Castro had two Rollies Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 13:26:27 No. 685146 [Last 50 Posts]
Castro had two rollexes stolen from Cuban bourgeois, including one in the Moscow time zone. It's so much based that i can't breath. A french rapper has made a song about it,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_p0lGe5pJs all the album is fire tho, it's "la Fève ERRR"
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 13:35:39 No. 685159
>>685146 fun fact, Castro would often wear a watch tuned to every timezone to diplomatic meetings so as to keep track of the relative time in the areas discussed
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 13:42:54 No. 685164
>>685163 >commodifying communism is based the absolute state of this board
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 14:04:44 No. 685181
>>685164 I confess that i liked Rolex watches once and i liked them even more because of this ad. Will you give me absolution in the church of communism, for i am a sinner, priest? I promise i will never like a Rolex watch again and condemn their ads even when they show sympathy for Salvador Allende and Che Guevara.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 14:06:31 No. 685182
>>685163 thats actually pretty funny
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 14:07:06 No. 685183
>>685164 Communists in the 20th century liked watch makers because they were seen as progressive capitalists that were democratizing time-keeping. Even luxury brands like Rolex had affordable-ish steal watches. Before that only the Church and the train-station had a clock and that made it hard set up a meeting between people. If you lack peer to peer time synchronization, the person that shows up for a meeting early might have to wait for a few hours until everybody else shows up.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 14:27:33 No. 685192
>>685164 relax we can enjoy contradiction, stop being an moralist red priest
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 14:49:08 No. 685205
>>685183 >progressive capitalists Time to chug bleach fucker.
>>685192 >moralist red priest Buddy, communism is built on morals. Quiet down with your revisionist bullshit.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 14:50:55 No. 685207
>>685205 >communism is built on morals. It is not. Was this a typo or are you the latest iteration of illiterate pseudo-leftcom clown that I'm about to filter?
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:00:44 No. 685212
>>685164 I agree, quality watches shouldn't be a commodity, rolex plants should be socialized and every proletarian provided with a stylish but affordable watch.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:01:55 No. 685214
>>685207 >It is not. Was this a typo or are you the latest iteration of illiterate pseudo-leftcom clown that I'm about to filter? You dare deny the morality of distributing the means among the proletariat? You dare deny the morality of ending wage labour? You dare deny the morality of creating a society with no masters, no gods, only people who are equal? You dare deny the morality of ending the boots of oppression and imperialism to achieve such a dream?
Begone with thee, for you have clearly been misled by the capitalist powers.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:02:34 No. 685216
>>685205 >Buddy, communism is built on morals. <leftcom What the actual fuck?
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:03:05 No. 685217
>>685205 wtf are you talking about
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:03:23 No. 685219
>>685213
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:03:43 No. 685221
>>685214 Read marx pseud leftcom
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:05:43 No. 685223
>>685221 >>685217 What the fuck are YOU talking about revisionist
>>685221 YOU go read Marx you fucking fake
>>685216 There is no contradiction here retard, please shut the fuck up.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:06:16 No. 685224
>>685219 >>685214 all the work of marx want to prove that communism is an inevitable conclusion of capitalism not a moral necessity. Moral can't produce a world. You may be don't agree with this but leftcom are the most "ardent" marxist on this subject
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:08:26 No. 685225
>>685223 Proletariat will build moral but based on the necessity of their class, moral are produced by the historical devellopement. Marx has studied the develloppement nothing else. So morals of the proletariat may change on the conditions. Communism is not morals but the necessity for the domination of the proletariat
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:09:35 No. 685229
>>685223 And let us enjoy the rollies of castro
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:14:34 No. 685231
>>685224 >>685224 >>685225 >>685228 >all the work of marx want to prove that communism is an inevitable conclusion of capitalism not a moral necessit >Pseudo leftcom doesn't know what they are talking about Marx had opinions like any other human being. He had seen communism as not only a inevitably, but also a moral necessity.
>And let us enjoy the rollies of castro And as if I didn't need any more confirmation. Castro is a revisionist you fucking fake. Kill yourself and then go read Marx.
>>685228 How you "fuck of" instead fakecom.
>>685230 Like you would know what a real leftcom looked like.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:16:38 No. 685234
>>685231 “Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.” this is litteraly the quotation that leftcom quote the much
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:17:52 No. 685235
>Che and Castro aren’t communists because they wore Rolexes, as did most intrepid individuals of the day >They were immoral in my opinion for being able to tell the time reliably >Communism is built on morals, specifically my morals
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:18:17 No. 685236
>>685231 You are litteraly a neo-kantians marxiste, so the worst of the socdem
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:21:03 No. 685240
>>685231 You're litteraly Bernstein
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:22:42 No. 685243
>685234
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:25:59 No. 685245
>>685236 >>685240 >>685239 >>685238 You are literally retarded and need to go read Marx
>>685235 >They were immoral in my opinion for being able to tell the time reliably Missing the point
>Communism is built on morals, specifically my morals So now you're just making up stuff entirely now.
it's where they got the Rolex watches from retard.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:28:03 No. 685247
>>685243 the communist ideals, morals, is the production of the social necessity of the proletariat if the conditions of the proletariat changes, the "ideal" will change, not the communist necessity, communism is not a "perfect society" but the social necessity of the domination of the proletarian class. the morals change with the material conditions it's the base of the materialist theory, morals are contingent on the social situation.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:29:30 No. 685248
>>685245 Where did they get them from?
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:30:46 No. 685251
>>685245 so if there is morals in communism, it's adjacent, not the hearth of the marxist understanding of the question. You should read Engels on scientific socialism and utopian socialism.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:41:21 No. 685258
>>685251 >>685247 Interesting.
>>685248 >Retard can't read op's post Retard.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:45:48 No. 685264
>>685251 >>685247 State this instead of your first statement. It looks better.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:46:54 No. 685265
>>685258 So stealing watches from effectively slave owners is immoral and uncommunist?
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:48:50 No. 685271
>>685265 >>685265 The watches and other previous properties of the bourgeois must be distributed among the proletariat my guy. Not just taken by the next guy in charge.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:54:29 No. 685274
>>685271 How exactly do you do that with a watch?
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:55:44 No. 685275
>>685271 stop being cringe, we can enjoy "corrupted" things you know, we don't need to be first degree on everything. All i smell is middle class morality, a drive for purity. You should log off a bit. i'm not marxist leninist, but i can love "mythical people" of the decolonisation period without lost my critical point of view.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 15:59:10 No. 685277
>>685274 >How exactly do you do that with a watch? By making it public property and not personal property.
>>685275 >we can enjoy "corrupted" things you know Not without the approval of the proletariat you can't.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:01:10 No. 685278
>>685275 And to clarify, I'm not talking about just any Rolex watch. I'm talking about the Rolex watches that were the former property of the bourgeois. I don't give a damn if you picked up some random Rolex watch off the ground.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:04:05 No. 685283
>>685277 So people take turns using the watch? An entire country? To be honest if the choice is between me getting to wear a Rolex for a day once every decade, or the leader of a revolution having it and keeping good time while he goes about his revolutionary business, I’m quite happy without a Rolex I can call my own briefly.
I think you’re applying the modern branding and marketing of Rolex on to the 1960s, the difference is back then watches were a necessity and Rolexes were just particularly rugged and accurate, they’ve only become the reserve of the particularly wealthy since watches stopped being a necessity. Having a Rolex back then was not the same as it is now.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:06:15 No. 685284
>>685283 >So people take turns using the watch? An entire country? Yes. Exactly. Or it gets shoved into a public vault or museum.
Well I disagree, so now we have to vote on it.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:08:37 No. 685285
>>685283 >>685283 >I think you’re applying the modern branding and marketing of Rolex on to the 1960s I'm not. Like I said, I don't care of you pick up some random Rolex off the ground.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:08:45 No. 685286
>>685283 so no flex , no fun , no style. only frozen religious purity
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:10:17 No. 685288
>>685285 You must be a very not funny person to know, to look at the world in a so sad fashion, to much first degree
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:12:40 No. 685290
>>685284 Do you know that men dance and sing in the antille? They are not affected by white rigid morality
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:13:06 No. 685291
>>685284 So then it doesn’t benefit anyone..
A watch isn’t private property anyway, it’s a personal belonging and therefore the only way the act of looting a watch from the bourgeoisie can be considered immoral is if you consider it grave robbing.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:21:21 No. 685298
>>685288 Sure.
>>685291 >So then it doesn’t benefit anyone Actually it does. It makes sure that any "revolutionary leadership" stays on equal footing with the rest of the public. They can't just take the property of the bourgeoisie for themselves and run off to create some crappy capitalist state with said riches. Nor could they create the illusion that they are some "higher person" that deserves more than everyone else.
No property of the bourgeoisie shall be seized by anyone without the approval of the public.
>it’s a personal belonging Correction: it WAS a personal belonging to the bourgeoisie. Now it's a public property.
Tsk tsk tsk. Looting the watch from the bourgeoisie is not immoral. Claiming the watch for yourself without the approval of the people is.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:26:22 No. 685302
>>685298 It’s not property, how does it go from being a belonging to being property? How is a watch directly producing capital on the wrist of a capitalist? How is an individual watch part of the productive mode?
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:28:31 No. 685304
>>685302 >from being a belonging to being property It was always a property. It just transitioned from being a personal property to a public property. Why? Because it was seized by the revolution.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:30:19 No. 685305
>>685302 >>685302 >How is a watch directly producing capital on the wrist of a capitalist? How is an individual watch part of the productive mode? It does not need to do either to become a public property. Does a public statue do that? Does a park bench do that?
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:31:54 No. 685308
>>685305 Okay you clearly don’t know what “property” actually is
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:38:22 No. 685314
>>685308 Quite the contrary my projecting opponent. You have the misunderstanding of somehow thinking that personal belongings are not a form of property. They are, it's called personal property. When it dedicated to a public use, it becomes a public property.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:38:47 No. 685315
>>685163 Ads back then were a little more subdued, but just as ridiculous. The Pepsi ad is one of those.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:46:51 No. 685323
>>685314 Property relates to shit that produces stuff or under capitalism generates a profit/capital. It’s land, tools, factories, etc. Personal possessions/belongings aren’t the same because they’re not used by other people than yourself, if you live in a house you own then the house is your belonging, if you own a house that you charge rent to others who live in it, that house is property.
If there’s no distinction between property and possessions in your worldview then that’s fucking retarded. Why? You’ve made a distinction between looting a Rolex off the bourgeoisie and finding one on the ground based on the “morality” between the two when that’s something that is highly subjective (what if the watch you picked up belonged to someone who saved up years to buy it and you just found it outside their house?), when you don’t need to do that. There’s an objective difference between property and possession.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 16:49:01 No. 685326
>>685304 >It just transitioned from being a personal property to a public property. So, the toothbrush meme was no meme at all?
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 17:09:04 No. 685340
>>685326 >So, the toothbrush meme was no meme at all? No, that's still a meme. It's not like your toothbrush is going to be seized by the revolution (unless you yourself are bourgeoisie).
>>685323 It does not relate to just that. You are just massively misunderstanding this topic.
Belongings are property retard. They are personal property. If you are renting out a house, it's private property because you are not personally using it and it's also being used to extract capital.
It really isn't retard. Possessions and belongings are the same as property.
I'm saying what SHOULD happen with the bourgeoisie watch, not what WOULD happen. Some random non revolutionary chump could just pick it up for themselves. Or the next dictator or group of oligarchs could pick it up for themselves.
How the fuck would you know that retard? Unless the watch had identification on it, it's free game. No one could really do anything about that unless they had something to trace the origin of the watch.
There really isn't, you are just very confused.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 17:12:22 No. 685343
>>685326 We're coming for your toothbrush bucko
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 17:15:35 No. 685347
>>685340 It’s a capitalist meme that capital producing property is the same as personal belongings, that’s how they appeal to emotion with the idea that seizing a landlords property is the same as having some bureaucrat chuck you out of your own home that you live in, by calling everything property. If you’ve internalised that and are using a capitalist fallacy to make the point that Che and Castro were bad, immoral communists for a having a watch then I dunno what to tell you.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 17:20:57 No. 685357
>>685346 >>685347 You said this twice.
And it's a capitalist meme that private property is the same as personal property.
How many times do we have to go over this. The capital producing property is called private property. Personal belongings are in the domain of personal property.
Things and property utilized by the public is public property.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 17:28:41 No. 685369
>>685357 That wasn’t the argument you were making, but I can’t be assed to teach you when you think communism is based on morals rather than logic to begin with
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 17:40:38 No. 685388
>>685369 >That wasn’t the argument you were making, but I can’t be assed to teach you when you That is one of the arguments I was making.
I actually don't think that, I just don't like when people try to use the fact that communism isn't a moralistic ideology to discourage actually moral activity. Communism is purely "economic".
I wanted to draw them out so they could properly explain why it isn't moralistic, but rather economic.
I also wanted to explain that while it is not a moralistic ideology, doing things that are typically "universally" immoral don't exactly help progress communism.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 17:55:17 No. 685404
>>685388 Uh-huh, you were just pretending to be a retard
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:01:12 No. 685409
>>685404 >>685404 >Uh-huh, you were just pretending to be a retard That's not retarded, that's being slightly misinformed. However, saying belongings are not property is very retarded.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:06:10 No. 685413
>>685388 You can't cope from the fact that Fidel castro is a wholesome and based revolutionary pirate who flex with two rollex stolen from bourgeoisie.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:09:00 No. 685415
>>685413 >that Fidel castro is a wholesome and based revolutionary Fidel Castro was a bourgeoisie revisionist who who's biggest accomplishment was a full circle revolution.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:11:26 No. 685420
>>685409 I explained why property and belongings are different, you actually can’t explain why I’m wrong and just keep insisting that it’s all property so you can make your point that despite all that Che and Castro liberated for the Cuban people, ackshually they’ve harmed the communist movement by acting immorally according to ‘universal’ morals by daring to keep even a single watch that was taken from some bourgeois slave owner, I mean fuck the farm right? Rolexes are the real shit, how dare they presume to keep the watch for themselves and only give the farm to the workers.. oh but of course if you just happened across a Rolex on the floor then finders keepers because whatever, it’s all just property right? You must realise how nonsensical you sound?
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:12:35 No. 685421
>>685415 bait again no fun to much first degreee
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:15:23 No. 685425
>>685415 After more and more i can see that you know nothing about the anti-imperialist struggle, the bureaucratic character of Cuba does not prevent this state from being at the forefront of the decolonial struggles in Africa whose actions were decisive in the fall of apartheid in South Africa. If theoretical purity interests you more than the real emancipation of humanity then fuck you.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:17:19 No. 685428
>>685415 You are as stupid as the blissful apologists of Stalinism and the international bureaucracy, you see things in white and black.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:20:32 No. 685433
>>685152 Castro was not really that different to Khrushchev in the Cuban model of socialism.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:28:54 No. 685445
>>685433 Does khrushchev have two rollex and a cigar at a meeting ? no. The fundamental nature of their socialism is different.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:34:20 No. 685451
>>685445 >communism is when no luxury Christ people have really internalised capitalist projections of communism being some kind of primitivism cult
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:36:01 No. 685454
>>685420 >I explained why property and belongings are different You really didn't.
Possessions and property are the same thing. Both these words have the same meaning you fucking retard.
Do you need a fucking dictionary or something retard?
I did not say anything about that being "universal morals" retard. If you had been paying attention, you'd know I used the words "universal morals" for the other argument, not this one.
No one here said "fuck the farm". Now you are just arguing purely in bad faith.
Give the watch to the workers too you fucker.
, it’s all just property right? You must realise how nonsensical you sound?
What a little cowardly bitch you are. I have already stated here that unless you can trace the origin of said watch found on the ground or if someone else can properly identify it, it's yours because no one else can legitimately claim it.
But for individuals like Castro or any other revolutionary leader, they already know what where that watch came from, the bourgeoisie. It is not theirs to take, it is for the people and the revolution to take.
>>685425 >After more and more i can see that you know nothing about the anti-imperialist struggle Sure buddy, whatever you say.
What are you even going on about here retard.
This argument would only work if going off the books actually does progress the real emancipation of humanity. It does not. It only creates revisionist bastards and regression.
I have yet to see anyone make actual good progress from going off theory.
>We can think about history not white and black always you know. Oh look, the projector is projecting.
>>685428 >You are as stupid as the blissful apologists of Stalinism and the international bureaucracy, you see things in white and black. Oh yes, I'm the guy who goes " this nation good, this nation".
>>685451 Yes, yes they have.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:38:05 No. 685457
>>685146 Did he ever say whose Rolex it was?
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:38:32 No. 685458
>>685454 >the people I would've thought a leftcoom would know better than to talk about the "people" and not the proletariat.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:41:49 No. 685462
>>685458 He is a new confused leftist or at worst a neo-kantian moralist who ignores himself. He is not at all a leftcommunist, he preached to us that communism was a moral project.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:44:29 No. 685468
>>685458 >I would've thought a leftcoom would know >Lenin hat You wouldn't know anything Lenin hat.
>>685462 >he preached to us that communism was a moral project. I'm really sorry you can't read. It must be very unfortunate to be illiterate.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:45:01 No. 685470
>moralist shitting up another decent thread
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:46:11 No. 685473
>>685470 >>685470 This guy barbeques dogs.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:47:09 No. 685475
>>685468 Don't make us believe it is obvious that you don't know anything about materialist theory. Earlier you even laughed at the fact that there could exist "progressive capitalists" while Marx speaks explicitly of the progressive role of the bourgeoisie.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:48:08 No. 685478
>>685454 I’m not making another reply to you after this one because I’m not going round and round in circles explaining the Marxist definition of property only for you to repeat “erm ackshually they mean the same thing outside of Marxist discussion” again. You’ve made a huge deal out of Castro wearing a watch because you still fundamentally believe it’s a stolen belonging, and in your mind that immoral act can only be reconciled by having it be donated to a museum or somehow shared with others because communism is supposed to be about 100% equality. That’s the only reason why there is that distinction for you about “finding” a watch, if it’s found then therefore it’s not stolen and you don’t need to share it. I mentioned the farm because as property, in the Marxist definition, it’s worth so much more than a watch and there was never any doubt who the farms of Cuba would belong to, so get the fuck over it already.
In all honesty you sound like an ancap rather than a communist.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:49:22 No. 685479
>>685468 so assume your incompetence on the subject. It's ok to not know or even in opposition. But but to make believe that you are a leftcom while you neither know anything in marxism is stupid
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 18:58:01 No. 685488
>>685475 >Don't make us believe it is obvious that you don't know anything about materialist theory. Earlier you even laughed at the fact that there could exist "progressive capitalists" while Marx speaks explicitly of the progressive role of the bourgeoisie. I already know of class traitors retard. I was fucking with you.
>>685478 >You’ve made a huge deal out of Castro wearing a watch because you still fundamentally believe it’s a stolen belonging It is a stolen belonging though.
Yes. Why do you have such a problem with this?
I mean, if you really want to, you can put it in lost and found. But if such a thing is not accessible, nor is the watch traceable or track by someone else, you can claim it yourself.
The proletariat. The people.
>so get the fuck over it already. How about you get the fuck over it.
>I mentioned the farm because as property, in the Marxist definition, it’s worth so much more than a watch No shit
>>685479 >so assume your incompetence on the subject. It's ok to not know or even in opposition. But but to make believe that you are a leftcom while you neither know anything in marxism is stupid Okay illiterate fakecom, whatever you say.
>>685483 I don't believe you.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 19:03:27 No. 685496
>>685468 What wouldn't I know kid?
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 19:04:44 No. 685500
>>685488 Putain mais ton ignorance crasse tu l'étale une fois de plus.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 19:10:35 No. 685505
>>685181 >>685192 what the fuck does this have to do with moralism you triple uyghurs?
stop trying to appropriate egoist critiques of marxism when you can't even get the terminology right
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 19:13:01 No. 685507
>>685496 Anything
>>685495 >>685497 > In Marxist theory, the term private property typically refers to capital or the means of production, while personal property refers to consumer and non-capital goods and services. Oh look, it's exactly what I've stated and been stating.
>>685499 Habeeb
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 19:23:32 No. 685515
>>685415 <Fidel Castro was a bourgeoisie revisionist <bourgeoisie revisionist Ostie d'Anglo minable,
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 19:34:41 No. 685530
>>685507 No it isn’t, you kept saying that the difference between private and personal property is who already owns it and claimed it has nothing to do with what that property’s relation to production is.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 19:40:06 No. 685535
>>685530 > you kept saying that the difference between private and personal property is who already owns it and claimed it has nothing to do with what that property’s relation to production is That's isn't even close to what I've been saying you actual retard.
Personal property is personal belongings
Private property is property that is either apart of the means or capital.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 19:46:55 No. 685541
>>685535 Oh fuck off you disingenuous cunt
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 19:49:41 No. 685544
>>685541 >Oh fuck off you disingenuous cunt There literally nothing disingenuous about what I said, you are just extremely retarded.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 19:58:31 No. 685553
>>685544 You made such a big deal out of the watch because “ITS PRIVATE PROPERTY RETARDS AND CASTRO TOOK IT FOR HIMSELF”, when it was explained to you that a watch is not private property in the Marxist sense and therefore entirely irrelevant and unnecessary to distribute to the proletariat, you said that was wrong. Now given that definition again in more formal terms, you’re claiming that has been your position the whole time. You’re pathetic mate.
NameCom 2022-01-10 (Mon) 20:08:42 No. 685563
>>685553 >You made such a big deal out of the watch because “ITS PRIVATE PROPERTY RETARDS AND CASTRO TOOK IT FOR HIMSELF Who's being a disingenuous cunt now. I said multiple fucking times that the watch was personal property.
I already stated it was personal property multiple times.
>and therefore entirely irrelevant and unnecessary to distribute to the proletariat, you said that was wrong. Yeah, it is wrong. They WERE personal properties until their owners were killed. They should have become public property because it was seized by the revolution. Castro, without the approval of the proletariat, took these personal properties for himself and then uplifted himself into a unequal social status.
I argued that these personal properties should be seized by the public to avoid bourgeoisie like mentality and to keep leaders on equal footing with the proletariat.
That is exactly correct.
No u.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 20:15:27 No. 685569
>>685152 Nikita doesn't look like a "soylet" at all in this pic, but yes severe autism should be treated. You proved that
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 20:29:31 No. 685586
>>685563 > They WERE personal properties until their owners were killed. They should have become public property because it was seized by the revolution. You can change private property to public property, but personal belongings/property/possessions cannot because they don’t serve any purpose to anyone other than to the individual that possesses it. There’s no functional way to make a watch a publicly owned possession and for it to keep its functionality.
At the end of the day the watches were looted, I’ve already said that, but there’s no reason this example of looting is any worse than any other claim to the spoils of war, your moralising about it being uncommunist and setting communism back was entirely based on your own lack of understanding of property from a Marxist perspective
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 21:45:57 No. 685710
Whose body did they loot it off?
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 22:06:04 No. 685727
>>685146 >stolen from Cuban bourgeois BASED and redpilled, at least he didn't exploit any workers' labor to do it.
My man literally pirated because he knew purchasing would be unethical.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 22:08:58 No. 685729
>>685183 Based, the capitalists will sell us the ropes we use to hang them.
I can just imagine revolutionaries gathering in a basement to coordinate because one of them has a watch instead of going to the train station and getting picked up by the pigs.
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 22:29:39 No. 685741
I really enjoyed talking with all of you, it's gone in shitstorm but I love it so much
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 23:11:43 No. 685796
>>685205 >Buddy, communism is built on morals. Lmfao
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