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File: 1636524335066.jpg (53.16 KB, 500x357, kin-dza-dza.jpg)

 No.591353[Last 50 Posts]

"Westernoids will never get this" thread.

I'll start: picrel.

Post more shit that non-Eastern-bloc faggots will NEVER get.

Let's focus on fucking Eastern-KINO these mother fuckers never even heard of.

 No.591355

>>591353
for developmentally challenged Westernoids: OP's picrel is from the Eastern movie "Kin Dza Dza!"

 No.591357

File: 1636524565649.jpg (184.3 KB, 843x1217, 71PkivaNR9L._SL1217_.jpg)

Moving on… Polish-socialist KINO: SEXMISSION https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexmission which should be mandatory viewing for every Western incel.

 No.591365

File: 1636524890493.jpeg (7.12 KB, 268x188, letöltés (3).jpeg)

…moving on:
CZECH AVANTGARDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7abCEq0Qla4
FUCKING SVANKMAJER, YOU PIGS!!!!!!!!!

 No.591370

REMINDER, WESTERNOIDS, THAT YOUR MOVIE INDUSTRY AFFORDED >>>>>>>>LESS<<<<<<<< FREEDUMBS TO YOUR OWN MOVIE MAKERS THAN THE USSR DID!!!

 No.591391

File: 1636525627992.jpg (256.39 KB, 855x1200, Árvácska 01.jpg)

Nobody's Daughter (film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobody%27s_Daughter_(film)

IN THIS MOVIE:
>fucking total poverty is portrayed, as it happened inside the Horthy-era
>our protagonist is like an 8-year old kid who knows nothin about nothin
>Horthy's government offers up a singular cash payment to parents willing to adopt left children
>it happens
>they use said children as slave workers
>uygha little child doesn't even own a facking clothe
>completely fucking brutal representation of human poverty
<anglos be like: NOOOOOOOOOO! YOU CAN NOT SHOW A FUCKING NAKED CHILD TO ARTISTICALLY REPRESENT ACTUAL DESTITUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2389756
welcome to non-anglo adulthood, bitch

 No.591393

File: 1636525788116-0.jpg (119.98 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg)

>anything by Tarkovsky
Westernoid be like: "wut?!"

 No.591402

Eastern cinema be like:
>war is hell
>hell makes people become devoid of humanity
Westernoid viewers be like:
<yah, but where's the ACTION SCENE?!

 No.591413

im western and i know about kin dza dza. every western film midwit soyfaces over mosfilm shit hard

 No.591415

In summation, in terms of quality, ethics, and aesthetics:
Total output by Hollywood < total output by Eastern bloc

 No.591421

>>591402
>war is le bad

 No.591422

>>591413
You agree that you are a rare gem among pigs, right?

 No.591424

>>591421
it is, you humongoues memeing fag

 No.591426

File: 1636526475077.png (217.62 KB, 1240x1568, 1634513045621-4.png)

>>591421
>war is le good

 No.591433

>be communist revolutionary
>bring revolutionary spirit to backward shitholes

 No.591434


 No.591436

>>591422
i guess. even the midwits wouldn’t know or care much about kin dza dza ig

 No.591444

The First Teacher (1965)
>a fucking autist communist untrained teacher is sent into the depths of Uzbekistan's most retarded village segment, where he is tested… He faces muh religion, and muh tradition, to finally say: "FUCK ALL OF THIS SHIT," and project the actually rightful resolution: atheism, communism, kill-all-idiocy-ism

includes underage tits, which, according to our current vols, means pro-pedophilia, so be warned, westernoid, lmao

 No.591449

https://youtube.com/channel/UCTKpdDNg-FgqRDg7TbIOgoQ reminder you can stream (most) this stuff on youtube

 No.591450

File: 1636527052194.mp4 (17.9 MB, 480x360, albania.mp4)


 No.591456

File: 1636527208477.jpeg (76.68 KB, 660x979, letöltés (4).jpeg)

Ethically speaking:
Eastern kino > Western kino
Cinematographycally speaking:
Eastern kino > Western kino
Narratologically speaking:
Eastern kino > Western kino



Meanwhile, Westoids have like… picrel

 No.591465

File: 1636527444511-1.jpeg (7.76 KB, 184x274, letöltés (5).jpeg)

Solaris (USSR) compared to Solaris (USA).

 No.591475

Tarkovsky's Stalker (USSR) vs. """Stalker""" vidoe game (Russa)

 No.591478

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File: 1636528180229-1.jpg (22.12 KB, 314x445, 51C tkMYt4L._SY445_.jpg)

Romeo, Julie a tma
literally: the best Shakespeare adaptation comes from Soviet-bloc

 No.591496

good morning, fags

 No.591497

>>591475
Stalker was Ukrainian. Which makes it worse.

 No.591499

File: 1636529206991.png (263.24 KB, 857x561, t. eastern-euro.png)


 No.591500

>be Carpathian
>witness this

 No.591509


 No.591513

>>591393
> Я животное, ты же видишь, я животное. У меня нет слов, меня не научили словам, я не умею думать, эти гады не дали мне научиться думать. Но если ты на самом деле такой всемогущий, всесильный, всепонимающий разберись! Загляни в мою душу, я знаю, там есть все, что тебе надо. Должно быть. Душу-то ведь я никогда и никому не продавал! Она моя, человеческая! Вытяни из меня сам, чего же я хочу, — ведь не может же быть, чтобы я хотел плохого!.. Будь оно все проклято, ведь я ничего не могу придумать, кроме этих его слов: СЧАСТЬЕ ДЛЯ ВСЕХ, ДАРОМ, И ПУСТЬ НИКТО НЕ УЙДЕТ ОБИЖЕННЫЙ!

 No.591516

>>591513
<I am an animal, you see, I am an animal. I have no words, they didn’t teach me words, I don’t know how to think, these bastards didn’t let me learn to think. But if you are really so omnipotent, omnipotent, all-understanding, figure it out! Look into my soul, I know everything you need is there. It should be. I never sold my soul to anyone! She is mine, human! Pull out of me what I want - after all, it cannot be that I want something bad! .. Damn it all, because I can think of nothing but these words of his: HAPPINESS FOR ALL, FOR FREE, AND LET NOBODY THE OFFENSIVE WILL NOT LEAVE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzusS_RnEPE&list=OLAK5uy_lxOUVa2tizKs5RuJEl0K-qLE9xjzmPT0o
<3
Our civilization will remain.

 No.591518

Mladý holky
NYIKKERS
Mladý holky
NYIKKERS

 No.591522

File: 1636530744447-0.jpg (33.05 KB, 257x360, 1120.jpg)

File: 1636530744447-1.jpg (278.14 KB, 800x453, jiri-barta-krysar.jpg)


 No.591523

>>591475
>tfw was filtered by stalker
I really wanted to like it.. maybe when I rewatch it,
>>591465
the book was great

 No.591524


 No.591533

Eastern bloc (aka "AES" society") was literally superior in science, culture, and in every fucking way.

 No.591535

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 No.591536

>>591357
It's that movie where they fuck up the cloning plant in the end to start producing male babies? Oh wow, I watched this stuff as a kid and thought it was an american movie. God it was an amazing watch for me.

 No.591537

Anyone else Nu Pagadi Gang here?

 No.591538

>>591391
So the Eastern-bloc was better because child porn was legal?

 No.591539

>>591536
>It's that movie where they fuck up the cloning plant in the end to start producing male babies?
spoiler: "they" – meaning the males traveling in time – don't "fuck up" the reproduction line, they actually sabotage it, resulting in MALE babies. I would post pictures of the last scenes, but our anglo mods would ban me for "pedo shit" or whatever.

 No.591541

>>591538
>child porn is when artistic expression allows artists to capture naked children n' shiet
t. anglo

 No.591542

>>591465
Solaris (US version) was fucking kino. Especially the part where Insane Clown Posse was blasting in the background (no joke this really happened).

 No.591544

>>591433
>Fatimah, show your face!
<reveals a bearded man

This movie gave birth to so many jokes

>>591391
>Horthy's government offers up a singular cash payment to parents willing to adopt left children
>it happens
>they use said children as slave workers

Literally a pro-small-business hand-out in effect, lol. I assume it was an intentional set up by the Horthy govt, to incentivize more child labor

 No.591545

>>591542
>Solaris (US version) was fucking kino
pleb

 No.591546

>>591539
I meant "fuck up" as a "sabotage". Thank you.

 No.591547

>>591544
>Literally a pro-small-business hand-out in effect, lol. I assume it was an intentional set up by the Horthy govt, to incentivize more child labor
watch the movie, comrade

 No.591549

>>591546
lal salam n' shiet

 No.591552

ETERNAL CLASSIC

 No.591553

Man with a Movie Camera (Russian: Человек с кино-аппаратом), 1929

AVANTGARDE KINO

 No.591555

Heron and Crane (1974)

 No.591557

Schnittke on animation ACID

 No.591559

A guy with a cinema fetish brings civilization to cowboy barbarians. It's pretty much older Soviet movies about communists improving culture in villages, but in American decorations.

 No.591561

>>591559
I'm OP and so far I've only posted shit that could pass "artistic standards," therefore your shit is deemed "meh" at best by me.

 No.591563

>>591557
skip to 05:50 if you are retarded for Schnittke KINO

 No.591564

>>591421
What the fuck did you think the great patriotic war was like, especially as a civilian? Wars aren’t heroic, even if they’re necessary.

 No.591565

>>591564
>What the fuck did you think the great patriotic war was like, especially as a civilian?
Good times all around, for real. Having a war is very comfy. ;^)

 No.591566

>>591561
Your OP is

>"Westernoids will never get this"


Westernoids would most likely never see this movie. Although I think I've seen movies like this one made in USA. They don't get to have idealist protagonists who want to bring progress to the masses, though. Promethean motiffs don't exist under capitalism, or get laughed at

 No.591568

>>591565
Я тебя поставлю раком

 No.591570

>>591568
>I will bend you over

What did he mean by this

 No.591571

>>591566
>Westernoids would most likely never see this movie
The point of this thread is to prove to the "Western eye" that AES culture was and will continue to be superior to their Hollywood shit. These

>Promethean motiffs don't exist under capitalism

Yeah, no shit. These faggots can not even get to "motifs" exactly because they are in eternal po-mo mode. The best you can do is to remind them that truth exists, ffs. How fucked are we, comrade?

 No.591573

>>591570
Exactly what it sounds like

 No.591574

This is the best clip from russian Treasure Island (Остров Сокровищ)

 No.591575

>>591574
lmao, so this is where "where are proofs" webm comes from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 No.591582

>>591574
What a lack of funding (and no purges of artists of all kinds) does to an industry. Compare pre-1953 animation to everything afterwards

 No.591586

File: 1636534481791.jpg (670.41 KB, 1050x1500, vuk_plakat-B1-PREVIEW_.jpg)

SOCIALIST ANIMATION:
https://videa.hu/videok/film-animacio/vuk-NiY2vxD1fczsOdHt
>story about basic morals portrayed via foxes
>story about life and death
<I actually cried as a fuggen 6 yrs old when watching it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Fox

…regime change happens

CAPITALIST REMAKE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-fyWV0M5Kg
>Le original but with "rap" inserts
>fucking 3D shit
>literal money laundering scheme for the state-approved libs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fox%27s_Tale

"lol"

 No.591589

File: 1636534974482.jpeg (15.15 KB, 188x268, letöltés (6).jpeg)

>>591586
SOCIALIST ANIMATION:

>based as fuck social antagonism KINO about the protagonist "mice" vs. antagonist "cats"

>gets translated into 20 different languages, because it's so KINO
>enjoyable by 6 year olds and adults alike
>Iran makes it into a national movie that every anti-imperialist iranian children should enjoy
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6108624
<10/10

…regime change happens

>second version is basically dunking on American culture trash

>nobody laughs from the audience, ever
>"rap" music inserted, cuz why not (das wut hollywood does, innit?!%)
<2/10
https://videa.hu/videok/film-animacio/macskafogo-2-a-satan-macskaja-W622SnRC1g0y2XS0

 No.591590

I don't know if this counts, but the combination of vodka + cig voice and Soviet-style chord progression. That's the sound of the 76th Guards Air Assault Division. If those Azov Nazis ever made it into Donbass, these guys would stomp them into paste and it wouldn't even be a contest. Their ethos is kicking ass and chewing bubblegum.

 No.591591


 No.591592

>>591590
comrade, I'm sorry to be the first person to tell you that a horrible taste

 No.591593


 No.591595

>>591593
Нет

 No.591597


 No.591639

lol

 No.591653

>>591592
Yes but having horrible taste is better than having no taste.

 No.591655

>>591653
what is "taste" then?

Asking fo' real.

 No.591669

>>591655
It's a subjective concept. But to quote Italian designer Franco Moschino: "Good taste does not exist." It's better to embrace some bad taste and terrify other people with it like an unpredictable autocrat. Melt people's brains with your appearance. Be the Muammar Gaddafi you always wished to be.

 No.591677

>>591669
>taste is subjective
Here stands this picrel motherfucker who disagrees with your take. This picrel motherfucker basically says that disregarding where are you from, what upbringing you had, what sexual orientation, or whatever you PRETEND to hold, none of this shit matters.

Kant, when it comes to "A E S T H I C " basically proposes that no matter your particularities you might be beholden to or whatever, what ACTUALLY matters is you daring to DECLARE that this "X" artistic UNIT (or whatever) according to you is worthy of being conceived of "universally" acceptable.

For Kant, your particular shitty verdict means jack shit, unless it claims to be "universal:" WHEN YOU SAY that X is aesthetically bootifull, by that which you ought to mean that said "bootifullness" ought to be accessible to ANYONE.

 No.591678

File: 1636541007123.jpg (14.81 KB, 220x275, incel.jpg)

>>591677
>this picrel motherfucker
4got picc

 No.591684


 No.591685

>>591684
BROKE N' WOKE

 No.591774


 No.591790

Based thread lmao

 No.591815

>>591574
Vrungel is where its at.

 No.591824

Why are these threads so gratuitously belligerently to a certain group so funny lmao.

 No.591831

>>591465
That top pic is clearly from 2001: A Space Odyssy. It literally says so in the filename.

 No.591834

>>591391
>>591541
peedjeet detected

 No.591842

>>591444
>includes underage tits, which, according to our current vols, means pro-pedophilia, so be warned, westernoid, lmao
Where tf did that come from?
Is it sexualised naked children that you touch your cock alone in your room to? If so that is child pornography in the legal and categorical sense. You might make some stupid excuse about how pedophilia refers to attraction to pre-puburtal children but colloquially it is pedophilia if they are underage children any age under 18. Why are you bringing it up? Are you assmad someone called a pedo irl? Feel some guilt for relapsing and watching sex slave kids on tor again? This is supposed to be a movie thread you fucking "human" garbage. Contain yourself.

 No.591845

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>>591353
>"Westernoids will never get this"
I love how more than half of the shit here is shit that the average midwit western foreign tru film nerd would already know about.

"Ogniem i mieczem" and "Potop" are the best medieval eastern European movies out there btw

 No.591846

>>591842
wtf chill out autismo

 No.591848

>>591845
Also i think it's hilarious that some retard here is trying to show off the fact that their favourite film shows underage tits

 No.591893

File: 1636556496462-0.jpg (259.06 KB, 1920x1080, ddr_t72.jpg)

File: 1636556496462-1.png (300.2 KB, 448x768, hp49g4wgrkb71.png)

So everyone here is a westernoid, yes?

>>591845
Hearts of stone was based but blood and wine was even better. It is pretty rare to have a game where the expansions surpass the original game.

>>591848
From the distinctively insane writing style and implication of being Hungarian, it is very obviously gentile ginjeet whom has been on a one man crusade to try and normalize erotic child nudity and artistic freedom for the past few months for some reason. What a hero and a badass

I will post warthunder, it's pretty damn good for a ftp mmo. The mechanics and actual gameplay is superb and probably the best of the genre. The game is pretty grindy without spending money but not too pay to win.

 No.591894

>>591893
>Hearts of stone was based but blood and wine was even better. It is pretty rare to have a game where the expansions surpass the original game.
I just brought it up since the dlc references the duel scene in Potop

 No.591899

>>591845
Kino sword fight, its a shame they didn't use the take where the MC almost died

 No.591902

>>591894
Oh cool I see. I'll have a watch when I get chance to steal it, thanks.

 No.591921


 No.591925

>>591815
this is also a great song

 No.591928

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 No.591931

>>591393
First picture was a crime against storytelling. No, I refuse to elaborate :^)

 No.591932

>>591925
>Армэнфильм
>Саакианц
Да, это моё детство

Edit: Need English for foreign language posts here.

 No.591936

>>591893
>So everyone here is a westernoid, yes?
А не шёл б лесом, а?

 No.591947

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 No.591952

>>591544
>Fatimah
какая нахуй Фатима?! Гюльчатай было!

 No.591963

Russian Thread >>326202

 No.592081

czech movie about assasination of Heydrich. absolute classic

 No.592118

>>592105
what

 No.592119

>>591963
Я родился там, ублюдок :)))

 No.592180

>>591845
>Я родился там, ублюдок
Да неужели?

 No.593264

File: 1636600350667.jpg (161.78 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg)

> Eastern-KINO
Aachi & Ssipak was an anti-capitalist masterpiece before Korean anti-capitalist masterpieces have become cool

 No.593299

File: 1636602181142-0.jpg (144.3 KB, 800x536, 66082.jpg)

Cosmic Voyage, a 1935 sci-fi silent film that managed to depict space travel surprisingly realistically (it depicts weightlessness in space). Tsiolkovsky was involved in writing the script. Is sometimes contrasted with the Fritz Lang film "Woman on the Moon" because of a similar plot but with significant thematic differences:
>scientific pursuit vs seeking gold being the reason for space travel,
>the soviet rocket engineer being exalted by society while the german one suffers unrecognized and in poverty
>the soviet female cosmonaut is torn between the man she loves and space, while the german one is embroiled in a love triangle

 No.593302


 No.593453

Very bleak post-apocalyptic film.

 No.593526

This one is one of my favourites. Unironically way, way more fucking redpilled piece of media than anything ever produced in the west when it comes to critiquing the sham that is western "democracy". Just imagine if something like this was made now in US, which mercilessly portrayed both parties, all politicians, elites and "culture" stars, while intermixing gallow-humour displays of the missery actual average americans experiance daily.

 No.593561

>>591952
Fuck, sorry for the brain fart. Where did the Fatimah come from?

 No.593954

>>591932
>>593526
Sahakyants also made some anti soviet shit during perestroika
but I guess it was an ilness every artist suffered from during that time
(higher quality version but age restricted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvgZGNPZ64k )

 No.593957

>>593954
and this

 No.593960

>>593526
the song

 No.594410


 No.594463


 No.594509

>>594463
cringe

 No.594513

this is the real animation

 No.594605

>>591518
>The Plastic People of the Universe
their example shows how retarded the cultural policy in the eastern block was.

The trial with them for supposed "hooliganism" (which was a completely baseless accusation) only led to them sympathising with "dissidents". Before that they didn't care about politics

and the only way how propaganda of that time could defend this was whining about edgy young people with long hair. (vid related, it's TV programme from 1977 about The Plastic People called "The Attack on Culture")

 No.594675

Alright here's some music recommendations
Number one: Ha 3ape, produced in the late 80's by a really good singer in the USSR
Number two: Symphony of Factory sirens, avante garde explosion music with a siren rendition of the internationale at the end
Overall good music.

 No.595259

>>594463
what in the bananers chicken shit bollocks is this supposed to mean?

 No.596016

>>591500
That instrument looks a lot like the mountain dulcimer.

 No.596097

>>591402
Fucking liberal bullshit.

 No.596100

>>596097
I am sorry hyper-online ideologies took away your humanity, anon.

 No.596110

this movie is also "only eastern euros will understand this" moment

 No.598528

>>596097
Ты чё, ебанутый?

 No.598539

>wastes time watching movies when he could be reading
smdh fam

 No.598546

>>598528
Да нет. Видимо, что он—долбоеб.

 No.598830

Not Eastern Bloc, but here's the famous "impossible shot" from the 1964 film "Soy Cuba."

 No.602911


 No.603105

File: 1637198752623-0.jpeg (27.73 KB, 490x392, 5419746.jpeg)

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596110
>Pražská pětka
This movie ​consists of five parts. The first part is some sort of arthouse pantomime about a family on a trip which is stalked by a dwarf who lives in trashcan (the dwarf is an obvious parody on a character from DDR tv show "Der Sandmännchen")

The second and fourth parts are some sort of avantgarde art I haven't really understood.

The third part is about young worker who tries to get a gasket and feeding for chickens, which seems impossible because there is deficit of everything. When everything backfires he blackmails his boss with informing the ministry about the situation, so the boss gets him the gasket and the chicken feed.

The fifth part is a parody on the "building" movies from 1950s. It's a story about the "socialist youth" organization helping on the collective farm.

The whole movie is hosted by a specialist (who is just an actor) who describes the scenes you are supposed to see with common ideological phrases like "petit bourgeois relicts", "need for restructuring" etc. It is supposed to be a satire on tv hosts of that time.

The movie is a typical product of perestroika. a lot of hidden criticisms of "the system" but not openly anti communist

 No.603201

>>598546
точно

 No.603225


 No.603304

>>591450
>see liveleak
>see guns
oh no aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalbania is safe. westerners dont get it

 No.603542

>>603304
link a single based Albanian Kino

 No.603905

>Hroch/ The Hippopotamus (1973)
This movie was supposed to mock the "Prague Spring" and its politicians. It is heavily inspired by Dostoyevsky's novel "The Crocodile".

In some unspecified country, a hippopotamus falls ill at the zoo in the same time when the government is undergoing a major reconstruction. The state bank refuses to provide gold to repair the hippo's teeth, which will be used by a group of ambitious manipulators to provoke mass hysteria, which is supposed to strengthen the power of the new Minister Borovec. The bank sends an accountant Bedřich Hroch to the zoo to check the situation, but he gets devoured by the hippopotamus.

The accountant continues to live inside the animal and communicate with his surroundings , which makes it look like the hippo is talking. An attempt to take advantage of this unusual phenomenon to take power in the state by the Borovec clique fails when the animal throws the accountant out in front od of a crowd.

 No.604080

>Za volantem nepřítel/ The Enemy behind the Steering Wheel (1974)

The plot of the film is set in the summer months of 1968 and the main plot line is the match between the director of the Prague taxi service Mudroch and the supporters of the "Prague Spring", who first try to remove him from office as a die-hard communist and then kill him.

In addition to this story,there are also scenes of what is happening on the streets of Prague or in entertainment companies, and there are also images of representatives of the "reform process" and how they communicate their views to the media.
For example:
07:32
"We are for marxism. But we need to find a new version of it, because the leninist conception is not suitable for our country. Our society is highly advanced and cultural and we need to find a model adequate for every individual"

 No.609811

>>591456
i like john rambo rocky

 No.617151

epic only eastern euros will understand this momentum

 No.619723

Saakyants moment

 No.619762

>>617151
Is this against western Media because I don't understand Russian

 No.619787

It's always strange that people try to paint Soviet era culture as a preserve of the "east" when the USSR was the most westernising force in the history of Eastern Europe.
Reeks of an inversion of nazi "Asian Bolshevism" tropes.

 No.619790

>>619787
If anything they invented Eastern modernity that differed significantly from Western modernity in key aspects.

>Reeks of an inversion of nazi "Asian Bolshevism" tropes.

I could play this game as well and call you Euro-centric, but that won't bring us any closer to the truth of the matter.

 No.619796

>>619790
Marxism-Leninism is a product of the best thinkers and struggles in European history and has proven to be a worldwide tool for proletarian liberation. If that makes me eurocentric so be it. The USSR was not "Eastern" or "Western", these are terms for idealist fools, but socialist and proletarian.

 No.619812

>>619796
>Marxism-Leninism is a product of the best thinkers and struggles in European history and has proven to be a worldwide tool for proletarian liberation.
Except, you know, in the West…

 No.619817

>>619812
That's because those countries are the imperialist powers and will be the last places on earth where the proletarian revolution triumphs. Countries like Britain and America will likely have to be blockaded. But even in these Western European countries communist parties based on Marxist Leninist organisation have proven to be the only force capable of organising the proletariat, presenting a threat to the bourgeoisie. The French Communist Party was the leading force in the resistance to fascism, the PCE was the party most heavily suppressed in fascist Spain for a reason, the Portuguese Communist Party led the overthrow of the fascist regime in 1974.

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>>619762
more like against addiction to watching TV

it was a big topic in the late USSR

 No.619838

>>619787
>when the USSR was the most westernising force in the history of Eastern Europe.
literally how

 No.619843

>>619838
Latinised many languages for starters. Did away with the obscurantism of the orthodox and Catholic churches. Had a true philosophy that traces its history based on the thought of materialists and dialecticians from ancient Greece to modern France and Germany. Saw itself as part of the world revolution, not an isolated "Eastern force".

 No.619865

>>591677
lol at this bad understanding of Kant

Yes, the aesthetic judgement is UNIVERSAL but it is also SUBJECTIVE. Judgement of taste is the SUBJECTIVE UNIVERSAL meaning that such judgement carries with it the weight of the universal but it originates from the subject making the judgement and does not belong to the object judged to be beautiful. As I will quote directly from the critique of judgement.

>Accordingly he will speak of the beautiful as if beauty were a feature of the object and the judgement were logical (forming a cognition of the object by concepts of it); although it is only aesthetic, and contains merely a reference of the representation of the object to the subject;—because it still bears this resemblance to the logical judgement, that it may be presupposed to be valid for everyone. But this universality cannot spring from concepts. For from concepts there is no transition to the feeling of pleasure or displeasure (save in the case of pure practical laws, which, however, carry an interest with them; and such an interest does not attach to the pure judgement of taste). The result is that the judgement of taste, with its attendant consciousness of detachment from all interest, must involve a claim to validity for everyone, and must do so apart from a universality directed to objects, i.e. there must be coupled with it a claim to subjective universality.

and
>Now a judgement that has objective universal validity has always got the subjective also, i.e. if the judgement is valid for everything which is contained under a given concept, it is valid also for all who represent an object by means of this concept. But from a subjective universal validity, i.e. the aesthetic, that does not rest on any concept, no conclusion can be drawn to the logical; because judgements of that kind have no bearing upon the object. But for this very reason the aesthetic universality attributed to a judgement must also be of a special kind, seeing that it does not join the predicate of beauty to the concept of the object taken in its entire logical sphere, and yet does extend this predicate over the whole sphere of judging subjects.

Yet there is another reason your disagreement with the other anon can't be defended using Kant - because Kant never claimed that the subjective taste of the senses is invalid or false, he simply distinguished two different types of tastes, the one where you purely enjoy something or not and the one where you consider something to be universally beautiful. It absolutely cannot be that only the second type of taste exists. Ever meet a person who considers every single minor preference to be somehow objectively valid for everyone? They are insufferable, quoting again.

>For in respect of the agreeable everyone is allowed to have his own opinion, and no one insists upon others agreeing with his judgement of taste, which is what is invariably done in the judgement of taste about beauty. The first of these I may call the taste of the senses, the second, the taste of reflection: the first laying down judgements merely private, the second, on the other hand, judgements ostensibly of general (public) validity, but both alike being aesthetic (not practical) judgements about an object merely in respect of the bearings of its representation on the feeling of pleasure or displeasure. Now it does seem strange that while with the taste of the senses experience not only shows that its judgement (of pleasure or displeasure in something) is not universally valid, but everyone willingly refrains from imputing this agreement to others (despite the frequent actual prevalence of a considerable consensus of general opinion even in these judgements), the taste of reflection, which, as experience teaches, has often enough to put up with a dismissal of its claims to the universal validity of its judgement (upon the beautiful), can (as it actually does) find it possible for all that, to formulate judgements capable of demanding this agreement in its universality. Such agreement it does in fact require from everyone for each of its judgements of taste—the persons who pass these judgements not quarrelling over the possibility of such a claim, but only failing in particular cases to come to terms as to the correct application of this faculty.

 No.620004

>>619843
>Latinised many languages for starters.
they literally didn't latinize any eastern european language. that was with caucasus, central-asia and the indigenous nations of siberia (and only in 1920s)

>Saw itself as part of the world revolution, not an isolated "Eastern force".

none of the eastern european nations viewed themselves as "isolated eastern force" because that wasn't possible these nations were always under the influence of some other nation either due occupation Germany and Austria were influenced Poland and Czechia, Romania was under the influnce of France due to its aristocracy, similar thing with Bolgaria its royal family and England (and also Germany and Russia in this case).

 No.620122

>>591552
>tfw there will never be a blu-ray release of October: Ten Days That Shook The World (1928)
>>591553
Dziga Vertov is great; I'd recommend Mikhail Kalatozov's films too.

 No.620124

>>620004
The Caucasus is part of Europe. There were also plans to Latinise the Slavic languages for simplification but they were dropped.
These countries were on a mass basis not linked to western Europe. The aristocrats of Russia may have spoken French, but there was a great distance between the workers of Eastern and western Europe which the USSR bridged through comintern

 No.624252

>>617151
>>619723
this kind of perestroika cartoons were based

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 No.626026

>>603542
Not that anon but here's a few:

>Përrallë nga e kaluara/14 vjec dhëndërr (A Tale from the Past/14 Year Old Groom)

A poor farming family gets a 28 year old girl to marry their son so they could have an extra hand on the farm. The film mostly concerns marriage traditions and the bride doing her best not to get married off. Pretty good movie and a well-known classic today but I don't think you can find a version with English subtitles, although I did see one with French subtitles. I rate it a 7/10

>Shtigje Lufte (Paths of War)

A film about partisans the region of Peza during WW2, which was where many important events happened for the communist resistance. Dramatic and well-written but pretty old compared to the other films and rather generic when compared to the many, many Albanian films about partisans. Still worth a watch if you have time, this film also has English subtitles. 7/10

>Kapedani (Captain)

In this film, an old former partisan gets used to a rapidly modernizing Albania. Much of the film centers around the old partisan's conflicts with feminism in the new Albania as well as the changes brought on by a new wave of revolutionary thinking. Very comedic and an absolute classic, even if it's not as well known today as it should be. I would definitely recommend a watch if you can find a version with subtitles or know Albanian. 9/10

>Shembja e Idhujve (Collapse of the Idols)

A film about a teacher being sent up into the mountains to educate the people of the mountain clans during the Zog era. There he is caught in between clan conflicts and eventually finds himself being plotted against by the local police chief and friar. Nonetheless, he continues his attempts to both teach the clansmen and form some resistance against the coming Italian invasion. Also underrated, very well written, and you can find a version with English subtitles. 8/10, maybe 8.5/10

>Skenderbeu (Skanderbeg)

A film about one of Albania's kings and the unofficial founder of the Albanian nation, Skanderbeg. The film gives Skanderbeg's background and covers many famous battles of his as well as his conflict against the Ottomans (who symbolize reactionary forces) and Venice (who symbolize capitalist forces). One of, if not the, oldest Albanian film and also one of the best, winning international awards and great popularity among the Albanian people. Good acting, good writing, great battle scenes, and just generally a classic. Many versions with English subtitles are out there so give it a watch, although it may be better if you know a bit about the history. A completely biased 10/10 from me

 No.642304

>Zítra vstanu a opařím se čajem / Tommorrow I will wake up and scald myself with tea (1977)

Czech comedy about former nazis trying to get Hitler an H-bomb with the help of a time machine.

 No.642416

>>591582
Why is the movement so fluid? Is this rotoscoping?

 No.642453

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>>619723
no fucking way bros… they predicted it

 No.642454

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Clinic (1993) — Ukrainian short horror cartoon

 No.645397

>>642453
Just like they predicted the Chad vs chinlet >>>/hobby/20202

 No.645425

>implying this whole thread wasn't made by some western film student, the most western westerner of them all

 No.645550

>>620122
>tfw there will never be a blu-ray release of October: Ten Days That Shook The World (1928)
W8, doesn't Criterion sell it already?

>>645425
Stfu, drug addict. If you are a commie you should enjoy and obsessively watch Eastern bloc movies.

 No.650196

even movies for children were fuckin arthouse back in 1970s/80s

 No.650221

Redchadpill theory.

 No.650225

>>650221

Απόδειξη του θεωρήματος.

 No.653956

>>642454
this one is also great…

 No.663907

>>650221
what does he say?

 No.691156

this thread deserves more attention

 No.691277

>>619817
>Greek ML parties march with golden dawn because they're "working class"
>Chinese ML party filled with the richest exploiters in east asian
>African ML parties filled with shariah cucks
🥱 🥱 🥱 🥱
Marxism-Leninism is dead son. Grow up and find an ideology that isn't irrelevant and totally recuperated by porky please.

 No.691337

>>691277
>Greek ML parties march with golden dawn because they're "working class"
Source or didn't happen.
>Chinese ML party filled with the richest exploiters in east asian
Chinese ML party is also filled with its left-wing. Calling for its dissolution when Chinese comrades can try and change things for the better is stupid.
>African ML parties filled with shariah cucks
Source or didn't happen.

 No.691339

>>691277
>Grow up and find an ideology that isn't irrelevant and totally recuperated by porky please.
But what ideology would that be?

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>>691339
>But what ideology would that be?
We'll have to take a trip to the supermarket and find something. I heard they're having a sale on Anarcho-Bolshevism With Ecuadorian Characteristics.

 No.691350

what about the current (2020s) artistic avan-garde ?

 No.691375

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>>691344
>a leftcom of all people thinking picking the right ideology is how you get to socialism
>leftcom telling other people to find a not irrelevant ideology
Are you the other anon because I'm confused lmao

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>>691344

come to the gas station


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