Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:27:35 No. 645639
Aren't most people miserable there
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:34:37 No. 645647
>>645634 Japanese have a cultural habit at looking away when something's wrong, that's why hikkis can leech off their family until quite late in their life
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:36:33 No. 645652
>>645634 >Why capitalism works in Japan? Read about karoshi
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:40:47 No. 645656
What do they know of the world tho, they don't really allow any stranger to come and history is not taught proper in school, they just spark some in a frankenstein subject they call "social studies"
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:43:20 No. 645660
Japanese culture just goes along perfectly well with the capitalist logic. Their huge entertainment/culture industry require capitalism to work. Japan will lose its unique identity if it ever abandons capitalism.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:46:12 No. 645665
>>645656 The country is culturally totally isolated from the rest of the world it's fucking ridiculous
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:46:49 No. 645666
>>645656 >What do they know of the world tho, they don't really allow any stranger to come Wrong, enough with this bullshit.
>>645660 >Japan will lose its unique identity if it ever abandons capitalism. Japan's "unique identity" predates capitalism
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:50:30 No. 645670
>>645666 >Japan's "unique identity" predates capitalism That Japan is dead. What we now associate with Japan is a result of what they did in 70s/80s reinventing their culture due to their prosperous economy.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:54:32 No. 645678
>>645670 I understand what you mean now, but what makes think this can't happen again under socialism?
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:57:38 No. 645684
>>645666 >Wrong, enough with this bullshit. Japan has 2% of strangers an teaches history like shit, turns out people know nothing about the world and think capitalism is good for it
France has 10% of strangers and teaches history like a proper subject, turns out people know about the world and how capitalism is bad
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:59:28 No. 645687
>>645634 Why did feudalism 'work' for thousands of years herpa derpa
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 19:59:34 No. 645688
No? Japan is one of, if not the, least happy countries major countries in the world. They have had basically zero economic growth since the 90s. They are technologically and scientifically aboriginal compared to the US at this point. They have a grinding and insane work culture. I actually really like Japan and its people/culture, but I can acknowledge that their goose is now cooked, and has been since their recession in the 90s. I've been to Japan. It's nothing like what you think. It's really low tech and the people there look seriously grumpy.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:01:13 No. 645689
>>645678 I just don't think socialism is good for that shit. You need markets and heavy exploitation for that. Otherwise it'll just be something trivial people do as a hobby and rarely do large scale projects can spring out of such attitudes.
It's just unabashed exploitation and neoliberal logic that leads to weird shit like maid cafe, vtubers, renting gf and all that shit in Japan.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:02:49 No. 645691
uh how can japan be a bad place to live? isn't it supposed to be magical anime land with catgirls?
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:07:36 No. 645696
>>645684 What kind of comparison is this?
>>645688 >They are technologically and scientifically aboriginal compared to the US at this point Eh, not sure about this one. The baffling thing is that they're basically the only country that doesn't trust electric cars and it's gambling on "green" hydrogen.
>It's really low tech and the people there look seriously grumpy. Depends on the place, honestly.
>645689 >It's just unabashed exploitation and neoliberal logic that leads to weird shit like maid cafe, vtubers, renting gf and all that shit in Japan. Sure, those all byproducts of capitalism but it's not like they only know how to produce weird shit for alienated individuals.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:08:17 No. 645698
>>645634 >universities hard to get into, but OK afterwards >stressful but clear rules of jobhunting >actually clear jobhunting season >every worker have access to overtime pay >wages are high Japan is corporate world with clear rules. It's not "nice", but people can focus on their work and be """fairly""" rewarded for it.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:08:37 No. 645699
In Japan it's a taboo thing to be an actual leftist. You shouldn't be political to begin with. They think you're just justifying your incompetence if you point out any structural issues. It doesn't help that they are mostly sealed off from the world and within Japan no one does leftist analysis.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:12:21 No. 645710
>>645696 >What kind of comparison is this? Just explaining to you that if you keep a bunch of people ignorant and isolated from the outside world they won't think of anything bad about the effect capitalism has on it.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:14:47 No. 645712
>>645696 >it's not like they only know how to produce weird shit for alienated individuals. They are mostly known for that aside from tourism. It's all about weird otaku subcultures that attracts people to Japan these days.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:14:51 No. 645713
>>645710 >what is dialectics the post get a job
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:16:51 No. 645718
>>645698 >universities hard to get into you forgot the part where your parents have to do an interview with the preschool board and show they're economically successful and educated enough so you can get in it as a little child so you can have a chance to get to the good primary school so you can get a chance to get to the good high school so you can get a chance to go to college, if you work all the time mindlessly learning an enormous amount of shit by heart that is.
Turns out the productivity is shit in Japan, weird huh
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:22:03 No. 645724
>>645634 I'm more interested in why France is always boiling with leftist radicalism.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:25:04 No. 645729
>>645698 This is true, but wages are stagnating. In the last 30 years they increased by only 4%. Still better than a lot of other countries, though.
>>645712 >It's all about weird otaku subcultures that attracts people to Japan these days. I can't deny that there are people like that, but most people just want to see temples and things like that, not cringy shit like maid cafè.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:29:17 No. 645739
>>645718 >you forgot the part where your parents have to do an interview with the preschool board and show they're economically successful and educated enough so you can get in it as a little child so you can have a chance to get to the good primary school so you can get a chance to get to the good high school so you can get a chance to go to college, if you work all the time mindlessly learning an enormous amount of shit by heart that is. Same thing happens in the US, though, and in the UK. Students from expensive private schools in the US and "public schools" in the UK comprise much of the student body in the higher-tier "elite" universities. While I'm not sure if it's to a similar extent, the process you're describing is far from unknown in the West, and I wouldn't be surprised if the system originally mimicked the US or UK, or some combination of Western educational systems with this "elite filtering" as a goal, even if Japan's system has become something all its own at this point.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:32:59 No. 645746
>>645739 I think Japan's educational system was modeled on the American one so it checks out.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 20:33:22 No. 645747
>>645724 It's just the culture that promotes people to be as eccentric and punk as possible. So everyone gets radicalized in all directions, not just the left, coming up with eccentric takes and questioning basically everything.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 21:37:22 No. 645844
>>645696 >The baffling thing is that they're basically the only country that doesn't trust electric cars and it's gambling on "green" hydrogen. German porky is doing so too weirdly enough, I guess it's because neither Germany nor Japan have the capacity to actually build big enough batteries economically enough for purely electric cars to make sense for their car industry. It was a huge topic of debate here in Germany a few years ago.
Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 22:02:20 No. 645891
>>645634 They have a strong culture and tradition for respect of others that even CEOs apologize for the smallest thing. Their CEOs don't even earn as much as others, and there is so much in the culture that looks down on greed that capitalists don't even try and exploit chances to get rich.
The last time a family tried to get a monopoly over everything, they ate them alive. Not literally, but figuratively.
Here:
https://youtu.be/5_-Ac68FKG4 Anonymous 2021-12-14 (Tue) 22:46:05 No. 645951
>>645891 CEOs get a lot of money under-the-table (generally through expensive gifts) that's why they're ok with a relatively low pay.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 00:20:52 No. 646100
what 700+ years of fascist dictatorship do to a mf
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 01:12:27 No. 646169
>>645654 Honestly that graph makes me worry about South Korea, not Japan.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 01:36:52 No. 646211
All the ones that are unhappy commit sudoku.yes this is a scientifically peer reviewed comment and you cant have the sources
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 01:40:25 No. 646218
It doesn't, Japan has plenty of NEETs/hikikomoris, an abyssal birthrate, a low productivity per hour worked, and the central bank is taking quantitative easing to the next level by directly buying shares of corporations to keep the economy afloat. They never recovered from the 90s Asian crisis.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 02:02:54 No. 646237
>>645670 that japan is dead since the 1800s. realise that japan is just an azn LARPing as a white boi (literally the reason they chimped out. they didn't catch on that making empires became uncool and were deeply insecure), and other white bois like japan the most because its the most white boi monkey.
otherwise agreed
>>645725 B*SED
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 03:21:12 No. 646299
>>646237 totally reductive logic. they saw what europe was doing to china and southeast asia and didn't want to receive the same treatment.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 03:28:03 No. 646306
The OP image just shows they are the most cucked nations where people believe in capitalist propaganda without question The Western Fake News MSM portrays Japan in a very flattering way, due to it being an obedient vassal state. However Japan is in many ways worse than the Westernoid nations to live in.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 15:45:38 No. 646725
>>646318 Weebshit media is mostly liberal ttashy
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 15:54:12 No. 646732
>capitalism works in Japan Does it? Just because any opposition to it was thoroughly exterminated over there doesn't mean shit's any good.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 15:58:49 No. 646740
>>645634 >Why capitalism works in Capitalism doesn't work in japan , look at their demographics, they're dying out.
>>645634 >leftism totally irrelevant in Japan post graph where over a 3rd of the Japanese population hates capitalism
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 16:02:38 No. 646746
>>646732 Yeah and to add to this I don't think that having to make up a new word for working yourself literally to death is any good indication that Capitalism works in Japan.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 16:05:45 No. 646752
Wtf I love SEA again?!
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 16:10:31 No. 646762
>>646318 is Muramasa worth reading? If it's just libshit ideology than i might pass on it
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 16:10:31 No. 646763
Genuinely impressive how a tag team of tech corporations, travel agencies and animation studios psyopped the entire world into thinking there exists a magical country that absolutely doesn't have to deal with the same fucking problems the rest of the world does.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 16:12:20 No. 646767
>>646763 For certain people (right-wingers) the only problems a society could have are brown people and leftists.. Japan managed to trick everyone into thinking they don't have both.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 16:24:36 No. 646785
>>646762 Pure libshit pacifist bullshit. It literally strawmans a leftist in one route.
Anonymous 2021-12-15 (Wed) 16:42:11 No. 646812
Japan got as big as it did though economic dirigism and cooperation between government and various industrial concerns with an eye towards exports. They also have a banking sector that is subservient to industrial part of the economy. As soon as
>>645725 happened, however, they killed their own economy at the orders of the US and have stagnated since (except for a suicidal real estate bubble).
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 04:45:02 No. 658610
>>646173 Well third world countries usually have low suicide rate.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 04:47:37 No. 658612
>>645699 and? isn't like half the population social outcasts anyways, what are you even losing
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:32:54 No. 658640
>>645634 >Lost decade is now in it's 40s Yeah, nah. Capitalism doesn't work for Japan. Basically stagnant GDP for 40 years - how's that a success lmao
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:34:09 No. 658642
>>645746 French. American was modeled on the Prussian fucking vocational one, and is the only one to still use it.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:34:30 No. 658643
>>647842 Oh, so, japanese economy has actually shrunk? We all know about the destruction brought by the 90s onto USSR, but apparently we need to also take notice of the totally peaceful degeneration of Japan at the same time
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:37:03 No. 658645
>>658644 Japan is shit in a lot of ways. Social atomization without growth to cover for it has wrecked that country
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:39:19 No. 658649
>>658648 You understand what the word social atomization means right?
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:40:49 No. 658652
>>658640 >>645634 EVERYONE HERE NEEDS TO READ THE BOOK PRINCE OF YEN
japan through dirigsme created a massive economic growth for the country
and then free markets came into the country took over the japanese central bank and uh
lets just say they did to the japanese economy what gorbie did to the soviet economy
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:41:35 No. 658654
>>658652 > free markets uh what i meant to say is brainwashed free marketers came into the country and took over the japanese central bank
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:42:02 No. 658655
>>658652 the japanese economy collapsed in the 30s
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:42:53 No. 658656
>>658655 it collapsed in the 80s
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:44:14 No. 658657
>>658653 The simplest definition is this
Social atomization is the process in which a state will dissolve all forms of gatherings done in groups
Examples of this dissolution include
Banning religion
Banning traditions
Banning holidays
Banning traditional clothing
Banning traditional gender roles in law
Building denser cities
Promoting fordism
Promoting division of labour
Etc
Both ML and modern neoliberal states will socially atomize to make their workforce generally more productive compared if they kept those cultures traditions institutions what not alive
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:48:44 No. 658661
>>658657 you're a bog-standard reactionary
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:49:57 No. 658662
>>658661 How tf is promoting the abolishment of reactionary institutions reactionary? Do you just throw random buzzwords without bothering to check up on what they mean?
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:51:08 No. 658664
>>658662 oh, i thought you were against "atomization"
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:52:31 No. 658666
>>658657 They will replace those institutions with other forms of social relations, numbnuts, not just make us all a bunch of individuals. We’ll still live in a society.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:54:11 No. 658667
>>658666 Someone doesn’t know how Christian’s Jews muslims pagans and what not got treated(rightfully) in the ussr modern day China and every other ML state that gives a shit about progress
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:55:58 No. 658669
>>658667 Read my post again, you illiterate
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:58:16 No. 658672
>>658669 Yeah no, those institutions didn’t get replaced beyond maybe the governments of those states. If they replaced them running said countries would be like trying to manage 2006 era india, literally nothing would get done which is why Lenin and the rest of the bolsheviks kept pushing a “we’re all Russian” identity in the early ussr to avoid discourse
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 05:59:58 No. 658674
>>658672 Yes they did. They were replaced by communist social institutions to build solidarity amongst people in a communist society
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 06:00:44 No. 658675
>>658672 >>658674 The example of “we’re all soviet” is an example of the replacement of old social institutions with new ones, you fucking moron
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 06:01:54 No. 658677
>>658674 I forgot how retarded faggots on this board were since I last arrived when these same rats genuinely tried to explain to me why literal dogshit was worth something to confirm LTV or how the holodomor didn’t happen and why Ukrainians deserved it or when they straight called a state a market that somehow works against class interests without actually defining proles themselves
I’m out, suck a man’s ass fag
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 06:04:07 No. 658678
>>658677 Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out, liberal
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 06:06:45 No. 658680
>>658677 >>658678 the greatest enemy in leftypol are leftypol users themselves
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 06:17:55 No. 658693
>>658655 Japanese economy didn't exist in 1930s. Japan didn't have heavy industry whatsoever, markets and and whatever policies Japan had were all light industry-oriented. War created the need for heavy industry, so only after the war, when the heavy industry was put to work towards civilian needs, Japan's "miracle" happened. Basically, Japan had it's GLF forced onto it via getting forbidden from producing weaponry. Collapse in 1930s happened due to the usual Western imperialism - they just didn't like competition/wanted to slice Japanese pie.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 06:27:43 No. 658703
>>658677 >muh holodomor Not even CONSERVATIVE HISTORIANS BELIEVE IT HAPPENED YOU FUCKING RETARD.
Imagine having the audacity to believe in a made up event that's been debunked countless times by people who are literally paid to be anti-communist and still being so fucking smug that you think you're right.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 06:32:57 No. 658706
>>658693 but this isnt the full picture either, a lot of the heavy industry was damaged.
additionally the post war saw a lot of japanese heavy industry developed too that didnt come from the pre war.
tho whats funny is that japan used war measures from the war and readapted it for civilian use to cause the massive industrial development post war
so heh
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 06:42:14 No. 658716
>>645634 Probably has to do with the half century of reconfiguration fo Japanese society to be a pro-US anti-Communist bulwark in Asia.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 06:47:41 No. 658719
>>645691 the kawaii shit has actually saturated japanese society and it really can be quite insidious. Imagine for a minute american politicians but they sold their policies with moe mascots and idiotic overly cute behaviors. Like if AOC acted like some moronic airheaded idol. You'd want to kill yourself.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 09:15:29 No. 658763
>>658719 How did. Kawaii even get popular in Japan? Their traditional art has minimal sentimentalism.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 10:32:12 No. 658779
>>658763 we've got an oriental art critic in here
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 10:55:52 No. 658789
>>658763 One of the theory is that kawaii is a direct contrast to wartime militarist aesthetic.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 11:37:45 No. 658798
>>658787 but then with this line of reasoning we have to thank the other inspirations too
like the whole export oriented dirigsme model also came from the german empire, but the funny fucking thing is
this model even existed before that and the fucking anglos invented it during the british empire in the 1700s. After all uk had the highest tarriffs, good export promotion and decent amount of gov intervention during their rise. BUt for some reason people dont talk abut this
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 12:23:02 No. 658812
>>658706 >but this isnt the full picture either, a lot of the heavy industry was damaged. Nah, Americans were bombing civilians. Just like in Germany, Allies were destroying first and foremost civilians, because usually industries were protected with AA, at least rudimentary AA. This, and Allies wanted spoils of war, not to get on their hands useless excess population they need to feed.
USSR was more humane - they did the other way around, destroying heavy industry over civilians.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 12:39:02 No. 658822
>>658812 but then how did industrial production in japan get castrated a lot to the point it was a massive problem post war
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 12:53:38 No. 658831
>>658719 >Like if AOC acted like some moronic airheaded idol. You mean she isn’t already? :^). But seriously Cruz being kawaii would be hilarious.
7ko 2021-12-24 (Fri) 13:04:35 No. 658839
It's not the main cause, but quite some time ago the Japanese New Left did execute some major spergout operations that scared many normal people.
>>646310 The intersection of orientalism and consoomerism it quite is.
>>646224 Junko Furuta's story is seriously some tragic stuff. It does break one's heart to recall the depravity she was subjected to, and even more so when one is informed that allegedly the parents of the perpetrators refused to intercede for her sake.
TheNickFuentesRespecter 2021-12-24 (Fri) 17:51:44 No. 659171
goddd yess tell me what to believe, d-list eceleb
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 18:06:28 No. 659195
Because it capitalizes off some cultural trait in the Japanese that drives them to work themselves to death or face social stigma. Unlike other countries for which the touch of neoliberalism assimilated, Japan, perhaps because its homogeneity and ethnocentrism, has preserved some vestige of its traditional culture. This culture is very hierarchical and conformist. It's as if the major corporations in Japan are like feudal clans, with the CEO being daimyo and the businessman samurai retainers and workers ashigaru levies. To not work is seen as shameful, and to work for one of these big name corporations is seen as the epitome of success . Unlike the western capitalist countries, in which one works for oneself, it almost seems that in Japan one works for society, or works for the company, first and foremost. As this is a sign of a diligent and conscientious contributor even though it is really a form of exploitation. In this way, capitalist exploitation of labor is veiled and sublimated by cultural norms and expectations.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 18:07:27 No. 659197
Because it capitalizes off some cultural trait in the Japanese that drives them to work themselves to death or face social stigma. Unlike other countries for which the touch of neoliberalism assimilated, Japan, perhaps because its homogeneity and ethnocentrism, has preserved some vestige of its traditional culture. This culture is very hierarchical and conformist. It's as if the major corporations in Japan are like feudal clans, with the CEO being daimyo and the businessman samurai retainers and workers ashigaru levies. To not work is seen as shameful, and to work for one of these big name corporations is seen as the epitome of success . Unlike the western capitalist countries, in which one works for oneself, it almost seems that in Japan one works for society, or works for the company, first and foremost. As this is a sign of a diligent and conscientious contributor even though it is really a form of exploitation. In this way, capitalist exploitation of labor is veiled and sublimated by cultural norms and expectations.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 18:08:33 No. 659198
>>659197 Oops my bad about the double post
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 18:55:34 No. 659246
>>658822 Restructuring. Again, Japan pre-war had no civilian heavy industry, it was all military projects that arose due to heightened Japanese imperialism in 1930-40s. Before the crisis hit hard in 1920s, Japan had mainly light industries dependent on buying foreign supplies, so, clothes, dyes, cheap manufacturing, stuff like that. After 1920s, when Japan was faced with heightened competition and the need to expand militarily, Japan started creating it's own heavy industries, including supply base in Manchuria and Korea.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 19:18:45 No. 659258
>>658711 I’m not a leftist. I’m a communist. Anyone who calls themself a leftist, instead of a communist, anarchist or anything else is a liberal playing dress-up.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 20:40:35 No. 659320
>>658822 They moved it to Korea and Manchukuo.
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 23:40:01 No. 659426
>>659195 This pattern is even more pronounced in South Korea, which scores low on metrics of individualism, extremely high in uncertainty avoidance (which is a measure of traditionalism and rule-following behavior), and extremely high in long-term orientation (the tendency to prepare for the future rather than live for the moment. It also scores low in indulgence, which is the willingness to engage in discretionary expenditures for hedonistic pleasure.
I think these factors explain the effectiveness of capitalism in Asian countries despite the cultural differences in western countries. And it may reflect a more stable and durable form of capitalism in contrast to the west.
Low levels of individualism essentially mean that large, integrated corporate structures are amenable to the culture. Uncertainty avoidance lends itself toward compliance toward these structures and therefore their firm sociopolitical embedding. Most of all, the very high long term orientation is the logic of the capital accumulation of investment.
So Asian capitalist economies have a more "slow and steady wins the race" toward capital, in which they invest in and build up a steady capital framework through thrift and diligence. This is in stark contrast to a country like the USA which has almost completely inverted cultural profile. It scores very high in individualism, lower in uncertainty avoidance, lower in long-term orientation, and higher in indulgence.
American capitalism is characterized by risky gambling, finantial speculation, and the selfishness and greed of individual investors destabilizing the entire economic system. Hence why the US is almost always the epicenter of market crashes. Asian countries have an entirely different, culturally adapted form of capitalism which is more rational.
Also I am aware of that asian countries aren't completely collectivist ant colonies that consist of drones diligently gathering a pile of crumbs for the hive to survive the winter and that there are many exceptions. But certainly in terms of their business culture they have a more strict hierarchical and collectivized set of norms.
The key point is that the risk aversion and long term orientation of many Asian economies lends itself toward a more stable and steady form of capitalism which insulates it from wild market fluctuations and speculative bubbles.
Of course, I know full well about the 1986-1991 Japanese asset bubble which displayed the symptoms of American style speculation on asset prices. And the troubles in China's real estate market today. This is still capitalism and as such these instabilities are inescapable. The point is that they may be less frequent and less destabilizing (more solvable) in these countries because of how they have culturally integrated capitalism in contrast to the free-wheeling west.
BTW data was taken from this Finnish "cultural analytics firm" and may be bullshit but it certainly comes across as intuitive.
https://www.hofstede-insights.com/country/south-korea/ Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 03:58:04 No. 659669
>>659426 it should be noted that this east asian unique style of capitalism only appeared vvhen these states vvere the most dirigsme.
After financial and economic liberalization tho after the 1980s, these states started taking in a lot of characteristics of vvestern regimes.
like besides the japanese financial bubble in sk there was also the increasing unstability of the sk financial system that in many ways had simmilar problems to the american system
so yeah
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 03:58:44 No. 659671
>like besides the japanese financial bubble in sk there was also the increasing unstability of the sk financial system that in many ways had simmilar problems to the american system goddamn i forgot to put the comma like besides the japanese financial bubble in sk, there was also the increasing unstability of the sk financial system that in many ways had simmilar problems to the american system
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 03:59:34 No. 659672
goddamnit i put the comma in the vvrong place like besides the japanese financial bubble, in sk, there was also the increasing unstability of the sk financial system that in many ways had simmilar problems to the american system
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 04:04:50 No. 659675
>>659669 >>659672 Just curious, why do you type the letter W as vv (two V's)?
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 04:09:39 No. 659679
>>659675 my vv is broken or rather not that responsive
sometimes i can get it to type vv but that takes uh a vvhile
so i decided fuck it im using tvvo vs
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 04:15:56 No. 659684
>>659679 why not just buy a new keyboard, it's not like they're expensive
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 04:17:01 No. 659685
>>659679 Damn… rip to the homie
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 04:23:39 No. 659687
>>659684 because its a laptop and uh well trying to replace this laptops keyboard is uh vvell gonna be hard
and before you say vvhy not usb keyboard tho, m9 im not gonna vvaste one of my usb slots for that
plus trying to use a usb seperate keyboard is not exactly great vvith a laptop
>>659685 my life is pain
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 04:41:37 No. 659695
>>659687 yeah I thought it was a pc
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 05:32:03 No. 659737
>statistics >statistics about public opinion Oh boy.
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 08:25:29 No. 659850
>>659687 Phonepost you cuck
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 18:59:13 No. 660363
>>659679 Why dont you just use the inbuilt assistence onscreen keyboards, or ctrl c/v the letter w, or just bind it to key no one ever uses?
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 19:01:15 No. 660364
>>658719 Show me 5 EXAMPLES of this happening. Why do people make bullshit up on the internet?
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 19:02:24 No. 660365
>>660364 orientalism and reddit
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 19:04:34 No. 660366
>>658719 Show me 5 EXAMPLES of this happening. Why do people make bullshit up on the internet?
Anonymous 2021-12-25 (Sat) 19:05:12 No. 660368
>>659426 East asian capitalists benefitted heavily from China opening up and China's willingness to work for foreigners. Just like Taiwan is 100% dependent on China for everything, so are Japan and South Korea. Those were buffer states ala Yugoslavia, full of retarded problems, but nonetheless benefitting from both worlds' trade.
>And the troubles in China's real estate market todayThere's no troubles in China's real estate market.
Anonymous 2021-12-26 (Sun) 06:11:20 No. 661108
Their corporate elite are nationalists and put their nation's interests first, even before competition. Japanese corporations work together against foreign corporations. That's why people love them.
Anonymous 2021-12-26 (Sun) 06:13:47 No. 661111
>>661108 before people attack you on this i gotta say there is evidence for this during the 1950s and 1970s but thats because the miti put companies in a lease to the point it forced them to be nationalistic
but once economic and political liberalization happened heh well lets just say japanese companies started moving out from japan
Anonymous 2021-12-26 (Sun) 15:11:03 No. 661560
>>645688 Then why do they support capitalism?
Anonymous 2021-12-26 (Sun) 15:36:28 No. 661589
>>661560 Because most people are apathetic about their society and just go with the flow. The boom times are over, and those times were a carryover of an extremely militarized Shows era where they simply redirected the spirit of dying for your emperor in battle to working to death for your company. But now that doesn't bear fruit as even their former Korean and Taiwanese colonies have better electronics and chip manufacturing. So most people just keep their head down and hope they can keep their job, while they slave away slowly while munching on convenience store food.
Anonymous 2021-12-26 (Sun) 15:43:07 No. 661597
>capitalism works because a public opinion poll in a country filled with people too scared to stand out says so Embarrassing thread.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 01:01:27 No. 662263
>>661108 literal idealism.
Anonymous 2021-12-27 (Mon) 02:17:27 No. 662316
>>645654 >the US is just .4 points behind japan in the ranking of suicides. geez, no wonder the eats so much junk food and america first ideological babble, it's to hide the pain.
Anonymous 2022-01-07 (Fri) 13:52:47 No. 679726
>>645634 Very weird for France
Anonymous 2022-01-07 (Fri) 14:04:52 No. 679741
>>645634 >where most people are okay with capitalism What a joke. They have designated suicide streets to cope with capitalism.
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