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 No.653606

>the USSR at its wealthiest point in 1989 had a gdp of 2.6 trillion and a population of 286 million people, 8.6 million of square km of land, allies from all over the planet, WMDs and had gone under decades of heavy industrialization
>the USA in that same year had a GDP of 5.6 trillion a population of 246 million, only literal post colonial states in disarray that were hated by the entire fucking planet for allies, 3.8 million km of land
>despite the obvious superiority of the soviets they somehow failed to overthrow that one shitty countries government not only losing the Cold War but enabling the planet to undergoe some of the most horrific imperial wars and setbacks to all forms of societal progress by NATO for THIRTY FUCKING YEARS with people in Latin America and MENA being hit the hardest

Does god hate humans or something? Why? Why tf did a failure like that have to happen, all that fucking effort, all that research, all those projects, all that progress made all for fucking nothing and the political climate since 1991 has barely evolved. Fuaaaaa

 No.653621

yes this is the power of a degenerated workers' state

 No.653623

>the obvious superiority of the soviets
No

 No.653649

Read Bordiga

 No.653655

>only literal post colonial states in disarray that were hated by the entire fucking planet for allies
How is it possible to be this stupid? Do you know what NATO is?

 No.653656

>>653623
>>653655
>taking a concern troll doomer thread seriously

 No.653691

>>653649
Boridga was wrong in 1952 and is still wrong now.

 No.653699

>>653691
Bordiga didn't collapse tho

 No.653707

>>653699
yeah he collapsed on his armchair after the 1920s

 No.653930


>>653655
A military alliance between Western Europe and North America

 No.680490

>>653930
Great job!

 No.680505

>>653606
The soviets were not aggresive enough and so we all suffer. The bureaucrats got the upper hand over time from the flawed democratic and planning models and sold the USSR before they could eclipse America peacefully…

 No.681694

>devastated by the world war with its population so war weary that a red tide style global revolution is politically impossible
>started off in the position closer to Brazil than anything
>got betrayed by it other big socialist neighbor over national chauvinism
>and the multitude of idiotic decisions
Yeah they’re in a hard place from the start. Which is not to excuse their failures.

 No.681696


 No.682003

>>653656
not every doomer is a glowie. i'm constantly dooming, suicidal and listening to russian post punk playlists because of capitalism and mental illness

 No.682661

>>653606
Yes, the good times of socialism are over and we're living in a capitalist hellworld now.
We need to learn from our mistakes and usher in new good times. It's easy to be depressed when you're living in a dystopia.

 No.682684

>>653606
Revisionism

 No.682880

>>653606
A big part of the problem is that it got bombed to shit in WW2 and it's (was/is) virtually landlocked. Basically the water is cold and surrounded by hostile powers.

 No.683264

>>653606
All of this because the entire Soviet society, including the intelligentsia and bureaucrats, bought into the Kitchen debate and started comparing with the West despite the two systems being different and so also the outcomes and aims.
People started whining about the 10 years waiting time for a car, without considering that Soviet planners prioritized public over private transports (which makes more sense now with the whole climate thing). The USSR ended up with a world-class public transit system and being the first bus manufacturer in the world. Now we live in a society were not everyone can afford food but at least you can choose 40 different types of toothpaste and, as a lot of polls show, most of the people who experienced both systems have realized they were lied.
All the referendums on the conservation of the USSR in 1991 won by a huge margin so you can't even say that the end of socialism was due to the will of the people, but rather the lack of democracy. The ones who actually wanted naively thought that capitalism was some kind of golden thing, and Parenti even told that a lot of them thought that "the state would find a job" if they were to be unemployed under capitalism, despite it being a thing of socialism which was the only system they knew at the time. So traitors in the CPSU were allowed to seize the once public economy without the people doing anything because the cancer spread into the news and media apparatus.

All in all, the original sin was not creating a meritocratic political system that rewarded smart people, plus the inadeguacy of the democratic institutions, where there were any, which allowed the undemocratic dissolution of the USSR by vermin not loyal to the people and thus socialism. After the death of Stalin the Soviets stopped playing the long game and patiently do their own thing because most of the CPSU members were terminally retarded.


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