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 No.674824

Is it leftist to have a family, to have children? What is the socialist take on natalism vs anti natalism? Should you have kids, how many, and should you train them to be commie? Also if so where is the best place to find a likeminded spouse. Or is "breeding" misguided to begin with?

 No.674825

If you find a nice lady and you have a nice home together you can raise a kid or not if you want to, depending on how you both feel about it. If you are an insane breeder or a death cultist, neither of these things are leftist and you need to take your culture wars elsewhere

 No.674846

>>674824
Let people individually decide if they want children or not.

 No.674848

>Is it leftist to have a family, to have children
No
But also yes
There is no “political slant” on fuckin having kids
> What is the socialist take on natalism vs anti natalism?
Anti-natalism is liberal to the core, it assumes life is inherently suffering and non-existence is preferable, it promotes hopelessness in proles
> Should you have kids, how many, and should you train them to be commie?
None

 No.674860

Who and how many babies one should get should be organized by the state, instead of allowing people to blindly reproduce like animals.

 No.674870

>>674860
Man
Westoid communists really are so fucking easy to despise
Why are you fucks so obsessed with controlling proles as if we are animals, suburbanite liberal scum

 No.674885

I predict that this thread is going to be a shitshow, just like every thread like it in the past.

>Is it leftist to have a family, to have children?
Is it "leftist" to have breakfast or own a dog? These kind of questions need to stop, there is no "anti-leftist" essence to these things as if leftism was some practice to attuning oneself to the "spiritual" quiddity of a thing. Is having a garden right wing? Is having a fishing rod left wing?
>What is the socialist take on natalism vs anti natalism?
I don't think anti-natalism is a defensible position, at least in regards to its implicit claims on the "morality" of pleasure and pain, and what non-existence implies.
>Should you have kids, how many,
Refer to the first response I made. This isn't for us to say.
>and should you train them to be commie?
Do you believe your principles are proper and that Marxism is true? If so, what is the issue with teaching your kids this? Why lie to them?
>Also if so where is the best place to find a likeminded spouse.
Outside? Just talk to people and see if they agree with you if that's what you want to find.
>Or is "breeding" misguided to begin with?
No, and get off the internet if you start thinking of relationships as "breeding".

 No.674913

>>674860
This worked in China so well

 No.675004

Just let people have sex
If folks want kids they’ll have them
If they don’t they won’t

 No.675011

sex is cringe

 No.675012

>>674824
Absolutely. Families are the smallest collective.

 No.675014

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Daily reminder the old IWW, Emma Goldman, and William Z. Foster all advocated the birth strike.
https://justine-s-writes.medium.com/birth-strike-how-the-predecessors-of-antifa-laid-the-foundations-for-abortion-in-america-5c147c7670dd

 No.675017

Ok

 No.675020

Silly thread.

 No.675021

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>Is [thing] [ideology]ist?
NO NO NO FOR FUCKS SAKE NO YOU INTERNETBRAINED RETARD NO. FUCK YOU YOU DIPSHIT. Normal every day activities aren't fucking ideological, its only your fucking retarded brain, rottent to hell and back due to your terminal online illness, that DEMANDS that EVERY. FUCKING. SINGLE aspect of life be politicized. Sex isn't leftist. Having kids isn't leftist. Going or not going to work isn't leftist. Jacking off to your disgusting fetishes isn't pro or anti leftists. Walking your misbehaving shitty dog isn't leftist. Drinking or using drugs isn't leftist. Being (you) isn't leftists. Fuck you.

 No.675026

>>674824
>Is it leftist to have a family, to have children?
Having children is an apolitical concept, so no. It's also not right-wing too. It's a person's choice to have the urge or not.
>What is the socialist take on natalism vs anti natalism?
Depends on the person's values first. A soc can be a natalist due to ideological continuation reasons, while one can also be anti-natalist due to economical ones.
>how many
I'd choose 6-8
>and should you train them to be commie?
Ofc! A parent should teach their children the right values.

 No.675029

>>675011
t. single forever
>>675004
based take
children are the torchbearers of communism

 No.675036

>>675014
>For these anarchist syndicalists, procreation under capitalism was an abomination since it prolonged the system by creating more “wage slaves”for capitalist bosses. In their view no one should have any children under capitalism. The agenda was to have working-class women drastically reduce the number of births via contraception and abortion. The lower birthrates would dry up the pool of labor, which would then ensure imminent crisis for capitalism and imperialism. This applied the syndicalist call for a massive general strike to the realm of childbearing.

>They erroneously believed this strategy would empower working-class women and the working class as a whole. Women would supposedly be “freed” from household labor. Workers’ wages would supposedly increase as the birthrate shrunk, since the absence of a reserve army of labor would force capitalist bosses to give into workers’ demands. Deliberately reducing the population would also give workers bargaining power with the State, these anarchists alleged.
Yeah maybe this was true in 1915 but it's not any more. Capitalists don't need more babies now that nearly every "productive" job is automated to some degree.

 No.675041

>>675036
yeah, that's why everyone and their mother whines about muh demographic crisis

 No.675042

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/250016/pope-francis-general-audience-society-loses-when-dogs-and-cats-take-the-place-of-children
>Pope Francis said on Wednesday that it is a civilizational loss when dogs and cats replace children in society, encouraging couples to “take the risk” to become parents.

>“The other day, I was talking about the demographic winter that we have today … many couples do not have children because they do not want to, or they have just one — but they have two dogs, two cats,” Pope Francis said at his general audience on Jan. 5.

>“Yes, dogs and cats take the place of children. Yes, it’s funny, I understand, but it is the reality, and this denial of fatherhood and motherhood diminishes us, takes away humanity.”

 No.675048

>>675042
>leader of semitic fertility cult hates animals
more at 8

 No.675053

Hey guys is popping in a bidet toilet or pooping in a traditional toilet leftist? Is it the right dialectics for a Marxist-Leninist-pro-natalist-Hoxahist-Americanist?

 No.675054

>>674824
>>675011
Sex is BASED.

 No.675055

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 No.675060

>>675014
>Faggots are still shilling this literal boomer article

 No.675064

>>675060
seethe breeder

 No.675069

>>675060
If you read the article, it's very obvious it was written by one of us parodying a pro-lifer.

 No.675072

>>675054
Sex is based, but reproduction is cringe

 No.675079

>>675055
that's a wrong settlerist position

 No.675082

>>675014
OH YEAH NOW THIS SHIT I LOVE! You know what is even more fucking retarded and hyperonline than politicizing every aspect of everyday life? Its to do it by waving around a shitty appeal to authority from authority figures long fucking taken by the maggots who failed to do absolutely anything of note. Yes, of course! Foster supported it so I must as well!

 No.675085

>>675082
>>675064

 No.675087

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>>675060
>he literally fell for a medium article

 No.675090

>>675085
Note that I never fucking stated my own position on the topic you hyperpartisan mongoloid.

 No.675095

>>675090
why are you so mad then

 No.675160

>>675095
Because as I stated in the last thread on this topic, no one but the most terminally online idiots will actually decide to have or not have kids due to them being pro or anti natalist. So in the end, just like other meme ideologies like egoism or illegalism, I can for deffinate, without even engaging with pros/cons of it, say that it is fucking pointless.

 No.675505

>>675042
Pope Francis is a communist liberation theologian, right?

 No.676377

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>tfw maupin agrees with the pope

 No.676679

>>675014
Someone ask Jason Unruhe and his ultra-left third worldist cult followers what they think of birth strike.

 No.677370

>>676377
Maupins stance on this shit is literally indistinguishable from alt light reactionaries like Gavin McInnes

 No.677452

>>677370
If I had a Twitter I'd send him this tweet and get his opinion.

 No.677460

>>675055
Kind of weird because Margaret Sanger's views were almost identical to Foster's on this subject. She said once socialism had taken over everyone would want to have bucketloads of kids.

 No.678394

>>675055
Why hasn’t Maupin reproduced?

 No.678538

>>675055
Protip: just because you organize with women, stand with women on the picket line, see women as comrades, doesn't mean you don't also see women as a sex class and see their ability to have children as means of production to be seized. Also, America in the 1910s was an extremely sexist society.


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