHY ON EARTH SHOULD WE RISK IT?!
Why would I let in even one Ahmed (that is not fleeing from war) if he is a potential threat to the domicile population?
Why would I risk my sister being raped, my teacher being beheaded for some rando from far far away who hates my culture and my people and just wants more monetary wealth?
Why can't I help him in his country? Why does he have to come here?
> It was never about rapes or bombings or whatever, the vast majority would still be calling for expulsion regardless if those occured or not.I disagree and I've been a poltard for 4 years.
No.306243
>>306197You probably forgot about the, what was it, 10ish million Christians starved and murdered with a couple more thousand hiding in the woods of Siberia. Oh and the fact that Stalin literally deported minorities and most states didn't mix cultures but were ruled by a puppet government. Also funny how an anti imperialist would be so pro imperialism when it's done by a communist state. I'm from an ex-commie country, wanna know how awesome it was?
No.306251
>>306210Capitalism can work when heavily regulated and not deployed on a global scale.
I'm anti imperialist but am definitely anti one centralized entity controlling literally every aspect of the economy. Am also anti anyone being extremely rich while people don't have enough to eat.
No.306281
>>306224Scratch that, I do agree to a point. To keep a countries traditions and culture, the domicile populace must be at least 90% of the people in the nation.
If you come to Nigeria (100% Nigerians) and you bring enough Japanese to make up 50% of the populace, what happens next?
In a few years, Japanese is the 2nd language, Japanese culture is just as important of a subject as Nigerian language and culture. Nigerians are pushed out of some workplaces because the Japs just do it better and the Japs only hire other Japs thus pushing the Nigerians out of certain sectors. Japs are now trying to take over the government because they are just as important as the Nigerians (e.g. produce as much goods).
Competition for resources and power is one of the fundamental truths we can both agree on and in group preference always was and always will be a thing.
I don't mind the mr. Kimchi next door or the Turkish kebab down the street as long as my people are 90% of the populace.
No.306288
>>306251Well then I hate to break it to you, but under a system that demands endless growth, globalization and imperialism was the natural end point. The magical "stable" capitalism that you can keep on a leash doesn't exist, and the only countries that were able to tame porky and regulate capitalism a bit only did so because they had the Soviet Union knocking on their door. The closest thing to what you describe is China, which I don't think you intended. If you do legitimately hold those beliefs, then you are against capitalism. If you support capitalism, then you do support everything that comes with it: imperialism, wealth disparity, poverty, hunger, etc.
No.306323
>>306224>This is a fair point with which I agree to a point. No one asked anyone in my country if we want to be a part of the NATO pact. No one asked me if I want to bomb those poor souls. But just because they suffered doesn't mean I need to as well, and from the same imperialist hand.Then campaign against capitalism, not the migrants you idiot.
>Your logic is "the empire killed the people of Nigeria and now it should kill the people of the U.K.". They're not raping soldiers or presidents, but regular plebs who already hate their government and don't approve of what it's doing.No, I'm staying that you have plenty of people leaving the abhorrent conditions created by the west, most of which aren't committing and don't commit what you are stating. Now as Zizek says, "poverty does not create noble people", but that still doesn't mean I support them being removed.
>I will not inflict harm, I will board them on a plane and ship them off to their homeland.And how will you do that if they don't want to go? C'mon, you know the answer.
>Show me those nonexistent stats please. And after you don't find them explain this to me:Show me the stats where its the avst majority, or even millions, first.
>If a people are known as violent, hateful and rapey towards the domicile population and there have already been thousands of incidents, WHY ON EARTH SHOULD WE RISK IT?! Why would I let in even one Ahmed (that is not fleeing from war) if he is a potential threat to the domicile population? Why would I risk my sister being raped, my teacher being beheaded for some rando from far far away who hates my culture and my people and just wants more monetary wealth? Why can't I help him in his country? Why does he have to come here?They are there though, and their country is already ruined. You can't fix something post-hoc, the country is already in a terrible condition. If you want to head over there to help, be my guest. But nothing will consequently change until imperialism by extension capitalism is done away with. I don't treat every migrant as a potential threat, I treat them as they are themselves. And the risk argument is meaningless, because as long as we are in this system, mass migration will be a thing that exists.
>I disagree and I've been a poltard for 4 yearsI disagree and I literally frequented around 8/pol/ and /fascist/, which an election baby like you probably didn't even know about until it was shut down. I was even on 4/pol/ before it became more of the shithole it is now post-2016.
No.306341
>>306243>10ish million Christians starved and murdered with a couple more thousand hiding in the woods of Siberia.Didn't happen.
>Oh and the fact that Stalin literally deported minorities and most states didn't mix cultures but were ruled by a puppet government. Also didn't happen like you're trying to describe it.
>Also funny how an anti imperialist would be so pro imperialism when it's done by a communist state. No communist state was imperialist. Read Lenin and understand how imperialism is concretely defined.
>I'm from an ex-commie country, wanna know how awesome it was?Why don't I ask all of those people from ex-commie countries who preferred socialism?
No.306379
I love how every couple of months or so this thread is slid by some seething and coping polyp infuriated by the landslide of evidence that him and his friends are glowing pedophiles
No.306398
>>306323That's not capitalism's fault. It's unchecked totalitarianism masquerading as democracy. I seriously don't understand you people.
>Elite bombs random countries for more money and influence for the elite. = CAPITALISM BAD>Anything bad happens anywhere = CAPITALISM BADWhile I do agree unchecked capitalism is utter shit and people like Bezos shouldn't exist, I definitely don't think electing one single Bezos to regulate all the wealth of a nation and its trade is a sane idea.
>No, I'm staying that you have plenty of people leaving the abhorrent conditions created by the west, most of which aren't committing and don't commit what you are stating. Now as Zizek says, "poverty does not create noble people", but that still doesn't mean I support them being removed.Show proof or fuck off with that argument. I have around 100 articles totaling 2000 deaths and 10 000ish rapes. I also have a study published by Swedish scientists looking at their stats and 60% of rapes are commited by people with a migrant background. You literally don't want to know the truth.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20961790.2020.1868681
>And how will you do that if they don't want to go? C'mon, you know the answer. Ah yes, you are super smart. If a man breaks into my house and steals my food I'm not allowed to throw him the fuck out.
No.306403
>>306398>it’s not real capitalism Thank you for adding nothing cope and seethe
No.306412
>>306341>Didn't happen.What is the Holodomor and who is Solzhenitsyn?
>Also didn't happen like you're trying to describe it.Enlighten me then.
>No communist state was imperialist. Read Lenin and understand how imperialism is concretely defined.Let me tell you without reading propaganda. Imperialism is conquering other countries for your own benefit and wealth. Yugoslavia did it, the USSR did it, the UK did it, the USA is doing it.
>Why don't I ask all of those people from ex-commie countries who preferred socialism?Yes they preferred socialism for many reasons which you will never acknowledge
>Agrarian communities were the norm in USSR and Yugoslavia. Which means small ethnically and culturally identical units working in tandem for the betterment of the group.>People were poor as fuck mostly (unless card carrying politbureau member), and weren't propagandized 24/7 with the new iphone plus 19854959 or the need to live in a palace and drive a ferrari. E.g. they were content with what they had and didn't ask for much more aside from a pack of smokes.And I will concede one point, housing was cheaper and easier to obtain, BUT most people built those houses themselves because they weren't useless retards like most of people today.
No.306417
>>306403No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying this has NOTHING to do with the economic system. It has to do with
>It's unchecked totalitarianism masquerading as democracy or capitalism, or whatever the fuck you want to call it. This is a small group of elites working for their own betterment to the detriment of the people.Any system that isn't totalitarian (commie or fash) can work with good people leading it, including socialism or capitalism. I'm saying the PROBLEM IS THE ELITE, NOT THE SYSTEM
No.306423
>>306398Holy fuck if you don't even understand how invading the Middle East and keeping most of the global South in poverty is related to capitalism then I think /pol/ might have rotted your brain
No.306424
>>306423Enlighten me then. How is it the system's fault and not the elite.
No.306431
>>306398>That's not capitalism's fault. It's unchecked totalitarianism masquerading as democracy. I seriously don't understand you people.It literally is capitalism. Do you understand what capitalism is?
>While I do agree unchecked capitalism is utter shit and people like Bezos shouldn't exist, I definitely don't think electing one single Bezos to regulate all the wealth of a nation and its trade is a sane idea.How is socialist state utilizing planning in any way comparable to Bezos? Again, do you even understand what capitalism is? Capitalism, even regulated capitalism, inevitably leads back to the same situation we find ourselves in now, and regulation doesn't do shit because it fundamentally misunderstands what the state is and how the system shapes it.
>Show proof or fuck off with that argument. I have around 100 articles totaling 2000 deaths and 10 000ish rapes. I also have a study published by Swedish scientists looking at their stats and 60% of rapes are commited by people with a migrant background. You literally don't want to know the truth.>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20961790.2020.1868681You said millions you faggot. I didn't deny that some immigrants may be criminals, I denied that most were criminals. And your study is far more nuanced in how it clarifies migrant background, because not all migrants are from the middle east like you make it out to be. Again though, I don't deny there are migrant criminals, but that wasn't the point of the argument.
>Ah yes, you are super smart. If a man breaks into my house and steals my food I'm not allowed to throw him the fuck out.But they aren't. They migrated, and if they don't want to leave, you will have to harm them to try and move them.
No.306432
>>306243Don't you mean the 99 Million White Christian Russians Killed by the Judeo Masonic Bolsheviks?
No.306464
>>306424I don't even know how to explain it so you can understand, it's like I'm speaking to a toddler.
Regions like Africa and the Middle East are rich in resources. Keeping the countries poor and undeveloped allows the capitalists of the West to extract said resources for cheap and exploit the local population. Keeping up so far? Well, turns out living in shit motivates the locals to migrate to richer countries, like the West, who then use them as cheap labour, further growing their own profits. If you don't see how this is related to the economic system, and don't understand how "the elite" you mention was created and actively benefits from this economic system, then you are economically, politically, and probably literally illiterate. Stop browsing pol and please pick up literally any book, your brain is dying
No.306473
>>306412>What is the Holodomor and who is Solzhenitsyn?Again, didn't happen. "Holodomor" is term which describes a genocide, which the famine was not. Solzhenitsyn is fiction author who's wife admitted to him embellishing and who even himself denied the holodomor.
>Enlighten me then.Deportations happened, but they happend in the context of war and in trying to provide a short term solution to reactionary counter-revolutionary sentiment. It was not something done to remove certain ethnic populations for the reason of them being a certain ethnicity. Republics were also not ethnostates, and people could move freely between them as long as they possessed identification. Living in republics just required you to first make a request in terms of employment and for housing availability to taken into account first. If extra housing was available and your credentials met the need for labour, you could move.
>Let me tell you without reading propaganda. Imperialism is conquering other countries for your own benefit and wealth. Yugoslavia did it, the USSR did it, the UK did it, the USA is doing it.That's not what imperialism is. Try again. Also, the USSR and Yugoslavia didn't invade for wealth.
>Yes they preferred socialism for many reasons which you will never acknowledgeWhat, like actual economic stability, guaranteed employment, and housing built with community and services in mind?
>Agrarian communities were the norm in USSR and Yugoslavia. Which means small ethnically and culturally identical units working in tandem for the betterment of the group.Do you literally think the USSR and Yugoslavia didn't have cities? Did you learn anything about these places after industrialization?
>People were poor as fuck mostly (unless card carrying politbureau member), and weren't propagandized 24/7 with the new iphone plus 19854959 or the need to live in a palace and drive a ferrari. E.g. they were content with what they had and didn't ask for much more aside from a pack of smokes.People were not "poor as fuck". In fact, wages were pretty comparable to many other western countries.
>And I will concede one point, housing was cheaper and easier to obtain, BUT most people built those houses themselves because they weren't useless retards like most of people today.You idiot, do you even know what Khrushchyovka and all the evolutions of apartments after it were?
No.306479
>pedo
Um, based?
No.307237
>>306464No need to humiliate people you don't agree with. I'll see if I can talk down to you in a manner you understand as well:
>How come those same countries were also invaded during monarchies and empires?Yes the elite benefits, they would benefit as well under literally any other system, because ANY system in the universe can (and if the elite is evil) WILL invade other countries for profit to the detriment of its own people sometimes.
Was Rome capitalist? English monarchs are also capitalists? USSR was capitalist? China of today is also capitalist?
I think you're the one with brain rot not me.
No.307267
NTA
>>307237>Yes the elite benefits, they would benefit as well under literally any other system, because ANY system in the universe can (and if the elite is evil) WILL invade other countries for profit to the detriment of its own people sometimes.This isn't an economic analysis anon, this is idealistic moralizing about history. The question is why systems become the way they are, and what shapes it as a whole. Your argument is nothing more then "bad people appeared one day, bad thing happens". Its not an actual analysis of anything.
>Was Rome capitalist? English monarchs are also capitalists? USSR was capitalist? China of today is also capitalist?No, but all of that misses the point, which is that imperialism is economically inevitable and integral to capitalism. Simply pointing out other states, empires, or places doesn't change this. The USSR was also not imperialist.
>I think you're the one with brain rot not me.I don't think you understand anything that is actually being discussed, and have jumped into board in an attempt to make discussion about concepts you have not read about, but would like to present yourself as knowledgeable of like any other pseud.
No.307289
>>307267Can you not even entertain the thought that I'm right? All you claim is "you're wrong! because reasons I can't explain".
I already said, I'm not a capitalist, I'm anti authoritarian.
You seem to be bringing everything to the lowest common denominator - system bad. Which just isn't true.
>imperialism is economically inevitable and integral to capitalismNo it isn't. It's integral to greedy assholes wanting more than their fair share. Why did the USSR and Cuba support counter revolutionaries in Africa? Goodwill, love of the people? Ofcourse not, they wanted influence and power. Which would make them imperialist. Or, since those nations were being taken over by imperialists, counter imperialists who are also imperialists.
No.307298
>>307289>Can you not even entertain the thought that I'm right? All you claim is "you're wrong! because reasons I can't explain".I did entertain it, it's not a new thought. You're still wrong, for reasons that have literally been explained. Capitalism as a system necessitates imperialism due to the core mechanisms of the system itself.
>I already said, I'm not a capitalist, I'm anti authoritarian. You defended the system of capitalism. That makes you a capitalist in terms of ideological support for the system.
>You seem to be bringing everything to the lowest common denominator - system bad. Which just isn't true.It's not "system bad", it's "system inevitably results in certain actions being undertaken by capitalists due to the concentration of production, the monopolistic tendency, and the dominance of finance capitalism, all which is predicated on the the circuit of capital, with imperialism itself acting as a buoy to the falling rate of profit."
No.307304
Could you retards explain why your bickering is relevant to esoteric hitlerism, the CIA or right wing pedophilia?
No.307313
>>307289>>307298>No it isn't. It's integral to greedy assholes wanting more than their fair share. Why did the USSR and Cuba support counter revolutionaries in Africa? Goodwill, love of the people? Ofcourse not, they wanted influence and power. Which would make them imperialist. Or, since those nations were being taken over by imperialists, counter imperialists who are also imperialists.Influence and power are not inherently imperialist. Any revolutionary state seeks these things. Supporting counter revolutionaries, while a mistake politically, isn't imperialist though. And if "greedy assholes" can act to undue a condemn a country to revisionism, if that is the case, then it also still a systemic problem, because the system allowed them to get there in the first place. I don't pretend the USSR was perfect, but it was a lot better and got further then what came after. The USSR still had potantial to correct course and address the issues that had been growing in the system, but now it's dead and Eastern Europe is worse off for it.
No.307332
>>307237I mean I'm sorry if that offended you anon, but I am legitimately baffled I have to explain something as basic as why Africa is poor, or why forever wars exist. It's not a matter of replacing the bad guys with good guys and suddenly the system works perfectly well for everybody. There are "evil" dudes on top because the system itself creates and advantages them. The "evil" they do is just what is in their economic best interests. Morality is irrelevant. By refusing to acknowledge the real parasite and shifting the blame on "bad people" corrupting a perfectly good system, you are actively working in favor of these elites.
>Yes the elite benefits, they would benefit as well under literally any other system, because ANY system in the universe can (and if the elite is evil) WILL invade other countries for profit to the detriment of its own people sometimes.I just want to point out you are literally almost perfectly describing a core tenet of Marxism here, historical materialism lol. I really think you might get something out of reading some theory, check out the beginners list at
>>285223 No.307347
>>307304Every once in a while a rightoid pops into this thread to cope and seethe, and the dudes here always take the bait and engage with them.
No.307420
>>307332Yeah. I know why Africa is poor and it has nothing to do with imperialism lmao. Again, you take down everything to the lowest common denominator.
>Africa poor cause imperialism.Wrong. Africa poor because 80% of their population would be considered legally retarded in the EU. They could've:
>before imperialismNot live in a tribal society, trade with other countries, build boats, build cities etc. if your measure of success for a people is monetary wealth. For me it's not. I think they should've been left the fuck alone to enjoy they tribalism because they don't function well in forced westernization which is what you're recommending.
>after imperialismUse the existing infrastructure to become the richest countries in the world because they have an abundance of resources. But they didn't and the west still feeds and clothes them because most of them are not fit for a western lifestyle which was imposed on them.
>But that's RACIS!No it's not. That's just who they are as a people. I personally know people who lived and worked in Africa, all come home with the same stories about how Africans don't want to work and have no concept of delayed gratification. It's not their fault. They should be left the fuck alone to live their best life.
No.307463
>>307420Yeah, I thought this would be your conclusion kek "durr they're poor cause they're nig nogs". But that wasn't the point I was making, because I was referring to the fact that the West purposefully keeps Africa poor to keep getting their resources for cheap, and actively stopped them from forging their own destinies and "getting rich", as we've seen in Libya, Burqina Faso, etc. It's not even something unique to Africa, we see this anywhere from Eastern Europe to Latin America, although to a lesser degree. But given that you are literally denying the effect imperialism and colonialism has had on Africa, I'm starting to feel you might be just genuinely retarded and I wasted my time talking to you lmao. If you don't even get the correlation between poverty and education, intelligence etc. then God help you. Don't complain when you get taken over by the Chinese Ubermensch
No.307558
>>307420>>307538Also, look at how well Zapatistas and Evo have done, both of them have far surpassed any previous achievements. You are a dedicated racist and not logical at all but look at Sankara also and Lumumba this is what Africa would look like without imperialism.
No.307582
Friendly reminder not to derail the thread with off-topic posts or your posts may be removed
No.310879
Who was the anon talking about the process church? Prettt good Netflix doco “the son of Sam” talks a lot about the process church anybody else seen it?
No.311021
>>307420>Africans don't want to work and have no concept of delayed gratification. It's not their fault. They should be left the fuck alone to live their best life.why the fuck would you even want to when you're going to be mired in poverty anyway
this view always assumes that there is no outside factors influencing a persons behavior, like your entire country being run by comprador elites who keep everyone broke
No.313066
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57406673
>said the age of consent should be 12 Oh…. That’s another one
No.313623
>>313066BASED
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>>313755Dayum, prime Eva Hoehler (2nd from right in middle pic) was a cutie. Shame about the Satanic Nazism.
No.313951
>>313917What the
FUCK is happening in that thread
No.314270
I'm a Paleocon and I hate neo nazis, love my fashbros though.
No.314824
>>313755Thats the Church of Satan, not the Satanic Temple.
No.323509
>>314270GTFO Fascist pig!
No.332680
>>290860Bumping for an answer
No.349864
So I've been reading Lenni Brenner's "Zionism in the Age of Dictators"
Brenner was Jewish, A Trot, and good Friends with Stokely Carmichael, together they founded 'The Comittee Against Zionism and Racism'
In the book, Brenner spells out, in detail, the relationships between the Nazi and Fascist movements and Zionism. He discusses the similarity in ideology, and the Zionist mindset, which he contends is anti semitic, as it inherently sees Jews as a people who will always be othered, and must therefore have a state of their own, rather than assimilating. (This is a tldr of the whole much more fleshed out idea).
As well as this, as I said, he documents their material relationships. As it turns out, the Nazis in a huge way helped build Israel, through the Haavara agreement, a trade deal which saw huge amounts of German capital flow into Israel.
to quote Brenner:
>The top limit through the Ha’avara scheme was 50,000 marks ($20,000 or £4,000) per emigrant, which made the Ha’avara unattractive to the richest Jews. Therefore only $40,419,000 went to Palestine via Ha’avara, whereas $650 million went to the United States, $60 million to the United Kingdom and other substantial sums elsewhere. Yet if, in terms of German Jewry’s wealth, Ha’avara was by no means decisive, it was crucial to Zionism. Some 60 per cent of all capital invested in Palestine between August 1933 and September 1939 was channelled through the agreement with the Nazis.[20] In addition, the British set the annual Jewish immigrant quota, using the weak economic absorptive capacity of the country to limit their number; however, “capitalists” – those bringing in over £1,000 ($5,000) – were allowed in over quota. The 16,529 capitalists were thus an additional source of immigrants as well as an economic harvest for Zionism. Their capital generated a boom, giving Palestine a wholly artificial prosperity in the midst of the world-wide Depression.https://www.thestruggle.org/Zi_Age_Dictators.pdfYou can find the book here.
No.350114
>>314855Bro, that is an amazing observation, that now seems so obvious I don't understand how I haven't noticed it ever before. Contrast this to Soviet posters. I went googling explicitly for Soviet war propaganda, and couldn't find one poster where the eyes are darkened.
Not only are the eyes covered, but the face is completely expressionless. The depiction is deliberately lifeless, completely and totally idealized, erasing the individual even in close up. Soviet propaganda poster, however, zooms in on the individual human in the uniform, drawing special attention to the emotional expression.
For the Communist - a worker, a peasant or a poor student - individuality does not exist in the normal (in the case of the Soviets, former) capitalist order. You're treated like a piece of machinery or an animal or a resource by the exploiters. Individuality and humanity is only achieved through the collective which gives you the power to defend your freedom and insert your human dignity. For the Nazi - who's a petty bourgeois, a white collar clerk, a member of the intelligentsia - individuality and "freedom" are always there, and much boasted about, but in reality it's a source of anxiety and bitterness. The individuality capitalist relations have afforded them is atomized and alienating, while at the same leaving them individually responsible for their well being and well being of others - or so they feel. Thus, for all their talk of the "mindless communist horde" there's no greater fantasy for the Nazi but to let go of their human individuality and lose themselves in the mindless collective.
Nazism truly is a perverted parody of Communism. This is the real humans vs orcs shit right here.
No.355344
>>355324Not that anon but I think it might also have something to do with the style of futurism you see in Italian fascism's propaganda.
No.355397
>>350114>>355324Yeah, once you recognize it, you'll see it everywhere. The Nazis are like "eyes wide shut." I'm not read up enough on aesthetic theory, but it might be somewhat subconscious or spontaneous, as if the aesthetic themes spontaneously regenerate themselves and take on a life of their own or just resonate in their brains. So that fashwave art contains themes that are common in Nazi art in the 1930s, but the form it takes is retro-80s noir imagery so it synchronizes / updates with the times.
If you look at communist posters from the Soviet Union, the emphasis is often on the eyes which are wide open. The "five heads" with Marx, Engels, etc. will have each face lined up at eye level. I think the emphasis on the eyes is also intended to impart wisdom, truth, intelligence, vigilance, etc. And light. Communist art tends to be very bright, and the sun (sometimes blindingly so) is another recurring motif that you'll start seeing everywhere once you start noticing. I'd almost liken communism to a modern-day solar religion or something. Chinese communist posters during Mao would often have a big sun in the center of the image with Mao's face within it.
The Nazis, on the other hand, have the "black sun." The sun is blacked out.
Here's some contemporary Indian communist music. The video is interesting because they show you these very expressive faces with the people staring directly at you.
I'll try to find some more examples of these things.
No.357043
>>357041reactionaries have had the same mindset for thousands of years, it's not surprising they'd hit the same beats over and over I guess
No.357105
>>357094Oh my god I'm dying
No.357531
>>357519
>fascists hate trump too
Lmao fascist cope he had you all hook line and sinker
No.357538
>>357531They hate Trump. I don't know what to tell you other than that.
No.357547
>>357538That why literally every single one of them spent 5 years shilling for him? Bitch please we were all there, we all saw. Everyone from the daily stormer down. All of them pedos, half of them feds, all of them trump cucks.
No.357564
>>357547Nobody liked him after 2018
No.357567
>>357557
Renegotiating your argument won’t help you, all of your little YouTube cucks (which is your entire movement) all your gay little national socialist parties, all of it, was pro trump until very recently with few exceptions. This is your great meme legacy you CIA goon. Deal with it, you were a patsy, and your denial here means you continue to be a patsy. I’m sure you have some children to interfere with, run along
No.357574
>>357567You're making stuff up. I never voted for Trump, not even registered
No.357595
>>357574what would you do that trump wouldn't have done already?
Fascists are so annoying, a bunch of worthless hipsters.
No.357615
>>357595If i was president? lmao
Deport millions of people
Take way women's rights
Take away LGBT rights
Close the borders forever
Stop giving money to Israel
No.357618
>>357615good luck on that then. Honestly I would actually fix the damn states and remove porkies from power as much as I possibly can. I guess going on snipe hunts is better tho you idpolista.
No.357641
>>357618Oh idc about being president. I hate greedy people too.
>>357628Are you implying the Proud boys are Fascist? Dude in pic is a fed or some dumb larper
No.357647
>>357641I don't even get you. ARe you just into fascism because you think it makes you look like some tough guy or something? I get that being "Anti faggot" is based and all that but if you want to actually be strong you'll actually have to uh…fucking work out instead of just spout edgy (not even really that edgy honestly) opinions on things.
The "Conservative counter culture" is about as shallow and fake as the Ramones.
No.357686
>>357647I think Democracy is flawed.
I take care of myself, anon.
No.357716
>>357574>making stuff up The absolute fucking cope. The only reason you didn’t vote trump is probably because you are underage or some shit. It is properly hilarious you say this shit. You probably come from 4pol, where there are still Donald Trump general threads to this day.
Also
>I would stop giving money to Israel It’s a shame that Nazis literally built Israel and the Nazi party was literally built by a Zionist.
No.357722
>>357615>I wouldn’t change the economy I would just go after groups of people that aren’t meRetard shit again.
No.357737
>>357716>you didn’t vote trump is probably because you are underage or some shit. No i just don't care for voting. Plus he supports Israel, so yeah.
>It’s a shame that Nazis literally built IsraelLol yeah
>Retard shit again. k
No.357738
>>357737you come off to me as a literal teenager.
read more shit boy.
No.357776
>>357737>Nazi building Israel Read the thread :
>>349864Give me an example of a major fascist movement leader around about the trump era who wasn’t pro trump
No.357821
>>357776>>Nazi building IsraelI already know
>Give me an example of a major fascist movement leader around the trump eraDefine Trump Era. You mean throughout Presidency? He had lots of support in 2016-2017, but if you ask someone like James Mason if he still supports him, he would probably say no.
No.357830
>>357821
>I know already No you didn’t lol.
>if he STILL supports him So he did support him then? Also James Mason is a pedophile lmao this is who you follow for ideology?
No.357840
>>357830>No you didn’t lol. I did.
>this is who you follow for ideology?No. You asked for a major fascist leader, and he was a random example.
No.357851
>>357840So the only one you can come with did originally support trump and is also a pedophile degenerate. Wow some movement mr fascist supreme being
No.358028
>>357851It's also worth noting that Atomwaffen was never entirely accepted within the alt right of 2016-2018, satanism drama notwithstanding. from what I remember they werent even considered part of the whole movement because they just wanted to blow shit up instead of trying to go mainstream like the other people. so overall a shitty example
No.369372
>>306288>well made point against rightoid that demolishes him on the basis of economics<no replieslike pottery
No.369383
>>357038i think these ones in particular are meant to evoke deep feelings of disgust and fear, hence the recurring skull motif. it gets interesting when you remember the nazi death cult (
https://www.libraryofsocialscience.com/newsletter/posts/2014/2014-12-8-odonnell.html), which glorified death on the field of battle and martyrdom. one can then interpret these posters as being a call to confront death, but death is simultaneously disgusting and evil as well as something to be desired and celebrated. i actually think this fits in well with other inconsistencies in nazi ideology (the jew is simultaneously a weak subhuman and a very strong threat to "your race").
what would psychoanalysts have to say about simultaneous hate and desire for an object, idea or person?
No.369394
>>368977
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No.372706
>>305382>>289481>>265174True, its a subject that those with lust for a cheap and fake power can't get enough of. But can't esoteric ideas technically become that way through being lost or covered up over history's annuls? Maybe it's not necessary to make it a word coded as bourgeois type of knowledge strictly?
Its also true too that so many people are attracted to mysticism, it's history and spiritual stuff. There is arguably esoteric knowledge from indigenous Aryan language sources, quite ironically, that can hold the virtual antithesis to what Hitler was masquerading as an Aryan political or economic system. That is, if you accept esoteric to also mean "almost lost or covered up in history."
No.372963
>>372960
>a fascist reads the esoteric hitlerism thread and reverts to programming
No.372965
>>372963Such is the life of a literal NPC.
No.372981
>>358028>fascists do the not my comrade thing tooDon’t care didn’t ask, you are fighting for the same cause doesn’t matter what you dress it up as and I don’t care about your motivations. You fight for capital, with the pigs, as a pig, practically, in every instance.
No.385304
An anon posting an archive of Nazi-era propaganda and I've been looking through it and noticing a lot more of the creepy esoteric themes, such as the cloaked and shadowed eyes.
Here's the archive:
https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/Gonna dump a bunch of examples of weird stuff. Just focusing on some propaganda images for now, but one of the most disturbing things in there are charts laying out their theory that "genetically ill" people are a cost to the state – i.e. physically and mentally handicapped people, who were exterminated.
No.385327
>>94949Honestly? Fair enough yeah m8 I agree
piratePirate No.385821
>>357538Oh sure they did, most of them "hated Trump" until it was time to shill for him on election season. Like bro, most of us were there, we saw how /pol/ had the dancing Trump video stickied to play on the board when he won, there's no use denying it. I get that they "hate Trump" on a theoretical level, but whenever it counts, they shill for him en masse. It's like how fascist theory is very critical of capitalism, but the second a fascist government takes power, they actively collude with the industrialists and mass-privatize industry. Being theoretically against something doesn't mean shit when your actions always support it. Hell, for example, most of us here are deeply critical of China, yet we always defend it the second imperialist warmongering turns its gaze towards it. That, for better or worse, makes this board largely pro-China, or at least anti-anti-China. That's what we call critical support, and it's clear that you guys have "critically" supported Trump since the beginning.
palestinePalestine No.390999
>>112551thats retarded anon. You're not 13 anymore, grow out of that corny ass bullshit
No.391005
>>290634So an obese man in an edgy cosplay with a bunch of ugly women. Not surprising
No.391630
Found this in a comment section. Is this true?
>You should know as well that [Dugin] was caught numerous times praising Himmler and engaging in massive freak shows with the Harlot of Babylon and tributes to Aleister Crowley. Sergey Kurginyan did an entire 10 part video series investigating the strange world of russian leftists and their connections to the CIA, traitors within the KGB, neo-nazis, satanists, french trots connected with intelligence and the transnational financial oligarchy.
No.391638
>>391637
I'm sure it was just from fags who got caught up the Trump populism meme. I'm sure 85% of /pol/ still voted for his ass (well the ones who just aren't just larping or pretending to be right because it's "in" with the edgy crowd)
No.391706
>>391648
I think there's a lot truth in that. There's an extreme / edgy "teen" thing to it and kinda-gothic Death in June element where the Nazis were like the tragic underdogs which appeals to depressive nerds who share emo pictures of Hitler. They're trying to push boundaries and this is an extreme way to do it. And some anons on here who used to be self-described Nazis or fascists have admitted that this was one of the reasons they were attracted to it in the first place.
>>391637
Some anons here don't agree with me about this, but I think what a modern-day American fascism looks like is just a radicalization of the existing right along with all the problems that they care about, not necessarily what the edgy teens care about or the dying breed that is 80s/90s ZOG-fighting skinheads, who – as you said – might've only made up 5% at most of Trump's coalition.
"Fascism" as an ideology though was always hard to define and it varied so much in different countries. And Mussolini's variety was probably less anti-Semitic than some other mainstream parties in Europe at that time, at least in the beginning. That's why I think a real American fascism with teeth will probably just be lined up with the Israeli Likud party. The Nazi ideology in Germany was a specific kind of thing that grew out of a radicalization of the German right at that time, with their own particular historical beef and scores they wanted to settle. It's not like Hitler came up with blaming Jews for losing World War I and wanting revenge, look at the Erich Ludendorff. Hitler though was a charismatic orator who drew a crowd and rose up the ranks of the party and then, over time, subordinated it – and the country – to himself.
So… in America, this is what you get. QAnon. It's deeply tied into wanting to accelerate Armageddon by supporting Israel to Trump's Laying of Hands and Christian megachurches being significant voices of Q theory into peoples lives. There are things that are good and there are things that are evil. There are no shades of grey or areas where a good thing can be bad or a bad thing can be good. Capitalism = USA = Patriotic = Good = God. An attack on any of those things is an attack on all of those things. Socialism = Regulation = Government = Communism = Evil. The government is bad in one breath and the police are amazing in the next breath. They are virtuous, right, moral and Christian. Everyone else are the evil ones.
The world is unjust and unpleasant and they know it, but finding out why it is that way is difficult, the answers would be upsetting, and the solutions would be even more difficult and upsetting than either of those prior steps combined. So far easier to just lash out blindly and decry all the evils of the world while calling for a return to a mythical past that never really existed.
No.391767
>>391706You know whats funny is that QAnon is actually very well organized and is apparently staging takeovers of smaller city governments and instituting their agenda against the grillpilled citizens. The idea of this occuring on a larger, national scale is both hilarious and terrifying.
Imagine the fall of the US empire being defined by fascism with QAnon as its specific flavor…it would almost impossible to describe to future generations. Nazism on its own is already a bit bizzare with the hyperborean and hollow earth type of musings, but I assume the history of fascist movements in the US would be reduced to a assertion of the supremacy of capitalism in the same way the Nazi movement was ultimately reduced to a furious ethnic animosity
No.391770
>>391648
You guys let a DnD larper be in charge of your security services. The inmates run the asylum in NaziismpiratePirate
No.391828
>>385321>>385307>>385304You have to admit that they make great movie posters
No.392595
>>392584I hate how similiar my own country is to Nazi Germany. I would say Lmao but it's honestly not that funny.
I kind of want to emigrate.
No.393036
>>113319How schizo was this bitch?
nazbolNazbol No.393771
>>391643Scratch a fascist and a pedophile bleeds
No.393822
>>392595that pic is pretty funny though, cry harder piglet
No.395739
That's gonna be a bump from me dawg
No.405853
>>368865missed this, i cant think of a quicker way to get implicated in terrorism than to join that group through that site, besides doing a suicide bomb or something
No.406189
Technically Most of the allied countries are still at war with Nazi Germany, because no formal peace treaty was ever signed at the end of WW2 owing to the dissolution of Nazi Germany, the heads of the armed forces surrendered their men , but there was no formally recognized Nazi government after Hitler killed himself.
So technically you could shoot a an armed uniformed Nazi as an unsurrendered enemy combatant.
No.411497
https://16chan.xyz/fascist/res/78.htmlHere is a sneak peak at neo-nazis defending marrying 12 year olds to own the jews
No.411700
>>411663Here's a list of some British neo-nazi nonces, but I'd like to see updated version with all the US/UK/Europe creeps, since there's so many of them in Atomwaffen, National Action, Nordic Resistance Movement, Sonnenkrieg and other Iron March weirdos.
Martyn Gilleard, local leader of the National Socialist British People’s Party, prepared for bombing. 39,000 child pornography images were in his possession:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/7469180.stmTwo members of the far-right British National Party drank 14-year-old girls to death and sexually abused:
https://theukdatabase.com/2012/05/08/ian-hindleandrew-wells-blackburn/A 40-year-old fascist addict brutally beat his 16-year-old girlfriend:
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/14249499._Controlling__Blackburn_drug_addict_repeatedly_punched_and_kicked_teen_girlfriend_as_she_lay_on_onA 13-year-old girl was sexually abused by a racist fanatic and held illegal images of her:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/race-hate-thug-who-chanted-7916756The National Socialist 43-year-old BNP member found 17,058 child porn images and 215 videos. He himself had also filmed child pornography and told his pedophile friends online that he wanted to murder the little boy and videotape it:
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/walker-nazi-worshipper-exposed-paedophile-140607947-year-old member of the Nazi organization Blood & Honor convicted of shocking violent rape:
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2016/02/17/darlington-s-nazi-rapist-jailed-for-nine-years-for/Ryan Fleming, a member of the National Socialist National Action, tortured and sexually abused a teenage boy:
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/national-action-launch-paedophile-hunting-investigative-journalism-series-even-though-one-of -its-members-is-a-sex-offender_uk_5756cfc7e4b0411d4de1fe4c
The same white nationalist Rayan Fleming was also convicted of sexually abusing a 14-year-old girl:
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15441403._Boastful_and_arrogantman_jailed_for_sex_with_girl14__he_met_on_Facebook/A 43-year-old far-right White Man March supporter raped two children at least 13 times:
https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/horrific-abuser-who-raped-vulnerable-children-after-buying-them-sweets-jailed -for-20-years-1-7582633
A 60-year-old BNP and EDL activist murdered a 15-year-old girl who was sexually obsessed in his apartment: online:
https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/crime/paige-murderer-jailed-for- more-than-three-decades-1-7381160
A far-right EDL activist couple exploited a 7-year-old child, photographed child pornography and distributed it online:
https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/crime/heysham-woman-accused-of-using-seven-year-old -girl-for-worldwide-pornography-1-7364866
The same couple has also fledged a 13-year-old girl to her apartment where the man had sexually abused this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/lancashire/8572755.stmA far-rightist who was previously convicted of a mosque attack and appeared as a "pedophile hunter" was revealed to be a pedophile himself who tried to lure a child into sex:
https://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/crime-court/romford-paedophile-squad-jailed-for-grindr- blackmail-1-4156153
The far-right nationalist repeatedly raped a 12-year-old girl:
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/jailed-army-cadet-sergeant-groomed-9400037An EDL active sexually assaulted a 13-year-old boy, and lured teenage boys into sexual activity via the Internet:
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/kane-hutchison-gateshead-sex-offender- 8937114
A member of EDL and Britain First, convicted of attempting a bomb attack on a mosque, was in possession of child pornography:
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2015/01/07/britain-first-officer-on-sex- offenders-register /
A member of the far-right North West Alliance was convicted of several rapes and child sex offenses:
http://www.deeside.com/shotton-man-mervyn-jones-sentanced-17-years-jail-sex-offences-four-children/EDL member raped 14-year-old:
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/11278914.Man_charged_with_rape_of_Blackburn_schoolgirlAn EDL member convicted of armed robbery kidnapped a 10-year-old child and tried to rape this:
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10740053.Armed_robber_and_child_kidnapper_could_be_on_the_run_in_Sussex/A member of the nationalist North West Infidels, he admits to being a child abuser. Received convictions for several sex offenses:
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8030864.Child_molester_jailed_after_girl_relives_horror/Matthew Woodward, an EDL member, found child porn images and videos of 10-year-olds:
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2012/05/20/why-did-the-edl-not-protest-this- paedophile-case
An EDL activist working with children sent sexual text messages to a 14-year-old:
https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/15935498.Connah_s_Quay_project_worker_sent_sexual_texts_to_teenagerThe EDL man prepared for the 13-year-old to be abused online and eventually raped him:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/facebook-pervert-stephen-payne-walks-1736961Richard Price, a founding member and former director of EDL, was in possession of child pornography. Tommy Robinson, considered a far-right martyr of freedom, defended pedophile Richard:
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/176587/Paedo-rap-for-EDL-leaderBNP racist activist convicted of child pornography images and videos:
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/8771457.display/BNP member found child pornography in a home search:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/meliden-killers-dad-child-porn-2053471The same BNP fascist, Ian Siree, previously raped a 14-year-old and harassed a 12-year-old:
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8043021.Karate_instructor_on_sex_charge/The racist, who was also a candidate for election to the BNP, was part of a child pornography network where he distributed material about boys under the age of 13:
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2012/07/18/bnp-hypocrisy-over-paedophile/Another racist who was a candidate for the BNP election, Roderick Rowley, was also convicted of possession and distribution of child pornography:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/10-things-you-should-know-about-the- bnp-when-you-watch-question-time-Tonight-1806874.html
No.411719
>>411700>when asked about his ideal sexual partner he just points at one of the digits.What did he mean by this?
No.411736
>>411497I was looking at their /smg/ social mastery general and why are these dudes obsessed with not touching their dick
thinkThink No.411860
>>411839For all their talk of exterminating degeneracy, why is there such a strong correlation between being a committed fascist and beating your meat to children?
No.411954
>>411839Maybe he meant he liked GILFs?
No.433976
Keeping it bumped, keeping the pedo Nazis seething
No.442385
Any deepcuts on Hal Turner?
No.444179
bumopgg
No.449628
>>307420Shut the fuck up bitch, you've been
OWNED HARD, you've been fucked into the ass and your skull is full of semen, just leave.
No.454313
>>94219Just been reading back over this thread, did not before see the reference to one "Pierre Woodman" apparently a Hero to this Bald and Morally Bankrupt Character.
Woodman it turns out, is a pornographic film director, (this was after being a cop and in the army) who did a lot of work in eastern europe after the collapse of the soviet union i.e. he exploited women during one of the worst humanitarian disasters in all of history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_WoodmanHe is also accused by several people of sexual assault and rape.
He also worked for Larry Flynt,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Flynt the man behind Hustler and other pornpographic endeavours, a man whose own daughter accused of rape, among other things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Flynt#Charges_of_incest,_misogyny,_and_racism
>Flynt's daughter, Tonya Flynt-Vega, accused him of sexually abusing her as a child.[54][8](p16) In the 1998 book, Hustled: My Journey from Fear to Faith, Flynt-Vega writes about her father showing her images from Hustler and while he did so, he began touching her, had her remove her bathing suit, assaulted her orally, then showed her his erection and tried to penetrate her. She writes, "The pain was intense. I know I was hurt. Dad had not penetrated [me]."[8](pp116–117) She described an exchange with her father after he knew she planned to publish a book describing his abuses of her: "He called me at work one day and said ‘If you don't back-off that book, I'll send somebody to wring your [expletive] neck.’ … He's 'Mr. Free Speech', but he's threatening to kill somebody for writing a book."[55][8](p67)
>Hustler cartoonist and humor editor, Dwaine B. Tinsley, created the comic feature called "Chester the Molester". It was a monthly part of the magazine for 13 years. In the comic, the main character endeavors through various means to molest and otherwise sexually assault girls and women.[59] In 1989, Tinsley was arrested, charged with molesting his daughter from age 13–18.[60][61][62] Tinsley was convicted of that charge on January 5, 1990.[63] His conviction was overturned in 1992 when an appeals court ruled that the jury should not have seen cartoons drawn by Tinsley.[64] The prosecutor in the case ultimately decided not to retry Tinsley, who served 23 months of a six year sentence.[65]
>Flynt claims he didn't ask Tinsley about the conviction and "Chester the Molester" cartoons drawn while in prison continued to appear in Hustler.[66] He also defended Tinsley, calling him "a genius" and "at one time in America in the Seventies and Eighties the most brilliant and recognized cartoonist in America."[67] No.457214
A recent U.S. government court filing in the case involving an Atomwaffen member cites an unnamed informant who helped the police with the case who "currently owns and operates a publishing company that distributes white supremacist writings." The informant has been paid more than $140,000 for his work over the past 16 years when he was recruited in 2003, according to the court filing.
Obviously, the informant is unnamed, but what do you think the odds are that it's the same publishing company – Martinet Press – that distributes those occultic Nazi books which the Atomwaffen guys were obsessed with? ToB and so forth? If true, it would seem to confirm the OP's original theory that this whole esoteric, ultra-extreme neo-Nazi cult stuff has been bankrolled as a government operation.
It's worth noting that the informant, according to the court filing, was busted in 2003 on a federal charge "for possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number and an unregistered silencer," which is the same charge that the Martinet Press guy, Joshua Sutter, was hit with in 2003.
>In the US, perhaps the most extreme of ONA’s nexions is the Tempel ov Blood (ToB). ToB’s literature encourages sadism and sexual violence, glorifies mass-murderers and terrorists, and calls for adherents to engage in racially motivated violence depicted as a holy war.
>The ToB is reportedly run by Joshua Caleb Sutter, an alleged neo-Nazi occultist activist who converted to militant Hinduism; and who is said to have founded an astonishing pro-North Korea group in South Carolina named the Rural People’s Party.
>The AWD’s required reading material included ‘Liber 333’ and ‘Iron Gates’, both of which were authored by Sutter and released by Martinet Press, which is run by his wife and fellow ToB militant, Jillian Scott Hoy.
>‘Libre 333’ is a satanic manual, which guides neo-Nazis who fantasise about evolving into a new form of vampiric Aryan predator, and openly calls for infiltrating entities with “sinister potential”, such as the military, the police, religious or right-wing groups; while ‘Iron Gates’ is sci-fi gore that tells the story of a blood-thirsty death cult, and contains graphic descriptions of rape, torture, and murder.https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/countering-radical-right/nazi-satanists-promoting-extreme-violence-and-terrorism/ No.457220
>>457214>Joshua Caleb Sutter, an alleged neo-Nazi occultist activist who converted to militant Hinduism; and who is said to have founded an astonishing pro-North Korea group in South Carolina named the Rural People’s Party.WAIT WTF THIS IS THE GUY THAT ISMAIL (EREGIME) AND JASON UNRUHE BOTH KNEW!
No.457247
The other thing that's worth thinking about here, is that everyone who bought a book from that publisher gave their personal information to an informant. Name, address, etc.
Oops.
Unless they paid him in Bitcoin and used an anonymous name and P.O. Box to receive their race-war porno novel in the mail. Most probably didn't, though.
No.457264
>>457247But they'll probably be fine, because the feds are more than happy for Nazis to run rampant as a counterweight to actual progressive movements.
No.457460
>>457214Good find anon, very interesting
No.457472
>>449628kek you literally got so BTFO you told him to shut up and then fantasised about cum HA GAY!
No.457479
>>289481>Marxism is for the MASSES, for the WORKERS. The whole idea of esotericism is anti-marxist since it means that there are some "deep truths" that should not be exposed to the masses.This so fucking much. All the spirituality "esoteric" occult bullshit is elitist poisoned lies to oppress people literally probably since the dawn of time. I don't know how you can be a Marxist and even entertain any of this nonsense. Because aside from the fact that is isn't real, it is literally used to oppress the lower "unenlightened" classes. So ya no shit nazis are obsessed with it.
No.457481
>>372706>muh ancient aryans>muh secret history>mystical bullshit is realfound the nazoid
No.457486
>>305382are you fucking retarded? Marxism is totally opposed to any of that, for good reason, even assuming it is true, which it isn't. I don't even think you know what Marxism is if you want to rectify it with pseudo-science mystical occult bullshit.
No.457492
literally cannot believe there are people claiming to be Marxist when they believe in woowoo newage / esoteric bullshit. hilarious. this has to be some underaged highschoolers
No.457572
Please don't laugh, I'm serious. So I was covertly in a /pol/ fbi.gov which was essentially for occult "esoteric hitlerism" type shit, mostly out of sheer curiosity to see what the schizos were on about. Lots of praising evola and others like him who are even more obscure, and all the usual pseudo-history/pseudoscientific shit that goes along with this. I got tired of it and started laughing at them telling them I was going to expose their autism with screencaps (which I lied about taking) and they threatened to curse/hex me. Soon after I was contacted by one of the main dudes and he told me I would regret everything because him and his "circle" were sending "entities" after me.
Over the next 3 days I started noticing that I was having really bad luck / bad things keep happening to me. In order: one of my best friends basically said I've become a boring asshole and he doesn't like being around others when I'm there (hence the reason he doesn't take me to parties anymore) and doesn't care if we're friends, my brother (who has a pre-existing condition) was diagnosed with covid and the whole family is extremely worried about him (he is already extremely frail / has a lung disease), I think my bed or something is suddenly infested with fleas (I have probably over 100 bites from my feet up to my groin itching like crazy and being scratched raw since 2 nights ago), I burned my arm badly on a hot saucepan, and my phone screen randomly burnt out and is all black since a few hours ago. I've also been having really bad anxiety (more than usual), extreme feelings of self-doubt and depression and haven't slept well.
Do you think it is just a coincidence? if you believe/know about this stuff, is this actually thing they can do and how do you stop it? I am open-minded but naturally skeptical, but this has me freaked-out quite honestly, and it has me dreading the future.
Also why do the rightoids seem to have a monopoly on mystical shit? like evola and all the esoteric nazi interests, if this stuff exists wouldn't they be extremely powerful behind the scenes? do the far left have anything like this to fight them? evola is like some sort of god figure to these asshats btw, if you haven't noticed. Like some sort of dark sorcerer/palpatine figure which is pretty cringey but a cool aesthetic ngl. Thinking of reading him to "know thy enemy" and because my recent experiences may have opened me up to this. Thoughts?
No.457595
>>457572>Do you think it is just a coincidence?Perhaps, but if it isn't, I'm energetically aligning this post with yours, and you with me (and me with you) to collectively dispel this Nazi curse, casting it away, and converting their spooky racist hate magic into healing love.
I'm not sure this will actually work, but I'm told it does.
No.457603
>>457595idk if you're trolling or not, but after typing this I realized I can't access a huge amount of important stuff that I had Google Authenticator for logging into (through my phone), idk if I'll ever be able to get back in to these accounts (2 of which had actual money in them). I also sharted a few minutes ago (laugh away) because when I get anxiety attacks I also get very loose bowels. I also forgot to mention that I woke up drenched in sweat last night, which only happened when I got nightmares when I was a kid. Fuck me.
No.461125
>>457603We are energetically alligned dude
No.461220
>>457595That woman got ZAPPED out of this dimension.
There are amazing edits of this video.
No.469057
>>265174>>305382All true religion is esoteric Marxism
No.471153
>>470194
kys faggot
No.471435
>>457243Sutter was literally the publisher for Martinet Press, the same ONA publishing outlet which created such le gems as "Iron Gates" and other pedo shit.
The really interesting thing is that would make the FBI's hands extremely dirty in spreading such filth, I'm pretty sure they are doing it on purpose as some GLADIO type thing and pretending to be a Honeypot.
No.471519
>>471150There are only three things that are certain in this world, death, taxes, and far right pedophilia
No.473937
>>289409want to fight a nazi? the nazi is too tall? don't worry i got the solution for you. poison
>go to his gym>sign the membershipinfiltrate the gym
>check for the cameras>buy or make some poison (you can make either some deadly poison or just something that fucks him up but doesn't kill him)still want to fight the nazi?
>poison him if you want, that will make him weaker>take some meth or coke if you don't want to poison him, that will make you not feel the pain>just hit him with a baseball bath in his head if you don't want poisonlife is so easy
No.474443
>>457220>WAIT WTF THIS IS THE GUY THAT ISMAIL (EREGIME) AND JASON UNRUHE BOTH KNEW!For the record, I've never interacted with him nor knew anything about him until articles began being written about the RPP's bizarre fascist backstory.
Back in 2008 or 2009, there was a thread on RevLeft that brought up the existence of a "Rural People's Party" which basically consisted of two persons living in a trailer and claiming to uphold Jim Jones and Juche.
At that time the American Party of Labor had recently been proclaimed (it consisted of less than a dozen "Hoxhaists" on the Internet, myself included at the time) and someone for some reason had the idea of writing a polemic against the RPP, as if this were a worthwhile endeavor. From what I recall the APL's argument was just "you people aren't very good Marxists" and the RPP replying with "argh you are a bunch of dogmatists." I wasn't involved in that.
That is the extent of the APL's interaction with the RPP. All I remember doing at the time is messaging other APL members making fun of the RPP's strangeness.
Coincidentally, I'm writing an article on Jim Jones' life, arguing (as I did in a previous article on Jonestown:
https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=102313) that his conception of socialism was quite firmly in the vein of utopians like Robert Owen, not Marx or Engels.
No.474499
>>457214Would love to have been a fly on the wall of the AWD Telegrams when this shit was going down lmao
No.474582
>>86977
> Believed an actual fountain of youth existed, contemplated sending an expedition to Tibet to discover itIt was the 1930s-1940s, people believed in dumber shit back then
>One of his all time favorite movies was Disney's Snow White, which he watched many timesSo? It was a good film and still is.
>Was obsessed with death, coveting the painting The Plague in Florence by Hans MakartLots of people are
> Rarely if ever laughed, issued strange guttural barking sounds instead, possibly because of his damaged vocal chords from a gas attack in WW1 which gave him his characteristic scratchy voiceMaybe its because he smoked meth all the time
>Reputed monorchid, had only one testicleLOL
> Obsessed with hands, pampered his own hands and judged others based on their hands, even promoting people on this basisRetarded belief
> Enjoyed to tricking his subordinates with little practical jokesBoss trying to make the workplace fun
> Vegetarian, creepily referred to carnivores as "corpse eaters"Based
> Hypnotizing light blue eyes, nearly everyone he met was struck by themGay
> Chronophobe, feared and hated time, would try to blur whether it was day or night by keeping the curtains up during the dayMfw Chronophobe
> Terrified of being alone at night. Forced one of his subordinates to stay with him until dawn while he slept.Might have been because he was the most hated man in Europe. Assassination would be easier while he was sleeping
> Obsessed with American westerns and cowboysI am obsessed with certain movies and shows. doesnt mean anything
>Was calm and composed when dealing with serious matters like the course of the war, lost his temper and went crazy when someone forgot to bring him mineral waterEntitled hitler
>Flew into rages if anyone laughed at something he saidLaughter is banned in fascist dystopias
No.474593
>>474582> Chronophobe, feared and hated time, would try to blur whether it was day or night by keeping the curtains up during the dayWtf. Based. What's a good read on this?
No.474594
>>113324Well, not exactly. I am indian. Southern Indians don't have a affinity for Hitler. It's really only a subset of northern indian hindus who like Hitler. North Indian Hindus like hitler because they see muslims as India's jews and slavs. They need to be exterminated, in their view, or at the very least used as slaves. India was the greatest when Hindus ruled India and they need to return to that time when Hindus were in power and owned everything. They see dravidians (southern indians) as lesser beings on par with what Nazis saw the Greeks or Turks as. The whole subcontinent, in their view, needs purification of lesser races and therefore they want to eliminate muslims, dravidians, assamese and pretty much anyone who isn't North Indian, Hindu and Hindi Speaking.
Indian people are a diverse people anon and we shouldn't all be labeled based on some idiots.
No.474596
>>113322And they never fucked once
No.474598
>>474594I should clarify they like the idea of a ethno-nationalist state that purges minorities and see Hitler's Germany as the greatest example of such a concept. Hitler sometimes gets praise because he used the Swastika, which is a hindu holy symbol. Some BJP morons who live in the north think that means Hitler saw all Indians are honorary aryans.
If hitler existed today, he probably would have gassed 95% of indian people.
This is just what i can say about hitler and what indians think of him.
No.474614
>>474594>>474598Isn't the BJP a successor organisation to a Hitlerite org?
No.474639
>>306281Nigeria isn't even a monolithic culture lmao. For decades Nigerians have absorbed large ethnic populations from Mali, Niger, Chad and Cameroon. Its not "100% Nigerian" at all. The Hausa's original area of habitation has been spread across numerous countries but they were all separated into like 5 different countries after western colonialism came in and created arbitrary boundaries.
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>>474614It was born from the RSS which is a big umbrella organization of right wing hindus. Hedgewar, creator of the RSS, was pretty adamant about not giving into muslims. He did things to piss off muslims like playing music in front of mosques. The RSS eventually just turned into a Hindu Chauvinist gang that has elements of Hindu Supremacy. The BJP was created by the RSS and some other fringe right wing organizations that were banned during INC (the largest left wing party) rule.
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>>457572there are like a billion of non nazi esotericist ,in fact since occult is imported in most countries i doubt you will find many esoteric nazis outside of pol
Evola and guenon as far as i know wasnt into rituals and curses ,i think you messed with tik tok witches
No.486180
>>483048stfu wrecker cuck
No.486268
>>486180>his only contribution to a thread where everyone is contributing nicely to the subject at hand Cringe
No.492058
>>323509reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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