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 No.643934

Every now and again I remember that there is like 7 billion flesh-things with personalities and experiences unique to them that can never be truly communicated, 7 billion little isolated worlds between which we can only bridge through the stop-gap measure of language. Even though we had been socialized to think in the term of language, language can never encompass the totality of what we think, and so even the most fluent and expressive users of their languages could never hope to express the totality of their thoughts. And even if, by some laborious process, we made a language fully capable of expressing the totality of the human imagination, the time it would take to speak one thought would cause them to have a cascade of thoughts about how they spoke, how the idea was received, thousands more words to speak produced by only a scant dozen. Our minds outpace our tongues, and so there are 7 billion little uncrackable enigmas out there.

So then, is this condition of the human psyche a constituent part of how the self is perceived against the masses? When we see the self as abstracted from the other, is the other only the other because of the great degree to which we recognize their humanity, but the limited degree to which we can understand that humanity (through speech, emotion, ect.)? Is our point of references for feeling small and alone a natural component of our psyche, or is it a result of this gulf we recognize and yet cannot cross?

Increasingly, I believe in the idea of the Tabula Rasa, that there is nothing inherent to the construct of man at birth. We learn to breathe because our lungs cry for air. We learn to eat so it quiets our stomachs. We learn to feel because we learn the self. And we learn loneliness, for once we find the self, we begin to see it in others - so distant, and yet we desire it so much.

 No.643941

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>>643934
>Increasingly, I believe in the idea of the Tabula Rasa
Maybe you should look at the science of psychology instead of stuff dreamt up by some old school assoomers that's been largely deboonked. A decent place to start is Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution.

 No.644266

>>643941
Locke denied intrinsic "clear and distinct" (or determinate) ideas or "innate principles." He didn't believe humans were literally "blank slates," even though every midwit who's "heard of philosophy" thinks he did. If you prefer it from the horse's mouth, here's Locke himself:
<It is an established opinion amongst some men, That there are in the understanding certain innate principles; some primary notions, κοιναὶ ἔννοιαι, characters, as it were stamped upon the mind of man, which the soul receives in its very first being; and brings into the world with it. It would be sufficient to convince unprejudiced readers of the falseness of this supposition, if I should only show (as I hope I shall in the following parts of this discourse) how men, barely by the use of their natural faculties, may attain to all the knowledge they have, without the help of any innate impressions; and may arrive at certainty, without any such original notions or principles. For I imagine anyone will easily grant, that it would be impertinent to suppose, the ideas of colours innate in a creature, to whom God hath given sight, and a power to receive them by the eyes, from external objects: and no less unreasonable would it be to attribute several truths, to the impressions of nature, and innate characters, when we may observe in ourselves faculties, fit to attain as easy and certain knowledge of them, as if they were originally imprinted on the mind.
He doesn't deny "powers" or the capacity to receive colors (if one has sight and color vision). Modern opposition to his view here would be something like Jung's archetypes, although the usual example in philosophy is Plato's notion of anamnesis as recollection of knowledge known before birth.

 No.644271

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>>643934
>Increasingly, I believe in the idea of the Tabula Rasa,
>that there is nothing inherent to the construct of man at birth.
>We learn to breathe because our lungs cry for air.
>We learn to eat so it quiets our stomachs.
>We learn to feel because we learn the self.
>And we learn loneliness, for once we find the self, we begin to see it in others
>- so distant, and yet we desire it so much.

 No.644278

>>644271
that was kinda the intention thanks

 No.644328

>>644266
>Modern opposition to his view here would be something like Jung's archetypes
We do in fact have "archetypes" of a kind already built into us, but they are not really like what Jung described. We have in-built archetypes for recognizing things like babies or snakes or fertile land that provokes responses that transcend culture. Humans have instincts just like any other animal. We just also have the ability to think beyond that and engage in abstraction and communication in ways other animals cannot.

 No.644414

>>643934
>ANGLO DETECTED
>POSITIVIST DECTECED
>EVO-PSYCH NERD DETECTED

 No.644630

>>644328
>We have in-built archetypes for recognizing things like babies or snakes or fertile land that provokes responses that transcend culture.
So how does the fertile land archetype play into recognizing and responding to fertile land? How much does this archetype contain regarding agricultural techniques? Really, this misunderstands "fertile" to begin with, since the word is supposed to bear some relation to an assessment of the land in relation to its ability to bear vegetation of some sort.

Humans also used to expose infants at birth semi-frequently, whether due to genetic defects, suspicions about the child's parentage by the father, or simply the desire of the mother (or household) to be rid of the child. Even leaving exposure aside, religious practices like child sacrifice and individual attitudes of disgust, indifference and hatred have all been "responses" to infants. To maintain the thesis of an "archetype" here dictating recognition and response, despite all contrary evidence, would be "a stretch," to say the least.

It's obvious there are capacities to recognize these things, in the sense that we have faculties by which we can single them out as such, but there are no innate ideas about them.
>Humans have instincts just like any other animal.
Instincts don't identify snakes. I may react "by instinct" from seeing a snake, but this is only so far as a snake is or seems dangerous (i.e. so far as I've learned snakes are dangerous and react in fear), not because of innate ideas everyone has about snakes. But this is a good example of the sort of nonsense Locke was writing against.

 No.644655

>>644630
id say one of the few things you are born with is the desire to coom, but what you want to coom to is not innate. How the fuck you gonna be a shoe fetishist if you've never seen a shoe? How can you be attracted to women if you never seen a women? these desires are get imprinted onto you at a young age, but are still not innate.

 No.669948

Humans naturally seek social approval as an evolutionary trait to survive in groups. The global population being as large as it is can make someone’s sense of identity feel insignificant. According to blank state theory this isn’t a permanent problem and can be corrected with pharmaceutical drugs and therapies.

 No.670262

>>643934
>Increasingly, I believe in the idea of the Tabula Rasa, that there is nothing inherent to the construct of man at birth.
Other than DNA?

 No.670452

Tabula Rasa is fucking stupid but the answer is working towards a hivemind obviously

 No.670454

>>644630
>Instincts don't identify snakes. I may react "by instinct" from seeing a snake, but this is only so far as a snake is or seems dangerous (i.e. so far as I've learned snakes are dangerous and react in fear), not because of innate ideas everyone has about snakes. But this is a good example of the sort of nonsense Locke was writing against.
You litterally have instinctual responses to snakes, just like the other monkeys. This is testible with babies and monkeys who have never seen snakes, yet are afraid of them.

You're fucking dumb.

 No.670475

>>670262
Citing two explicit white supremacists/genetic determinists and their HBD book, could have picked a better example unless you're sympathetic to hereditarian Pol stuff.

 No.670476

>>643941
>psychology
>science

 No.670478

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Healthcare pls


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