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 No.585204[View All]

This motherfucker is unironically what the most rabid of radlibs thought of Trump. Ethnonationalist, neo-Nazi, and anti-communist. Worst of all are his debating skills. He isn't just devastating at debates, he does them in a way that makes you have to come to the conclusions yourself without him having to tell you what they are. He walks you 90% of the way through his fucked up beliefs and then makes you connect the final dots like it was your own viewpoint.

Add to the fact that he is as smart as Trump thinks he is and I really worry about a potential Macron/Zemmour election in France because Macron is way to passive to take on Zemmour in the debates whereas all he has to do for a Macron/Le Pen debate is give her enough rope to hang herself with.

What are leftpol's thoughts on the Nazi goblin man?
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 No.593146

>>586431
>Why do you hate third world countries? Braindrain is killing these countries and we can't afford welfare for all them. People who are pro-immigration are people who just want the collapse of their own nation.
People who are "anti-immigration" are still effectively "pro-immigration", as these two things are nothing more then a false dichotomy for what is a singular system of things. To even argue in regards to "anti-immigration" policy is to wholly misunderstand the relation between the state and the economy, and seeing it as some kind of genuine mediatior of capitalism rather then a monopoly on violence that functions as a tool of class rule. The whole immigration debate is one giant red herring that obfuscates the actual realtions of capitalism, and the fact that you can honestly state support for lobbying and trusting the bourgeoisie government to consiquentially engage in policy allegedly antithetical to itself means you still have liberal brainworms that you refuse to address. Hungary and it's continued flow of immigration despite said "policy" should already be proof enough to you, but apparently you all fall for SocDem logic the very minute immigration becomes a topic.

 No.593151

>>593110
not the gentile-stan
>In Nazi Germany, the corporations already dominated from the get go, and so could just hit the peddle full throttle in regards to their interests and the growth of their industries. In Fascist Italy, the government played footsies with said corporations that had them constantly have to bargain and offer up things to them to get even the bare minimum done, with the whole thing being a squabble of differing bourgeoisie interests within the government and "out" of it.
This is probaby because Germany had a successful bourgeois revolution whereas Italy's was put down and independence from Austria led directly to the Kingdom of Italy. The bourgeois did not have complete power, resulting in the constant faffing around to appease the bourgeoisie, while maintaining a monarchy/dictatorship.
Also, to be fair, I dont know much about Italy post roman empire. perhaps I should read up on it

 No.593152

>>585317
>Ancaps are just mask-on fascists
Imagine my shock

 No.593155

>>585650
Hot take
Nobody is white

 No.593169

>>593155
Galaxy brain take: Anybody to the south of me isn't white

 No.593171

>>593110
>>593151
Also Nazi Germany didn't really engage in corporatism, at least in the sense of creating official bodies to represent capitalists operating in certain sectors of the economy. This was only true for agriculture plus a single official trade union was created, but nothing else.

 No.593172

>>593155
That's true though. Whites have been mutts since the beginning.

 No.593175

>>593171
>Also Nazi Germany didn't really engage in corporatism
Never said they did. Bourgeoisie domination was far more direct, there was really no need for anything like Italian "corporations".

 No.621507

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX5oGShopDU
Frenchies, is the situation over there really this bad? I thought we were fucked here in Germany but Jesus Christ…

 No.624062

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8IGBDK1BH8
He announced. This vid is a fucking masterpiece. He’d going to win…

 No.624076

>>624062
Cringe

 No.645701

>>585513
>>585513
> the PSL dude from the Empire Files
Do you mean Mike Prysner, the most based man ever?

 No.646567

>>585204
Our lil cousins at /pol/ think because he's Jewish, he is there purposely to divide and conquer Le Pen voters.
But overall, he never really gave any real policies besides what makes the people rile up. So, he is definitely a populist. We won't know his other motivations, but I am sure it would include supporting Israel.

Overall, I am not too worried. I think Macron would easily win if it was just the two of them.
Frenchies are not burgers.

 No.646572

>>646567
>Our lil cousins at /pol/ think because he's Jewish, he is there purposely to divide and conquer Le Pen voters.
I think it'd be funny if that were true, but no one believes /pol/ in the end because they've cried wolf about the Jews too much. It'd be like a South Park episode.

 No.646573

>>646572
It's ironic that places like /pol/ filled with a combination of edgelords having a joke and gayops+retards who thought it was serious, have cried wolf so much it just lends credibility to the pro-zionist claim of oppression
Useful idiots.

 No.646574

>>646567

I also think it's a bit suspicious, because he's guaranteed to spoil Le Pen. Seems to me like a way to dissent among the constantly-growing ranks of french reaction, similar to the Clintons encouraging Donald Trump's presidential run in 2016.

 No.646624

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>>646573
I was just looking at some pictures of Zemmour rallies and his party's website. I think he's bad and his ideas are bad, but the whole situation is also kinda funny to me. He is like an anti-Semitic person's caricature of a Jewish guy who trying to trick a bunch of gullible morons with spectacle that I almost admire it like you would admire a good liar.

 No.646627

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EU is the main reason why France has more power than its size. Surely French military and civilian officials would make it extremely for him to sabotage the European project?

 No.646630

>>646627
Extremely difficult*

 No.646642

>>646574
>I also think it's a bit suspicious, because he's guaranteed to spoil Le Pen. Seems to me like a way to dissent among the constantly-growing ranks of french reaction, similar to the Clintons encouraging Donald Trump's presidential run in 2016.
This didn't make sense a few weeks ago when you were proposing it and it still doesn't make sense now, anon. Go and see how elections work.Whichever gets to the second round will be supported by the other.

 No.646647

>>646642
I know how french elections work; fact is that campaigning against each other may involve attacks on one another, which would reduce the likelihood of a given reactionary frenchie to come out for the other candidate. For example, if Le Pen tries to paint him as "foreign" due to his algerian background, and then doesn't make it to the second round, some disgruntled voters might just stay home.

also i haven't posted about this before

 No.646833

>>646624
>token asian guy and Arab in the back

 No.646981

Fuck France

 No.647934

Lol Solidarność has just written a favorable op-ed on Zemmour in their magazine. They said : "Rural conservatives are counting on you, Monsieur Zemmour !"
They also interviewed Marine Le Pen.
Really makes one think.

 No.647956

**I'm not scared by Zemmour. Of course I hope that he loses, and in truth I would much rather see Macron win a second time. But what makes Zemmour dangerous isn't what he appears to be. What scares me about Zemmour is what mere his presence represents.
Zemmour is not a neo-Nazi or a fascist. He doesn't truly believe in what he preaches. He doesn't threaten any liberal democratic institutions - if anything, it's the opposite. His purpose is to pacify the populace, by telling them what they want and giving it to them in a controlled and safe manner. He wins debates because he is allowed to.
What Zemmour really represents is impotence. He represents the failure of the Yellow Vests, and of the left. If he wins, we will see more Zemmours in the future. If he loses, we will see more Zemmours in the future. What Zemmour represents is the void in the political space that he is filling in.**

 No.647960

>>646624
> He is like an anti-Semitic person's caricature of a Jewish guy who trying to trick a bunch of gullible morons with spectacle that I almost admire it like you would admire a good liar.
yeah, exactly
/pol/tards will get fucked over by another zionist

 No.648029

>>647956
>What Zemmour really represents is impotence.
Good post. I think the only rational response to Zemmour is total cynicism. It won't help at all, but neither will Zemmour, and at least you'll keep your dignity.

 No.648034

>>647956

based post

 No.648086

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>>646624

 No.648098

>>648086
Ahhh… l'amour…

 No.648101

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 No.648103

NOOOOOOO LEMOUR NOOOOOOOOO DON'T DO IT LEMOUR

 No.648108

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Pics of the neo-Nazi group "La Famille Gallicane" who are supporting Zemmour. This group recently filmed themselves shooting at racist caricatures of blacks and Jews. But Zemmour is… uhh… well never mind

Is this whole thing a glow op? The answer, probably.

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 No.649826

>>647934
the eternal pole

 No.649973

>>648108
>to show the their devotion to nazi beliefs neo nazis have decided to shoot racist depiction of black and Jewish males while worshiping a black Jewish male

 No.649978

>>647956
Uhhh
Wouldn’t that mean what Zemmour represents is porky EU cucks tearing off the mask and replacing the “nice” fascism of neoliberalism with the bullet and the whip?

 No.650011

>>649978
No, you fucking idiot. Don't twist my words with your bullshit.

 No.650022

>>649978
Zemmour is backed by the billionaire Vincent Bolloré who shares his idpol and own several medias.

 No.652978

>>646833
the arab is front and center, actually

 No.653028

>>650022
Ce n’est supris pas pour moi ou chaque joue en France.

 No.653311

Wont he just split and divide the far right though?

 No.653321

>>653311
Non, les politics de France est tres reactionarie en temp modern. Personnes aiment Zemmour meme recevoit le chance c’est un probleme avec France, non juste le chance ou les chances de l’autres aiment son gagnent les elections

 No.653493

>>647956
Unusual objectivity for this sphere.

 No.653528

France is already a capitalist imperialist power based on global exploitation and national subjegation. France is already ruled by destructive fascist cliques—all of which will happily crush the vast majority who identify them as a cause of their problems. All of the French bourgeoise factions (and these factions range from the fascist headcrackers from the French social-democratic parties which were in power to Neoliberals and far-right) are heading towards a state which oppresses the people with military force. Zemmour is just a continuation of Petain's pro-German clique that has subsisted off of American cash from Gladio onwards in the form of the National Front and various rightist terror groups.

This means that it is power of capitalism's dictatorship (the overall anti-democratic bourgeoise state) should be the main target of anti-fascism, as opposed this or that faction of the bourgeoisie. It's not like this is a revolutionary divergence from Dmitrov's line of the anti-fascist United Front being an organization lead by proles, but this characterization of the state as something to be opposed on the basis of it's anti-democratic character is a divergence from Marxism-Leninism into Marxism-Leninism-Maoism. I personally thinking in terms of Maoism help us evaluate contradictions far more than thinking in the terms of peaceful coexistence and reform offered by Trotskyists and Brehznev apologists.

 No.653529

>>646981
b-b-but my patriotic social democracy..

 No.653530

phone posting god will forgive my typos

 No.653536

>>648101
that guy is cute

 No.653537

>>653311
yes he is deployed to take away votes from le pen
macron and others are unaffected

 No.665103

>>586333
>that vid

I laugh and then I remember that this is how most conservatives see the world.


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