/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

An incoherent mess of ideas for Jreg-type snowflakes who don't want to 'fit' into leftism
>inb4 Nick Land
no one but a tiny sect of depressed internet users care for Land

>Using Wikipedia for non hard sciences
FIND A BETTER SOURCE WIGGER
Preferably a primary source
Even Jreg would be a better source than Wikipedia for this topic

>>670203
I just posted that to reach the word limit to ask the question

>>670191
Irrelevant and slanderous.

>>670214
What you mean? Fascism is late stage capitalism and therefore what accelerationists work towards so they can bring about its destruction through the shattering of ideology.

>>670180

accelerationism is useless if there is no party to lead and take over in bourgeoise democracy's demise. America, if it were to collapse today, would result in some far right reactionary government coming into power.

What you describe is simply a repackaging of the 'Impossibilism' that many marxists have held for ages. Not the Philosophical idea of accelerationism. That Wiki-Page is a monstrosity it blends Marx, Engels, DaG Land and Fishers words into grey sludge not really capturing the essence of what any of them said.

>What is Accelerationism.
<"Deterritorialization is the only thing accelerationism has ever really talked about."
<"In socio-historical terms, the line of deterritorialization corresponds to uncompensated capitalism. The basic – and, of course, to some real highly consequential degree actually installed – schema is a positive feedback circuit, within which commercialization and industrialization mutually excite each other in a runaway process, from which modernity draws its gradient."
- Land.

At it's most basic level /acc is the transplantation of the ideas of 'territorialisation' and 'DeTerritorialisation' introduced by DaG in their works back towards a more traditionally Marxist worldview with 'deterrirorialisation' being explored as an inevitable result of the 'commercialization and industrialization mutually excite[ing] each other in a runaway process' [And as Land add's to the Mix technological advancement and 'digitisation of life']
The 'Runaway process' wording represents lands belief that the 'free flows of desire' and subsequent Deterritorialization unleashed by capitalism in the 20th century onwards has made any sort of REterritorialisation impossible and has put the world towards an 'uncompensated capitalism' in it's purest possible form [Assuming that before then socialism does not arise as the dominant mode of production over the majority of the surface of the earth].

>Why does land talk so much shit? / Talk in vast Schizopilled Cyberpunk LARPing monologues?.
Understanding /acc as simply a Deleuzean theory making a return to materialism makes Land's grandiose expositions about the future, city-states and 'HIV positive prostitutes that looks like anime people with Adams glasses from Deus-Ex glued to their face' make much more sense

The march of 'uncompensated capitalism' trashes all existing material, social and biological structures, The nation state [i.e patchwork], Race [Despite what some people claim Nick to this day isn't a racist from what i know], Sex [Xenofeminism and trashing of the sexual binary], Sense of cultural or national comradery and the idea of a unified Human race in itself ['Nothing human makes it out of the near future, Anime people etc] until the earth is nothing but a vast patchwork of company towns pumping the contradictions to the max while killing the earth.

Obviously since Nick became a rightoid he now believes this is based and redpilled, but when he was younger Land wrote some stuff relating to how this deterritorialization in being an extension of the centuries old 'social-crisis' still gave the proles an opportunity for liberation, But unlike some more idealist contemporaries, rejected the idea of revolution being an inevitability.

>>670180
retarded internet meme ideology for children.

Accelerationism is a meme ideology for people who realize leftcoms are right and that activism is pointless, and that revolution will only come about as a result in a shift of the material conditions, but who also want to look hip and cool and not like they are just sitting on their ass, when at the end of the day they are just another breed of hyperonilne cargocultists, this time praying to the neoliberal gods to deliver shittier conditions.

>>670242
What are you talking about?
I don't get it
When I declared Trump 2016 and Biden 2020 as the burgerstahni acceleration candidates I didn't consider them goes
Just men
In fact I was relying on precisely this

Accelerationism is an psyop for leftoids to larp as radlibs.

>>670243
"Gods" was there as a fancy expression to drive in the "cargo cult" comparison. My main point is that accelerationism is just a fancy way of doing fuck all why hoping someone else will do all the work for you. Same as dengist cargocultists who pray that Xi and China will do socialism and everyone will be saved. At the end of the day accelerationism is pointless, because, just like other meme ideologies, eg /dead/ postleftism, are too irrelevant to ever form any active block of political subjects who could ever contribute effectively to turning the ship of history towards a more accelerated direction when it hits a hingepoint. Your Biden / Trump vote is too isolated to matter, and you won't ever form a proper voting block to swing the election your way. What in the end effects the result of history are the hidden material forces of economy, sociology and ecology, sprinkled in with a small sample of pure randomness. So at the end of the day all you are doing is praying for bad things to happen.

>>670250
No, Nick land defined accelerationism at one point as the notion that the trolley problem is bunk because by the time you realize ones there the trolley has already accelerated past your decision

This however is naive the reason acceleration operates as such a force is because acceleration compounds

Just like for Foucault borrowing the electricians axiom where there is power there is resistance we can make a similar analogy to physics here

The thing is already barreling past using force against it is futile but add a bit of force to it and well the lively thing about acceleration is that it is compounding

Gotta go faster
Sucks to be you burgers, should have cared more about the people you bombed turnabout is fair play

Now burn to the ground or actually fight for socialism

The current labour struggles give me some little hope in you and your labour struggles are accelerating fast enough that they daren't try and weaponise the current labour struggles in Iran like they normally would

Burn or communism you bloodthirsty motherfuckers

>>670260
The trolley metaphor is perfect for why I think accelerationism is absolutely pointless. You are neither going to catch up to the trolley in time to give it a proper push, nor are you in any way strong enough for the push to amount to anything but absolutely the tinyest increase in speed. To translate it into human language, for one, how do YOU know which choice is accelerationist? How do you know Trump winning in 2020 wouldn't be more accelerationist than Biden? If you look back at history, you see hundreds of times over people doing A to prevent B, but ending up ensuring that B+ will happen, and it will be even worse than the original B (case and point US Jeffersonians who are solely responsible for the abbomination the country became). So how are you certain in your own ability to pick out what is the speedyest outcome? And then again, even if you do pick it out, do you seriously think you yourself will in any way be able to effectively help it come into fruition?

>>670264
>how do YOU know which choice is accelerationist?
How do you know I don't?
Plz try answer question before checking the spoilers below
In these specific cases I knew because Trump was clearly uninitiated into the Washington game and for Biden it's obvious he's going senile and even ignoring that one term presidencies are always destabilising to the burger regime

>>670266
Didn't check spoilers yet. My answer would be that I don't think you don't know, rather that I don't believe you can make anything more than an educated guess, which historically doesn't seem to amount to much more than a roll of semi-loaded dice regardless.

At the end of the day anything is pointless without revolutionary acts and organization.

>>670266
>Checked spoilers
Okay, I think if anything you should take away from Trump and now Biden (as well as basically all presidents after Nixon), is that they all run on autopilot, and don't really have that much autonomy of action. Trump was incompetant idiot, but did no better or worse than Obongo, same with Biden now. If anything I would say Trump 2nd term would be more destabilizing since if anything he at least fucked over the image of legitimacy for the US via his idiotic babblings.

>>670272
No need for a second term
>if anything he at least fucked over the image of legitimacy for the US
Somewoundsdon'theal

Nothingisbeyondourreach

It's based

tbh despite being more of a meme than anything else, it's the only path possible right now

No acceleration. Support the southron peoples' liberation front and the establishment of the confederate socialist states of america. It is our only option.

I doesn't matter. We have no say at all. No one of us has any actual power in any western capitalist country. Plain and simple. We are just a very, very, very small and absolutely insignificant minority. Capitalism is going its own way regardless, for us it's just like being dogs barking at the sun. Truth is that capitalism is already accelerating, it has no other choice and we are all going to hell with it. And btw, exactly because we are basically nothing, turning into "accelerationists" wouldn't absolutely do anything.
>>671085
That pic is awesome.

I support technological accelerationism.

>>670180
No. Just look at america and think if them being far right economically has made their situation better or their workers more class conscious.

>>670233
Actually feel like adding a few things to this.

>/acc as a criticism of 'the Californian ideology'
What also needs to be understood about a lot of Lands ideology is that contained within his stuff is in a lot of ways a brutally materialist criticism of the 'Californian ideology' also sometimes called 'silicon valley ideology'. What is this 'californian ideology'?, Californian ideology is a repackaging of the same idealism of the 'whig history' of the 1800s->WW1 in which a arbitrary line of 'progress' is drawn and then from that point history is viewed as a struggle to move society towards the far end of that line.

The 'Whig historians' of the 19th century believed that the spread of enlightenment and rationalist values, coupled with the 1st and 2nd industrial revolutions had put the world on a smooth path towards capitalist modernity, where everyone's old, archaic, patriarchal and irrational beliefs would give way to empiricism and rationality [Which the whig historians themselves did not perceive had effectively become their own golden idols]

It took the writings of Nietzsche and to a degree the first world war [Where some of the most 'developed' and 'modern' nations destroyed themselves through mass bloodletting for no perceived 'good'] to bring this ideological trend to an end for a time.

The Californian ideology effectively recouples the ideology of 'Whig-History' with a fixation on the idea of technological progress, With the idea being that with the march of technological advancement this will push the world more and more towards some sort of liberal-utopia / 'Liberal-Post-Scarcity' where once again everyone's archaic and 'outdated' beliefs give way to the bearers of the ideology's golden idols, in this case the Fukuyamist 'end of history' where the world is united under American style capitalism, democracy and culture.

Obviously disproving Whig history and the subsuqent californian ideology is in itself pretty easy, As in reality there is no true proven INHERENT link between further technological advancement and some perceived 'progress' and asides from the most hierarchy of needs to stay physically alive, 'Living well' varies drastically between different peoples with different tastes.

>>670180
no

>>670250
>>670242
All fax no printer

https://youtu.be/b7d_AJiz5Rs
Gotta go faster

>>671515
Good post. Pushing for concessions is the real accelerationism

>>670180

it's a broadly pointless concept, acceleration is happening and will continue to happen regardless of anyone's "ideology"

>>670180
Accelerationism requires objectively taking a position that requires worsening the conditions of working class and oppressed people, then demanding they let you lead them.
Accelerationism here deployed in the traditional sense of "attempting to shape capital to deepen crisis"
It neither works, nor really has much of a basis aside from a moralism and a belief that workers are base animals who revolt only because the slop is bad

It’s an advanced way of giving up.

Accelerationism doesn't mean anything if there is no proof of praxis. What could lead a capitalist nation towards collapse has nothing to do with political issues and all the more with economic issues. No amount of vooting will accelerate a nation's demise, especially a west European first world country. The people that could make or break us are the corporations and that's completely out of our hands. No amount of libertarian utopian childish fantasy of "voting with your wallet" will do anything either.

The thing that would kill a first world nation is total capital flight and market flight if that makes sense. Accelerationism is a meme that only works for third world countries already on the brink.

>>679402
Yea, basically it's "buying fair trade" as if that's praxis.