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Previous thread >>589937

Recently some migrants died and Unite cut their Labour funding again, nothing out of the ordinary. Also the Queen may die soon lol.
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 No.671378

>Reminder Northern Ireland would be given back to the rest of Ireland

 No.671380

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>>671365
Yeah I know.
Which is why I find it funny that people are dredging up groups like that back up.

 No.671383

>>671376
It is decolonisation because overseas territories get to vote this time
And they are way more autonomous than they are now

 No.671447

>>671357
Uhh… why? They're not the same as the UK, they're settler colonial projects and aren't legitimate countries with a rich history.

 No.671471

Just like the UK
full of shit

 No.671479

>>671447
>>>/int/

 No.672525

>>670978
I wasn't talking about the Labour party, but the left, left wing activists, social media figures etc.
The UK Left needs to shut the fuck up about it's trans fetishism. It's perfectly fine to say "Yeah I support trans rights" but it's clear as fucking day much of the UK Left are just LGBT fad fetishists.
The left itself has a real image problem in the left, and it doesn't help it with so many young activists and our entire social media output being overrun with basically a Transgender purity cult mentality screaming "TERF" at everyone.
>Labour needs to lose the next election.
Again, I'm not giving the Labour party advice, I hope Starmer gets raped next election in the polls. I'm talking about the left, and the position the left needs to be in to take back the party and actually look like a serious professional, political project rather than Student Politics + Liberal Idpol fad of the day.

 No.672529

>>672525
Fuck off, it's not that hard to just tolerate trans people and move on to the serious political work.

 No.672532

>>670457
>We're gonna get Labour New 2.0 Starmer era aren't we?

No, polls today have Tories already bouncing back +4
Starmer is a pathological lying sack of shit, pretty much the entire base of the party fucking despises him and the party is basically telling the left, Unions and young people to go fuck themselves.
Tories change leader into next election and they will win. I suspect while Labour will "poll high" into the next election, voter turnout is going to be absolute fucking dogshit for anyone under 50.

 No.672559

>>672529
It's fine tolerating Trans people.
Much of the British left though is obsessed with spouting insane Tucute bullshit everywhere, calling everyone and their dog a "TERF" and screaming "TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS" at every opportunity. I see that shit spray painted fucking everywhere in student areas.
Most people have a "live and let live" attitude, but are absolutely turned off by how batshit and aggressive the Trans rhetoric has become from the idpol UK left.

 No.672569

>>672559
Well there are TERFs everywhere in this country, the BBC ran a story about how transwomen are threatening women with quotes from an actual rapist lesbian, trans people still can't get healthcare without a 5 year waiting list, and so on. So what is your solution, we just abandon transpeople, as if that will somehow get the bougies to capitulate to the rest of our demands? Come on.

 No.672589

>>672569
Who gives a shit if there are TERF's everywhere in the country?
This is a stupid as fuck fight between Guardian wine drinking Radical Feminists Karens and a bunch of hysterical, delusional tucute retards who don't even have anything resembling a coherent argument or thought to even bother trying debating the TERFs on.
Meanwhile the left wades into this, picks up all the worst elements of tucute idiocy, then starts broadcasting it to the general public, who have even less understanding of complex gender theories, and just see you as saying "yeah guys should be able to compete in women's MMA and kids should have hormones based on their feels for the day"
This whole fucking dogshit is further just fuelled by a stupid LGBT/Liberal NGO complex that basically are scrambling to keep their jobs after the major LGBT battles were won.
Trans people make up like 0.007% of the population, focusing on this is just as stupid as it was even spending a minute focusing on "Antisemitism" nonsense trying to placate a bougie as fuck, rightoid demographic that makes up less that 0.03% of the population.

 No.672592

>>672589
Stunning, someone who says 'the left just needs to not focus on trans issues' turns out to be a transphobe, who could have predicted this

 No.672594

Daily reminder that British imperialist fascists are still occupying 6 counties of Ireland.

Death to Britain. Death to Amerikkka

 No.672598

>>672592
Do you think trans women should be allowed to compete in the MMA?

 No.672599

>>672592
I say don't focus on trans issues because it's a bunch of retarded bullshit that affects literally a few thousand people in the entire country and has absolutely atrocious optics, especially when the Trans movement literally slippery sloped passed Medicalist rationality into tucute "muh xenogenders" actual attack helicopter bullshit.
Shock horror, a Marxist cares more about general society and class, over people's stupid as fuck personal identity feels. Go start a fucking Transgender identity rights movement, stop trying to hijack the left with this lib idpol bullshit.

 No.672606

>>672598
Unless there's some evidence that they are dominating the entirety of women's sports (which surely they should be able to if they have such an unfair advantage) instead of people picking out a few isolated cases they think 'prove' that sports are now ruined, then I don't see why not

>>672599
There's way more than 'a few thousand' trans people in the UK, it's at least 100,000 and probably more, being leftist means respecting minority rights even if you think that's inconvenient or whatever, also using stuff like 'tucute' just proves you're a hyperonline weirdo because normal people don't have that shit in their heads. Look maybe some leftist commentators spend a bit too much energy on transgender issues compared to other issues, but that doesn't mean they should just stop talking about it because it apparently might alienate muh white working class, as if the transbashers were ever amenable to being left wing anyway.

Also you can accuse LGBT orgs of being bourgeois but TERFs are bigger bougies than the LGBT could ever be, they control the BBC, most all major news outlets, and all the main parties

 No.672612

>>672606
That was a lot of words to say "yes"
Why did you need to use so many words?

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 No.672707

>>672697
Ok nazbol

 No.672721


 No.672748

>>672721

>Oh so if your a Nazbol OK can you name all of these people if

>Your a Nazbol because only nazbols only kown thses people

 No.672768

>>672748
>OK can you name all of these people
>Their names are in the filenames
Ebin

 No.672776

>>672768 well that was an inconvenience

 No.672934

>>671346
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tony-blair-kier-starmer-wokeism-b1964432.html
>In a commentary published on Friday, the former prime minister said Labour should adopt a “commonsensical position on the ‘culture issues’”.
>Without elaborating on which issues he was referring, Mr Blair likened Labour's situation to 1983 – when the party was attacked over support for LGBT rights.
>He argued that “large numbers of Labour voters in 1983 felt our economic policy was not credible and our attitudes across a range of cultural questions profoundly alienating”.

>>672525
(adam curtis voice) but this was a fantasy.
get a new fucking hobby mate. play civ 5. Bismarck, diplo victory.
your subsequent posts are a great example of homo hypocritus. i don't think you've even caught that you're doing it - "stop talking about trans issues! it's a distraction! and anyway, do you want men buying all the pink razorblades??" - here's some practical advice: just stop paying attention. in the digital age constructing your own worldview has never been easier. ordinary people don't care about these things, they don't pay attention, they play civ 5. Elizabeth, conquest victory.

 No.673108

>>672589
>Who gives a shit if there are TERF's everywhere in the country?
>This is a stupid as fuck fight between Guardian wine drinking Radical Feminists Karens and a bunch of hysterical, delusional tucute retards who don't even have anything resembling a coherent argument or thought to even bother trying debating the TERFs on.
>Meanwhile the left wades into this, picks up all the worst elements of tucute idiocy, then starts broadcasting it to the general public, who have even less understanding of complex gender theories, and just see you as saying "yeah guys should be able to compete in women's MMA and kids should have hormones based on their feels for the day"
>This whole fucking dogshit is further just fuelled by a stupid LGBT/Liberal NGO complex that basically are scrambling to keep their jobs after the major LGBT battles were won.
>Trans people make up like 0.007% of the population, focusing on this is just as stupid as it was even spending a minute focusing on "Antisemitism" nonsense trying to placate a bougie as fuck, rightoid demographic that makes up less that 0.03% of the population.

Based Bevan poster

 No.673123

>>670268
It isn’t necessarily mutually exclusive.

 No.673278

>>672934
I will support any bid you make to take over the Labour Party, you have my axe

 No.673850

https://twitter.com/MetroUK/status/1478410790394814467
Tell you what, the newest season of The Apprentice is gonna be a fucking banger lmao

 No.674038

>>673123
This, I get the idea that an over-emphasis on any form of idpol rather than class struggles is playing into the bourgeois ruse that being left-wing and a lib is the same thing, but I'm also suspicious of anyone who takes that to mean left-wing politics should eschew social liberalism to appeal to "British People".

The whole argument that you can't appeal to the British working class while also supporting things like trans rights is just Tory media propaganda, while the left is very clear that material conditions for working people and recognition for minorities are of equal importance, OF COURSE the media is only going to report about the latter when it represents fewer people in a game to win a majority.

Don't be a Keir Starmer, don't buy into the belief that working class people care more about Boris's implicit promise that he'll make casual bigotry acceptable again than his explicit and inevitably false promise he will provide red wall constituencies more jobs and greater wealth to the country in general with Brexit.

 No.674050

I might actually start a two front guerrilla war on both "gender critical feminists" and Trans activists at the same time.

There has been a development within the union. This time, the "gender critical" fuckers are unequivocally directly in the wrong, they have subverted a democratic process, in a sociopathic manner, they have lost any and all sympathy I formerly held for them. Fuck them. Fuck them entirely. Useless, petty, ill disciplined stupid cunts.

and low and fucking behold, its the ones who are always posting "oooh stalin was right wing" "oooooh I'm a social democrat" who have engaged in using their position to purge somebody for political differences.

The honest authoritarian is always an anarchist underneath, the shitlib and centerists are always closet fascists.

Fuck them. Fuck them. Fuck them. Fuck them. Haven't ever once been outraged at something that has happened in the union in all my years working with them.

I can't go into details, sufficed to say, the gender criticals can get completely fucked. Fuck them.

 No.674080

>>674050
Don't think you're going to piss off trans rights activists, but I'll agree that the shitlib and centerists are always closet fascists. It's why you get so many people who were pseudo-communists at uni but end up "libertarians" when they start paying taxes, some people are just angry and need a scapegoat to pin everything on to feel politically rad to justify that anger but they don't necessarily even understand that you need a solid theory to back up why that is.

That's effectively Nazism isn't it? Pissed off and scapegoating non-Aryans, except those which are honorary Aryans, and some people can have all the traits of supposed Aryans but they're fakes because of their political stance, and these kids we've said are explicitly the untermenschen but we can teach them to be aryan… and it goes on and on meandering from contradiction to contradiction because the important thing is to be radically against everyone who isn't me or in support of me, there's nothing to achieve rather than self-supremacy and if that isn't a description of centrists and shitlibs I dunno what is.

 No.674225

>>672594
t. burger LARPer

 No.674226

>>673278
Simp.
>>674050
Being gender critical is good, it means being against the concept of gender roles which are enforced by our class system. If anything being gender critical is closer to supporting trans rights. Why are transphobic people always referring to themselves with this term?

 No.674248

>>674226
>Being gender critical is good, it means being against the concept of gender roles which are enforced by our class system.
no it doesn't

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 No.675447

>The people that were on trial for knocking down a statue of a slaver were not found guilty by the Jury
Based

 No.675629

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aaaayyyyyyyyyy

 No.675831

>>674050
What is the development?

 No.676720

>>671039
National Car Parks are the fat slob Andy Brooks gravy train.

CPGB-ML cosied up to Galloway over Brexit, some time before Brar stepped down and presumably with his say so. His book "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" is subtitled 'the marketisation of the Chinese economy" so it appears rather than tailing they are trying to walk a tightrope of critical support.

The best the thing to have come out of the RCPBML circle was Cornelius Cardew's broadside against Karlheinz Stockhausen. Fair to say their best days are behind them.

There's also the CPB-ML, of course, and the CPGB-PCC, the EPRG, the Finsbury Communist Association…we're really spoilt for choice…

 No.676730

Isn’t “genders are social constructs “ and “you can have a biological urge to transfer to the opposite gender “ contradictionary?

 No.676762

>>675629
based

>>675831
born with vagina at birth obsessives have couped somebody off a commity using shady tactics because some transhumanistoids said some mean things about them on the internet and he didn't adequately jump to their defence.

Basically the anti woke lot who are like 40 year old adults have become triggered and cancelled somebody using Keir tier tactics.

 No.676814

>>676730
At first glance you could say it's contradictory
At second glance, there might be some language confusion about sex and gender, and you can picture a situation where gender roles are conditionned by society and at the same time there is a biological condition that make some people want to change their sex.
At third glance you can think about the dialectical relation between one's body and social image blurring the the distinction.
To which extent someone who think they possesses the wrong genitalia ought to behave like the stereotype of his inner self ? And reciprocally, does someone who long for the opposite role feels compelled to make their genitals follow? Or is it all a big essentialist spook that make people behave weirdly like other spooks?

 No.676835

>>674226
because when they say "gender" they mean "gender ideology", i.e. "the ideology that believes gender is a thing (and that thing is a social construct)"
but they also want to use slight of hand because, ironically, the "ideology" that believes gender is a thing is critical of gender, rather than just saying it doesn't exist while following all its prescripts as "gender critical" types do.

 No.677579

>>676814
Be damned, if you can't handle it,
We hope you break your neck-
Sex and Death!

 No.678457

Who here watching the Apprentice?

 No.678789

>>674225
Burgers are anglos too. Disgusting

 No.679441

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 No.681835

hello frens

my gf is from america, im bong

where can i move to be with her? very difficult to find countries where we could both get visas (she works fashion, i work data)

thank u

 No.685477



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