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 No.683236

Communism isn't bad, it just doesn't work.

Given that context, lets do the same exercise.
Humans are self centered by nature. The self centered nature of humans causes issues with creating civilization. Human civilization requires cooperation between humans, coerced or otherwise. Communism is an ideology that ensures common ownership (no one owns anything). The communist ideology ensures cooperation by the fact that everyone contributes to society. Therefore communism can theoretically build a functioning civilization.

No good or bad arguments. Though, if you actually implement it, it just doesn't work since no common ownership usually means the government owns it. Which is essentially going to fuck everyone over since the government is run by humans who are themselves self centered.(my man is straight reddit posting over here)

 No.683239

Die faggot

 No.683242

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Plejanov deserve it

 No.683246

>>683236
Is that from motherfucking muramasa? Garbage libshit.

 No.683251

>Humans are self centered by nature.
<But somehow not wanting communism so that the entire society serves your self interests
Bad bait. Read Stirner and get rid of all your spooks. It is in our selfish nature to need communism because by then you can develop yourself using the full force of society while not worrying about materialistic needs.

 No.683253

>human nature
>common ownership (no one owns anything)
>>>/reddit/
Sage goes in all fields

 No.683254

>>683236
>Communism is an ideology that ensures common ownership (no one owns anything).

Bullshit, everyone owning everything means everyone owns everything. In your family you all have similar levels of respect for your family property, even if ownership isn't defined clearly. Communism is this familial ownership spread across entire society.

Rest of your post can be thrown out the window after this.

 No.683258

Did my guy just put in a screencap of a fucking japanese fap game as an own LMAO

 No.683262

>>683258
It's the latest philosophical masterpiece, muramasa. Most weebs are now using arguments from this.

 No.683267

>>683258
Just cause it's a Japanese work doesn't mean it is automatically wrong, racist.

 No.683270

>>683236
> means the government owns it. Which is essentially going to fuck everyone over since the government is run by humans who are themselves self centered.

And the solution to that is to have a system where being self-centred is rewarded? That’s like saying it’s human nature to take a violent response to conflict because that’s what cavemen did, therefore murder should not just be legal, but encouraged as a way to solve societal problems.

Some people can be self-centred to an unhealthy degree, and some of those people might try to join the government in order to be corrupt, communism makes this illegal and discourages it. Unlike the corrupt politicians under capitalism, corrupt communist politicians needed to be very subtle with it and in the end did not have much more than legitimate citizens. Under capitalism many conflicts of interests are not considered corrupt because it’s considered “unfair” to stop politicians from being industrious or entrepreneurial when that’s what capitalism is about, as a result politicians are some of the richest members in capitalist society.

There is also common ownership under capitalism as well, you own your house but not necessarily the land underneath it and you’re expected to pay taxes on anything you possess or buy that would imply an increase in wealth. If I pay 20% income tax, then the government has a 20% ownership of my wage which they invest in themselves or individuals who are lobbying them. Once again this imagined communist dystopia is actually just present day capitalism

 No.683271

Why are these "it just doesn't work" objections always so fucking DUMB
Like we never get to talk about centralization vs. federalism, the difficulties of incentivizing efficient or unpleasant work, hierarchies, the merits of labor credits and the inadequacies of simple production in kind, you know, the ACTUAL issues that might be had with a post-capitalist system.

But no, it's always some bait thread going "well actually humans are just inherently retarded, so THERE"

 No.683274

>>683271
>But no, it's always some bait thread going "well actually humans are just inherently retarded, so THERE"

Because the people making the bait threads are retarded, they can't actually explain how communism theoretically works to even start debating it, so they just claim it won't work in a practical sense because they've projected the same retardedness on everyone else, sidestepping the theoretic debate entirely.

 No.683277

>>683267
No, but it also happens to be wrong as well as a retarded fap game

 No.683279

>>683277
There's literally 0.1% porn in it.

 No.683280

>>683279
So there IS porn in it?

 No.683285

>>683270
>And the solution to that is to have a system where being self-centred is rewarded?
The solution to that is the law of balance shown in this visual novel. If person A kills person B then kill person A's loved one to make him understand why killing is bad.

 No.683286

>pic related
Jesus Christ. Is there any Japanese media about politics that ISN'T retarded libshit?
>wow there were socialists who disagreed with Plekhanov communism BTFO
Yeah almost like socialists aren't a hivemind or something.

 No.683295

You'd make an excellent christmas ornament OP!

 No.683302

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 No.683319

>>683236
>Communism isn't bad, it just doesn't work.
Kill yourself fuckwad

 No.683323

>>683262
I wonder why there aren't politically and philosophically sophisticated porn games. I guess the people who read that sort of thing are too busy jerking themselves off intellectually to write porn.

 No.683327

>>683323
There are eroge like that, but intellectual stimulation is at odds with cumming. More blood for the brain means less blood for the dick and vice versa. Sure you can add erotic elements that serve the work, but eroticism -//- pornography.

 No.683336

>>683327
>I want to be subject to your dicktatorship
>Whispered the bicycle factory to the proletariat softly

 No.683465

>>683327
>>683323
Almost all eroge try to be apolitical. Even heavily philosophical ones like subahibi deal with issues apolitically and hence come off as individual self-help. Nips are just not interested in politics.

 No.685875

>>683465
>Nips are just not interested in politics.
What about OP's game?


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