Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 17:38:17 No. 641213
NATO wants to be able to advance along Russia’s entire Western Front
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 23:00:42 No. 641591
>Ukraine is worse than Islamist Sudan (2017)
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 23:09:14 No. 641605
44 million people are literal pigs because muh GDP, great thread comrades
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 23:11:29 No. 641609
Why does Russia not just leave them alone
AusJuche !ZXQDW3xEPE 2021-12-11 (Sat) 23:36:30 No. 641630
>>641205 Russia doesn't want NATO tanks/troops/missiles, and more importantly US air missile defences on their border. Why? Because an effective air missile defensive system enricling them effectively ends MAD and creates a realistic means for the US to perform a crippling first strike attack on Russia enough to destroy Russia's ability to respond. Russia's nukes become potentially useless & the country becomes a hostage to nuclear blackmail. End goal of the US isn't nuclear war here, using nuclear blackmail & economic/geopolitical dominance to bring about the Balkanization of Russia (unified Russia even in it's crippled post-Soviet state is too strong of an economic power & thus also geopolitical competittor) which in action would likely lead to a deathtoll in the high 8 figure range at a bare minimum & the permanent impoverishment of the region.
This is why the US wants Ukraine, and why Russia must prevent it. In other words, seizing of Ukraine is a necessary precursor to what would effectively be the largest genocide in history - preventing Ukraine from becoming a NATO member is an outright matter of survival, of life and death for Russia & the Russian people. Whatever you think of Putin & Russia, playing "Neither moscow nor washington" is in action indifference to people who are attempting to resist an attempted encirclingment/strangling which would result in genocide which on scale would dwarf anything which happened in WW2.
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 23:37:10 No. 641631
>>641609 If Ukraine lets NATO in, its ogre for Russia
Also, Russia needs Krimea
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 23:39:37 No. 641637
I feel sad for the Ukrainians that browse this board.
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 23:42:17 No. 641639
>>641637 why? do you really think a leftist ukrainian would support the ukrainian government in destroying the donbass republics?
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 23:42:51 No. 641641
>>641637 >I feel sad for the Ukrainians that browse this board. Apparently this board would be the highlight of their day. Our resident Ukrainian stalks couples in the woods and wants to hire hitmen to murder his parents.
https://leftypol.org/draw/res/1.html#q53 >It's easy to rob or hurt or kill somebody and get out of the country before this person even goes to the police. I can get out of Ukraine within 2 days, quick enough to avoid getting caught. I don't need to hurt them immediately, nice vengeance requires planning and time. People get killed for less than $1500, people get killed for lesser betrayals and for lesser insults, especially in 3rd world pisspoor countries like Ukraine, which is poorer than Turkey, Iran, China or Morocco. A couple of broken teeth is a lottery ticket in my view. If they stole $1500 from mafioso, they would be dead already. I had weeks to plan my vengeance, I can't love any woman even half as strongly as I loved the first one, and I don't experience strong attachment to anything but to the things I collect and the awards I inherited. Taking those things from me is worse than rape or stealing all my money and the apartment, they chose to spit in my face and take whatever dignity and self-esteem I had. I didn't draw because of some love for art, I was drawing to earn money. What for do I need money now if I love no one and I have nothing to cherish? There's only bitter taste of betrayal and hate. Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 23:56:06 No. 641651
>>641641 idk, seems fake to me
why would anyone like this post on leftypol
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 00:11:32 No. 641671
>>641641 Hope he took all the money and left lol
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 00:14:57 No. 641674
>>641651 Nah absolutely real. He's been posting about all this for over a year and on other sites.
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 00:17:11 No. 641675
>>641637 Я з Києва, жив у Новосілках. Мені не нада твого жалю, просто хочу щоб Росія зрівняла з землею цю корумповану про-західну державу
Покинув мою країну у 2015-ому, зараз живу у Великобританії. Мені дуже пощастило
I am from Kiev, lived in Novosilky. I don't need your pity, I just want Russia to raze this corrupt pro-western government
Left my country in 2015 and consider myself very lucky to live in the UK now.
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 00:21:34 No. 641680
>>641675 How strong is the fascist infiltration at this point? Azov batallion is now part of the National Guard, I am sure they captured other institutional positions as well at this point.
Svoboda is still weak electorally but it doesn't really matter if they built sufficient dual power.
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 00:24:41 No. 641685
>>641674 which other sites
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 00:36:02 No. 641710
>>641685 >which other sites None of your business.
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 01:07:13 No. 641762
>>641680 I can't answer the question of the extent of neo-nazi influence in the ukrop state department because I don't have an on the ground understanding of the political arena. However, I do know that the neo-nazi Banderovites themselves only support Maidan and the general pro-EU/NATO movement as a form of realpolitik. They are just playing for time right now.
According to Russel Bentley, a lot of Azov scum is holed up in Mariupol and the Russian Navy can obliterate their coastal bases within an hour.
I was around 13-14 years old when I got the fuck out, I actually had no idea what was going on except "russian invasion" in Lugansk and Donetsk. I also saw many "free yulia" (yulia timoshenko) graffiti sprayed around my area around 2014, wondering what it was about but that's pretty much it.
I am sad for what has become of my country and my people. We had weekly assemblies in school about how evil Russia and Putin are, and that they are massacring innocent ukrainians etc
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 06:44:36 No. 642145
>>641639 >why? because you live in a country that has all the problems of both the third and first world, and the benefits of neither
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 08:21:53 No. 642199
ukraine is a really popular country for hosting servers for the most lawless shit, there are literal CP sites hosted there
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 23:57:05 No. 643146
Can someone post the map of Ukraine showing which areas were donated by Lenin, which areas were donated by the Russian Empire and the original borders of Ukraine?
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 23:58:55 No. 643150
>>641762 "realpolitik" is not the same thing as pragmatism
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 00:02:08 No. 643159
>>641205 >Why are Russia and NATO fighting over this shithole again Power competition. Should NATO be on Russia's door that would be only a matter of years before finally Russia falls due to immense NATO pressure.
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 00:15:31 No. 643180
>>643158 Nice thumbnail, can someone post the map of Ukraine showing which areas were donated by Lenin, which areas were donated by the Russian Empire and the original borders of Ukraine?
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 00:16:40 No. 643183
>>643180 Just reverse image search it if you need it that badly
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 00:19:20 No. 643189
>>643180 I just googled "ukraine gifted lands"
whats your problem with the picture now?
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 00:25:53 No. 643200
>>641630 What about Russia taking over just Donbass and the Azov sea coastline?
Would this improve situation or be useless?
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 00:31:09 No. 643206
>>643200 >Would this improve situation or be useless? 1) Russia will surely be hit by sanctions.
2) The US and Ukraine will wage war.
3) Possible WW3 start.
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 01:17:06 No. 643250
>>643192 What's, funny about this map is half of all of the Ukrainian territory 1654 would belong to Ukrainian free territory/Makhnovshchina
Those anti-communist so bad at geography LOL
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 01:38:53 No. 643264
If the US wants the Ukraine so badly why have they been dragging their feet on NATO membership?
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 01:42:58 No. 643268
Why are they massing troops now? Are they actually going to invade or is it just posturing?
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 02:08:10 No. 643300
>>643286 >Trans
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 02:31:22 No. 643332
>>641205 >Why are Russia and NATO fighting over this shithole again? To loot it.
<Ukraine used to possess great potential, which included powerful infrastructure, gas transportation system, advanced shipbuilding, aviation, rocket and instrument engineering industries, as well as world-class scientific, design and engineering schools. Taking over this legacy and declaring independence, Ukrainian leaders promised that the Ukrainian economy would be one of the leading ones and the standard of living would be among the best in Europe. Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 02:45:47 No. 643350
>>641675 >I just want Russia to raze this corrupt pro-western government >very lucky to live in the UK now. Uhhh what?
302 !!S0wDNa/ZQw 2021-12-13 (Mon) 02:53:24 No. 643354
>>643254 CRITICAL SUPPORT!
302 !!S0wDNa/ZQw 2021-12-13 (Mon) 02:54:25 No. 643358
>>643264 >why have they been dragging their feet on NATO membership? Russia would anschluss it should that happen.
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 02:58:07 No. 643368
>>643345
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 03:02:56 No. 643376
>>643354 Ok so what do you think about Transnistria
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 03:25:37 No. 643391
>>643315 i mean… it's cool, i guess? like i'd rather live there than ukraine but it's just a unique product of the post-soviet political environment and has nothing to do with socialism or the USSR beyond retaining some aesthetics. the current president of pridnestrovie is also a self-proclaimed monarchist who doesn't like the "soviet legacy" in his country.
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 04:03:07 No. 643405
>>643200 Everything east of the Dnieper + rest of Ukraine's black sea coast sounds more likely
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 05:13:42 No. 643453
I want to save Ukraine. What should I do first?
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 05:44:54 No. 643460
>>643315 Anything that prevents the slavs of the region from becoming enslaved by the Wallachoids is good and righteous
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 16:44:36 No. 643923
>>643350 >Uhhh what? I prefer to live in the UK in public housing with my rent paid for by the council, with better quality food and earning more money than I ever would in Ukraine.
>>643453 Accept that you can't do anything as an individual atom.
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 18:17:20 No. 644054
Russia is fucked, Nikocado Avocado will join Azov and storm Moscow
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 22:43:25 No. 644362
>>644050 <I remember that one of my good acquaintances, a socialist, says that now there is a war between the Petlyuraites (followers of the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian People’s Republic Simon Petliura in 1918-1920) and the Great Russian White Guards. The analogy is poor, but in conditions when there is no communist party in the war, as for me, as a Marxist, the choice between the Great Russian White Guards and the Petlyuraites is obvious, in favor of the latter. At the same time, it is clear that we are not even allies, but fellow travelers, until we get to the first traffic light. Interesting perspectives in these texts anon, danke.
>>644351 >glowie is when people have a different opinion to me look would you just fuck off you basic zoomer cunt?
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 04:45:21 No. 644861
>>644362 Glowie is when you advocate for the victory of a Nazi NATO puppet state.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 04:54:45 No. 644875
>>643923 >I prefer to live in the UK in public housing with my rent paid for by the council, with better quality food and earning more money than I ever would in Ukraine. Sounds pretty nice. The Ukrainian anon on here was saying $400 was the average monthly salary in Ukraine.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 04:54:59 No. 644876
>>644050 >Confessions of a Ukrainian Marxist soldier A Marxist who fights for a fascist army is a fascist. I could give a shit what he calls himself.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 05:01:00 No. 644881
>>644877 He openly supports the military victory of the Ukrainian fascist forces. He is a fascist.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 13:54:25 No. 645258
>>644050 >The interest of the working classes (that is, what all workers are interested in) is following: >To have the right to life and liberty; >Have the right to fight for social justice (and therefore — to have freedom of conscience, speech, assembly, strikes, as well as freedom to change power, even by elections); >Actually, to achieve social justice (reasonable limitation of working hours, fair remuneration for honest labour, safety of earned property). "Muh life liberty happiness"
"Working class is when you are a social justice warrior"
Absolute baizuo burger take, expected nothing less of a nihilist website.
>>644362 These articles are garbage pro-western propaganda disguised as anarchism, keep shilling for your western puppet state langley
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 13:56:25 No. 645260
>>645258 >Have the right to fight for social justice (and therefore — to have freedom of conscience, speech, assembly, strikes, as well as freedom to change power, even by elections); >Actually, to achieve social justice (reasonable limitation of working hours, fair remuneration for honest labour, safety of earned property). This is not even the meaning of "social justice" anymore, they can't just hand wave away the contemporary western idpol connotations of the term
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 14:17:09 No. 645278
>>645258 >These articles are garbage pro-western propaganda disguised as anarchism, keep shilling for your western puppet state langley Eh I think it's likely that the world is a more complicated place than you thought, but then again maybe we live in a Manichean society with no blurred lines and everyone who doesn't support the good guys is some sort of CIA spook
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 14:52:58 No. 645304
>>645300 >There's no two separate boxes >But actually there is, liberal really got me there champ
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 15:21:21 No. 645326
>>645304 There are objective forces in our multipolar world, imperialists and anti-imperialists. I'm criticizing liberals like whoever wrote those retarded glowing articles, because they create abstractions out of both sides and assign labels to those abstractions like "muh authoritarianism much nationalism".
The concrete effects of not supporting anti-imperialist forces inevitably benefit pro-western forces, regardless of your personal feelings about the west in general.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 15:25:02 No. 645330
>>645326 I don't care about your funny memes dude
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 15:41:33 No. 645348
>>645332 great, shit no one cares about
>>645338 khmer rouge
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 16:05:36 No. 645390
>>645361 maybe you should back to fbi.gov
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 17:32:35 No. 645529
>>645401 >>645326 >>643254 the conflict is about ethnicity, not ideology
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 17:43:31 No. 645538
>>645529 THIS There are fash on both side of this conflict, just because some texan communist brought into propaganda dont make Donbass some magical anti-fasist resistance. If it is, why the fucck are bulgarian fascists there?
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 18:34:39 No. 645588
>>645545 Ukrane banned the Russian language from being an official language, so Russians rose up and declared a separatist republic.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 18:37:57 No. 645589
>>645529 Majority of Ukrainians don't have an identity at all, they are denationalized and don't care what citizenship they will have tomorrow, will it be Russia or Ukraine is pointless to them.
Most of Ukrainian volonteers from the begining of the war was russian-speaking and i'm 90% sure that this is still the same thing for the today’s mobilized and contract forces.
So if I understood you correctly, then I disagree.
Sorry for my terrible english Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 18:42:15 No. 645593
>>645588 None of the languages are banned in Ukraine. Russian is still taught in schools at will.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 18:43:51 No. 645595
Resources
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 18:48:42 No. 645600
>>645588 >from being an official language Russian never been an official language in Ukraine, only regional untill 2018 and in some regions to this year.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:21:35 No. 645631
>645595
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 09:02:34 No. 658759
Because since Napoleon Russia wanted to build a safety zone on it's western border. And NATO is dismantling that zone since 1990
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 13:01:52 No. 658837
>>658749 No way? Source other than The Daily Disease?
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 13:28:35 No. 658857
>>658749 what did he mean by this?
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 13:33:23 No. 658860
>>658857 He said Lenin created Ukraine, there was nothing about "belong" in the quote.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 23:29:02 No. 659415
>>641608 Every country has females.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 23:57:43 No. 659440
>>659412 If your friend would have some thermometer that measures basedness it would have cracked.
Dormammu 2021-12-25 (Sat) 00:06:57 No. 659443
>>659412 It's a no-sum game because the one on the right has freedom, democratic values, and popular sovereignty to establish represenatitve governments while the one on the left has dictatorial rule
Dormammu 2021-12-25 (Sat) 00:07:11 No. 659444
>>659443 shit, got the directions messed up
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 00:22:47 No. 659453
>>645367 Screenshotted. I'm 100% sure all the Banderite apologists here supported the war in Libya. They'll never change.
>>659443 They may not have had a functional government or economy since the early 1990s but at least they have
Freedom and
Authenticity. >>643261 Absolute fucking chad. I would trade 100 Breadtube grifters for 1 Texas.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 00:38:35 No. 659468
Modern Ukraine is a shell of its former glory of the SSR day. It used to be the main technological and industrial center of the old union.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 00:48:44 No. 659477
ITT: Our friends from Langley try to convince anons to support a Western puppet state with literal neo nazis who locked trade unionists into a building and set it on fire.
The day that people on here openly support Azov Battalion is the day the jannies need to conduct a great purge.
>>641637 >>641609 >>644050 >>644362 >>645529 >>645538 Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 02:55:47 No. 659610
What is the endgame here
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 04:08:43 No. 659678
>>659610 Ukrainian ethnostate
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 05:10:06 No. 659720
>>645529 Worse, it's not even about ethnicity but Western vs Eastern oligarchy alignments and yes, both sides are fash, but the pro-Russian one LARPs as Soviets. I wrote many times on this board where so many naïve burgers ate up RT.com's propaganda:
BEFORE RUSSIAN AGGRESSION MOST UKRAINIANS DID NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT RUSSIANS OR RUSSIAN LANGUAGE I lived in Ukraine as a Russian during the Maidan years, traveled to the "nationalist" West and was never ever questioned about my Moscovite accent (which is different from Ukrainian Russian accent). When people spoke to me in Ukrainian, I replied in Russian – that's how most of Kyiv spoke back then, people just used their favorite language.
The proof that everyone who thinks it's ethnic was propagandized: 94% people in Kharkiv use Russian daily and the region did not join the DNR/LNR just because it was successfully defended from Russian mercenaries back then. Also, lots of people across the country consider themselves Russians and not Russian-speaking Ukrainians, but nobody was purged for that either.
Now, yes, Ukrainians got the ugliest Nazis on display and used USSR=Russia for anti-communism, but it does not make the pro-Russian side less fash and nationalist.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 06:08:01 No. 659766
>>641205 The value is only as the space between NATO and not-NATO. It is where NATO could or could not expand to. That's the majority of its significance
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 07:32:02 No. 659833
>>659722 What's funny here is that Polacks go everywhere else in Europe for work rather than their own trash heap of a pathetic excuse of a nation.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 08:21:26 No. 659846
>>641205 >Why are Russia and NATO fighting over this shithole again. USA promised Ukraine guarding their sovereignty if they scrap their nuclear weapons following soviet collapse.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 08:42:45 No. 659856
>>659833 >Poland joins EU >situation improves >work market from almost whole europe opens up >you have a chance to earn multiple times your minimal wage in Poland >stay and complain this is you
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 08:58:57 No. 659858
>>659857 >muh poor refuggerinos kek
yeah keep using decade old memes as now almost entire eastern flank of EU is for building the wall
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 09:09:16 No. 659859
>>659858 >things are even shittier than they used to be! yeah i know, genius
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 09:12:57 No. 659862
>>659859 Don't know where you're from, but here things are definitely better.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 09:34:35 No. 659866
>>659858 These countries are all like poland
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 09:42:15 No. 659872
The Ukranian situation is going to become a huge problem down the track. The Ukranian government gave groups like the Azov Batallion and Right Sector their own parts of the government, and they outright recruit foreign neo-nazis with the intent of training them. Russia, also, though it supports these people quite a lot less, tolerates nazis going over the border to fight.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 09:47:49 No. 659874
>>659872 Military* not government.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 09:53:08 No. 659878
>>659866 what do you mean?
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 10:00:54 No. 659883
>>659872 >Ukrainian nazis are fighting Russian nazis for right to form their own nazi government oblast within Ukraine do you seriously believe that's what is happening?
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 10:27:55 No. 659902
>>659883 Are you retarded? That wasn't said at any point in the post.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 10:30:38 No. 659904
>>659902 are you?
>Ukrainian government recruits nazis >Russian government supports nazis going over the border to fight (Ukrainian nazis) Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 10:42:30 No. 659909
>>659904 They're not fighting for the right to form a nazi oblast, nor have I said that at any point. Both governments, have, however, taken advantage of the neo nazi movements within their countries and used them to their advantage.
The Azov Batallion, whose leadership is almost entirely ultranationalists and neo nazis, pic related, was legitimized by the Ukranian government and folded into the official military. Their intelligence/policing force was also legitimized.
Separatist forces in have included neo-nazi groups also, which the Russian government has give or take turned a blind eye to. It's not nearly the same level as it is with the Ukranian government.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 10:50:50 No. 659912
>>659909 To further clarify, while I'm not entirely sure about groups like Russian National Unity, Azovfags and friends have gone out of their own way to recruit foreign neo-nazis and train them up, who will go back home with this experience.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 10:56:20 No. 659913
>>641630 this guy seems like he knows what he's talking about ngl
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 11:01:53 No. 659916
1. Ukraine and Russia aren't going to go to war.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 11:21:38 No. 659923
>>659916 >2. The bourgeois government of Russia is just as pro-fascist and anti-communist as that of Ukraine. >Ukrainian proletarians need communist organisation and solidarity from abroad, their party is effectively banned as is the case in the Baltic republics and Romania. So Ukraine is more fascist than Russia, which hasn't banned the Communist Party. Try to not contradict yourself in the same post, Pseudorkovsky.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 11:43:49 No. 659929
>>659923 In Russia it's harassed, many of their deputies were arrested recently, plus the massive fraud to stop KPRF gains in September.
It's a cunt hair's difference. Communists shouldn't take side in fake bourgeois disputes.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 17:11:53 No. 660226
>>659916 the correct take, Russia is the blackest reaction Stalin predicted
I despise this shit with all my heart, this pathetic LARP started in the early 2010s when Putin decided he need some nation-building myth
t. русский
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 16:35:41 No. 662988
>>659940 cool. Now when all your national media are doing war propaganda against one of the two side, and your side is the one that has initiated hostility against the other, causing massive risk of escalating war to prop up neofascists and their imperial interests and to the detriment of your country economy by raising the energy prices, you just cover you ears and shout "MUH BOTH SIDES!!"
retard. Countering propaganda by actual geopolitical analysis should be the minimum I expect from comrades, but apparently its too hard, you have to play the ultra and wank to your larping without involving yourself in international solidarity for the people that gonna get bombed for US interest.
anyone who counter an analysis with "muh support" for one side of the other is just a moron. Your support means absolutely nothing anyway. At least try to have an interesting and nuanced take.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 16:39:12 No. 662993
>>659916 >1. Ukraine and Russia aren't going to go to war. <no way ww1 happens, nobody actually wants it ! but they're not the ones repressing an ethnic minority for their fascist larp, or putting missiles of your enemy on your frontier
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 16:40:49 No. 662995
>>659916 Leninhat actually making a good post for once.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 16:49:25 No. 663004
>>662995 I don't support the Russian Federation and Putin because Russia is now a capitalist hell hole but i do support novorossiya because they are fighting against NATO and Ukrainian fascists.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 16:50:00 No. 663005
>>662995 I actually agree with Lenin hat because social imperialism is no better than regular imperialism
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 16:52:49 No. 663007
>>663004 >>662997 The D/LPR are movements based around legitimate grievances regarding the rights of ethnic Russians in Ukraine, but at the same time their entire existence is dependent on support from Moscow, without which they would quickly collapse. It's not really possible for them to have an independent agenda.
>>662988 Wtf are you on about m8? Leninhat's entire point was that Western socialists should agitate against NATO aggression in Ukraine and Russia.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 17:45:19 No. 663054
>>663021 >Because novorossiya/could be described as Spanish Republicans Not in the slightest.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 17:56:43 No. 663066
>>663054 I am comparing the situation in Ukraine to the Spanish Civil War because I have noticed some similarities
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 18:01:00 No. 663072
>>663066 Yeah but they're pretty superficial. Sure, the Ukrainian government has some pretty strong fascist elements, but the L/DPR are not communists. The entire thing is just a proxy conflict between competing capitalist states. We genuinely have no dog in this fight, our only task is to agitate for non-intervention in our respective countries,
though imo a Russian/separatist victory would probably be the preferable outcome. Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 18:02:32 No. 663075
>>663072 I would agree with you
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 18:15:26 No. 663082
Might have something to do with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR7XAcArAa0 tl;dr russias border with ukraine is hard to defend and its open fields all the way to the oil fields. Moving the border to the river would make it much easier. But also just securing their connection to crimea.
King Lear 2021-12-30 (Thu) 18:04:29 No. 667056
Honestly, this has to be the most cringe, LARPy, and irrelevant “conflict” in the entire world (the Ukrainians LARP as Nazis and the Pro-Russian Separatists LARP as Soviets when both sides are really just Oligarch-controlled Fascist gangsters making a mockery of the USSRs grave), which is why I like to call it the Dumbass “War”, LOL.
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 09:54:37 No. 667929
>>659916 >The bourgeois government of Russia is just as pro-fascist No it isn't you fucking retard. Russia has harsh laws against the glorification of Nazism. Russia has zero laws that openly suppress communism like Ukraine does.
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 09:58:12 No. 667930
>>659940 >The foremost hatred of communists should always be reserved for the bourgeoisie in their own country. This is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. Should Iraqi communists have hated the Iraqi bourgeoisie more than the American one?
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 12:28:08 No. 668011
>>667930 Maybe if they had they would still exist.
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 15:09:36 No. 668089
>>667930 Yes, why do you even ask?
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 15:21:17 No. 668093
One of the energy grids on the planet is located on Ukraine, world leaders want the land so they can build a planetary harvesting machine in accordance with the poles of the Earth and Kabbalah. It will be the only safe place once the polar shift happens in 2030.
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 16:17:26 No. 668121
>>667056 Based King Lear as always. I said the same above.
>>667929 Give it time and the Russian bourgeoisie will rehabilitate Andrey Vlasov. They've already done it with Denikin and Kolchak, not that much of a leap to the nazis. Also fascism is more than just German nazism.
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 17:36:15 No. 668167
>>668121 Seethe more cuckjeet
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 17:56:08 No. 668188
>>641205 USA is transforming into a resource extraction colony ala Russia, because there's nothing else USA can export, and for that to happen they need a market to export to. Russia holds Europe as it's market very firmly, so USA tries to dislodge Russia from Europe.
Funniest shit, eh?
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 18:09:26 No. 668202
>>641608 ugly as fucking sin
Anonymous 2021-12-31 (Fri) 18:20:07 No. 668210
>>668167 Talk sense please or fuck off.
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 00:12:11 No. 668610
>>662995 When do I ever make bad posts?
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 02:44:53 No. 668836
>>659909 There was a meme which contained this photo and a photo of a DSA flag with a a NATO flag. Can anyone post that meme?
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 03:03:01 No. 668855
check the burger thread
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 03:05:31 No. 668858
>>668610 Every single day.
I'm being sincere.
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 03:08:04 No. 668860
>>659415 Luxembourg does not have females.
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 03:33:11 No. 668892
>>641205 Russians are traitors and traitors deserve worse fate than our enemies. NO SYMPATHY FOR THESE ANIMALS THAT PRETEND TO BE NICE GUYS BUT THEY ARE WORSE THAN UYGHURS IN REAL LIFE.
(glow in the dark cia uyghur) Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 03:35:25 No. 668894
>>668855 No most anti-russian people are not russian neighbors of russia. These subhuman failures pretend to be human until you meet them in daily life. AIDS ridden junkies are pretty close what they are after Jeltsin.
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 03:39:54 No. 668902
>>668896 No I'm not amerimutt trash. I'm Finnish ubermensch compared to you.
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 03:41:43 No. 668905
>heya fellas lets support 3rd world fascism just because they used to communist
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 03:44:31 No. 668909
>critical support for nazi-germany because england and france are mean to these uyghurs
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 04:11:25 No. 668956
>>668902 >>668902 > ubermensch Ah, a 2nd philosophy semester stundent. Pleb
Also, whatever CIA spook.
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 04:13:44 No. 668962
>>668956 Keep projecting your infantilism to others.
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 04:14:56 No. 668963
>>668962 Supporting neo nazis is very mature, CIA spook.
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 04:15:41 No. 668964
>>668963 You seem very intelligent. Im drunk and even im not this retarded.
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 16:18:02 No. 669383
Daily reminder that “Ukrainians” are literally just reactionary Russians, a distinction made up by the Germans as a way of dividing the Russian people to make them easier to conquer(go back)
Anonymous 2022-01-01 (Sat) 16:32:57 No. 669393
>>669383 That's an argument of Russian nationalists, not communists.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 11:07:09 No. 685010
Good topic
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