Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 18:23:33 No. 646941
>>646757 This is one of his based takes. Not having kids is malthusian, and the idea is to fight back against the ruling class, not deprive you of having kids.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 21:22:09 No. 647225
>>646757 It’s not about turning women into incubators. It’s more about encouraging procreation as a part of post-revolutionary optimism. That should be a beautiful thing.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 21:31:17 No. 647238
>>644346 When will mods ban this unfunny larping /siberia/ retard
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 21:35:13 No. 647244
>>647238 When will you click the minus sign and stop hurting yourself by caring about a dumb thread?
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 22:53:54 No. 647358
>>645903 >LA is majority Latino and the vast majority of Latinos have indigenous ancestry They're nit indigenous to the LA area though. What, do you think they're going to launch a Latino revolution to make LA an independent city-state, then immediately cede all power to the Tongva?
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 22:56:32 No. 647362
>>646757 Yes, he is fucking right, we are BELOW REPLACEMENT RATES niffo.
10 kids is a bit overkill though
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 23:56:55 No. 647426
>>647362 To be fair, children in socialism would almost certainly be raised collectively so mothers wouldn't be burdened with having to provide for 10+ kids.
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 06:50:16 No. 647868
>>646694 Maupin is using a selective sample fallacy.
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 15:16:59 No. 648200
>>646757 Maybe the solution here is for men to shut the fuck up about human reproduction since they're not the ones who have to go through pregnancy and childbirth?
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 16:23:19 No. 648249
I wanted to say something about the current Land Back movement as well as the church burnings which occurred in Canada last summer.
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 18:50:51 No. 648427
>>648249 >blah blah blah The indigenous still have a right to resist.
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 19:19:54 No. 648467
>>648360 This. Mfs are talking about this as if Natives don't regularly make it explicitly clear exactly what they want.
>Respect treaties >Basic infrastructure >Don't he racist Simple as.
>>648427 That's beside the point of which tactics are effective or not. The nature of the struggle between indigenous people and settler leafs/burgers is fundamentally different from those of the Algerians, Vietnamese, or even black South Africans and Palestinians. This requires different tactics and goals.
Anonymous 2021-12-16 (Thu) 23:12:20 No. 648777
>>648249 Also imagine the economic collapse that would if there was a nakba of white people.
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 02:14:44 No. 648951
>>648427 Church burnings aren't going to do shit to help the indigenous. If anything, all they're going to do is make whitey more hostile. No one sees a burning Catholic church in the middle of the Canadian prairie and says: "golly gee wiz, the settler-colonial project of Canada was a mistake." They look at a burning church and say: "better bring my pistol with me to mass next time."
Anonymous 2021-12-17 (Fri) 05:45:27 No. 649117
>>649115 Am I the only one who thinks he looks fat in the thumbnail?
Anonymous 2021-12-19 (Sun) 05:07:17 No. 652018
>>652014 >AndeanComintern answering to Fidel Cashflow Damn I hate those fucking larpers
Anonymous 2021-12-19 (Sun) 09:02:33 No. 652208
>>652014 This is Tel Aviv liberal logic; "I'm not the bad guy, it's just those uncouth people on the frontier! Why do I get grouped in with them?"
Anonymous 2021-12-19 (Sun) 10:50:08 No. 652273
>>644330 >Give me ONE LOGICAL REASON why picrel isn't a form of Land Back. Because the "Black Belt" is not in any sense the ancestral homeland of black people and the majority of black people don't live there, even if African Americans form a majority/plurality ethnic group along many parts of that region.
The national homeland of African Americans is the entire United States not any one part of it. It's also somewhat disingenuous to compare advocating for a black ethnic oblast in the time of Segregation and Jim Crow to the advocacy of woke ethnostates now.
The only nations that are genuinely colonized and genuinely separate from the American nation are the indigenous tribes, and while I think we should support efforts to return important ancestral regions to these nations, you still have Gonzaloid types who argue for some bizarre attempt at restoring the pre-Colombian era except for black people for some reason.
Anonymous 2021-12-19 (Sun) 11:11:36 No. 652296
>>652014 If Israeli socialists were to propose a one state solution, with rights of return and equality for Palestinians, and a transformed national identity based around the shared history of Jews and Palestinians, would this be a bad thing? I mean, most people here favour a one state solution anyway, and obviously such a state would have to develop a concept of itself compatible with its dual-national character. This would be the model of patriotic socialism as applied to Israel.
Anonymous 2021-12-19 (Sun) 19:56:06 No. 652885
>>644330 It has nothing to do with what you call "land back", since that land was never taken from them to begin with, and the blacks are actually the majority on those lands, unlike Amerindians in America.
Anonymous 2021-12-19 (Sun) 20:07:29 No. 652900
>>652885 The lands the indigenous want back are the lands where they are the majority, as well as all federal lands since all that land is being governed unjustly.
Anonymous 2021-12-20 (Mon) 00:45:11 No. 653319
why should i as a socialist care about giving "the indigenous people" autonomy? their leadership is as incompetent, corrupt and full of capitalists as everyone else within this country's political system we should not be talking about "respecting treaties" those treaties, the revised treaties and the "autonomy" native land is granted has always benefited native upper class types while everyone else is left to fight for scraps, we should talking about trying to find a way to bring these native tribes into socialism by any means possible we should be actively calling for the heads of people that run reservations in mansions while others aren't even allowed to have drinking water
Anonymous 2021-12-21 (Tue) 09:40:55 No. 655141
>>653319 >why should i as a socialist care about giving "the indigenous people" autonomy? It's consistent with Marxism.
Anonymous 2021-12-22 (Wed) 19:03:30 No. 656911
>>645791 Honestly these needs to be discussed more often as an alternative whenever the Landback memers start grifting
Anonymous 2021-12-22 (Wed) 22:38:29 No. 657075
>>645791 >privatising all public land into the hands of native americans, effectively putting it outside of control of the government and laws of the USA, while still allowing the capitalists to operate and develop the land. When has this ever been the case?
Anonymous 2021-12-23 (Thu) 08:40:19 No. 657576
>>649115 Maupin is offensive to all five senses.
Anonymous 2021-12-26 (Sun) 22:26:17 No. 662099
If the Black Belt shit is land back, then Appalachian separatism is also land back.
Anonymous 2021-12-26 (Sun) 22:35:23 No. 662117
>>646757 You don’t need women to do that. Whatabout the Trangoids?
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 00:29:57 No. 662238
>>662099 Appalachians are settlers. Give their lands back to the Cherokee.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 00:35:30 No. 662239
Personally I’d love to create some small ethnostates. Northwest for whites but we would need ocean access and that’s where all the transhumanists and self hating whites live.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 00:41:26 No. 662244
>>645791 The US is a corporate capitalist state. The land already belongs to corporations in league with the government, because THEY ARE the government. Whether the land belongs to a native sovereign confederacy or the US, it would still encroach on the land whenever it finds the opportunity. The difference with land back is if the land becomes the sovereign property of this native confederacy, when the corporations and the US state come knocking it'll be "officially" an act of invasion which would be hilarious how the government would try and justify that. And I imagine you being a capitalist and petty bourgeois PMC, you have a stake in preserving the capitalist US state and even for them invading sovereign lands if they ever became so. Land back wouldn't hurt you or make your life better, but what it WOULD do is create amazing situations where the US government bis clearly trying to invade foreign lands and God forbid some white folk who live in sovereign Indian lands don't like the US state or corporations encroaching on their land and so they grab their rifles and start a regional war.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 00:43:55 No. 662246
>>662239 Ethnostates are sub-brain. What you need are bi-ethnostates.
Black men and white women.
White men and asian women.
Asian men and black women.
Arabs are honorary asian. South american are honorary whites.
Sounds unsustainably at first glance but with a small amount of co-operative government planning this utopia is easily achievable.
You literally can't prove me wrong.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 00:44:41 No. 662247
>>662099 Based Ray O. Light CHAD
🍀 Shay 🍀 2021-12-27 (Mon) 00:50:35 No. 662251
>>662246 W-why put black men and white women together in an e-ethnostate…?
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 00:54:19 No. 662255
>>644798 >>645791 The biggest single group of landowners in the US is WHITE HOMEOWNERS, not corporations, not the federal government. These aren't issues where you can scapegoat corporations or the government. The blame rests mostly on the settlers themselves. Homeownership for whites needs to be heavily scrutinized for this reason.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 01:22:56 No. 662278
>>662255 The rate of home ownership in socialist countries is much, much higher than it is in most of the capitalist West.
Saying "abolish homeownership" is an insult to the Chinese, Vietnamese, Cuban, Nicaraguan, etc. socialists who fought (and sometimes died) to have a government that would provide housing to all. Nicaragua and Cuba both have large numbers of "settlers" (white people) yet they receive all the benefits of socialism that the colonized peoples do, including owning a home.
Fuck off with your primitivist nonsense.
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 06:30:37 No. 686428
>>656687 How, sorry for the necrobump but i'm digging into this just now
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