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 No.665057

I don’t interact with people
>inb4 Wah wah tfw no gf complaints
This isn’t about that, I’m genuinely questioning if the average wage worker seriously spends as much time thinking about their identity in the society they inhabit as your standard idk pol or int user considering I don’t know that much about people on a general basis as most of my life’s been spent at work or in schooling

 No.665062

It depends which demographic, zoomers are mostly just scroollers that like TikTok, YouTube and other internet garbage and don't care about anything.
Millennials are more political and the older people don't care about politics cause they're rich.

 No.665066

/pol/ isn't representative of the average wage worker, neither are twitter, breadtube, twitch, or this place. most are apathetic to culture war shit and default to prevailing attitudes and are much more concerned with lowering standards of living and worsening work conditions

 No.665070

>I don’t interact with people
I work from home at the moment so I'm barely even seeing my co-workers.
That said, most of my IRL friends (and I have well over a dozen) are 20km or more from my house. The ones who were local moved away and I'll soon be doing the same. This place is a bit of a conservaturd aging-population nothingburger hole. Not unsalvagable, but I counted votes and it's cut-and-fucking-dry, a 'secure seat' for the conservative liberals.

>f the average wage worker seriously spends as much time thinking about their identity in the society they inhabit as your standard idk pol or int user

My experience is that most people are grillers, in all demographics. Not inherently dumb or naive, just seeing more important things to them to care about.
/pol/ and /int/ are overwhelmingly people repressed or rejected by society who expressedly have an interest in nations or race. That's why they're there and not elsewhere. Not a good sample for society.

 No.665073

>>665062
Yep. Scrooolers will probably empathize with half the stuff in /r/latestagecapitalism but not form an identity around it or consider themselves socialist/liberal/etc. because of it.

 No.665075

>>665057
This is the mindset of the average person, combined with some scattering of religion, and social issue politics (pro-life or pro-choice, pro-gay anti-gay, etc). They certainly don't think much about society, they may have a vague notion that 'it's one law for us and one law for them' but probably thinks half of the elite are based for pandering to them on social issues, or they just don't think anything could ever be done about it.

 No.665082

This is largely a perception shaped by mass media and/or anecdotes. At the end of the day it isn't particularly easy to get a read on "what most people think/are like", but I'd guess if the majority were really raving reactionaries as is often claimed society would look pretty different.

 No.665112

>>665057
they dont read theory, they might vaguely identitify with rightism or leftism, and either be religious on non-religious.

 No.665139

Wagenormie has no coherent ideology. They think predominantly about work, and their relationship to their boss.
>Boss is really pushing our team hard this month, but he's pretty cool on casual-dress-and-drink-a-beer-Friday.
Followed by immediate or expected consumption of goods and services.
>Like my new (rented) car? I can't wait to go on holiday to insert-trending-destination-here.

Flashes of class consciousness
>Not sure if I even want those commodities I just said I wanted. My workplace is actually a brutal environment that's wearing me down physically and mentally.
Intermixed with casual racism
>I'm not racist or anything, but we actually moved away from [medium sized city] because there was increasing numbers of brown people.
And reactionary talking points they read in the media.
>Have you noticed how migrants always have really nice phones?
Individualist liberal ideology
>I had a mental breakdown at work, but it's my problem. My therapist recommends valium, and I'm learning meditation too.
Generally supportive of progressive causes, especially if they don't have to do anything, and it comes with a badge of social approval.
>I donated to charity. Save the children/rainforest/monkeys/manatees or whatever.

Scroolling is just the new TV. It's passive consumption which I don't think has much effect beyond supplying the slogans and buzzwords for wagenormie to repeat.
This person was real, though also representative of all the average brain-farts I've ever had to listen to.

 No.665140

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>>665057
I think people tend to produce the responses that their environment programs them for. Whether this is a conviction… I don't think so, but to the purveyors of spectacle it's all the same as long as we keep passively consenting. If most of everyone goes through the motions, not doing so becomes the effortful. The most evident reality becomes a thing you need to peer at with conscious effort through all the boilerplate and habits. And little by little we are all made into assburgers hooked to the reassuring unsubtlety of the spectacle.

We may all be enlightened beings, putting an act, surrounded by sheeple, in our heads as the webcomic goes.

 No.665144

>>665139
White people can’t be that predictable
They have to be more diverse in personality there’s millions of them

 No.665165

>>665062
Especially for zoomers they are highly susceptible to woke propaganda and "celebrating diversity" bullshit. Therefore will distract them from true class politics. Examples include coming up with new genders, pronouns, etc.

 No.665166

>>665057
>Are proles really that reactionary and obsessed with identity
It depends on the person, but most of them end like such due to constant social media and news exposure.

 No.665169

>>665062
Old people care even more than the average leftypolack. Who do you think is watching CNN or Tucker Carlson for hours on end everyday and attending actual political rallies and has the highest election voting rate?

 No.665179

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 No.665216

No, at best they care passively bit not enough to really impact their politics. The only people who schizophrenically obsses over identity groups are middle class shitheads, both from cultural left and right. These are the people who consume the most media, who most want to be political subjects, and eventually just decend a rabbit hole of insanity.

 No.665222


 No.665300

>>665057
No. Most proles are fucking normies who’re (disinterestedly) social progressives and at the very least moderates. If they have less than charitable attitudes to marginalized groups, they aren’t ones that are held strongly.

 No.665302

>>665144
There’s way more brown people in the world.

 No.665362

>>665352
The most oppressed minority are actually gamers

 No.668209

>>665057
Try getting out in the world, and drop the solipsism.

The legions of petit bourgeois cretins love to imagine they're special beings as these images show.

>>665140
>>665179

 No.668249

>>665057
The average prole dedicates at least some of their time to thinking about their identity, when: 1. they belong to at least one historically persecuted minority identity, and 2. they're not actually bourg: so economically privileged that all they care about is losing their economic privilege

To the average poster here, any concern with one's identity is 'obsession', because they've never had any real need to think about their own identity

 No.668321

IMAGINE HAVING NO GIRL FRIEND
AHAHAHH WHAT A FUCKING LOSER AHAHAHAHH

 No.680486

Yeah

 No.680508

no of course not

 No.681490

>>668249
>To the average poster here, any concern with one's identity is 'obsession', because they've never had any real need to think about their own identity
If anything I'm the opposite. I'm not even sure what an "identity" even is. I have a personality in that I react to stumli in a different way than another would, I'm an individual in that I occupy a unique point in space and time, but I don't have an "identity" in the way most people talk about it. I don't feel "white" or "gay" or "masculine" or whatever. I just kind of do things and normies apply labels to me, and I don't care enough to contradict them. I don't care about peer validation of abstract man-made concepts like most others seem to. My whole life I've heard kids at school and adults at work claim they don't care what others think, but they seem really concerned and devote large portions of their life to following cultural norms and being seen as genuine to others. They're always trying "find themselves" or express the "real" them, but it always come back to craving approval from random people online and real life. Being normal must be exhausting.

 No.681527

>>665062
Since we are doing scientific (tm) generation analysis…

In the west:
>lost generation
emotional, psychological, bodily cripples who burned down the world, single parents, orphan-makers
>greatest generation
optimistic reformists
>silent generation
cynical pseudo-politics (new left, hippies, anti-war, but anti-communist)
>boomers
reactionaries
>genx
nihilistic subculture fags
>millennials
postmodern pseudo-politics (idpol, etc.)
>genz
(so far) nihilistic doomers AND/OR headless chickens rushing to save the world without any knowledge about anything
>generation alpha
still sucking mommy's tits

Meanwhile, in China:
>lost generation
resentful slaves
>greatest generation
revolutionaries
>silent generation
optimistic socialists
>boomers
consolidators
>genx
aimless bystanders
>millennials
diligent optimists
>genz
resurgent communists
>generation alpha
still sucking mommy's tits

 No.681592

>>668249
>The average prole dedicates at least some of their time to thinking about their identity
Average Joe arguments suck, because very few people exactly fit the average. You are hiding the huge amount of proles who never think about identity.
>>668249
>any concern with one's identity is 'obsession', because they've never had any real need to think about their own identity
The implication is that identity is oppression, something you are being bullied into thinking about.
Can you see how you might be making it worse by making people think more about it
>>681490
<this guy found liberation
tech me your ways

 No.681596

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>>681490
> My whole life I've heard kids at school and adults at work claim they don't care what others think, but they seem really concerned and devote large portions of their life to following cultural norms and being seen as genuine to others

Well the important thing is that you have found a way to feel superior.

 No.681787

Someone has probably said this but I don't see it as a problem of proles being supposedly reactionary but some leftists wanting to build a movement without social conservatives, aka if you have managed to form a picket line you tell the conservative half it's not welcome and needs to go.

Some people seem to act like having people who just thinks transwomen aren't women is an act of violence against them but I think those people only exist online

 No.687546

>>668249
One's identity in our lenses is just your existence and you being a human, a living, sapient being. Not sexuality, gender, race, religious affiliation, etc etc.

 No.687549

>>665300
Do you know the term virtue signaler anon? Especially those who spend their time on Twitter 24/7.


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