/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Shameless self bump

Wow. I didn't know this was going on and the American reporting is shamelessly self-serving.

Good research

I raise your bet

Glowie anticommunists will seethe at this thread.

>>678345
Q predicted this

Statement by the Socialist Movement of Kazakhstan on the situation in the country
In a statement about the large-scale mobilizations and protests in the country, the Socialist Movement of Kazakhstan calls for international solidarity to the demonstrators and demands the withdrawal of troops from the cities, the resignation of all Nazarbayev officials, the release of all political prisoners and detainees, the legalization of the Communist Party and trade unions, as well as the nationalization of Kazakhstan's entire extractive and large-scale industry.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2022/01/statement-by-socialist-movement-of-kazakhstan-on-the-situation-in-the-country.html
https://archive.is/WOmYK
>Even though Israel’s relationship with Kazakhstan has become noticeably closer since Netanyahu began his second stint as Israeli prime minister in 2009, Kazakhstan has been the lynchpin of Israel’s Central Asia strategy since the early 1990s. Israel is Kazakhstan’s fifth largest Asian trade partner, and imports over $1.4 billion worth of goods from Kazakhstan each year.
>The oil industry is the principal driver of Israel’s economic links with Kazakhstan. Israel imports 25 percent of its oil from Kazakhstan. Chen Bar-Yosef, the Managing Director of the Israeli National Infrastructure Ministry’s Fuel Authority, has praised the quality of Kazakhstan’s oil, and has encouraged Kazakh manufacturers to sell oil directly to Israeli private companies.
https://thediplomat.com/2016/07/the-israel-kazakhstan-partnership/
Communist party in Kazakhstan is literally banned
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Kazakhstan
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/kazakhstan/9227899/Kazakhstan-extends-ban-on-Communist-Party.html
"Chairman of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Gennady Zyuganov on mass protests in Kazakhstan"
https://twitter.com/kprf/status/1478865627632873481
Translation/ Summation (not mine: https://twitter.com/NarchoArmChair/status/1478868119808614400):
"The unrest in Kazakhstan, in fact, was provoked by the government itself, which inflated the price of gas by a factor of two. This has hurt many segments of the population, since more than 60% of the consumption of liquefied gas accounts for motor vehicles. At the same time, it is obvious that citizens' discontent is of a broader nature: the prices for everything are going up, while the salaries are low. In general, the oligarchic capital, which has established itself in the post-Soviet space, does not take into account the interests of working people. All of this has led to mass protests. Looking at what is happening in Kazakhstan, there is something for Putin and Mishustin to think about. Prices are skyrocketing in Russia too [..] It is the oligarch's free reign that leads to such consequences. The powers that be are actively exploiting this by declaring a hybrid war on Russia. This time they are trying to take over Kazakhstan, rich in natural resources and having the longest border in the world with our country - more than 7,500 kilometers. It is important to understand that there will be no peace in our expanses without close socio-economic and political-diplomatic ties with the CIS countries. We are encircled by NATO from all sides. The collective West will do everything to destabilize the situation."
>US Embassy in Kazakhstan: We are closely monitoring the situation and condemning acts of violence and destruction of property
https://twitter.com/AJABreaking/status/1479050842930036737
https://twitter.com/MFA_KZ/status/1479130079666098179?s=20
UK stands against rioters challenging the Kazakhstan government.
https://twitter.com/patrickwintour/status/1479169654551724039?s=20

>>678257
send the 0 proof schizo shit to siberia

>>678257
>>kazakhstan government - supported by turkey, CSTO, the US government, and ISRAEL.
Don't forget CPUSA lmao
https://archive.is/wip/S2te9
https://vacpusa.org/2022/01/05/stand-with-kazakhstan/

and where is proofs

>>678373
right here friend :)
>>678353

"The KKE welcomes the great workers' strikes and popular demonstrations in Kazakhstan against inequality, unemployment, poverty and misery, the other great social problems to which the capitalist system has led millions of people, 30 years after the counter-revolutionary uprising. dissolution of the USSR "states in a statement the Press Office of the KKE Central Committee.

"We express our solidarity with the thousands of workers who, in defiance of the police regime and repression, took to the streets, demanding the improvement of their standard of living, expressing their opposition to the robbery of the country's energy wealth by the monopolies.

We demand:

-The release of all protesters arrested by the police, as well as the release of all political prisoners.
-The abolition of all anti-union-anti-labor laws, which have outlawed hundreds of unions in recent years, in an effort to control the labor-union movement by the government.
"The legitimacy of the Socialist Movement of Kazakhstan and the Communist Party of Kazakhstan, which have been outlawed by the country's authorities."
https://www.athina984.gr/en/2022/01/05/kke-chairetizoyme-tis-kinitopoiiseis-sto-kazakstan/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China–Kazakhstan_relations

>chinese embassy larping about a new COVID strain in Kazakhstan a couple years ago, Kazakhs say it's fake news
wtf lmao

>>678384
Juno please stay serious

>>678373
>>678384
shut up junkoid

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/1/6/kazakhstan-unrest-how-has-the-world-reacted

"China, which shares a border with Kazakhstan, said the situation was an “internal affair”.

“China believes that the Kazakh authorities can solve the problem properly,” Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin told reporters on Thursday, adding Beijing hoped the situation would stabilise soon.

Since becoming independent in 1991, Kazakhstan has sought good ties with China, which receives most of its oil exports."

>>678387
>>678388
Sneed urself

Kazakhstan is in chaos. Here’s why the West should be watching.
Widespread unrest has gripped Kazakhstan, where protests against fuel-price hikes in recent days have escalated into anti-government demonstrations that have prompted a violent response from police (and an apparent internet blackout).

In Almaty, the country’s largest city, protesters reportedly set the presidential palace ablaze on Wednesday as they clashed with police. Kazakh ​​President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev—who dismissed his government and declared a state of emergency in response to the protests—said he intended to “act as tough as possible.”

On Thursday, officials said dozens of protesters and police officers were killed in clashes, while the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), a Russian-led military alliance, began sending troops to Kazakhstan on Tokayev’s invitation.

With the former Soviet republic headed for instability, we reached out to our experts and associates to understand what this moment means for the energy-rich Central Asian nation—and why the world should be paying attention.
How dangerous is this sort of instability for Central Asia more broadly if it spreads beyond Kazakhstan? Is that a distinct possibility?

The instability is unlikely to spread beyond Kazakhstan. The real question is how Moscow and Beijing respond. Moscow could use this as a pretext to take back northern Kazakhstan, home to most of the country’s hydrocarbons and a large ethnic Russian population.

— Melinda Haring

We saw three revolutions/revolts/coups in neighboring Kyrgyzstan. The key question is: To what extent did the victory of Islamists in the fall of Afghanistan energize Islamist forces throughout Central Asia? We might not be aware that we are in a new stage of political reality there. Older, Soviet-era leaders may be rejected by the new generation that grew up under independence and in a much more Islam-infused environment. I did notice the video clips of demonstrators conducting mass prayers in the open air. That’s something I never saw before in Kazakhstan.

— Ariel Cohen

Is there any way the US government can, or should, engage in the situation?

Yes, Washington needs to tell the Kazakh authorities to stop throttling the internet and to avoid violence. In the long-term, the United States must press the Kazakhs to hold legitimately free and fair elections or else they will see more and more protest activity.

— Melinda Haring

The US government has a limited ability to intervene in this crisis; the United States has little influence in Kazakhstan, and it does not even have an ambassador there at the moment. In addition, many of the tools that the United States would normally use in this kind of situation (i.e., sanctions) are poorly suited for the Kazakh case; major American energy companies are deeply integrated into the Kazakh economy, and sanctions on these industries would risk production shortfalls that could impact America’s European allies. In addition, given the Russian sensitivity to the perception that the United States supports so-called color revolutions in the region, support for the Kazakh protestors is liable to increase tensions with Moscow, an unhelpful step in the current environment. The best approach for the US government here is likely to be a hands-off one, at least until more is known about the developing situation.

— Emma Ashford

We should be concerned about chaos not destroying the significant achievements of the people of Kazakhstan. It is a large country—three time zones—with considerable resources of oil, gas, uranium, wheat, and many other important commodities. It has an educated and tolerant people that suffered a lot in the Soviet era. The United States should definitely collect and analyze information, talk to everybody, protect considerable American investments there, and support sovereignty, territorial integrity, and the secular nature of Kazakhstan—which has excellent relations with the United States.

— Ariel Cohen
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-streets-of-kazakhstan-are-in-chaos-heres-why-the-west-should-be-watching/

I WANT TO BELIEVE

Blue - russia
Green - china
Orange - kazakhstan
Red - sinkiang
>he still thinks this has nothing to do with sinkiang

What do we know about the character of the unrest? How organized are they? How left wing are they? How secular are they?

also leftychinlets eternally malding that a cute girl is assembling research on one of the first big current events of 2022

>>678421
>Red - sinkiang
Is that another way of spelling Xinjiang? Cuz that's what's highlighted in red.

>>678440
>What do we know about the character of the unrest?
It's poor people angry about the centrist oligarchy, class disparity and skyrocketing gas prices.
>How organized are they?
They (allegedly) started out disorganized but the illegal communist party and the communist parties of the region in general are coming out in support of the protests. The left is going to be in charge of the protestors soon.
>How left wing are they?
I'll post their twelve point demands in my next post.
>How secular are they?
Very. They're just people hating gas price hikes.

based?

Fuck off shay

>>678448
current demands of kazakh protestors:
1. reduction in the price of basic goods
2. reduction of fuel prices
3. lowering the retirement age to 58/60 years
4. resignation of the government
5. release all prisoners arrested during the demonstrations
6. raise in wages for common people
7. abolition of all subsidies for private industries
8. cancelation of recycling (sifting through garbage to find stuff to recycle and sell)
9. cancelation of toll roads
10. raising the basic pension
11. raising child welfare benefits
12. meeting with the president for political demands

>>678452
No you fuck off. Shay did excellent work

>>678257
I will not support russian imperialism that is for sure.

>>678468

Anon, you have no idea how much I want to believe.

Kazakh chads could make Turanic Juche real.

Official statement from a mongolian on central asia's, specifically kazakhstan's, relationship with china uyghurs

Dozens of protesters die yesterday and who knows if not more all according to Kazakhstan police themselves not United States media

The United States secretary of defense response? No condemnation about it call for sanctions or belittling of government instead he shows support for them getting law and order back

https://twitter.com/SecBlinken/status/1479122316617564161?s=20

it's not a proxy conflict. literally every bourgeois state is pivoting behind the kazakh government because they know these protests could happen anywhere now

>>678551
Isn't it a LITTLE suspicious that china claimed that kazakh should handle the conflict on its own, clearly AGAINST the CSTO intervention in kazakhstan?
>>678391

>>678569
that's still support, they still want the government to crush the protests. can you read?

>>678503
What are the chances another leaked videocall, though?

Any videos?

>>678569
only a little. its consistent with their stance on their own internal affairs. they probably made a statement because they see it going their way, if it wasn't they would have been silent.

>>678421
>sinkiang
keep up the posting, but wade-giles is haram

Dr.Shay phd in investigations

Good work

>>678345
More proof that Q is real. The Storm is coming!

>unmarked vans have been passing out weapons to protestors. These unmarked vans are most likely CHINESE.
Why are you spreading unsubstantiated bullshit conspiracy theories? China hardly interferes geopolitically whatsoever, now they're just spamming guns at rebels to a solid trading partner on their border according to you?

Also ISRAHELL is also a Chinese trading partner if you all forgot.

>>678345
I can't tell if posts like that are shitposts or actual schizos.

>>679167
Still as valid as shamelessly listening to radio liberty and russiatoday to denounce the protestors as liberals a day after the protests start.

>>679312
That would explain the tattoos.

>>678257
>Namefag detected
Stop reading right there

>>678257
It's certainly a novel theory, but PRC has adhered to noninterference for quite some time, so unfortunately there is probably no secret Communist plot. Russia probably would complain to ambassadors if that truly were the case. Most likely it's to be an dispute of oligarch factions as is common in many parts of the FSU, unless the Communists there and leftists get their shit in order and transform it towards productive directions.

Kazakhstan builds monuments of Turkestan Legion nazi traitors.
PROOF THAT CHINA SUPPORTS REGIME CHANGE IN KAZAKHSTAN?
https://inter.kke.gr/en/articles/The-authorities-are-historically-rehabilitating-the-Turkestan-Legion-of-the-Wehrmacht-and-the-SS-in-Kazakhstan/

Just you and me Shay.

Grasping at the truth.

>>678257
I don't think, that the protesters have support by the CPC.

>>680810
They oppose color revolution and CSTO intervention. This is because they want to increase the chances of the communist protestors winning, without having to directly interfere.

>>680819
>without having to directly interfere.
What about this >>680591 ?

>>680821
Those volunteers are clearly being sent to kazakhstan to establish lines of communication with the protestors while reassuring the kazakh government that china is on their side. Due to the media and internet blackout, china is being forced to establish direct lines of communication with the communist party and the socialist movement.
Hopefully west turkestan (kazakhstan) embraces their new leadership.

>>680829
Based af
>>680821
Source?

People are clearly misunderstanding what china said. They denounced any possible interference from foreign powers in kazakhstan and denounced color revolutions coopting the protests.
China officially stated that this is an issue that needs to be resolved internally within kazakhstan.
This means that china wants the protestors and kazakh government to resolve their issues WITHOUT CSTO OR CIA INTERVENTION
Fuck everybody weighing in on the kazakh situation who listens to russian and american feds
The real "color revolution" here is people supporting capitalist oligarchs against the legitimate protests of angry proletarians and banned communist parties.

>>680875

Shay did you see the Kagarlitsky video?

His conclusion that the csto intervention may unintentionally spread a revolutionary upsurge into Russia itself has me wanting to believe so fucking hard.

Especially since there has been a huge upsurge in interest in Marxism in Russia in the last few years, which the pension reform and covid accelerated hard.

If this keeps up I might just end up believing all over the place.

>>678400
What is this though? Is there an explanation for this?

>>680875
this uyghur thinks shinawatra is the bad guy and the military cocksuckers are the good guys‽
what dengism does to a mf

>>680875
>thinking the Turkish coup was anything other than a false flag by Erdog to solidify power
yikes

>>681131
As a dengist, i think it's pretty clear that the chinese government is behind the kazakh protests.

>>681166
>As a dengist, i think
now there's a big fat lie

How come no one in thread has proposed the hypothesis of Turkish involvement as certain sources seem to imply?

>>681284
this thread is awful and makes us look like /pol/ tier morons to lurkers. no idea why it's still up

>>681284
>as certain sources seem to imply

Post your sources. Guarantee it's a RT shill.

>>681294
No real leftypoler cares about “our” image. You must be new.

>>681294
Shay spends a shitton of time on matrix with the mods so they tolerate his schizophrenia even though everything speculated ITT by him was debunked by the last 20 hours of happening (as anyone could have easily predicted when this thread and the kazakh habbedings started).

>>681319
What has been debunked. Be specific

>>681324
If China is doing it. It must be extremely covert

>>681336
(((China))) is Xilluminati confirmed.

>>681319
>dumb namefag being an idiot and then getting proven wrong by reality is a conspiracy theory
555-COME-ON-NOW

>>681339
point taken

>>>/siberia/ tho

>>681345
true

>>681319

Are we not allowed to have any fun anymore?

>>681319
if being wrong was a bannable offense then like 3/4ths of the board would disappear overnight. that I imagine everyone has their own idea of what 3/4ths would go only illustrates the point further.

For some reason I thought the news was about Kyrgyzstan. Kazakhstan has the cosmodrome, Russia will not let it go, this is Sevastopol level critical importance, and globally too because NASA discontinued launches.