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 No.679929

I'm neither a nazi (pol) or a communist (leftypol).

However, I do respect the fact that this board does not regurgitate ad-hominems and immature tropes like /pol/ does. I actually see genuine discussion about politics and no keyboard warriors.

 No.679931

>>679929
Cheers for the compliment. Though I do think 'live and let live' when it comes to politics is a bit misguided considering the severe consequences it can have.

You wanna talk about your politics or just chill?

 No.679934

You just haven’t been here long enouh

 No.679938

>>679931
>You wanna talk about your politics or just chill?
I'm practically the guy in the OP pic, although I'm much younger.

When it comes to politics, I'm interested in the different sides of politics and ideas people have. But I never really formed my own political stance. Rather I always viewed politics from a neutral observer's perspective.

 No.679939

>>679929
t. CIA glowie sent to shill at me personally

 No.679941

>>679939

junko, your nose is fat as fuck.

 No.679942

>>679941
not really honestly

 No.679944

>>679929
Why aren't you a communist yet? Have you read Capital yet? It's the only rational political endpoint.

 No.679945

Welcome, anon, and plz lurk moar, and ask honest questions (instead of pretending that your pre-made scemas are eternal truth.)

 No.680001

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OP look out for grillpilled schizo. they're a cool guy

 No.680019

>>679941
How would you know?

 No.680021

>>679934
Aren't you german?

 No.680026

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OH GOD OH GOD I'M GONNA GRILL

 No.680041

>>680026
aaaaah im griiilling

 No.680079

Ur a retard and should not post on this board, liberal bitch made fuck boy.

 No.680090

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 No.680127

>>680090
But Dante placed the centrists OUTSIDE of hell.

 No.680713

>>680079
I'm not a liberal.

 No.680729

>>679929
Grilling with friends is my #1 go to activity. I am a communist because capitalism makes it much worse in so many ways.
I unironically just want to grill and have some beers with friends, listening to music and talking. But work sucks, public transportation sucks, everything is very expensive, public spaces are being reduced dramatically (can't grill anywhere except your own backyard assuming you have one).

Once you start getting into your 30s grilling is harder. Everyone's busy with bullshit. If you peel back the veil, you'll find out that the reason you can't grill in peace is because of capitalism.

Under communism, there will be state-provided state of the art grills and equipment in parks dedicated to grilling. No need to even buy shit. Meat, charcoal/gas, aluminum foil, beers, smoking pellets, all available at the People's Grill Park Repository, right on premises.

 No.680758

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>>679929
I think people who have been on forums for a long time know that letting Nazis in (other than a single pet Nazi to shoot spitballs at) is like opening up a big ol' deadly can of poison that will eventually destroy your website. That's when a culture of nihilism eventually turns into *active* nihilism. This isn't even a strictly political judgement. The same goes for true schizos and outright lunatics.

Also, confusing a web forum for real life. They intersect but they're not the same thing. So going on crusades or trying to meme yourself into real life is a dangerous trap that becomes unmoored. You fall in love with your own memes and then eventually it all collapses in on itself. And you have to accept there are certain limitations to this format, so to make the most of it, it's best to aim for it be (a) fun and (b) mildly informative.

Also arguing with people is kind of pointless.

>The only way to decisively defeat an argument is to let its own inner tendencies defeat it. A comprehensive refutation requires that each and every attack be shown to ultimately redound to the attacker’s detriment. Once an idea’s come up against its own limits, been hoisted by its own petard, that’s a blow it can’t recover from, one that’s stamped on its face forever. Public exposure of its inherent shortcomings guarantees it can’t recover from the defeat to resume its former role — the flaws that caused its downfall will only bring it to ruin over and over again, confirming the original judgment.

>This technique is known as immanent critique. My claim is that immanent critique and the dialectical method are one and the same. Both are based on letting [lassen] the object of study testify on its own behalf just long enough to indict itself and transform into its putative other. The calm poise with which the dialectician squares off against any given adversary derives from her faith in “the universal irony of the world,” the certainty that no attack is entirely one with itself. The dialectical approach, in general, is to meet hard with soft, to be presuppositionless, like clear water, and to let reality (the force of an attack) be its own undoing.
https://redsails.org/on-dialectics/

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>>680729

 No.680763

>>680760
Communism is the state affairs that brings about access to grilling to one's hearts content!

 No.680772

>>679929
>I actually see genuine discussion about politics and no keyboard warriors.
you just aren't here long enough, lmao

 No.680902

>>679942
post nose

 No.680904

>>680729
>Under communism, there will be state-provided state of the art grills and equipment in parks dedicated to grilling.
Interesting you should mention this. In China I was invited to a BBQ.
This confused me because although housing with yards exist in the countryside, in cities everyone lives in blocks, and suburbs hardly exist.
Where would this BBQ possibly take place? At the public grills in the park of course.
It was a good time. Chinese like to slice their beef pretty thin however. There was no brisket and ribs doused with SWEET BABY RAY'S original barbecue sauce.

 No.680914

>>679929
Go to /edu/ and do the reading. Or lurk here. You’ll learn a bit. Hell, read the welcome posts stickied

 No.680919

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>>679929
Are you petit bourgeois or financially comfortable? It's mostly the uneducated and liberals who are fine with the status quo.

 No.680934

>>680904
Fuckkk that sounds amazing. In Berlin, parks have grilling areas, but there aren't any public grills per se. China truly is on the right path.

 No.680936

>>679929
Go to /edu/ and do the reading. Or lurk here. You’ll learn a bit. Hell, read the welcome posts stickied

 No.680938

Cool.

Hope to see you at our door, rather than the fascists, when life gets bad for you. Our solution of "rational economic planning" and "stopping a small group from stealing all your wages" is a whole lot more effective than "kill the Jews" or "wage a genocidal war that will also kill you in the fighting and leave the country in rubble"

 No.680945

>>680919
Nah that's not true. There is a significant trend of worker abstention in electoral contests and other bourgeois consultation exercises.
It's hard to care about which porky representative will fuck you over when you're just trying to make rent. It's not so much neutrality as it is "fuck I can't change anything so I'll just drop out".

 No.680955

>>680934
But but china funded wahhabists in Afghanistan to fight against muh gerontrocratic soviet union which was flawless and perfect!!!11 CHINA BAD FUCK CHINA CHING CHANG

 No.680962

>>680955
Unironically

 No.680970

>>680934
You need to grill to have the protein to keep up with the dancing grannies.

 No.680974

>>680955
China is capitalist

 No.680982

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>>680962
>Unironically

 No.681077

>>680090
Grill pill isn't about neutrality. It's just another way of saying 'touch grass'

 No.681079

>>681077
in your mind

 No.681082

>>681077
Wrong, it's about meat fibers.

 No.681651

>>679929
Thanks for your compliment! We'll try our best to keep this up.

 No.681662

Same here OP.
I've been here since 2015 too, the gommies haven't swayed me to their side fully but I'd rather discuss and deb8 with the people here.

 No.681668

>>679929
>I do respect the fact that this board does not regurgitate ad-hominems
?

 No.681802

>>681668
'dengoid' is not an ad-hominem, dengoid

 No.682071

>>680758
based grinch

 No.682122

>>680090
Dante was a catholic though…

 No.685116

OP here, I'm open for any questions.

 No.685329

I'm the same as OP except I've done some reading on Marx + Communism and plan on reading more, just haven't gotten around to it. Also am currently reading The Condition of the Working Class in England in 1844.

Obviously you guys don't need it but I'm sympathetic to the ideology as almost everyone I know who I've talked to about politics legit shits on communism for NO reason. And when they give a reason it makes no sense. I was talking to someone about the situation in Kazakhstan and they laughed at how "communism is so good" and I have no idea why.

 No.685332

>>685116
Ok, what makes you not want to call yourself a socialist?

 No.685448

>>685332
I'm not a socialist because I don't believe in any current economic system as a be-all and end-all. In general I don't like to label myself with an economic side or political "team" such that it portrays this issue as a black and white situation.

There are positive aspects such as its aim to reduce inequality, prevent worker exploitation, and promote common good rather than one's selfish needs. However, it also demotivates entreprenurial spirit, creates dependance on monetary welfare, and excess labour market regulation could lead to lower employment.

 No.685512

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>>685448
>spirit

 No.685552

>>685448
I give it two years before you become a communist

 No.685559

>>685448
Cool. It's nice that you keep an open mind. Consider saving your post somewhere and read it again in a couple of months or a year to see if your opinion has changed. I think it will, as long as you keep curious and keep investigating further.

 No.688493

>>685559
Will do.

 No.688495

>>681802
>my pasty cracker ass knows better than the tens of millions of people in the CPC

 No.688563

>>688495
>uses ad-hominem against anon for using an alleged ad-hominem
Pottery.


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