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 No.659698

Do you trust them? They are growing exponentially in the last few years and are becoming more popular and mainstream on the far right and far left.

What is your analysis of their coverage and articles?

 No.659701

There just reactionary at most but they’re not fox cnn or bbc so that automatically makes them above average

 No.659702

More accurate than the lying storeshittistahn media

 No.659703

>>659698
enemy of enemy and all that
not real allies, just allies of convenience

 No.659706

I've been using RT for years, they're alright. RT is the kind of website that puts on the front page a schizo conservative article and one by a marxist on the same day. They're just unpredictable.

 No.659707

>>659706
Whatever undermines the West is basically their philosophy. They'll use Chomsky, Assange, Zizek, Maupin or whomever from the left, and boomer-tier reactionaries from the right.

 No.659708


 No.659711


 No.659714

State backed media should always be taken with a grain of salt for obvious reasons.

 No.659715


 No.659717

RT is known for giving Nazis like Caleb Maupin a platform so I can’t trust them, similar with Press TV and their platforming of the pedophile Jason Unruhe. These are both state medias for right-wing reactionary authoritarian countries that just hate America out of convenience and don’t care who’s spewing shit from their particular tube.

 No.659721

>>659717
could you out yourself as a burger less obviously?

 No.659723

>>659721
Okay and?

 No.659724


 No.659726

>>659706
Literally this, it is leagues better than the imperial BBC or the burger media.
>>659717
Kek, this level of bait

 No.659728

>>659724
Give it a few years and they’ll start giving a platform to beefsteak Nazis like Richard Spencer and Keith Woods simply because they hate America but happen to have fascist liberal worldviews. This board will blindly defend Russian and Iranian media without realizing they both harass and jail communists.

 No.659731

>>659728
Richard spencer has already been brought on RT as an American analyst several times
.https://youtu.be/dTKw7CD9v6Q

https://youtu.be/kq2HaGRHW8o

 No.659734

>>659731
https://youtu.be/7Mvcts_dfxI
Another time richard Spencer was on rt

 No.659745

Presstv also regularly brought on Angelo John gage for American analysis he's a complete white nationalist. Zero exaggeration not the boomer Trump stuff and hates Jews a lot

https://www.businessinsider.com/youtube-deletes-neo-nazi-account-that-promoted-hate-toward-jews-2021-2

https://youtube.com/channel/UCaWteMlfi6hOQm2A36vZ0Dw his YouTube after bans elsewhere now

https://youtu.be/plEtZanFPfE he calls himself a "3rd positionist"

Him on presstv
https://twitter.com/JachnunEmpire/status/1334747253987299329?s=20

https://gab.com/AngeloJohnGage/posts/105990414001399650

>Last night I was a guest on Press TV discussing #BigTech censorship. https://www.urmedium.com/c/presstv/69586


.https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/09/02/angelo-john-gage-infamous-white-nationalist-human-potential-movement-%E2%80%93%E2%80%93-and-what-it-can-do

 No.659756

>>659698
>Do you trust them? They are growing exponentially in the last few years and are becoming more popular and mainstream on the far right and far left.
Dont trust any big media. They inherently have agenda. Literally the whole reason why anyone funds this is to modify your opinion to how they want it to be. Russian strategy is to support any movement or idea that causes chaos and disolution into smaller pieces of the west, hence funding people like Le Pen etc. Which may be in interest of western left but realize this aliance is temporary and ultimately aimed against you.

Also they had a serious politics interview with jreg. I cant take them seriously after that.

 No.659765

>>659734
Why on earth would they platform a Bidenite

 No.659770


 No.659788

File: 1640413545490.jpeg (29.31 KB, 739x415, images (25).jpeg)

I get all my news from imageboards

 No.659805

I like reading some Zizek essays and the Russian viewpoint on geopolitics is always worthwhile. It is useless for anything else as RT will platform anti-China hypercapitalist unironic white supremacists like >>659711 while Putin is decrying Western supression of China. Their lack of consistentcy is reflective of the Russian Federations absolute lack of strategic strength, instead relying on tactical, short term gains.

 No.659809


 No.659819

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>>659698
Better than most western forms of media, but can be also be reactionary dickheads. You have opinions and articles ranging from Zizek to Dugin.

Take what they say with a grain of salt- they're anti-US and that's MOSTLY what they've got going for them.

 No.659824

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>>659819
why do you use this fate gacha reaction image so much?
watch fate/zero smh

 No.659829

File: 1640416795469.png (405.05 KB, 562x600, 1636680973611.png)

>>659824
Mate, it's a good reaction image and I'll use it to me hearts content.
<watch the show
Rather not.

 No.659831

>>659829
I only recommend fate/zero because it's the best one series with the best director, the other series can suck my nuts
but ok you do you

 No.659832

It's an alternative media source. In any case I don't trust any media at all. To me media is just a way to have an gather information, mostly from multiple sources, then compare it together to figure out gaps in information that another source won't have or will omit.

Basically, having multiple sources is a good way to put the pieces together.

 No.659848

>>659832
Patrician taste

 No.659914

>>659698
No, I don't trust the Kremlin's mouthpiece.

 No.659930

Meh

 No.659937

>>659805
>Their lack of consistentcy is reflective of the Russian Federations absolute lack of strategic strength
Russian propaganda strategy has been just turning people's brain into soup with overload of contradictory information since fucking perestroika. Having a consistent line would be against that.

 No.659965

>>659706
>>659707
They give leftists voices, that are usually excluded from neoliberal media, a platform. That's a good thing. They also give a voice to people that we disagree with, but that's still better than being silenced completely.

>>659698
>on the far right and far left.
i guess we should also say the far center, because the centrists have been trying to normalize rather extremist views in the last half decade.

 No.659967

>>659698
>Do you trust them?
no, I don't trust bourgeois media

 No.659968

they're no better than regular US journalism, they just hire the failures and mediocrities

 No.659971

>>659698
They're barely any better than western media, so no, I don't trust them at all

 No.659972

As trustworthy as CNN or Fox - I.e. not very, but diversity of opinions from a variety of shitty sources is better than one shitty source.

 No.659975

>>659968
>they just hire the failures and mediocrities
They hired People like Chris Hedges, so that's definitely false.

 No.659977

>>659711
>>659715
>>659809
what the fuck are you talking about schizo? take your fucking meds

 No.659979

>>659698
Are you genuinely asking me if I trust literal state news? What fucking moron would?

 No.659995

>do you trust [literally any news org]
not much. there's things you can rely on them for but I would never think they don't have an intentional bias. especially state news.

 No.660005

>>659995
>>659979
>especially state news.
As opposed to?

 No.660007

>>660005
Commercial news should be treated somewhat similarly. Most national news in the west falls under this category.
Non-for-profit community run news projects and organization newsletters may have less conflict of interest that incentivizes dishonest reporting, but it very much depends on their individual situation..

 No.660013

>>659698
>What is your analysis of their coverage and articles?
Most of their content lacks journalistic substance. Their articles suffer from poor quality control, poor sources, and blatant editorial bias.

International news is reliably covered by news agencies: AP, Xinhua, and Reuters, to name a few. For analysis, investigations and long-form content, follow newspapers and news magazines (WaPo, NYT, WSJ, The Economist, The Diplomat, The Nation). You should learn how to quickly sift through garbage news.

 No.660027

>>660005
Literally anything else would be more trustworthy, state news is literally the least trustworthy news sources out there. The range is usually that international orgs are the most trustworthy and state orgs are the least, it's literally news pumped out by the government anyone who trusts a source like that is more retarded than a lobotomy patient.

 No.660029

>>660013
WaPo, NYT, WSJ, The Economist, The Diplomat, The Nation don't have editorial bias ?
Seriously ?

RT sometimes publishes very good leftists, if you can be selective and pick them out specifically it's not a bad news source.

 No.660036

>>659698
RT is comically bad with its propaganda.

 No.660071

>>659711
DICK
SUCKING
LIPS

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 No.660080

>>660029
>RT sometimes publishes very good leftists

RT "leftists" are like breadtube "leftists" but in reverse. Maupin is correct when he says, that breadtube "leftists" are a psyop of western governments. But "leftists" promoted by RT are a psyop of the russian government. In our times, its just 🇺🇸-glowie vs 🇷🇺-glowie, claded in "leftist" veneer.

 No.660088

>>660080
careful there anon or you'll make these "anti-imperialist" anons' heads explode

 No.660096

>>660088
You sound smug

 No.660108

>>660096
where do you think you are?

 No.660118

>>660080
So first leftist voices are excluded in mainstream media, and then they have no other choice but to go to media platforms like RT, and that's supposed to prove anything ?
>>660088
Why would that make my head explode, leftists painted as Russian agents is a really old trick that dates back to McCarthyism red-scare tactics.

There are a few leftist voices on RT that i find very respectable, so RT gets credit for hiring these people. I don't have any delusions about RT's motives, they hire people that criticize western powers, but that's ok , you have to go to other sources to find criticism about Russia. That would actually be the job of western news platforms but since they banished all the leftists they don't have any i could listen too, liberals have become unbearable war-hawks.

 No.660125

>>659717
>Maupin
>Nazi
Go back to Twitter

 No.660172

>>660036
Keep on denying reality, anglo.

 No.660178

>>659756
>Also they had a serious politics interview with jreg
Was it the one where jreg went on the air in character?

 No.660198

They publish a lot of anti-american agitprop. So we're cool

 No.660217

>>659698
Not bad

 No.660295

>>659698
Hell no I don't trust them. I like Afshin Rattansi's show though which is one of their programs aimed at a leftist audience. I've noticed they've been doing more and more of this kind of stuff – guess it's a growing audience which is good news for us.

 No.660320

Reactionary

 No.660651

>>659698
theyre based
FUCK AMERICA AND FUCK YOU FAGGOTS

 No.660816

>>660651
t. american selfhatred

 No.660830

>>660295
>I like Afshin Rattansi's show though
His show's great I watch it all the time, I love the blurbs of all the scum he tries to get to respond to allegations/comments made on the show lol.

 No.660835

>>660816
Nope
Fuck off mutt

 No.660891

>>659717
> Nazis like Caleb Maupin
Back to Twitter

 No.662047

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>>660125
>>660891
ywnba deep south blue collar worker maupin

 No.662865

>>660080
you're retarded, it's just in their interest to have a foreign media with non western narrative, view, and give other countries dissidents with no msm presence a voice. Ofc they dont do it out of the kindness of their heart, but our interest on the subject align.
I have little "trust" in rt, but not any less than msm medias, and actually more on all geopolitical issues because, as the small counterpower, they're usually more honest, and they invite tons of very interesting people that dont appear anywhere else

 No.662871

Yes communism is when you trust fossil fuel conglomerates news agencies mildly hostile to the us

 No.662954

chaotic neutral media

 No.662968

>>660320
yes, that is what you are

 No.663013

I like them for offering a different perspective on current events, but don't go around calling them /ourguy/ or something.

 No.663028

It's literally the Russian government's state-owned media/propaganda organ. So take it with a big grain of соль. That said, a state-run media organ can still get the truth out on its enemies. It gives various leftists who are blacklisted by many western outlets such as Zizek and Chris Hedges, a platform which is good. So long as they don't bite the hand that feeds them of course.

 No.685006

Relevant now

 No.685009

literally who?

 No.685017

>>660080
Accurate

 No.685073

>>659717
there should be a containment board for this sort of behaviour

 No.685076

>>659698
Well for me I don't. Because I'd prefer more reliable media sources.

 No.685078

>>659819
>zizek to dugin
ahh, yes. the whole entire political spectrum

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 No.685294

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 No.685335

>>685294
If only that were true

 No.685344

>>659698
>Mainstream media
No.

 No.685389

>>659819
>>685078
>Zizek to Dugin

Closet fascist to open fascist, then.

 No.685743

>>659698
They're right wing reactionaries who occasionally larp as leftists, they usually tell the truth about America and definitely moreso than shart MSM. Other than that I don't trust them reporting on anything in the Russian sphere.

 No.685827

No.

 No.685857

>>685294
AMEN IF TRUE

GIGA BASED

 No.685916

>>659698
>Do you trust them?
Don't "trust" any media period. All media belonging to absolutely any force is at the end of the day pushing some kind of agenda, marketing, whatever. All news is propaganda. This is also true of socialist states, taking old Peking review or Pravda public narratives at face value will lead to radical confusion in the long run & the kind of mess we're stuck in now.

The public face of course needs to be different to the private face. Inner vs out track narratives, etc. Too many people don't understand the difference between high vs low politics, surface vs deep narratives etc.

I'd sooner put stock in a narrative from RT or Press TV than the BBC/CNN or whatever though, sure, but that has nothing to do with them "being more honest" or lying less & everything to do with aligning of short/medium term geopolitical interests.


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