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 No.684624

A right winger told me that Stalin took out trotsky because he didn't want the soviet union being run by a jew and that stalins non jewish faction was against trotsky's jewish faction for leadership of the soviet union. the ethnic russians were very against jews running the soviet union


Also which one do you like better and why?

 No.684625

>>684624
Stalin was the greatest Trotskyist to have ever lived

The LTV has been declared as false as it fails to account for demand vs supply and rests on the belief that any real world object will always be consumed or used, an example a pile of mud has the same worth as a cure for Alzheimer’s simply because the production methods to produce mud piles needed heavy machinery.

 No.684627

>>684624
stalin was georgian and the world doesn't revolve around human vs orcs.

 No.684645

It's true.

 No.684648

No you retard. Read a book, the "factions" weren't even split up by "Jewish" and "non-Jewish" in any notable way outside of Trotsky himself being such.

 No.684653

A right winger told me that OP is gay

 No.684656

>>684625
>Stalin was the greatest Trotskyist to have ever lived
kek this is pretty funny because it's also very true
<Oversaw the collectivization campaign that Trotsky pushed for but never implemented
<Expanded the revolution far past Russian borders and led the USSR to the height of its territorial peak
<Crushed the Fascist governments and societies that Trotsky's Popular Fronts failed to stop
<Eliminated all internal dissent and bourgeois elements far more thoroughly than Trotsky did during the Kronstadt rebellion

 No.684658

>National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.
<t. Stalin

 No.684702

>>684658
Lol typical communist says one thing in writing then goes and does the complete opposite you do know stalin instigated anti jewish pogroms lol

 No.684703

What categorizes a trotskyist over a normal communist????

 No.684712

>>684703
Not liking the Soviet Union after Trotsky got booted
Permitting very decentralized parties
Permanent revolution after a revolutionary party takes control
Yet in the meanwhile promoting entryism and working with social democrats to enact change

 No.684714

>>684702
>Lol typical communist says one thing in writing then goes and does the complete opposite you do know stalin instigated anti jewish pogroms lol
Who are you to talk when you killed 10x ass many Jews as Stalin?

 No.684717

>>684702
I instigated a pogrom against your mother for birthing your uyghurfaggot ass.

 No.684749

>>684714
I am jewish you putz

 No.684797

>>684702
>you do know stalin instigated anti jewish pogroms lol
Literally zero proof for this.

 No.684798

>>684797
>Literally zero proof for this.
He's Jewish:
>>684749

 No.684802

>>684798
Lol and?

 No.684812

>>684798
>Hi yall, I feel like I have the correct identity to speak on this, standpoint theory and all
ok and?

 No.684818

>>684624
Trotskyism appeals to petty bourgoids (merchant class) therefore Jews will tend towards it.

 No.684822

>>684624
Trotsky was killed by a trotskyist after Trotsky flirted with his wife. Disillusionment with Trotsky was very real in that one. Meanwhile, stalinists (or adjacents) in Mexico, being the refugees from Spain, mostly, at the time didn't even bother to shoot Trotsky, they merely shot in the air to scare the fucker for basically sabotaging the Revolution in Spain.

 No.684825

>>684624
then explain why and how he forgot to purge Lazar KAGANovich

 No.684833

>>684749
Post nose

 No.684834

>>684702
nah he did the opposite of that

 No.684843

>>684825
Iron Lazar! That guy was not someone to mess around with. And he was a Jew.

 No.684889

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 No.684905

>>684658
t. The retard who killed Latinisation

 No.684906

>>684905
why latin? cyrillic is perfectly fine and cognate with it through greek anyways

 No.684948

>>684905
Latinisation makes it so you write the same word but with more letters in it.

 No.685046

>>684625
>Stalin was the greatest Trotskyist to have ever lived
You joke, but one of Stalin's only possesions found after his death was a heavily annotated copy of Trotsky's "Terrorism and Communism"

 No.685049

>>685046
collectivization was also trotsky's idea

 No.685051

>>684624
>A right winger told me
That was your first mistake tbh

 No.685053

>>685049
Not really. Trot pushed for "collectivization" when USSR had no ability to properly implement it and criticized it when it was actually being implemented. Just like with planned economy. Saying something like that just shows that you posess almost no knowledge about what was going on in USSR at that time.

 No.685089

>>684905
Cyrillic>Latin Alphabet. I will die on this hill

 No.685103

>>684906
Most major languages save for Arabic and Chinese use Latin. So it's an added bonus for those people who have already knew the Latin script.

 No.685109

>>684624
Stalin should have converted
make Judeo-Bolshevism real

 No.685119

>>685103
It's not necessarily a bonus, since the actual phonems behind latin letters differ from one language top another quite singnificantly. In my experience it is more convenient to learn two different sets of alphabets each with it's own set of phonems than learn several different phonems related to a single alphabet. Definitely less confusing. Also much easier to "switch" between languages in your mind when reading and writing.

 No.685424

>Comrade Bazhanov, what is the difference between Stalin and Moses? Moses brought the Jews out of Egypt, and Stalin from the Politburo
-Karl Radek according to Bazhanov

There is no evidence that anti semitism played a role in the pre war purge. After all this famous quote about antisemites

>"They don't deserve punishment, THEY DESERVE GUNISHMENT In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty."


that is all over the internet, comes from the time when all the trotskyites were already purged from the party (1931).

< the ethnic russians were very against jews running the soviet union

it's true that there was still a lot of antisemitism, especially in the rural areas, but I doubt this was somehow connected to the official state politics.
This might be true about the hysteria after the so called "Doctor's plot" was uncovered, when antisemites were spreading rumors that le kikez are puting poison in vaccines or in cotton, so many people stopped visiting drugstores and refused to get vaxxed. But still, this was related to the official policies only indirectly.

 No.685427

Schizo thread

 No.685437

>>684624
No. It's just the usual shit for brains antisemitism and trying to portray Stalin as something other than a revolutionary communist, Bolshevik (unlike Trotsky who jumped on the bandwagon in mid 1917) and staunch opponent of antisemitism.

Stalin put more antisemites in the ground than anyone else.

 No.685464

>which one do you like better and why
Comrade Stalin any day

 No.685521

>>684825

Based and actually existing Judeo-Bolshevik pilled.

 No.685529

>>685424
>Two Jews in Moscow read newspapers. One of them says to the other: “Abram Osipovich, some Bryukhanov has been appointed as People's Commissar of Finances. What's his real name? " Abram Osipovich replies: "Well, that's his real name - Bryukhanov." "What?! - exclaims the first. His real name is Bryukhanov? So he is Russian? " - "Well, yes, Russian." “Oh, listen,” says the first jew, “these Russians are an amazing nation: they are able to get everywhere"
-Karl Radek according to Bazhanov

 No.685532

>>684825
Another great Bolshevik who was forced out by the Khrushchevites.

 No.685538

>>684905
Yeah Stalin personally did that lol.

As if it makes any real difference whether Cyrillic or Latin is used.

 No.685571

>>684624
A good thing to remember is that the vast majority of the Jews who were in positions of power in the Soviet Union were only ethnically such.

In Russia, at the time Jews were one of the larger minorities and one of the most widely despised and victimized minorities in the country, as well as the Russian Empire, which had the most amount of Jews in Europe at the time. Of course, they were drawn to one of the only political groups/ideologies in that time period that actively fought for their liberation and safety from the Reactionary Tsarists constant pogroms and discrimination.

Keresnky's government was trying to cut back on some of the worse policies but were going too slow and with them unable to even get out of WW1 they couldn't expect them to also give Europe's punching bag full equality under the law.

And in the Russian Civil War they either weren't involved or fought with the reds because the White army was actively murdering them for no reason. Same reason why a Communist Revolution in America would have a lot of Black People involved with the communist party.

 No.685579

>>685571
>Implying these aren’t good reasons to join the communist party
>Implying that a good comparty wouldn’t purge individuals who were a detriment to its functioning, russian, jewish, white, black or anyone in between

 No.686416

>>684905
Latin + Slavic = ugly and cringe
Just look at Polish

 No.686469

>>685571
>the White army was actively murdering them
source?

 No.686475

Wasn't Kalinin Jewish?

 No.686490

>>685571
Jews weren't big in the Bolsheviks because of their social condition as a whole so much as the Jewish Labour Bund was one of the biggest and best organized socialist orgs in the Russian Empire and a bunch of their members split into a bunch of other socialist orgs and a lot joined the Bolshevik government during the Civil War considering the White opposition was controlled by literal pogromists

 No.686687

>>686475
no, he wasn't

 No.686699

>>684905
Хау эбаут ви кириллайз инглиш инстед?

 No.686708

>>686699
krinž

 No.686796

My favourite part of Das Kapital was when Trotsky confessed his forbidden love to Stalin and they kissed atop the palace of the soviets!

 No.687022

>>686469
Denikin's army committed countless pogroms.

 No.687255

>>686490
I think both could contribute to why they were prevalent though don't you think?

 No.687364

>>687255
there were still a whole lot of Jews/working class Yiddish that weren't a part of the Bund, which was still predominantly petty bourgeois and outside of the Pale of Settlement in ironically safer cities for Jews

 No.688084

>>686699
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