/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>658616
> with somewhat moderate foreign policy views
They literally justify going to war with China and attacking Chinese people. That’s your brain on Feddit

>>658618
In America being like 'fuck China, boycott them etc' is a moderate view, the Conservative take is that we should just nuke China.

>>657478
https://mobile.twitter.com/DanielDumbrill/status/1305440435402240001
If she wants to be a glowie, she better learn how to cover her tracks. Although, I believe they are required to show they are supported by the NED through their “think” tanks or their “Non-Government” Organizations.

>>658619
> Conservative take is that we should just nuke China.
That’s like half of Reddit despite being sucdems

>>658622
Ok fine, the anti China shit on Reddit is pretty dumb, but they're still not as bad as Facebook boomers.

>>658619
Does it really qualify as "moderate", if the next step down is produced by mental illness incapable of objective evaluation or understanding the concept of "Second Strike Capability"?

https://youtu.be/7RUrBmXUGuU?t=722

>>658625
Being 'moderate' is a spectrum, so yes, if one side is utterly deranged, being mildly deranged is moderate.

>>658626
Move over "sluggish schizophrenia", we have a real candidate for DSM-5.

>>658626
This guy >>658439 mentioned
>They are most useful idiots on the internet, even Facebook boomers have more critical thinking capability than redditors.
He’s saying that Redditoids are NPCs who lack critical thinking. They’re arguably just slightly less aggressive than the Facebook boomers.

It might be glowies, it might be government ML bots, but occam's razor is it's mostly PMC libs who do it for free. (No wages lmao!)

It's so tedious posting nearly anywhere on the internet these days because somebody (somebody's bot etc) will accuse you of being a shill for some reason.
I lived in China for nearly a decade and had a great time. However this very minor anecdote is enough to trigger burger-brain idiots, who facing a deviation from their precious propaganda can only explain the contradiction by me being a shill. 50-cent party, wumao, winne da…poooo. Of course.

Whether it's 80/20 or 20/80 glowy redditards, either way the internet is totally fucked, and there's probably no way to fix it.

>complains about smugness
>on an imageboard of all places
What did OP mean by this?

>>658686
The fake internet points make it qualitatively different, and you know it.

>>658250
We have a extremely loud imbeciles that leave a trail of shit wherever they go; and funnily enough they always ALWAYS tend to be (our) Democratic Party supporters, or one of the so-called anti-government bunch. One the other hand, the ones that has rudimentary functional brains at least (or corrupt as fuck) tend to be Mongolian People's Party (former ML ruling party) supporters. Ignorant in their own way, but far more salvageable, and 1000 times better than your average burger; I'd go as far as to say that they will be either indifferent or supportive of potential Communist Revolution if it comes. Most Mongols are the latter part, so make of that what you will

Personally, I'm an MPP member; fucking hate the upper echelons but less than the DP loons. Trying to secretly push the party to the left and/or create an ML faction within it

Just to give you an example of how a typical glowie post would look like, with all the gaslighting and nudging, it's never openly McCarthyite, since the 60s, alphabeth soups have concentrated on co-opting progressive talking points for the "defection" of middle class leftists. Check out things like the Iowa Writers Workshop, or the Congress for Cultural Freedom. They were allowed to remain a superficial stance critical of the US but ended up solidifying imperialist narratives as common sense.

This is what a typical glowie post looks like:
>I've never understood the need for leftists to defend a capitalist hellhole like China just because they have red flags. You can acknowledge the genocide carried out against the Uyghur people while remaining critical of Western media but so far there has been underreporting about the issue because of the strong economic ties the US has to all kinds of dictatorships.
I'm sure you have seen something like that behind posted a lot, even on here. Let's break it down:
>I've never understood the need for leftists
Choosing "leftists" over tankers to lump as many people on the spectrum to serve the right-wing narrative that there is something wrong with "the left" and that the glowie poster knows how to make it reasonable again to have a chance against "the right" -> very popular amongst Breadtube, country reddits like r/Canada, r/France, r/de of which many are moderated by Americans, and also "ex alt-right" guys.
>defend a capitalist hellhole
Insinuating that the poster has deeply anti-capitalist agenda, building up the necessary equidistance between "Washington and Moscow/Bejing" that can be domesticated into implicit support for empire. Very popular among left-liberal interventionism of the likes of Dylan Burns - basically, the US invades a country, but to be against it, would be "defending the regime" of the country under attack due to this "it's all capitalist anyway" narrative that stems from Kautsykist ultra-imperialism and is popular with Jacobin/Novara Media/Haymarket Books types.

Hellhole is the implicit racism, liberal-washed version of the Asian bugman, only because it's blamed on capitalism and not on culture and race like the right does.
>because they have red flags
Projected infantile delusion on your ideological enemy.
>you acknowledge the [XYZ] genocide/atrocity
Already implying a highly contested subject that even in mainstream academic discourse is very much debated critically is already well-established and denying it would be the equiviliancy of a Holocaust denier.
>while remaining critical of Western media
Lip service to media critique while actually going to the right of them. Very popular with Chomsky fans and redditors.
>there has been about the issue because of the strong economic ties the US has to all kinds of dictatorships.
Think about it - what is the actual agenda here? The goal is to you want you to drop any Leninist analysis of imperialism and instead believe in conspiracy theories about a "global bourgeoisie" that basically acts like a NWO so any critique becomes completely toothless because everything is made equivalent. That the West and its enemies are actually on the same side by the end of the day, conspiring against a fictional "real movement" (that consists on Netflix walkouts against Dave Chappelle). This has been very popular with post-modern thinkers and Cliffite Trotskyists.

It's all about controlling the narrative and psychological manipulation so that even the ones the most radically opposed to capitalism have to at least surrender a few talking points to be able to even participate in the so-called discourse.

>>657416
>I won't go into why cynicism is a dominant form of ideology in the West, this has been discussed plenty of times already
You should, it's something that feels true but I want that feeling validated by a long article of many polysyllabic words.

>>658261
there is huge amounts of evidence. No.1 being that they consistently wreck everything No.2 They stanned infraglow massively

>>658767
What’s interesting is that the Democratic Party may have been funded by the NED (smiley face CIA).
https://mobile.twitter.com/danieldumbrill/status/1305715647234502657
Your comment though on this is honestly pretty interesting. Do you think Russia and the PRC will influence you guys enough to go back to socialism?

>>658793
This is a good psychological analysis on these fuckers. One thing to notice too is that they will never question Oligarch/capitalist media. If you suggest alternative media such as the Grayzone, they flip their shit and attack it while defending “real” media despite somehow being “anti-capitalist”.
Here is one example of NED-funded media attacking Grayzone.
https://www.codastory.com/disinformation/grayzone-xinjiang-denialism/
And here is proof of their funding from the NED:
https://web.archive.org/web/20201125165047/https://www.ned.org/region/eurasia/eurasia-regional-2019/

>>658838
It would honestly be an interesting discussion

>>657391
>precisely because it's a glow hive
Yeah, nah. Reddit smugness has always been a thing and it was part of a greater internet trend of LARPing internet intellectuals. It's just that the 'intellectual' tech-citizen shit died off pretty quickly in favour of widespread astroturfing and legitimate retards making Marvel quips.

>>659876
Mind you, it's obvious Reddit is used to influence public opinion, like all large websites. I just don't believe the smug yet clearly retarded intellectual dishonesty of it is part of it.

>>659877
>I just don't believe the smug yet clearly retarded intellectual dishonesty of it is part of it.
Smugness and intellectual dishonesty are pretty much the standard of online discussion. When did you start using the Internet?

>>659885
Reread the post. I'm stating exactly that, that smug retardation has always been a thing and isn't indicative of spooks.

>>658767
>It's all about controlling the narrative and psychological manipulation so that even the ones the most radically opposed to capitalism have to at least surrender a few talking points to be able to even participate in the so-called discourse.
Don't give an inch
Storeshittistahn's Empire died in the graveyard of empires
The rest is popcorn, there is no big other they don't control the discourse

>>659900
The smug retardation that redditoids spew is pretty fucking unique and it’s exactly the same smug the known glowies spew.

>>657435
a lot more people do it when you get funding from US for doing it…

>>658793
good analysis

>>658686
>>complains about smugness
>>on an imageboard of all places
The smugness that is unique to Redditoids specifically is identical to that of glowies on other internet platforms. I was wondering the reasoning behind this.

>>659255
They don't even hide it tbh; they fucked over our system back in 1996 when said org soft-coup'd the election by flooding it with burger money. Before the said election, we were basically a socialist nation with liberal democracy. We even went so far as to sign the Pyongyang Declaration alongside Cuba, Laos, Vietnam and NK saying that we will remain on the path to Socialism in 1992, 2 years after the supposed Democratic Revolution

>>666420
That fucking sucks. I presume old people in Mongolia still prefer the communist era as do other old people in former socialist states.

>>658767
Based. You are a Chad Mongol who would practically run Finland the moment you stepped onto its territory.

>>657383
Why are imperialist shills so fuckable?
Can I run a re-education camp after the revolution and put this cutie in it?

>>669294
Holy shit I realized this

>>658793
You know what's also interesting about these people. They all shut up around 5:00 pm Eastern Standard Time. They rarely continue to talk after that time period.

My account was banned

>>657374
It actually is insane that that woman worked at fucking GITMO and people were still like “maybe she’s telling facts”. Or maybe she is uniroinically an honest to god CIA asset and lying lol?

>>687498
Human ignorance knows no bounds. So as long as it’s on MSM people will be sucked into believing it. If you question MSM in any way, you’re a conspiracy theorist.

>>687542
And the other spectrum you got people who uncritically read RT during a Russian conflict.

Essentially reading VOA during Vietnam war for objective take.

>>657374
Being smug is a byproduct of being right

>>657383
It is like two people are in control of that account

>>658419
Based and orgone pilled

>>687628
Being smug is a byproduct of agreeing with the hegemonic ideology, and (usually) seeing yourself as slightly ahead of the curve.

"Have you considered the radical possibility that two things can both be bad"
- A common "leftist" Redditfag/Facebook phrase
This guy coordinates with the Jamestown Foundation
He also has a fetish for Pokemon:
https://twitter.com/JoshC0301/status/1481102691958992898

It's how they train pro trolls at CIA. They know it's infuriating and reinforces the dominance of the institutions over the people. They know if it is produced in large volumes, it's more shitty snark than people can shout down. If it overwhelms the native defenses of the targeted mass, the shit accrues and starts infecting the soul.

>>659293
You do know Grayzone is an op? Most of the "alternative news" sites are. They run the same few boilerplate articles, copypasta each other, and flood the internet with a fake opposition. It obscures people from looking further, and then Grayzone et al do a fed act where they rail against actual criticisms of the regime. Do that enough, and public resistance is displaced with "the movement", a fake construction that can be directed as the oligarchs please, within certain constraints. This was on full display in the June 2020 Riots, where the anarchists would play out this pathetic ritual of being caged like animals. It was pathetic to watch them walk into the same traps every day. Dumbest shit.

>>691990
I'm interested in learnig more. I thought the 3rd pic was being critical, then I saw the other pics. This guy is an elightened fed. He has reached nirvana and glows so much, that the peace he irradiates makes near by geiger counters max out their reading. An avatar of Shiva himself.

>>691998
There is more here:
https://twitter.com/McReynoldsJoe/status/1481044297533165568

>>691997
>the media that glowies whine about the most is actually a glow-op
What glowie talking point have they made?

>>692004
I don't really use twitter or read liberal papers that much. I'm absolutely shocked at how shameless their operation is. How are these people real, holy shit.

And twitter """anarchists""" (no offense to leftist anarchists) obviously getting on the anti-China smear. It's appalling to see them talk about sanctions to Xinjiang uyghurs which mostly hurts specifically uyghurs and nobody else, as a "labor rights win" meanwhile the US has literal slaves in their prisons and genocidal conditions in their plantations.

No words.