Belt & Road encircles Latin America and the Caribbean Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 08:30:02 No. 681401 [Last 50 Posts]
>Political and Security Cooperation In 10 years: no more USA backed coups possible in LatAm
In 20 years: drug mafia eradicated
>Trade and Investment >Finance >Agriculture and Food In 20 years: no more hunger in LatAm
>Science and Technology Innovation >Industry and Information Technology In 5 years: LatAm fully covered in high speed 6G (schizos will be seething)
>Aviation and Aerospace In 10 years: first LatAm countries to launch their own satellites
>Energy and Resources In 10 years: no more electricity outages in the region
>Tourism >Customs and Taxes Already: China lifting tariffs worldwide on the most impoverished countries to strengthen their economies
>Infrastructures in the Area of Quality >High-Quality Infrastructure Cooperation In 5 years: new roads, bridges
In 20 years: railroad connected every mainland country in LatAm
>Public Health In 20 years: Cuba-tier healthcare in LatAm for countries in LatAm who don't pork out
>Sustainable Development and Eradication of Poverty In 20 years: no more slums, favelas, ghettos, new public housing projects, 100-250 million LatAms elevated from poverty
>Culture, Art and Sports In 10 years: Hollywood dominance ends in the region, Chinese Netflix-alternative is leading the region, LatAm has its own Bollywood,
Jodorowsky's Dune gets made posthumous >Higher Education, Think Tanks and Young People In 10 years: No more burger NGOs, sorry.
>Media and Communications In 5 years: Telesur will get shitton of funding, we will finally have a competent, socialist-backed, multi-language speaking reporting that we deserve, burger commies will no longer have to "yes daddy" to RT.com
>Local and Community Exchanges In 20 years: a more communal, collectivist LatAm
>Sustainable Development Everything listed above? Will be done the greenest way we know how.
>International Affairs and Subregional and Interregional Cooperation In 20 years: South American union, African union
My predictions based on:
https://menafn.com/1103506266/Belt-Road-encircles-Latin-America-and-the-Caribbean Rejoice, doomer faggots, for the worst is over.
The Chinese century is humanity's century. Say it with me:
CHINA, YES! Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 08:50:20 No. 681426
Tbh China financing the Pink Tide kind of snuck under the radar of the US. Instead of targeting China they targeted the socdem governments of LatAm to replace with their stooges.
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 09:19:46 No. 681465
>>681401 What are you on about?
The article you linked is just saying that China is making economic partnerships in South America and Cuba.
>>681426 >Tbh China financing the Pink Tide kind of snuck under the radar of the US. China is not supporting social democrat policy in any way. Actually Cuba would be a better example of supporting sucdem govenments in the Americas. If anything China will want neoliberal regimes that allow it to siphon off wealth and material efficiently
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 09:39:53 No. 681485
>>681465 >What are you on about? >The article you linked is just saying that China is making economic partnerships in South America and Cuba. It's just another instance of wumao shilling on /leftypol/
>>681426 >I wouldn't rule out the US trying to go full fascist again with wannabe Pinochets all over the place in a second attempt to secure the region And neo-imperialist China will fund them too again, just like last time
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 09:51:45 No. 681491
>>681426 >I wouldn't rule out the US trying to go full fascist again with wannabe Pinochets all over the place in a second attempt to secure the region (since rightoid political leaders tend to blow up the economy and increase poverty and anger since they have no real economic strategy besides becoming debt colonies of the US lmao which means eternal socdem governance in the region is almost guaranteed at this point). This, 1000%. Being a rightwinger in the context of LatAm is synonymous at this point with "wanting to become a slave to the US with literally no benefits to wider society, just the 1% of comprador bourgeoisie getting some gibs from Uncle Sam."
Meanwhile, if you are even slightly leftie, China will develop the shit out of you, build you schools, ports, railroads, whatever.
I expect great things to come from the continent. A great leftwing tide is going to happen in LatAm.
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 09:54:45 No. 681493
>>681465 >China will want neoliberal regimes that allow it to siphon off wealth and material efficiently Anglo, projecting. Meanwhile, in reality, responses to Chinese development projects, aid, debt forgiveness, etc. in Africa and LatAm are immensely popular.
>>681485 >wumao Stay irrelevant and pessimistic. Nobody needs you. The world is moving on with or without you.
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 11:10:32 No. 681554
>>681493 Different anon but I am an optimist and I sure as fuck don't trust capitalist China
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 11:12:13 No. 681555
>>681554 There really is reason to be (cautiously) optimistic about the future of LatAm and leftism in there.
That said half the posts ITT sound deranged.
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 11:29:11 No. 681566
>>681465 >>681485 glow harder Langley shills.
All Pink Tide leaders have taken up Chinese financing because unlike the IMF and World Bank they don't demand any additional terms that involve getting assraped by a neolib structural adjustment programme. I won't defend Mautist foreign policy during the 20th century but China has played a hugely constructive role in LatAm since the start of the century.
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 11:39:09 No. 681573
>>681401 great thread with good energy, thanks anon
>>681554 >I sure as fuck don't trust capitalist China Chinese capitalists aren't really a big factor, most of the big ticket items in foreign markets are done by state controlled SOEs. Private porkies have to be on the good side of the CPC to be allowed to play. The CPC does prefer socdems over neoliberals, because less tortured population = more stable environment for long term investment.
>>681555 >There really is reason to be (cautiously) optimistic Yup, sounds about right, one worry though is how Latin America will develop on the high tech side, are they going to be allowed to develop tech autonomy.
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 22:56:26 No. 682369
>>682365 Why would she be a good source*
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 23:02:24 No. 682376
>>682371 Are you just trolling by posting this woman or do you really watch her videos. This is her website from YouTube video you linked
I was born and raised in communist China. When the Tiananmen Square massacre happened, I was a college student in America. Watching CBS, CNN, and various American media covering the event, I was greatly moved by American journalists’ courage in supporting Chinese people’s fight for freedom.
I had never imagined that America would one day be plagued by censorship and misinformation. In 2020, when the world succumbed to a virus from China and fell into darkness, I decided to start Lei’s Real Talk.
With my Chinese background and experience with censorship, media, and totalitarian government, I offer a fresh perspective in analyzing and interpreting world political and economic events. I believe that wisdom favors the kind, and courage befalls the selfless. Those values have guided me through each step in making these videos.
https://leisrealtalk.com/about-lei/ Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 23:08:34 No. 682381
>>681401 Uhhh
If you’ve been paying attention to Haiti you’d know China has been making trade deals with the entirety of South America for decades. The problem is removing the immediate us presence in Latam not chinese expansion
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 23:18:32 No. 682387
>>681493 >Anglo I’m pretty sure you’re the one projecting here. The majority of wumao are extreme white bread self hating Americans. Just like the last time you fuckers say that China won’t care because wumaos are literally in the back of the bus attention wise to China. Senpai won’t notice you, especially you’re not as easily to control like the Pinochet type.
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 23:32:32 No. 682395
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:19:01 No. 682541
>>681566 >Mautist You mean dengist
>20th century You mean right now
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:25:41 No. 682545
>>682541 It was Mao who came up with Three Worlds Theory you historical illiterate.
>Right now No, right now they're helping basically every single left wing government in LatAm you fucking disingenuous American.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:32:33 No. 682550
>>682435 Work on your reading comprehension, that was not a defense of kissinger.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:36:08 No. 682552
>>681401 Unironically I imagine Yanks mass migrating to get healthcare and what not
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:38:02 No. 682554
>>682545 So deng changed the economy but couldn’t possibly have not backed the mujihadeen in Afghanistan. Uh… k. It’s actually Mao who is building the port at Haifa. Shut up
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:43:31 No. 682560
>>681485 >wumao Go back
>>682387 mucho texto, anglo
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:45:49 No. 682564
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:48:28 No. 682567
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:50:45 No. 682574
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:52:05 No. 682577
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:54:15 No. 682582
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:54:40 No. 682584
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:54:50 No. 682585
>>682577 For example this bill was passed by vote of 428-1 (only guy against is a libertarian dude for other reasons)
The only things the usa seems to be at this level of bipartisanship on is giving weapon aid to Israel by votes like this and condemning china
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/house-tees-vote-bill-targeting-china-over-uyghur-treatment-after-n1285956 Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 02:58:47 No. 682594
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 03:01:35 No. 682601
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 03:05:47 No. 682610
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 03:06:48 No. 682611
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 03:10:05 No. 682618
>>682611 That anon is a child or has a child's level of logic.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 03:15:09 No. 682622
>>682579 >>682589
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 03:17:01 No. 682625
>>682622 Maybe it's not 4am for him.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 03:23:49 No. 682634
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 03:24:54 No. 682636
>>682634 Why would anyone see chinas medical advances and helping out other nations being praised as a negative?*
Fixed statement
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 03:28:09 No. 682639
>>682620 hell, he'd do it for free
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 03:35:18 No. 682646
>>682639 Get real he we definitely be paying to do that
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 05:41:55 No. 682774
>>682371 >>682562 >>682597 >>682620 >>682645 >>682766
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 05:59:23 No. 682800
>>682782 >Getting endorsed by the CCP means you are le contributing to le communism
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 06:04:20 No. 682807
>>682775 >implying you can make "superprofits" from agrobusiness in a developing country retarded beyond measure.
every industrialized state resorts to protectionism to safeguard their agricultural industries meaning that they are actually net LOSING money to prop up the industry. the fact that you think you can make "superprofits" off fucking food production is hilarious. It's low-skill low profit business.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 06:07:18 No. 682810
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 06:07:32 No. 682811
>>682808 >capitaloids = legit coms
sage sage 2022-01-09 (Sun) 06:13:05 No. 682823
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 06:14:55 No. 682828
>>682807 >implying you can make "superprofits" from agrobusiness in a developing country Are you ok??? I feel like Nazi Germany and America committing genocides for wheat and land should be something considered basic historical fact.
Anyways, here's a passage from a soviet encyclopedia
>Superprofits may also result from the exploitation of the working people at nonmonopolistic enterprises and in economically backward countries which are characterized by low wages and a longer workday. In addition, such profits are promoted by the establishment of monopolistic prices, at which monopoly capital sells its commodities (machinery and equipment) to agricultural enterprises, purchasing agricultural products at low prices. As a result, the industrial monopolies receive not only a portion of the profits of the capitalists in agriculture but also the surplus product of small-scale commodity producers who do not exploit alien labor. A system of low prices for raw materials and agricultural products is widely used to fleece the economically underdeveloped countries this is what the Gates foundation has been doing in Africa with monocrops, and on top of that, it's exactly what China is imitating in South America.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 06:20:17 No. 682842
>>682828 America and Germany committed those crimes for land not specifically wheat or agricultural products. Germany, in particular, was after oil as well.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 06:20:35 No. 682844
>>682823 tbh I think maybe USSR should have nuked the West so that we wouldn't have to deal with ignorant larpers like that guy
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 06:21:49 No. 682847
>>682836 Trump bros… How can Trump do this to us!
Do we have to support Vietnam communist party now? I can't do this bros
sage sage 2022-01-09 (Sun) 06:31:10 No. 682863
>>682828 Actually no because all left-wing socdem LatAm leaders have placed emphasis on food sovereignty and development through co-operatives and government regulation of the sector. Kirchner, Evo Morales, Correa, Chavez, and Maduro all did this in varying degrees. Kirchner (Argentina) even placed taxes on crop exports which is odd as that's not usually something you want to do in a period of limited inflation and expanding capacity.
China buying food from regulated sectors via fair trade is not "imperialism" nor are there any "super profits" to be found. Furthermore food is not the key commodity that China wants to trade for via LatAm but energy resources and minerals which are also heavily controlled by socdem governments.
The fact that you are jumping from topic to topic throwing out bullshit with no understanding of the terms just to see what you can stick on a wall proves you're a troll.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 06:55:28 No. 682902
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Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 06:59:07 No. 682907
>>682852 Did Stalin ever sit next to Churchill?
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:00:20 No. 682909
>>682907 Too bad it was a joke.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:02:15 No. 682911
>>682907 Fuck ur mother, kys. just joking xD
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:10:29 No. 682918
>>682907 Stalin was such a cheeky fucker lmao
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:11:29 No. 682919
>>682863 >LatAm leaders have placed emphasis on food sovereignty The LatAm social democratic vision of food sovereignty is the freedom to form capitalist industry of export. This would be of course fairly obvious to you if you had actually took a look at the hundreds of millions of dollars in agricultural product each of the countries you listed exports each year. Remember when Evo Morales said he wants to become an exporting power of electricity? I do.
As for cooperatives and government run business, they are still subject to the whims of the market. We all know about the commodity form and the lack of central planning taking place in these "market socialist" governments, with most of these governments openly rejecting Marxism-Leninism. Regulations do not in any way change the laws of expansion by monopoly that constitute imperialism. Venezuelan cooperatives have been supported by the state, are subject to the markets whims, and have bulldozed traditional ways of small farming.
Imagine thinking that Chinese mines that have actually devastated Latin American peasants surrounding ecosystems and further enveloped the nations of Latin America in economic servitude aren't imperialist because of some bureaucratic capitalists in power. Delusional and Bolivia has already exported more soy based product in 2019 then they have in Zinc.
also
>Kirchner >low inflation I'm done writing paragraphs about imperialist Chinese agricultural policy now. Sage, you keep on denying the Chinese support of monocrop production in South America because you listen to TrueAnon and think Hugo Chavez was a communist because he said Bush did 9/11.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:14:28 No. 682924
larping is when you criticize China. Being a communist is when you read The Governance of China by Xi Jinping and become Shanghai's resident sexpat.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:19:23 No. 682925
>>682924 larping is when you criticize socialist countries because they swim in the shit of reality instead remaining just an idea. usually done by westoids ignorant on what it means to be a periphery.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:23:47 No. 682931
>>682919 Lol did a committee write this or maybe gpt-3 bot? Fucking word salad.
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:24:01 No. 682932
>>681426 I hope left wing latamericans are arming themselves in anticipation this time. I'll tell you this they probably have their eyes on Mexico. That's on our border…
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:28:33 No. 682938
AES uyghas be like: 🇨🇺🇨🇳🇰🇵🇸🇾🇳🇵🇱🇦🇻🇳🇻🇪🇰🇭 🇪🇨🇬🇼🇪🇬🇵🇱🇧🇫🇷🇺🇦🇱🇲🇲🇷🇸 There is no contradiction in believing these are all socialist now or were at one point👍
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:29:16 No. 682940
>>682931 the deng can't read
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:34:55 No. 682942
>>681401 >20 years: drug mafia eradicated This is impossible since both sides of the political spectrum in LATAM are involved in the trade, for example MAS-IPSP literally came from a COCOA grower's union, meaning Bolivia is and always will be a narco state. This is without getting into FARC and ELN bith of which are guilty of profiting off the trade even as they try harm reduction.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:40:24 No. 682947
>>682944 It's literally the first step, it'd be like saying "no officer, I'm not in the heroin trade, I only grow opium"
sage sage 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:41:07 No. 682949
>>682919 lol you can see the bot have a schizo break down in real time.
it thinks lithium based off the youtube video was a reference to export of electricity what a joke. Langley is not sending their best.
what the fuck is true anon lmao
damn these bots suck. literal schizo nonsense jumping from topic to topic because any time you want them to go deeper they can't since they'll be outed as a retard so they just switch topics.
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:42:26 No. 682950
>>682907 Sounds like a good plan
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:44:02 No. 682951
>>682949 Clearly not a chan user either.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:49:43 No. 682955
>>682919 Hugo Chávez was cool you fucking nerd lmao. He didn’t even claim that venezuela was communist, he outright said that venezuela needed to move into socialism soon>>682919
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:52:05 No. 682957
>>682942 coca is legally sold in Bolivia and it’s primarily farmed by indigenous workers who have been fighting to take it back from cartels lmao
sage sage 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:54:14 No. 682960
>>682955 >>682957 Don't feed the bot it's not a real person. Don't allow it the pleasure of (yous) it's probably given new algorithms based on how many replies it can get per post. Best method of engagement is to keep it permanently retarded by not giving attention since the last thing we need is a smart glowie bot running amok.
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 07:57:49 No. 682963
>>682957 It's also an addictive drug even before it's refined into cocaine
>>682960 I'm not a bot, nor am I suggesting Evo is a bad politician or that Bolivia is le narcostate, but you aren't going to get rid of the illegal drug trade until Americans go through a Maoist style mass detox, which isn't a realistic prospect
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 11:00:17 No. 683146
>>681566 Based fact haver.
>>682541 Coping anglo
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 11:03:16 No. 683149
>>682347 >20 yrs <usa still exists Nah
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 11:12:29 No. 683159
>>682907 >just joking, bro Stalin had balls of steel
Balls of steel
Ba-ba-balls of steel
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 11:16:34 No. 683165
>>682947 cocoa -> copium -> cocaine
t. Chemistry PhD
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 12:16:38 No. 683222
>>683165 Leftypol is the place where the the big minds of the century collision
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 14:42:29 No. 683349
>>683256 >anime pfp Didnt read post
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 15:03:00 No. 683370
>>683146 looks like he didn't have answer to these facts tho,
>>682554 opinions, had
Anonymous 2022-01-09 (Sun) 15:04:22 No. 683373
>>683256 >I have still a doomer mentality 'yes'
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