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 No.609969[Last 50 Posts]

If we say "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" where does that leave ethics? Does this not free us to do anything with the excuse "there are no ethical choices". Consume the fruits of slave labor, or fair labor, it's all unethical so who cares. Buy from Amazon instead of your local exploiter, because they're both exploiters.

 No.609974

Sure but one is better for the working class while the other is diametrically opposed to the working class

 No.609978

Guess I should just consume this baby for breakfast. No ethical consumption under capitalism. For lunch, your family dog. For dinner, after I send you the video, edited so that glam rock is playing over me eating your family dog, I will then consume your cat, after fucking it. No ethical consumption under capitalism after all.

 No.609993

>>609978
Your reply is as moronic as people going "guess I should just go randomly kill somebody XD" when people mention that one Nietzsche quote or the other one by Dostoevsky.

 No.610043

>where does that leave ethics?
The only moral thing to do is education and organization for an armed struggle.

 No.610061

>>609993
it isn't, clearly there are forms of consumption that are considered immoral by the masses, which should be the yard stick of socialist morality, the question is, which ones and why

 No.610089

>>609969
It mean that some made up axiom of "ethical consumption" is not meet currently. But this must be dismissed as a useless spook.

 No.610091

>>610043
Lol, says you. And so what.
If you believe in an future inevitable utopia of communism, just relax and sit back

 No.610093

>>610043
this is a based answer

 No.610100

Morality and ethics do not exist, they stem form material conditions.

 No.610107

>>610100
Interesting, is there a relationship between material conditions and ethics that people exhibit. Like sweedes are nice and rich.

 No.610109

>>610107
scandis are nice but the middle class ones are soooooooooo smug

 No.610115

It means capitalism leaves no room for ethics you dumb fucks and "ethical consumption", if there is, is usually reserved for more affluent people who can afford it.

 No.610117

This place has really gone down the shitter, god damn.

 No.610118

>>610109
Yes, also scandinavia seems in decline, so we will see what happens with them in the future. If they won't be as competitive in the markets, then their living standard will suffer.

 No.610119

>>609969
>Consume the fruits of slave labor, or fair labor, it's all unethical so who cares. Buy from Amazon instead of your local exploiter, because they're both exploiters.
Uh, yes? Buy whatever's cheaper for you?

 No.610125

Morality is fickle and not something we should solely root our beliefs in. It can very easily slide into 'those who disagree or have different values than x are monsters, we must be forcibly convert or eradicate them.'

This is idealism though. As socialists, most of our beliefs should be rooted in what can be observed materially. The phrase 'there is no…' yadda yadda is clunky but it makes a good meme anyway. I wouldn't get too hung up on it as it's just a catch phrase.

 No.610132

>>610125
This is moral imperialism. You/commies are not some moral authority that can just make up moral axiom that i need to follow. Also why would i give a shit about morality when in it is the way of me acquiring material goods

 No.610139

>>610132
Did you even read what I wrote

 No.610142

>>610139
Yes, bro, stop imposing your made up moral axioms.

 No.610146

>>610142
>We shouldn't base our beliefs in moralism
<AAAAA STOP FORCING YOUR AXIOMS ON ME AAAAAAA
Stop.

 No.610156

>>610146

>"As socialists, most of our beliefs should be rooted in what can be observed materially. "


Tell me how do we get from observing shit to moral rules.

 No.610164

>>610119
What about making your own life easier by exploiting the labor of others? By creating surplus value. Is that allowed too? There's no ethical consumption so why does it matter who consumes the labor power of an other.

 No.610184

>>610164
Go right ahead give other people jobs and pay them what you agree on. A win win combo

 No.614375

Maybe this is the wrong thread to ask, but what do people have against morality? Are they simply socialist to improve their and their friends material conditions and not to better the entire human race? Maybe we are just using different definitions.

 No.614378

Morality is a spook>>609969

 No.614383

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>>614381

 No.614384

Morality is just someone else's material interest in sheep's clothing.

 No.614398

>>614383
"Capitalism is why blacks have zero capacity for self-organization" Never thought of it like that thanks

 No.614400

>>614398
holy shit what a pathetic self-defeating gotcha

 No.614403

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>>614398
You were saying?

 No.614408

>>614381
>n-not real capitalism!
tell me you don't actually think this has any worth whatsoever just because its screenshotted

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>>614408
Tell me why "hypercapitalists" are implementing every ideal outlined in the communist manifesto

 No.614413

Plus the CULTURAL revolution was engineered by literal Marxists from 1930's-70s. CRT for example was invented by Marxists. "Woke Capitalism" is largely a result of leftist hegemony of academia, media, etc., which indoctrinates each new generation of elites.

 No.614422

>>614375
idk, i always find it weird when people talk about marx like he was some soulless autismo just delivering us the Theory of Value from high and not a political, emotional man. like, what's all that talk about vampires and blood and shit? the moral indignation runs throughout marx

 No.614425

>>614418
Must be hard being such a huge spooked worm that you hate people who died for you.
But I guess invertebrates would despise anyone with a spine.

 No.614427

>>614412
>hiper privatise the state
>subsitise their industries so they get money not matering how much shit they do
>destroying minor enterprises so they can have absolute monopoly of gains
>invade and destroy other nations for their resources
>b-but it's aktually communism guys
when you defend capitalism but if inevitably fails because of its main contradictions, but its okay guys because it was not true capitalism

 No.614436

>>614422
Morality is not enough. Your personal indignation to something does not provide you the mechanism to eliminate it. Utopian socialists before Marx tried to argue on moral or even intellectual grounds about why everyone should do a socialism. Marx provided a systematic, scientific basis for it.

 No.614438

>>614418
>You leftists are the ruling class while we rightoids are the real threat to the establishment
<Which is why the ruling class shoots your leaders in their sleep
Pick a lane, for god’s sake

 No.614440

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>>609969
>If we say "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" where does that leave ethics?
Ethics can and still ought to be applied, but the idea that one should live a life of pure virtue is fucking ridiculous. Not everyone can or wants to be a "life stylist" and start to live in their own little commune in the forest.
>We should improve society somewhat
<yet you participate in society, curious.

You think Socialists are complacent as a whole? Do you think we view Capitalism as something easy to defeat? Sure, I use a compost bin and refuse to buy Coca Cola, but I know that where I am in my life means that I'm incapable of contributing much to the overall socialist movement, outside of going to a meeting, protest, etc.

People aren't inherently good or evil, and lord knows I have my flaws, the thing is, I'm aware of them and try to improve upon them in ways that I CAN with tools that I AM GIVEN.

>Does this not free us to do anything with the excuse "there are no ethical choices". Consume the fruits of slave labor, or fair labor, it's all unethical so who cares.


You can boycott and refuse to buy from certain consumers it's true. But the sad reality is that some of these shipping companies have vast monopolies on the service and have utilised their wealth to the point of becoming the only shipping company that seems to matter in the greater context, regardless of the fact that they treat their workers like dogshit.
>It's ethically wrong to buy shit
Yeah, but I've also got to have a web-cam for a zoom meeting next week and I can't go to a shop due to covid restrictions. Woop-de-fuckin' do. It's not wrong to care for yourself.

>Buy from Amazon instead of your local exploiter, because they're both exploiters.

Read above.

>>614418

>Muh black people can't organise and haven't contributed anything.
How about you organise an appointment to get a chin implant?

 No.614441

>>614438
tipical rightoid victimism, even when they are at the top they say they are opressed victims, no wonder they created and won the oppression olympics.

 No.614442

>>614438
>>614441

Watch this, he's going to call us NPCs because some mega-corps posted BLM and "support gays and women" on their adverts.

 No.614443

>>614436
why do you think marx decided to write a scientific explanation of capitalism in the first place?

 No.614450

>>614442
while ignoring that capital does this to every leftist(and vaguely leftist) movement to de radicalise, de escalate if it gets dire, remove communists/anarchists from the movement, principaly if these guys are the face of the movement, and create complying buyers for the new market.

 No.614454

>>614375
> but what do people have against morality?
The people here are mostly social outcasts in university/post-grad life
They’re “against morality” to be edgy and to stick it to the normies
You’ll start to notice that the most normie posters who are actually employed and have relationships/social lives also have the most normie views on things and usually believe in common morality

 No.614455

>>614442
>>614441
>>614438
>>614450
Being a racist liberal means having avoided all the grifts like postlibs, post-leftism, 5%ers, etc. Are neoliberalism and capitalism good? No, but the criticisms of them and their alternatives are a thousand times worse, and so defense of capitalism is tactically useful. Wake me up when you find a single anti-capitalist worth a damn.

 No.614457

>>614455
God, how did you get lost here, you fucking faggot?
>Uh the attacks on capitalism are
No one cares, kill yourself or leave, I don’t care which

 No.614465

>>614454
If you hate this place so much, why do you still come here

 No.614468

>>614465
I remember when there were posts or threads with actual value and hope I will find such a thread
Plus arguing with people when I’m not at work or with my girlfriend is actually pretty addicting

 No.614474

>>614443
Because of his political convictions. He originally studied law IIRC and applied the dialectical method of Hegel to such pursuits.

Perhaps you misunderstand me. Personal moral convictions might affect ones normative positions on politics, economics and other fields of human activity, but you can’t use them as a meaningful framework for understanding their actual objective characteristics. Doctors may be willing to say “sickness bad” and try to cure it, but they still have to understand anatomy and pathology.

 No.614481

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>>614455
> No, but the criticisms of them and their alternatives are a thousand times worse, and so defense of capitalism is tactically useful.
>Mass ecocide caused by corporations is le good
>Liberal bourgoise democracy which can do away with genuine improvements to the lives of working people is le good.
>people living on less than a dollar a day is le good.
>Imperialist powers overthrowing democratically elected governments is le good.

The assumption that what currently exists must necessarily exist is the acid that corrodes all visionary thinking. Not only that, but neo-liberalism has proven to be a fucking meme when you have countries like China who have a massive grip on their oligarchs and have transformed swarthes of desert into forests, or the fact that they've been able to create a new consumer class while America's middle class is shrinking in size every fucking year.

Or perhaps we should be wondering why villages within Mexico are now being intergrated into EZLN chiapas and have improved the lives of indigenous Mexicans tenfold, improving health-care and education.
<but you can do that with the current Mexican government if you just reformed it bro.
Let's compare, shall we?

In 2005, 84.2% of Zapatista children were fully vaccinated, while that figure stood at 74.8% in pro-government communities.
In 2010, 63% of all expectant mothers were able to receive medical assistance in Zapatista communities, while only 35% of pregnancies are properly assisted in non-Zapatista communities.
In 2010, 74% of Zapatista communities had access to toilet facilities in their homes. 54% of pro-government communities had access to toilet facilities in their homes.
In 2013, 32% of Zapatista inhabitants suffer TB while in larger portions of pro-government communities, 84% continue to experience TB.
Cancer screenings and sexual health examinations take place more frequently than before the revolution.
In regions where there were previously significantly high rates of death during childbirth, there has now been a period of eight years or more where no maternal deaths have been recorded.

Neo-Liberalism is a fucking meme.

 No.614485

>>614455
>muh crapitalism is the least bad
you can cope with that, but capitalism is just monarchy where the nobles can change sometimes and the king is a piece of paper, it's causing the destruction of the earth because despite being just 1% of the human population the owners of the system you defend make 50% of the worlds polution, it's inefective and destroys everything it touches and is expected to be sucked off by cucks like you, also
>Being a racist liberal means having avoided all the grifts like
your entire ideology is just a bunch of grifing, and every variation is just another tipe, conservatist, liberals libertarians, fascists and Nazis, don't know why you think you are on an high horse TBH

 No.614488

>>614435
Wriggle more on that hook, worm

 No.614491

>>614485
Imagine being a rightoid, your entire ideology is literally just being a buck broken prole, then you go onto a commie board and wag your finger at anons for being “grifted” into doing anything other than bearing their asshole to porky

 No.614492

>>614455
The capitalist realism is strong in this one.

How cucked are you that you can’t promise anything but “the others are worse?”

 No.614499

>>614492
He’s a broken buck :(

 No.614503

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>>614492
His next line will be: but X socialist experiment resulted in Y, so it is "le bad", but under capitalism it is "le good".

 No.614511

>>614499
And what are you, the buck who breaks?

 No.614516

>>614511
He's a big guy.

 No.614522

>>614492
Capitalism works fine when you have people who A.) Don’t want to get fired/starve and B.) Have the smallest inkling of time preference

 No.614529

>>614522
so why is capitalism not working for the 1 in 5 children in the US, the second richest country on earth ?

 No.614531

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>>614522
>Capitalism works fine if you have coercion and some neoclassical cope

 No.614536

>>614522
>A.) Don’t want to get fired/starve
What did he mean with this?

 No.614548

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>>614522
>don't want to get fired/starve.
So it was the workers fault that the Global Financial Crisis happened? It's the workers fault that people lost their jobs and businesses to Covid-19? It's your own fault for being homeless because you were either disowned by your parents after you came out as trans or queer/ escaping an abusive relationship?

>Have the smallest inkling of time preference

<How DARE you have a life outside of working in a ware-house/ factory. How DARE you not spend every waking hour rotting behind a desk for this company.
<How DARE you want to raise your child.

>inb4 he starts seething about how trans people are supposedly mentally ill.

 No.614565

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>>614561
>He doesn’t think the mode of production ever changed

 No.614572

>>614561
>every children that die from hunger are druggies or criminals
lmao, the reason you think it works is because you created excuses to ingnore every problem that happen on it, like this one.

 No.614575

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>>614561
>got along fine for decades without bemoaning the fact that most people didn't care if some druggie with a criminal record died on the streets
<Yeah, I'll just forget about how the War on Drugs ruined the lives of multiple people and how capitalism has relied on imperialist wars and the prison industrial complex to keep itself afloat.

>c-capitalism is still the best MOP however.

 No.614592

>>614579
but the holodomor is a meme that has nothing to do with the WoD, the gov waited for the kulaks to sell but because they wanted to become zillionaires with the scarcity of food and the USSR did not want that, the kulaks destroyed the food, just like amazon destroy its products to not let it get cheap enough to be sold at a net loss
the war on drugs was totally manufactered by the US state do destroy resscistance in the ghettos, destroy the petite drug lords to substitute with big name drug lords and then sell drugs to them, it was just an state sponsored gang war.

 No.614598

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>>614579
>war on drugs is based.
>So based in fact that Reagan went out of his way to commit high treason to do deal with Drug dealing death-squads to stop le communists.
>So based that they had the CIA introduce drugs into the community to wreck them
https://www.rt.com/usa/usa-cia-drugs-poor-americas/


Reason why they're against drug legalisation is because you'd then have to stop the US prison industrial complex- and therefore put those POOR *sob* unfortunate prison guards and police out of a job. Class cucks of the highest order.

Greer is a dumb-cunt and so are you for shilling for a system that relies on enslavement, genocide and theft to keep itself alive.

 No.614661

>>614653
Are you capable of formulating original arguments instead of copying and pasting screenshots of posts by random weeaboos on Twitter?

 No.614667

>>614653
>origins on incel forums
>obliterates sniveling(sic) cuckolds
o i am laffin

 No.614669

>>614653
cope

 No.614674

>Untitled.png
Whoops! Looks like a fucking retard just posted!
What are the contents of his post?:
a)Non-sequitur
b)Non-argument
c)Concession via deflection
d)All of the above

 No.614686

>>614653

 No.614688

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>>614548
>It's the workers fault that people lost their jobs and businesses to Covid-19?
Well let's begin with the types that said corona was so dangerous to begin with.

 No.614694

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>>614688
and how about we follow the money trail and take a look at especially pharma corporations who are making FAT stacks from vaccines?

 No.614717

>>609969
>where does that leave ethics?
a trashcan
>Does this not free us to do anything
you have always been free to do so if you needed some retard to come tell you it was ok you are a cuck

 No.614725

>>614653
Is that you, ThingNoticer?

 No.614742

>>614688
>>614694
>M-M-Muh circumcised funny hat people!

 No.614744

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>>614688
>>614694
>resorts to blaming da joos
Everytime.
We actually deal with material analysis, not conspiracy theories from wikipedia.

 No.614749

>>614742
>>614744
>C-C-C-C-CONSPIRACY!
>IT CAN'T BE TRUE!
>IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
>____ TOLD ME SO!
You wouldn't know jack shit even if he slapped you in your stupid fucking face.

 No.614763

Marxist materialists don't care about Morality or ethics, retard. Only utopians are into that shit.

 No.614769

>>614749
Oh rly? Enlighten us

 No.614773

>>614769
u r peak lumpenprole, gommunism is just complete capitalist enslavement with extra steps, Fascism is the only way for society to brogress :DDD

 No.614775

>>614749
No one told me it's a conspiracy, I just know based on your fuckwit analysis and lack of actual evidence that you resort to blaming people based on their identity as opposed to their relation to the means of production.

Corona virus is deadly, and thethe massive death toll it has had on Americans is proof of this. China on the other hand was actually able to handle the pandemic and provide a vaccine, while companies who made a shit tier vaccine you have to take TWICE (in order for you to be healthy). Your argument basically boils down to
>If we remove da Joos from power this will make capitalism le good.
History proves that this isn't the case.

it's funny how you accuse us of not knowing jack shit, but you're the one smearing that fecal matter of what you call "a brain" all over the board.

Conspiracy theories without physical evidence is not an argument.

For example: using your logic, I can come up with the conspiracy that you have a very small penis.

Owing to the fact that you do not care for morality that much and resort to blaming the jews, I shall therefore conclude that you were circumcised as a child, and you can't get it up. You have tried pornography only for you to be discouraged owing to the prominence of BLACKED taking hold. I can prove this owing to you viewing black people as inferior and incapable of organising. Owing to constantly prove that you're "right" requires you to make grand statements, compensating for your dimunitive size.

Therefore, in conclusion, you have a small penis.

 No.614809

>>614775
Yes, however you should have asked your mother. She provides the best counterevidence to that classic copypasta.
>the massive death toll it has had on Americans is proof of this
Please post proofs that this death is not only A) accurate to the actual amount of deaths who died of Corona and B) is not warped by le capitalist exploitative incentive of covid contact in medical facilities means more money for workers.
>China on the other hand was actually able to handle the pandemic and provide a vaccine
>China reported something factual for once
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

 No.614810

>>614775
And hey wait jackass, why are you assuming I hate blacks? I never said once I hate blacks. Why are you immediately assuming I hate blacks, and why are you inferring I watch pornography with blacks?
Taking into account the almost baby-like treatment of anyone left-of-center when it comes to minorities, I have a strange feeling you have a personal issue with blacks. Maybe you were bullied, maybe you were just scared of them, but not me. But you see an opportunity to get that possible stress of having to face your crypto-racism and subsequent fetishization off of you by pinning it on me, and you took it. Hook, line, and sinker.
Fucking dipshit.

 No.614812

>>614809
Oh, are we posting copypastas?

>西藏问题 Free Tibet

Tibet was under one country two systems since 1950. The Tibetan government was given the chance to reform their system, but in 1959 the aristocracy revolted in an attempt to maintain their backward feudal privileges. Following this, Tibetan serfs were freed from the reactionary feudal aristocracy with the aid of the PLA.
>天安门事件 Tiananmen Square protests of 1989
Protest movement dominated by libtards who were allied to the libtard right wing faction of CPC (further right wing than Deng Xiaoping). They would have made China suffer the fate of USSR, Yugoslavia, or worse.
>天安門大屠殺 Tiananmen Square Massacre
There was no massacre inside the square, the students left peacefully. Even a protest leader who came from Taiwan Province, Hou Dejian confirmed this. However there were armed clashes and rioting all over other areas of Beijing with casualties on both sides.
>法輪功 Falun Gong
Chinese Scientology tier cult which rejects modern medicine, claims that heaven is racially segregated, that aliens disguised as humans have invaded Earth, and that their leader Li Hong Zhi (李洪志) is a divine reincarnation of Buddha Maitreya.
>动态网自由门 dyna web freegate
VPN funded by the USA government, it is meant to be used for sending propaganda to Chinese citizens.
>反右派鬥爭 Anti-Rightist Struggle
>大躍進政策 Great Leap Forward
>文化大革命 Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution
70% correct, 30% wrong.
>人權 Human Rights
The hypocritical westernoid imperialists are the greatest enemy of human rights.
>民運 Democratization
>多黨制 Multi-party system
China has 9 parties in the Peoples Representative Congress alongside many independents, this is the largest elected parliament in the world. There is far more political diversity represented in the Chinese system than in the westernoid liberal system of the USA. China also has far more democratic institutions at the local level.
>獨裁 專制 authoritarianism dictatorship
Yes, the peoples democratic dictatorship which defends the interests of the people by using its authority against the reactionary enemies of the people
>獨立 Independence
>自由 Freedom
China has been independent and free from the Westernoid and Japanese imperialists since 1949.
>中華民國 Republic of China
ROC died when Chiang Kai Shrek betrayed the legacy of Sun Yat Sen. What remains of it is a government in exile which claims mainland China as their territory. In addition they claim all of Mongolia along with parts of Russia and some other countries.
>台灣 Taiwan Formosa
An island province of China which remains under occupation of said government in exile. Formosa is the Portuguese name for that island.
>達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama
Leader of exiled Tibetan feudal aristocrats.
>新疆維吾爾自治區 Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region
Autonomous region of China with an Uyghur plurality where most party members are Uyghurs. It is targeted by Al Qaeda affiliate insurgents fighting against the PRC. Unlike the westernoid imperialists, the PRC has taken the humane approach of providing proper education rather than foreign invasions and drone strikes.
>劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo
Libtard westaboo who said that China needed to be under 300 years of colonialism and praised the invasion of Iraq.
>諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize
A fucking joke routinely given to warmongers like Barack Obama.
>強制堕胎 Birth Control
The westernoid liberal media first criticized China for being “over populated”, then they criticize China for establishing proper birth control.
>民族淨化 Minority Genocide
Since the establishment of the PRC, all 56 ethnicities have their population steadily increase over the years. The Han percentage of population has reduced while minority percentage has increased. The minorities even recieve government funded housing benefits, educational benefits, and many legal benefits including the institution of ethnic autonomous areas where they have a majority or plurality of local population.
>活摘器官 organ harvesting
An absurd conspiracy theory made by the murderous cult “Falun Gong”. Even the US newspaper "Washington Post" said this was bullshit based on their own investigation.
>毒品 drugs
Were used as a weapon against the Chinese people by British imperialists. The PRC has done a great job in treating drug use and combating drug trade across the nation, also aiding Vietnam and Laos with combating the Golden Triangle drug mafias.
>監視 surveillance
Westernoids who screech and make wild accusations about Chinese apps should be more concerned about the surveillance by internet corporations and alphabet soup in their own countries.
>六合彩 Mark Six
Gambling based lottery run by mafia gangs, which was later outlawed.
>大紀元時報 epochtimes
Fake news media machine run by Falun Gong which actively promotes this murderous cult.
>賭博 gambling
Go to Macau if you want that.
>人體實驗 human experiment
An absurd conspiracy theory with no evidence, unlike the well documented history of human experiments in the USA.
>胡耀邦 Hu Yao Bang
High ranking libtard within the CPC who was worshipped by the libtards in the 1989 Tiananmen protests.
>趙紫陽 Zhao Zi Yang
High ranking libtard within the CPC who was impeached during the 1989 Tiananmen protests.
>魏京生 Wei Jing Sheng
A treasonous libtard criminal who collaborated with foreign forces for regime change multiple times.
>小熊维尼 Winnie the Pooh
Is legal and publicly available in China.

 No.614825

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>>614809
>>614810
>has no arguments
>resorts to the same conspiratorial jargon that I accused him of doing.
>assumes I made a copy pasta.

Here's your "I don't hate black people" posts, bro. Because unlike you, I actually use EVIDENCE in my posts.

>>614418

>>614398

Speaking of said evidence relating as to why a state-run economy is better than a neo-lib one in handling the virus.

The USA has had over 760 thousand deaths.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Compare that to China which numbers 4 thousand.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

Now take into account that there are more people living in China than the USA. Now take into consideration that the USA is one of the world's wealthiest countries and yet can't even solve a fucking pandemic in their own back yard.

>u-ur a dipshit

Holy projection, Batman.

 No.614845

>>614825
Sorry retard, not trusting them numbers.
If my friends never got it, my family never got it, but the guy on a political forum got it, chances are it aint bad

 No.614847

Thread summary:
So far we have had
>>614381
>Not real capitalism
>>614418
>Leftists aren't a threat, thats why they get killed?
>>614435
>Bootlicking
>>614455
>No alternative to capitalism, just deradicalize, ok guys?!!
>>614579
>capitalism doesn't work and thats fucking BASED!!!
>>614653
?
>>614688
>>614694
>ITS DA JOOOOOOZ!!!
>>614809
>china bad :(

 No.614849

>>614845
You are slipping into solipsism

 No.614851

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>>614845
>Sorry retard, not trusting them numbers.
>If my friends never got it, my family never got it, but the guy on a political forum got it, chances are it aint bad.

<I won't trust the numbers cuz da jooz and pre-arbitrated lines as to what i consider to be "evidence".

Oh I'm sorry mate, I'll make sure that it takes the form of a jpeg infograph next time.
In the mean time,

Suck my nuts
Never post here again unless you've changed as a person.
Every capitalist system is fucked and destined to fail
Everything that goes wrong with capitalism isn't the fault of the jews.
Don't post here until you've read some theory

 No.614878

>>614851
Sorry man, just not going to trust numbers that in all likelihood could be and have good reason to be falsified, all for the profits of some company.
Have you ever asked yourself "Who benefits from the hysteria and paranoia around Corona?"
If we ignore pure cohencidence, then it's the rich. Massive wealth transfers from the poor and middle class to the rich, lifetime customers of vaccine producers, etc. etc. Bootlicking around corona is peak lumpenprole.

 No.614881

>>614847
If you like china so much then fuck off to it how about
You can bet your shriveled up wang that if Big Adolf risen from the grave I'd be on the first plane to Germany, but I don't have that luxury. But you do! The "People's" "Republic" of "China" and her military will welcome you with open fuckin arms, so get to it faggit.

 No.614884

>>614878
Good questions lad
https://bannedthought.net/USSR/index.htm
Here have some reading material as a reward for thinking at all

 No.614886

>>614881
They're communists not liberals over there in China lad they don't accept just anyone and even Comrade Xi had his application to join the party rejected repeatedly before he was accepted
Polite sage for double post

 No.614896

>>614878
At best this is cause for suspicion (for “free thinkers” such as yourself), but not definitive proof.

 No.614907

>>614884
Shut the fuck up retard, youre literally bootlicking an authority whose fucking all of us over for profit but its "le GOOOOD authority because SCIENCE" so its okay. At least my rule is "jew bad, not jew then depends". With this shit its just up to the whim of god knows whatever.

 No.614909

>>614907
Here lad some introductory material to get you started
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

 No.614911

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>>614878
>if you take the vaccine ur a bootlicker.
This coming from the guy who was shilling for capitalism ITT.

 No.614912

>>614907
I refuse to believe this is anything but a leftie larping as a fascist. Because it’s way too on the nose.

 No.615890

>>614912
I am a Nazi. I have a fucking shaved head and I wear doc martens for fuck's sake. Maybe I believe that a Syndicalist economy would be the best, but in all other terms, I'm a fucking Nazi.
We shouldn't have gotten to the fucking point where I need to reassure you I am a Neo-Nazi Fascist. You should be accusing me of that at the slightest sense of criticism. Fuck.
>>614909
I'm not reading your fucking shit.
>>614911
Thank you.

 No.615895

>>615890
>I’m a Nazi because of my consumption habits, which totally isn’t peak liberal ideology poisoning
Well, you got the ineffectual seething part right.

 No.615960

>>615895
I did it, I convinced you I'm not a fuckin lefty poofter or whatever. Feels good.

 No.615963

>>615960
must feel good to have no brain process, no need to analyse or critisize anything, just consume and regurgitate

 No.615971

>>615960
No, you’re just another liberal who thinks an ideology is some aesthetic to consoom.

 No.616121

>>615963
>>615971
Jesus Fucking Christ Almighty, do you not even think that there's an ounce of possibility that I specifically stated a corporation that defines my ideology as a way to convince you to stop associating me with you? Is that impossible? I've noticed a lot that with you lefty fucks, things are very discrete, as in, they're either A or B. Although people who claim to be "middle ground" or similar are fucking retarded, a simple one-cause-one-effect thinking is literal retard-tier.
For example, >>614775's copypasta was written by a leftie. Now, he's saying that because I hate the jews, I must be circumcised and have ED. But there's many more, equally disparaging things you can say to someone on why they hate jews. You can call me unsuccessful, a failure, poor, unfunny, uncreative, otherwise a sexual flop outside of raw genitalia. All of these things are an insult, and can be interpreted as the opposite of a jewish person if jews are viewed positively.
However, being the uncreative, robot-like fucks lefties are, it *has* to be - in your minds - about 1. the penis, which the obsession with the sexual I've seen on the left may mean that there's a mass feeling of sexual inferiority, which in that case, keep your chin up. Your dick is just fine bro, it can please a woman as long as you can actually fuck her. Which you can. I believe in you. And 2. it cannot be any of the other options. I casually, as a spur-of-the-moment factor created a slew of different things you could've at least added on to the copypasta. But you didn't. Because you likely believe with all your heart that the copypasta is 100% true and is likely infallible.
Fuck.

 No.616133

>>609969
>If we say "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism"
Absolutely moronic binary-brain garbage.

 No.616591

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>>616121
>Make one (1) penis joke
<Responds with schizo rant about penis insecurity

 No.616858

>>616591
>schizo rant
It's not something that requires a near-delusional amount of intuition and interpretation to realize that there's a massive crisis where a lot of guys think they sexually can't perform despite the fact that they can.
When women say they want a guy with a dick length, keep in mind they usually fail the water-level test or whatever; as in, women are more likely to fail by a considerable margin on a basic spatial reasoning test.
So whenever a woman says she wants a dick that's at least __ inches long, subtract 1 - 2'' from the calculation. She says 6 inches is the minimum? Then it's safe to believe she wants 4 inches minimum.
Now anyways, the fact of the matter is that irregardless, I've seen that copypasta the several times I've come to these parts just to debate after I say that calling something a "conspiracy" doesn't take away it's plausibility. Never once, have I seen anyone try to vary it. I've seen the "You will never be a woman" copypasta changed and edited several times, but never that copypasta. Maybe it's because you leftysharts need copypastas to explain things to people, because if you were asked to make it up on the spot, you'd end up being retardedly verbose and sound like a pseudo-intellectual jackass to anyone but you. So I can't really compare two copypastas meant for actual intellectual use on both the left and right, because the right doesn't have those.
Now I've never seen the "it's a conspiracy, you have small dick" copypasta ever be changed into the many different variations I've given you guys. Which begs the question, why?

 No.616864

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>>616858
>He’s still going

 No.616889

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>>616864
>He's shocked I want to have a genuine intellectual discussion
You people do nothing but - as per usual - jerk yourself off on the basis of being "smarter than /pol/". But this shit is more retarded than half of the Bunkerchan-Discord BBC shills or whatever. I've never reached a point before where I'd see leftists break down into this complete bonobo cope-and-seethe tactic. As time goes on, I clearly get smarter. I'm not in my 70s about to be hit by dementia.
Considering the fact that the other two threads I've shat up have gotten no actual replies at a certain point, I guess this is option B for winning an argument with communists: them turning into the "retarded /pol/tards" they hate.

 No.616901

>Buy from Amazon instead of your local exploiter, because they're both exploiters.
Yes. Accelerate the dialectic until Amazon fucks up capitalism.

 No.616910

>>616858
mucho texto

 No.616919

>>616858
that is one long post about dicks

 No.616979

>>616858
Is the small penis in the room with you right now?

 No.617282


 No.617469

>>616889
>jerk yourself off on the basis of being "smarter than /pol/".
Yes, and? Being smarter than /pol/ isn't hard.

 No.617478

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>>616858
>It's not something that requires a near-delusional amount of intuition and interpretation to realize that there's a massive crisis where a lot of guys think they sexually can't perform despite the fact that they can.

So you can't sexually perform? Is this what you making this thread is all about?

>When women say they want a guy with a dick length, keep in mind they usually fail the water-level test or whatever; as in, women are more likely to fail by a considerable margin on a basic spatial reasoning test.


A man with a tiny penis typed this.

>So whenever a woman says she wants a dick that's at least __ inches long, subtract 1 - 2'' from the calculation. She says 6 inches is the minimum? Then it's safe to believe she wants 4 inches minimum.


You know how I said you have a small penis earlier ITT. I meant as a joke, I didn't actually think you'd indirectly state you have a tiny penis.


>Now anyways, the fact of the matter is that irregardless, I've seen that copypasta the several times I've come to these parts just to debate after I say that calling something a "conspiracy" doesn't take away it's plausibility. Never once, have I seen anyone try to vary it. I've seen the "You will never be a woman" copypasta changed and edited several times, but never that copypasta. Maybe it's because you leftysharts need copypastas to explain things to people, because if you were asked to make it up on the spot, you'd end up being retardedly verbose and sound like a pseudo-intellectual jackass to anyone but you. So I can't really compare two copypastas meant for actual intellectual use on both the left and right, because the right doesn't have those.

>Now I've never seen the "it's a conspiracy, you have small dick" copypasta ever be changed into the many different variations I've given you guys. Which begs the question, why?

Because it isn't a copypasta. I wrote it out and you started accusing me of writing a copypasta, which ok, thanks for the idea. In summation, you have a tiny penis.

 No.617485

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>>617478
>So you can't sexually perform? Is this what you making this thread is all about?
When the fuck did I say that? I said that 99% of people can perform properly during sex.
>A man with a tiny penis typed this.
Picrel
>You know how I said you have a small penis earlier ITT. I meant as a joke, I didn't actually think you'd indirectly state you have a tiny penis.
What specific line states """indirectly""" that I have a small dick? Let me guess, you'll say all of them, and when asked further, you'll just pull out another shitty insult out of your nasty, gaping shithole, like the faggot you are.
>Because it isn't a copypasta. I wrote it out and you started accusing me of writing a copypasta, which ok, thanks for the idea. In summation, you have a tiny penis.
I've seen that copypasta a million times, I swear.

 No.617510

>>616889
>Considering the fact that the other two threads I've shat up have gotten no actual replies at a certain point
Why would people keep replying if you're just shitposting after a certain point? There's no good faith discussion to be had anymore, even in this thread you began just coping with the Tianaman square copypasta and a giant rant about dicks when you ran out of arguments.
>>617485
>Types out measurements into a site as if it's proof due to nothing but an anon making one single joke
<"Believe me bro!"
Holy fucking shit, this just keeps getting better. You aren't helping your case dude, this just comes off as some desperate terminally online faggot with some middle schooler grade compulsion to prove over the internet that his dick ain't small. Who the hell are you trying to prove yourself to on this far out corner of the internet, other then yourself?
>I've seen that copypasta a million times, I swear.
Link it then.

 No.617563

>socialism
>morality

pick one

 No.618195

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>>616858
>She says 6 inches is the minimum? Then it's safe to believe she wants 4 inches minimum.

You're 4 inches??!

 No.618512

>>617510
I think the idea of "good faith" was lost the moment the thread devolved into "NOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SMALL DICK" when all I was doing was commenting on the obsession with dick size and how it's negatively impacted the mental health of men in the developed world, A.K.A., the proletariat.
The working class feels even further inadequate by the rich's usage of pornography to instill a feeling of inferiority in the common working man; it makes him believe his entirely average, entirely functional 5 incher is a tiny shrimp-dick that should be within 10 feet of a woman.
That should be a message you get behind, but because you want to act like a fuckin retard who I could climb the chromosomes of and jump down to the autism score to kill myself, you need to focus on saying I have small dick: carrying out the will of the bourgeoisie by degrading the proletariat on such a fundamental level. Kill yourself.
>You aren't helping your case dude
I don't know why you didn't pay attention to the fact my dick is 2 FUCKING INCHES FLACCID. It looks like a goddamn tictac. Focus on that, that's funny and it's true. Not my working dick size.
>Link it then
Well after further research, I guess I'm wrong. It was an original creation and I was wrong to say it was a copypasta. But why did he focus on the size of my penis first? I don't give a shit about that. I'm just making you guys seethe by saying "nah my dick's good", and it's fucking funny.

 No.619055

>>618512
>Still ranting about one joke about your dick
Dude, nobody is seething but you. You're literally still spazzing out about it, when you could have just addressed the arguments that had nothing to do with it. But instead of actually arguing against the points anons brought up regarding your initial assertions, you hyperfocused about fucking dick size and how somehow, some insult made on an imageboard at you specifically is an attack on proles everywhere. You have no one to blame but yourself for appearing desperate and coping lol.

 No.619067

>>619055
Just saying, the "one joke" thing fell apart when 20 people made the same joke.
And also, it wasn't even focused on the penis bit until you focused on the penis bit. I was saying that going "dick small" is unoriginal and may be because you have a problem with how you see your dick.
So please, stop lying, and while you're at it, stop being a fuckin communist.

 No.619069

>>619067
>Implying that 20 people didn’t see your first reaction to “peepee small” and decided to milk the lolcow for all it’s got

 No.619073

What's wrong with being moral? And having just values as well? Anyone who's immoral and injustice should be purged and executed. This is why I include justice with morality and use them as two sides of the same coin. Capitalism is immoral and Justice means rooting it out and destroying it's supporters with extreme prejudice. If it were the 1800s in Russia I'd hold the same opinion against absolutist Tsarism; comparatively speaking, the liberal order is a million times more preferable and just and would purge all royalist supporters. I'm a moral absolutist in that way. Anything that stands against progress is immoral and unjust. Socialism is the just way in capitalist society and so capitalism must be destroyed to set things right.

 No.619076

>>619073
Someone didn’t mentally age beyond the saturday morning cartoons they watched.


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