/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

This thread is so fucking cringe I don't even feel mad for you Gonzaloid anon. I just feel sad that your life has really come down to this.

>>673512
Why would I support Gonzalo I am a upper middle class social democrat, you think I could afford a pc if I was poor.

it's real and I want it

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/7337/shining-path-struggle-peru

>>673514
Smartphones can cost 70 to 100 dollar easily

>>673514
Damn

>>673515

https://brtrain.wordpress.com/2022/01/03/interview-designing-political-military-games/

Last year I did an interview about my games and thoughts about game design with the group “Anti-Imperialist Action Ireland” (because they asked nicely). I prefer to do interviews by email but they would have liked a live event, so we compromised by having a computer voice read the transcript quickly while a Terry Gilliam drawing wobbled its jaw up and down.

If this is too alarming an image for you, you can read the transcript at anti-imperialist-action-ireland.com/blog/2022/01/03/political-military-board-game-design-with-brian-train/

Based???

Someone post this on iceberg thread

>>673517
Good job Johnson, you posted it again.

So what are the rules? Does another player play as the Fujimori government?

>>673579
Yes, it's 2 player. You can read about it at this link >>673515

>>673509
okay, so you need to translate the rules of the fucking game and upload pics of the board and whatever the box includes

>>673512
Fuck off, BadEmpanada

>>673514
mask off

It’s worth mentioning that for a long time in Peru (perhaps up to the present day idk) making statements that were pro SP was banned by the bourgeois government. So when everyone says poooooh Peruvians all hate SP, it’s literally not true it was capitalist mandated to do so

>I thought you would find it a good meme that one of the most popular games in Peru is a military board game where you play as Chairman Gonzalo. The game is banned but kids share it around like it is weed in America lol.
Fuente:

>>673826
Exaclty
This thread is a monument to the lows of gonzaloids and their schizominds.

>>673509
Otro gringo pretendiendo no ser un gringo que habla en ingles perfecto
sage

>>673670
For the moment, however, Fujimori enjoys a sweeping mandate. One poll, by the Lima-based firm Datum, showed that on April 6 – the day after Fujimori suspended the constitution, dissolved the congress, sent tanks into the streets and rounded up political opponents – his popularity jumped 15 points to 79 percent. Another survey by the firm Apoyo gave Fujimori an 81 percent approval rating, while some other polls peg his support at even higher levels.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1992/05/02/public-pundits-spellbound-by-fujimori/51f74782-9a4b-4c35-b3be-82678ef2c395/
La aprobación de Fujimori se incremento en mas de 20 puntos al mes siguiente dei autogolpe (de 59 % a
82%).(Sem . Econ, 1992, p.3) "Approval ratings of fujimori went up more than 20% the following month after the self-coup"

APPROVAL RATINGS OF FUJIMORI WENT UP MORE THAN 20% THE FOLLOWING MONTH AFTER THE SELF-COUP

Attached file that links to this: https://www.semanaeconomica.com/legal-politica/politica/222542-asi-se-pronuncio-semanaeconomica-sobre-el-5-de-abril-en-1992

<"On April 7, a poll by Apoyo in Lima indicated that 71% approved the dissolution of Congress and 89% approved the restructuring of the Judiciary." https://web.archive.org/web/20150923200631/http://www.caretas.com.pe/2002/1715/articulos/golpe.phtml
<"On April 5, 1992, Mr. Fujimori closed courts and the congress, asserting that he needed greater powers to combat corruption, cocaine trafficking and a surging rebellion by the Maoist Shining Path guerrillas. The moves pushed his local public approval rating to 81 percent. But the outside world recoiled in face of the constitutional break. Scores High in Polls

<One year later, Peru's austere leader seemed relaxed and confident as he fielded questions. Today, polls still give Mr. Fujimori approval ratings of 62 to 67 percent, among the highest for any leader in the Americas."
>https://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/06/world/fujimori-sees-a-peaceful-and-a-prosperous-peru.html
>https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/2017-04/AT_EC240417.pdf Another article quoting that 80% figure

GONZALO WAS SO POPULAR THE NSA SAID THAT CAPITULATION/ENDING OF SENDERO LUMINOSO WOULD ENSURE REELECTION IN 1995 AND THAT IT WOULD GIVE PUBLIC OPINION OF THE GOVERNMENT A BOOST (GOP)
>https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB96/930730%20Reports%20of%20Negotiations%20with%20Guzman.pdf

SHINING PATH WAS NEVER VERY POPULAR
<"At its height in mid-1992, it was believed that Shining Path had between 3,000 and 4,000 armed cadres and 50,000 supporters in various civilian support groups and political cadres…"
>When All The Evils Come Together, Pablo G. Dreyfus. page 378

<50,000/492,507 (Supporters/Ayacucho Department Population in 1993)=0.10 or 10% of the population of Ayacucho Department Population, 50,000/22,693,443 (Supporters/Total Peruvian Census in 1993)=0.002 or 0.2% of the total Peruvian population in that year, remember that this was their peak, 1992/1993
>https://www.inei.gob.pe/estadisticas/indice-tematico/population/ "Población total, censada y omitida, según año censal" "Población censada, según departamento y año censal" Microsoft Excel or https://sheet.zoho.com/sheet/excelviewer
<"Do you approve of the Shining Path' was asked directly. "Only 11% of poor residents in Lima approved, 58% disapproved, and the rest did not answer."
>Charles Kenney, Fujimori's Coup and the Breakdown of Democracy in Latin America.

>>683802
yes as was just stated, if you ban people from supporting the opposition, your poll numbers will go up

Hilarious you post the washington post as your main source also. Glowie.

You are literally simping for Fujimori, the CIA backed candidate. Disgusting

>>684120
>https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB96/930730%20Reports%20of%20Negotiations%20with%20Guzman.pdf

<"GUZMAN MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT END SL; IT WOULD, ACCORDING TO OPPOSITION POLITICIANS, BOOST FUJIMORI'S POPULARITY SO MUCH THAT HIS 1995 REELECTION WOULD BE ASSURED"

>WAHH YOU CAN'T LINK WP BECAUSE IT HURTS MY FEELINGS!!!!111

KEEP CRYING AT A LINK THAT ITSELF SOURCES TO A FUCKING POLL FAGGOT, THERE'S CORROBORATING REPUTABLE PERUVIAN NEWSPAPER IN THERE STUPID FUCK GRINGO GOD FUCKING DAMN (CARETAS)
ON THE SUBJECT OF CARETAS, THEIR MAIN FUCKING REPORTER GUSTAVO GORRITI WAS FUCKING ARRESTED DURING THE 1992 COUP
THE NEW CONSTITUTION THAT CRIMINALIZED TERRORISM FORMALLY WAS RATIFIED IN 1993 AND THESE POLLS ARE FROM 1992

And CIA no?

GONZALO IS A FRIEND OF MONTESINOS
<see video

>Vladimiro Montesinos sends to the terrorist Abimael Guzman a solicitation of aid of his "militants" to skew the vote in Keiko Fujimori's favor (2016)
>Dear countryman and friend:
>Sending a cordial hug wishing this with excellent health and good spirits as it characterizes Arequipans in situations of adversity. As you can see, it is very likely that you understand the prospect that KF (Keiko Fujimori) will win the elections in the first place this next April 10th. There is the probability of being elected in the second round next May. If this is so, we would have you and my person, jointly the historical alternative to culminate our task of completing peace in the country. Whose fact is feasible, if she wins then we would stop the conversation. For this reason I ask you to send a message to your wife Miriam with my greetings and suggesting militant's support the election of KF with their vote, a big hug."
Montesinos2: "April 13, 2016
Dear countryman and friend:
Having concluded the first electoral round with the known result, I request your response for the second round to be held on June 5th. With the usual appreciation and greetings to your wife and partner Miriam.
Guzman1: "April 13, 2016 Dear fellow countryman and friend
I hope to reply as soon as possible
Yours truly"
Guzman2: "April 11, 2016 Dear Countryman and Friend
Unfortunately, on this occasion we will not be able to support you, we hope it will be possible in the future, yours truly"

WHY THE FUCK WAS ABIMAEL LEFT ALIVE FOR 30 FUCKING YEARS WHEREAS CHE WAS MURDERED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IN A REMOTE PART OF THE JUNGLE AND CASTRO HAD THE FEDERAL AGENTS SICKED ON HIM FOR MOST HIS LIFE WITH COUNTLESS ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS?

OPPOSITION TO VELASCO, JUST AS THE CIA AND PINOCHET WERE
<"But Guzman and others were accused of being saboteurs of the Agrarian Reform Law, and the pro-Soviet Communist newspaper accused them of being CIA agents".
>Shining Path's Stalin and Trotsky page 176
WHY WERE THEY ACCUSED OF BEING FEDS BACK IN THE 60s and 70s?

<"The fear of a Peruvian invasion was part of an ideological structure of the regime that had just brought down the leftist government of Salvador Allende. It was based not only on the fact that our armed forces were equipped with planes, tanks and other Soviet weapons in quantities that at that time exceeded what was had in Chile. Added to the doctrinal position of the first phase of the Revolutionary Government of the Armed Forces chaired by Juan Velasco Alvarado and its closeness to Cuba and international communism - a relationship more apparent than real."
>https://web.archive.org/web/20081202185713/http://www.caretas.com.pe/2004/1826/articulos/chile.html
<Hector Bejar, ex-ELN Guerilla and government employee tasked with aiding in land reform under Velasco, said that the Shining Path was CIA funded
>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/17/peru-foreign-minister-resigns-hector-bejar
>https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76ve10/d591
<BasedVelasco.png

>>684120
Ever notice that the only arguments Glowzaloites have is to autistically screech at sources they find icky with NOTHING to back their own claims up beyond feels? Just a pattern I've seen, they seem brain damaged

you fucking clown the NSA itself is saying that Fujimori resolving the crisis would boost public support of the government and would ensure re-election. If the American glowuyghurs are saying this in their formerly classified documents they're not lying, you're just retarded lmfao

>>684222
>THE NEW CONSTITUTION THAT CRIMINALIZED TERRORISM FORMALLY WAS RATIFIED IN 1993 AND THESE POLLS ARE FROM 1992
yes i am sure in the year 1992 there was no CIA involvement or suppression of socialists kek.

>gonzalo is a friend of montesinos
they were in the same prison, which is where the relationship was sparked kek. like the prison of your mind lmao

>WHY THE FUCK WAS ABIMAEL LEFT ALIVE FOR 30 FUCKING YEARS
so as not to make a martyr of him, and to stop reprisals

>WHY WERE THEY ACCUSED OF BEING FEDS BACK IN THE 60s and 70s?
accussed, you should see the accusations the soviets made about china in the 60s and 70s

>hector bejar, ex- ELN guerilla and government employee tasked with aiding land reform under valesco, said the the shining path was CIA funded
from the article
>“I’m convinced, although I can’t prove it"
so a guy said a thing. Sweet. Who cares?

>based valesco image
so valesco ordered an investigation into CIA activities in Peru. Good thing too because a guy he gave a job too was a CIA guy. Doesn't say shit about SP does it though

Well, looks like it is time again to bash against gonzaloites, what a great way to spend time
>>673670
Except peruvians do hate SP, it is not a fond memory for anyone involved (except of course the victors generals and politicians).
The apollogy laws are a meme, the only ones afected are minuscules groups of the last gonzaloides like Movadef, who could be said that they were meme'd to death (and still are) by triying to fly so close to the sun of being proAbimael while not falling for that law.
Oh, I'm sorry Movadef is Opportunistic, bad and [insert text of norwegian book club]
Those laws should be abolished, because stupidity as bad as the rehabilitation of Abimael is simple to fight off.
>>684324
>Still screeches Bad source! Bad source!
>>684120
>if you ban people from supporting the opposition, your poll numbers will go up
How does that even works? Do you read what you type?
The situation exposed is as clear as water "Hello mr. do you like that the president dissolved congress? Yes, I do"
Why this did happened? Fragmentation and a congress without a Fujimori mayority, early political scandals and a negative by congress for going all the gas in the antiterrorist laws (for the expected legalization of HR violations, as expected). Congress wasn't very loved.
Fujimori just went "executive power goes brrrr" and those who wanted an iron fist supported him, the mayority as polls showed lmao

Just putting history isn't simping for the Rat mononeuronal retard
>Gonzalo was (lmao) a friend of Montesinos bc they were in the same prison
Very clever Mr. Gonzaloid, negating the phase of the "peace agreements" the meetings between the two and the cordiality they managed.
Kek, in that prison ended up the leader of the MRTA and Feliciano and they didn't ended up being friends of the Fujimoris spymaster
HAHAHAHA 2016
Gonzaloids (handshake emote) Fujimorists

Yeah, Guzman wasn't killed to not make him a martyr to gonzaloids (in Fujimori's era) and later to show Peru's compromise with human rights and all that stuff (after the megatrial of '07)
>Why were they accused of being FEDs in the leftist Military dictatorship
For being fucking ultras
I can write a whole essay about the good the bad and how Velasco fucked up sometimes, but the accusations ends up just being
They (all ALL maoist groups, well Mao Zedong though groups) were ultras and called the goverment "a fascist corporativist state".
That sipped down to the book about how SP could be connected to the CIA in the 80s (that was posted in various threads) and Bejar's point of view. Both of them are wrong, SP was just for itself and as we all know their activities and failure destroyed the left as a whole (mixed with the implosion of the USSR), the political parties landscape in general and the country in a mental, economical and social sense, and the acceleration ended up in the Fujimoris neoliberal dictatorship.
And to end
<How did Montesinos the Rat lost his tail in the 70's?
Velasco, or well, the armed forces found out by the investigations of counterintelligence that Montesinos was a rat and expelled him from the army and he ran away to Argentina.
Your framing is idiotic Mr. gonzaloid as your thinking is
>El 5 de septiembre de 1975 él arribó a Washington. En los EEUU visitaría los edificios de la CIA, el Pentágono, el Consejo de Seguridad Nacional y el Departamento de Estado, donde conversaría con Luigi Einaudi, actual número dos de la OEA. En los EEUU se le consideraba como el 'joven oficial militar más teóricamente sofisticado en la doctrina de seguridad nacional' y con 'considerables potenciales de liderazgo'.
> A su regreso él fue echado de las FFAA y encarcelado por haber abandonado su puesto, viajar inautorizadamente, falsificar su pasaporte y vender secretos de estado. Al año salió de la carcel para ir viajando entre diversos países de la región hasta que en 1983, cuando resurgió el cargo de traición a la patria, huyó a Argentina. En esos años él se graduó de abogado y se convirtió en algo mas que defensor legal de narcos.
https://www.verdadyreconciliacionperu.com/admin/files/articulos/1056_digitalizacion.pdf

>>684324
I'm not the same anon you stupid fucking retard, the only thing the WP is there is corroboration, there's another source in there that I can't be arsed to find the name of that says the same thing and is a reputable source from Peru