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 No.591353[View All]

"Westernoids will never get this" thread.

I'll start: picrel.

Post more shit that non-Eastern-bloc faggots will NEVER get.

Let's focus on fucking Eastern-KINO these mother fuckers never even heard of.
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 No.598539

>wastes time watching movies when he could be reading
smdh fam

 No.598546

>>598528
Да нет. Видимо, что он—долбоеб.

 No.598830

Not Eastern Bloc, but here's the famous "impossible shot" from the 1964 film "Soy Cuba."

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 No.603105

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596110
>Pražská pětka
This movie ​consists of five parts. The first part is some sort of arthouse pantomime about a family on a trip which is stalked by a dwarf who lives in trashcan (the dwarf is an obvious parody on a character from DDR tv show "Der Sandmännchen")

The second and fourth parts are some sort of avantgarde art I haven't really understood.

The third part is about young worker who tries to get a gasket and feeding for chickens, which seems impossible because there is deficit of everything. When everything backfires he blackmails his boss with informing the ministry about the situation, so the boss gets him the gasket and the chicken feed.

The fifth part is a parody on the "building" movies from 1950s. It's a story about the "socialist youth" organization helping on the collective farm.

The whole movie is hosted by a specialist (who is just an actor) who describes the scenes you are supposed to see with common ideological phrases like "petit bourgeois relicts", "need for restructuring" etc. It is supposed to be a satire on tv hosts of that time.

The movie is a typical product of perestroika. a lot of hidden criticisms of "the system" but not openly anti communist

 No.603201

>>598546
точно

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 No.603304

>>591450
>see liveleak
>see guns
oh no aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalbania is safe. westerners dont get it

 No.603542

>>603304
link a single based Albanian Kino

 No.603905

>Hroch/ The Hippopotamus (1973)
This movie was supposed to mock the "Prague Spring" and its politicians. It is heavily inspired by Dostoyevsky's novel "The Crocodile".

In some unspecified country, a hippopotamus falls ill at the zoo in the same time when the government is undergoing a major reconstruction. The state bank refuses to provide gold to repair the hippo's teeth, which will be used by a group of ambitious manipulators to provoke mass hysteria, which is supposed to strengthen the power of the new Minister Borovec. The bank sends an accountant Bedřich Hroch to the zoo to check the situation, but he gets devoured by the hippopotamus.

The accountant continues to live inside the animal and communicate with his surroundings , which makes it look like the hippo is talking. An attempt to take advantage of this unusual phenomenon to take power in the state by the Borovec clique fails when the animal throws the accountant out in front od of a crowd.

 No.604080

>Za volantem nepřítel/ The Enemy behind the Steering Wheel (1974)

The plot of the film is set in the summer months of 1968 and the main plot line is the match between the director of the Prague taxi service Mudroch and the supporters of the "Prague Spring", who first try to remove him from office as a die-hard communist and then kill him.

In addition to this story,there are also scenes of what is happening on the streets of Prague or in entertainment companies, and there are also images of representatives of the "reform process" and how they communicate their views to the media.
For example:
07:32
"We are for marxism. But we need to find a new version of it, because the leninist conception is not suitable for our country. Our society is highly advanced and cultural and we need to find a model adequate for every individual"

 No.609811

>>591456
i like john rambo rocky

 No.617151

epic only eastern euros will understand this momentum

 No.619723

Saakyants moment

 No.619762

>>617151
Is this against western Media because I don't understand Russian

 No.619787

It's always strange that people try to paint Soviet era culture as a preserve of the "east" when the USSR was the most westernising force in the history of Eastern Europe.
Reeks of an inversion of nazi "Asian Bolshevism" tropes.

 No.619790

>>619787
If anything they invented Eastern modernity that differed significantly from Western modernity in key aspects.

>Reeks of an inversion of nazi "Asian Bolshevism" tropes.

I could play this game as well and call you Euro-centric, but that won't bring us any closer to the truth of the matter.

 No.619796

>>619790
Marxism-Leninism is a product of the best thinkers and struggles in European history and has proven to be a worldwide tool for proletarian liberation. If that makes me eurocentric so be it. The USSR was not "Eastern" or "Western", these are terms for idealist fools, but socialist and proletarian.

 No.619812

>>619796
>Marxism-Leninism is a product of the best thinkers and struggles in European history and has proven to be a worldwide tool for proletarian liberation.
Except, you know, in the West…

 No.619817

>>619812
That's because those countries are the imperialist powers and will be the last places on earth where the proletarian revolution triumphs. Countries like Britain and America will likely have to be blockaded. But even in these Western European countries communist parties based on Marxist Leninist organisation have proven to be the only force capable of organising the proletariat, presenting a threat to the bourgeoisie. The French Communist Party was the leading force in the resistance to fascism, the PCE was the party most heavily suppressed in fascist Spain for a reason, the Portuguese Communist Party led the overthrow of the fascist regime in 1974.

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>>619762
more like against addiction to watching TV

it was a big topic in the late USSR

 No.619838

>>619787
>when the USSR was the most westernising force in the history of Eastern Europe.
literally how

 No.619843

>>619838
Latinised many languages for starters. Did away with the obscurantism of the orthodox and Catholic churches. Had a true philosophy that traces its history based on the thought of materialists and dialecticians from ancient Greece to modern France and Germany. Saw itself as part of the world revolution, not an isolated "Eastern force".

 No.619865

>>591677
lol at this bad understanding of Kant

Yes, the aesthetic judgement is UNIVERSAL but it is also SUBJECTIVE. Judgement of taste is the SUBJECTIVE UNIVERSAL meaning that such judgement carries with it the weight of the universal but it originates from the subject making the judgement and does not belong to the object judged to be beautiful. As I will quote directly from the critique of judgement.

>Accordingly he will speak of the beautiful as if beauty were a feature of the object and the judgement were logical (forming a cognition of the object by concepts of it); although it is only aesthetic, and contains merely a reference of the representation of the object to the subject;—because it still bears this resemblance to the logical judgement, that it may be presupposed to be valid for everyone. But this universality cannot spring from concepts. For from concepts there is no transition to the feeling of pleasure or displeasure (save in the case of pure practical laws, which, however, carry an interest with them; and such an interest does not attach to the pure judgement of taste). The result is that the judgement of taste, with its attendant consciousness of detachment from all interest, must involve a claim to validity for everyone, and must do so apart from a universality directed to objects, i.e. there must be coupled with it a claim to subjective universality.

and
>Now a judgement that has objective universal validity has always got the subjective also, i.e. if the judgement is valid for everything which is contained under a given concept, it is valid also for all who represent an object by means of this concept. But from a subjective universal validity, i.e. the aesthetic, that does not rest on any concept, no conclusion can be drawn to the logical; because judgements of that kind have no bearing upon the object. But for this very reason the aesthetic universality attributed to a judgement must also be of a special kind, seeing that it does not join the predicate of beauty to the concept of the object taken in its entire logical sphere, and yet does extend this predicate over the whole sphere of judging subjects.

Yet there is another reason your disagreement with the other anon can't be defended using Kant - because Kant never claimed that the subjective taste of the senses is invalid or false, he simply distinguished two different types of tastes, the one where you purely enjoy something or not and the one where you consider something to be universally beautiful. It absolutely cannot be that only the second type of taste exists. Ever meet a person who considers every single minor preference to be somehow objectively valid for everyone? They are insufferable, quoting again.

>For in respect of the agreeable everyone is allowed to have his own opinion, and no one insists upon others agreeing with his judgement of taste, which is what is invariably done in the judgement of taste about beauty. The first of these I may call the taste of the senses, the second, the taste of reflection: the first laying down judgements merely private, the second, on the other hand, judgements ostensibly of general (public) validity, but both alike being aesthetic (not practical) judgements about an object merely in respect of the bearings of its representation on the feeling of pleasure or displeasure. Now it does seem strange that while with the taste of the senses experience not only shows that its judgement (of pleasure or displeasure in something) is not universally valid, but everyone willingly refrains from imputing this agreement to others (despite the frequent actual prevalence of a considerable consensus of general opinion even in these judgements), the taste of reflection, which, as experience teaches, has often enough to put up with a dismissal of its claims to the universal validity of its judgement (upon the beautiful), can (as it actually does) find it possible for all that, to formulate judgements capable of demanding this agreement in its universality. Such agreement it does in fact require from everyone for each of its judgements of taste—the persons who pass these judgements not quarrelling over the possibility of such a claim, but only failing in particular cases to come to terms as to the correct application of this faculty.

 No.620004

>>619843
>Latinised many languages for starters.
they literally didn't latinize any eastern european language. that was with caucasus, central-asia and the indigenous nations of siberia (and only in 1920s)

>Saw itself as part of the world revolution, not an isolated "Eastern force".

none of the eastern european nations viewed themselves as "isolated eastern force" because that wasn't possible these nations were always under the influence of some other nation either due occupation Germany and Austria were influenced Poland and Czechia, Romania was under the influnce of France due to its aristocracy, similar thing with Bolgaria its royal family and England (and also Germany and Russia in this case).

 No.620122

>>591552
>tfw there will never be a blu-ray release of October: Ten Days That Shook The World (1928)
>>591553
Dziga Vertov is great; I'd recommend Mikhail Kalatozov's films too.

 No.620124

>>620004
The Caucasus is part of Europe. There were also plans to Latinise the Slavic languages for simplification but they were dropped.
These countries were on a mass basis not linked to western Europe. The aristocrats of Russia may have spoken French, but there was a great distance between the workers of Eastern and western Europe which the USSR bridged through comintern

 No.624252

>>617151
>>619723
this kind of perestroika cartoons were based

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 No.626026

>>603542
Not that anon but here's a few:

>Përrallë nga e kaluara/14 vjec dhëndërr (A Tale from the Past/14 Year Old Groom)

A poor farming family gets a 28 year old girl to marry their son so they could have an extra hand on the farm. The film mostly concerns marriage traditions and the bride doing her best not to get married off. Pretty good movie and a well-known classic today but I don't think you can find a version with English subtitles, although I did see one with French subtitles. I rate it a 7/10

>Shtigje Lufte (Paths of War)

A film about partisans the region of Peza during WW2, which was where many important events happened for the communist resistance. Dramatic and well-written but pretty old compared to the other films and rather generic when compared to the many, many Albanian films about partisans. Still worth a watch if you have time, this film also has English subtitles. 7/10

>Kapedani (Captain)

In this film, an old former partisan gets used to a rapidly modernizing Albania. Much of the film centers around the old partisan's conflicts with feminism in the new Albania as well as the changes brought on by a new wave of revolutionary thinking. Very comedic and an absolute classic, even if it's not as well known today as it should be. I would definitely recommend a watch if you can find a version with subtitles or know Albanian. 9/10

>Shembja e Idhujve (Collapse of the Idols)

A film about a teacher being sent up into the mountains to educate the people of the mountain clans during the Zog era. There he is caught in between clan conflicts and eventually finds himself being plotted against by the local police chief and friar. Nonetheless, he continues his attempts to both teach the clansmen and form some resistance against the coming Italian invasion. Also underrated, very well written, and you can find a version with English subtitles. 8/10, maybe 8.5/10

>Skenderbeu (Skanderbeg)

A film about one of Albania's kings and the unofficial founder of the Albanian nation, Skanderbeg. The film gives Skanderbeg's background and covers many famous battles of his as well as his conflict against the Ottomans (who symbolize reactionary forces) and Venice (who symbolize capitalist forces). One of, if not the, oldest Albanian film and also one of the best, winning international awards and great popularity among the Albanian people. Good acting, good writing, great battle scenes, and just generally a classic. Many versions with English subtitles are out there so give it a watch, although it may be better if you know a bit about the history. A completely biased 10/10 from me

 No.642304

>Zítra vstanu a opařím se čajem / Tommorrow I will wake up and scald myself with tea (1977)

Czech comedy about former nazis trying to get Hitler an H-bomb with the help of a time machine.

 No.642416

>>591582
Why is the movement so fluid? Is this rotoscoping?

 No.642453

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>>619723
no fucking way bros… they predicted it

 No.642454

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Clinic (1993) — Ukrainian short horror cartoon

 No.645397

>>642453
Just like they predicted the Chad vs chinlet >>>/hobby/20202

 No.645425

>implying this whole thread wasn't made by some western film student, the most western westerner of them all

 No.645550

>>620122
>tfw there will never be a blu-ray release of October: Ten Days That Shook The World (1928)
W8, doesn't Criterion sell it already?

>>645425
Stfu, drug addict. If you are a commie you should enjoy and obsessively watch Eastern bloc movies.

 No.650196

even movies for children were fuckin arthouse back in 1970s/80s

 No.650221

Redchadpill theory.

 No.650225

>>650221

Απόδειξη του θεωρήματος.

 No.653956

>>642454
this one is also great…

 No.663907

>>650221
what does he say?

 No.691156

this thread deserves more attention

 No.691277

>>619817
>Greek ML parties march with golden dawn because they're "working class"
>Chinese ML party filled with the richest exploiters in east asian
>African ML parties filled with shariah cucks
🥱 🥱 🥱 🥱
Marxism-Leninism is dead son. Grow up and find an ideology that isn't irrelevant and totally recuperated by porky please.

 No.691337

>>691277
>Greek ML parties march with golden dawn because they're "working class"
Source or didn't happen.
>Chinese ML party filled with the richest exploiters in east asian
Chinese ML party is also filled with its left-wing. Calling for its dissolution when Chinese comrades can try and change things for the better is stupid.
>African ML parties filled with shariah cucks
Source or didn't happen.

 No.691339

>>691277
>Grow up and find an ideology that isn't irrelevant and totally recuperated by porky please.
But what ideology would that be?

 No.691344

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>>691339
>But what ideology would that be?
We'll have to take a trip to the supermarket and find something. I heard they're having a sale on Anarcho-Bolshevism With Ecuadorian Characteristics.

 No.691350

what about the current (2020s) artistic avan-garde ?

 No.691375

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>>691344
>a leftcom of all people thinking picking the right ideology is how you get to socialism
>leftcom telling other people to find a not irrelevant ideology
Are you the other anon because I'm confused lmao

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>>691344

come to the gas station


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