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Financial Grindset General =)
Moulinet Financier Général =)

Anyone happen to know a good area in Ontario to find a manufacturing job easily? Tired of lumpen hell tbh.


Dude the neoliberal party of Canada has won every election for PM except for that one time when the reactionary neoliberals one in the 1900s when their rule lasted for exactly a year.

There is no left in Canada they just will vote neoliberal until the sun explodes


No, the other neoliberal party also won a bunch of times, including relatively recently. Anyways, who cares about elections?


The opposition to maduro won


Not true, I heard there were some Hoxhaist larpers hiding under a rock somewhere.
Plus you have the Roo.


the CPC (ML)? it's a cult whose leader died a while ago


Trying to join the OG CPC but they won't even return my emails. No wonder they are irrelevant.


try contacting people in the provincial branch, i remember they were responsive and that's who you should be working with anyways and are def less frigid than the national org
from what i experienced with the Ontario party, they're pretty desperate to form any local clubs in the smaller cities


>try contacting people in the provincial branch, i remember they were responsive and that's who you should be working with anyways and are def less frigid than the national org
Bruh I was contacting my municipal branch, still nothing.



I'll give it a try. Before I just DM'd my local branch on social media expressing interest, and they kept saying they would get back to me with more details but never did.


tbh might as well not bother. they're not very serious nor have any actual connection to workers as you can probably tell. massive campists too



>In the video, two masked, uniformed officers are shown at the door of a basement unit of a home asking to speak with the tenant.
>One officer points at the camera [picrel] before speaking with the tenant, who has the door cracked open.
>The footage shows the tenant — a woman who is transgender and has disabilities — telling the officer her neighbour has made a complaint against her.
>She also says he is the superintendent and he made past complaints about her.
>In the video, she says the neighbour is trying to allow renovations that are contrary to the zoning of the home and he is trying to evict her. >The superintendent is "harassing his tenant and making it construed to be the opposite," she says.
>"Can I finish my sentence?" one officer says. "If you damage his property, you are going to be arrested."
>The woman says she didn't damage any property: "Please don't speak to me like that."
>In a raised voice, the officer says, "I'll just speak over you because clearly you're unreasonable and you don't listen.
>"If you damage his property, you are going to be arrested. So do not damage anything. Is that clear? Thank you."
>In the video, the woman says she understands and, as the officers are leaving, adds, "Enjoy your bullying of a position."
>That's when the officer turns and lunges toward the woman as she quickly shuts the door.
>The video shows him looking at the other officer and laughing as they leave.


proletariat, not workers. we're not here to valorize doing work, capitalists already do that plenty


>splitting hairs


hate this neoliberal hell hole. what are y’all opinions on the various left orgs in canada


>what are y’all opinions on the various left orgs in canada
NDP are neoliberal, idpozz'd socdems, though they have some moderately based elements who remain marginalized. The two communist parties are so tiny and impotent its hard to find any trace of them doing anything noteworthy even when you're actively looking for it.


i don't have any opinions on them
NDP isn't neoliberal, and they have a fairly standard progressive platform. unfortunately they're purely electoral and also have been taken over by petit-bourgeois
you don't need to worry about "idpol" because they're extremely lukewarm on it when you get down to it
oh, also they support giving the military better funding and continuing klanada's involvement in NATO interventions


i think it could be salvageable with a push for more industrial union people and the like to take mid- and high-level positions in the provincial branches tho which is where the real power is


>what are y’all opinions on the various left orgs in canada
all dead except Liberals/NDP.


There the same party


yeah duh they are the same because the left in the west is just the same neoliberal bullshit with different colours.


Fellow leafs, I dare you to listen to this story and not cry.

A true inspiration right here.


Can someone give me a rundown of the various socialist groups in Canada


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>what is on to ottawa
>what is OBU

hell saskatchewan was technically the first socialist/social democratic government in all of north america


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the problem with leftism in canada is that it consists mostly of doomers, weirdo landback types who are more focused on getting people to support vague notions like "listening to indigenous voices to solve climate change" instead of solutions to problems or people who simp for china literally no matter what. i'm actually somewhat optimistic about socialism in canada its just that you have to build something really far away from most of the modern left here


Havent the NDP pushed austerity when they get elected provincially I know they had in Ontario in the 90s, + the whole BC logging thing that happened puts no hope in the NDP, if elected I wont be surprised if they're no different than the Neoliberals.


yeah, like i said in >>687059, we could get union interests into that level, and not the reactionary kind either, the more grassroots kind. that’s where the small business owners and financial managers and whatever were smart enough to infiltrate decades ago, because they knew austerity would be unpopular on a federal level, at least for the time being


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also bring back Ontario Hydro


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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the new premier of Manitoba.


How fo you feel about Quebec nationalism or seperatism?


abolish all nationalities, not just "canadian"


Slowly realizing how redpilled a lot of Canadians are on Marx. It's especially confusing considering the state of the left here also, though.





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cinematic parallels..


Is the truckers thing real or is it just some schizo protest?


It's real and can hurt the economy. Which is a good thing.


apparently it's being co-ordinated here
there are some videos but the numbers themselves seem to be wildly fluctuating. at one point it was 500k truckers, even a million at another, which is a bit dubious


Canadian leftoids are on the case with their trucker convoy takes



I think it's weird and bourgeois and probably co-ordinated by conservative politicians. there's a video of a conservative MP grandstanding about how the reporters are biased, and it seems very staged and calculated



I hate this country so fucking much. Why do Ukrainians control our entire foreign policy?


Canadian foreign policy has always been interventionist since the Suez Crisis


Canada is a meme


what country isn’t?


truckers are not essential to the economy and they can be fired and thrown into the gulag anytime
someone needs to get this across to them


wonder if CSIS are monitoring this thread



why is this guy calling Ukrainians that settled in the 19th century far right? they’re not exactly gusanos either


why are there so many americans in ontario


they’ll treat you like an alien species for having actually grown up here



Going to my first CPCa meeting next Thursday.


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may god have mercy on your soul i shouldn't be judging i'm trying to organize within the NDP as theres no actual left party here, thankfully the local NDP leadership is fairly radicalized


>may god have mercy on your soul
Idk m8 the local chapter seems pretty good so far, they do a lot of community work and apparently have been growing a lot recently.


Inter-provincial train tickets are overpriced as fuck, and the commute itself is absurdly long and always delayed on top of that. I think the government is trying to gradually make public support for privatization possible this way.


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I joined the CPUSA recently and my local club is very small but I think it'd be nice to select a Canadian communist club and write them a letter with a little thank you card. Like "we're very proud of all the work that you're doing and are certain it will bring many victories." Don't even ask for anything, just do it to be nice.


>The lessons that we learned are numerous. We sought clarity and found it in abundance. We outlined the foundations for organized communists to again intervene in class struggle in the United States and in Canada. However far off the goal of communism may feel to us in the present, steps in the right direction toward that realization should always be met with enthusiasm.
>The ruling class that did not want to pay other forms of social wage won't pay workers unless they are extracting profits from them. A reform that won't happen isn't going to feed, house or employ anyone. The distance of most leftists from this ongoing experience of the working class greater in this regard. The capitalist class main motive in all things is to accumulate capital while now it hides its true motive behind a mask of false concern for public health.
>The road ahead for competing nations hoping to reach herd immunity will be fraught. Conflicts that have been postponed but not resolved will continue to boil over. While financial markets have been soaring, this will not be sustained if profitability is not restored in the near term.
>Teachers across the country have demonstrated an understanding of their dangerous situation and have engaged in walk-outs, sick-outs, and even raised the possibility of strikes in response to school reopenings. Unfortunately, these strikes failed to materialize on a mass-scale due to the hold of the unions over the teachers.
>In 2019, the surge in strike activity continued and over 420 thousand workers were involved in major work stoppages. This rise in activity and demand for safer conditions and higher pay is not something that has been restricted to the United States, it has been present on some level throughout the world.
>While the majority of people who seek to terminate their pregnancy are straight cisgender women – lesbian, bisexual, and transgender workers are also heavily impacted by whether adequate contraception and safe abortion are accessible. Increased risk of sexual assault and attempts to combat bullying in school or otherwise conceal their sexual or gender identity can lead to adolescent sexual and gender minorities who are capable of pregnancy, falling pregnant at a much higher rate than their straight cisgender counterparts. Due to this, they are said to be at least twice as likely to seek out an abortion.
>To understand nationalism as a political force one must grasp a basic marxist understanding of the state as the product of irreconcilable class antagonisms, as “bodies of armed men”. Nationalism never includes the working class save as cannon fodder, as labor units to be mobilized in support of any particular faction of the bourgeoisie. For left nationalists the working class is a spectator.
>When the Minneapolis City Council originally announced its plan in June to disband the police force, many leftists across the US celebrated this as a step forward, claiming this was a necessary step “towards socialism.” On the contrary, it was actually harmful towards workers and the communist programme. Not only does this narrative completely misrepresent abolition and reform, it also convinces people into thinking that a gradual approach to communism can work.


>Unable to overcome the logic of capital and the tendency towards for its rate of profit to fall, the various actors in the global imperialist framework are now thrashing in the cold Arctic waters, a region witnessing extreme militarization in light of the desperate imperialist rivalry. The new imperialist arena has opened up due to rapid and catastrophic environmental calamity, all of this is made possible. The Arctic no longer presents itself as an icy desert, but is instead a region of increasingly attractive mineral and energy resource along with coveted sea routes which could be more lucrative than the Panama or Suez canals.
>“In Southern Ontario, MAWs [Migrant Agricultural Workers] entering mandatory isolation at a large fruit farm reached out to local advocates and expressed concern over their shared kitchen and bathroom spaces. Housed in a trailer, each worker was provided with their own bedroom for the isolation period, but after the isolation period workers were told they would be housed two or three to a room. All workers living in the trailer share one small kitchen and one bathroom. They were not provided with adequate sanitation supplies to regularly disinfect shared surfaces, and furthermore, they have been instructed to stay in their housing at all times, even after the 14-day quarantine. These workers are concerned that such crowded and inadequate living conditions will place them at risk for COVID-19 throughout the season.”



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>Crossing the bridge over the South Thompson River and into the urban reserve of Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc First Nation, one could see memorials lining the road in memory of the children lost to residential schools. As comrades entered the reserve, they drove up close to a small group of people sitting beneath a pop-up canopy tent, escaping the beating sun in one of the hottest summers ever experienced in British Columbia. Initially, comrades figured the people under the canopy were there to greet the influx of people curious about or paying their respects to the victims of residential schools. It turned out, however, that these people were managing wildfire evacuees displaced from nearby reserves and now staying at the Moccasin Square Garden sports complex and community centre on the reserve.
>A swole guy in his 30s approached our group of comrades, and asked if we needed assistance (comrades in the caravan were learning that this was a courteous way of asking what the hell are you doing on the rez?). Comrades stated their purpose, and the guy introduced himself as Danny and walked our group over to the Kamloops Indian Residential School. Danny recounted stories of the many who’d come through to “pay their respects,” and shared with comrades the terrible legacy of violence and trauma that Canada’s genocidal institution had left to him and so many others: “Five years ago if you came on my rez, I would have fought you—who the fuck are these white people pretending to learn from me—but now I see that was just my own insecurities from my trauma.”
>We talked to Danny for well over an hour. One story he recounted was about the integrated high school he went to in Kamloops where violent encounters with racist white gangs was to be expected: “Back in high school, there was this one guy with a big ‘A’ on the back of his head; you know what that means right? Aryan Nation.” Incredibly, Danny went on to tell us how he overcame the tension with this particular individual later in life, and how this guy had become a motivational speaker against hate.
>Comrades managed to get much deeper into political discussion with Danny, and were able to convey a bit more about the deeper purpose of the caravan. “Danny, this isn’t a camping trip and we’re not here as tourists: our purpose is revolutionary. We believe this colonial regime needs to fall, and we think there’s enough people in this country—Native and non-Native—who can be organized to make that happen.” Danny chuckled a bit in disbelief—but he could see this group of comrades, while also smiling, were serious. “Y’all are a bunch of crazy motherfuckers,” he responded, and with a finger sweeping from one side of the semi-circle of comrades to the other, he replied, “in ten years, you’ll be in jail, you’ll be dead, you’ll be living on the streets, you’ll be working for a cartel, and you,” he stops on the final comrade, “you’ll be rich… because you look pretty smart and someone’s gonna buy you out.”
>Danny showed no signs of ever having heard of what a proletarian revolution is—so what, he’s among the vast majority who are victim to a vast system of bourgeois propaganda that’s effectively rendered the history of proletarian revolutions forgotten if not vilified. And given how endemic the corruption and nepotism is within the colonial governance structures on reserves, where resources are scarce and control for those resources is that much more intense, who could blame him for a little bit of cynicism? “Divide and conquer isn’t like it used to be. You wanna know how to destroy an Indian Nation? Through money… There’s fights between nations because of how the government selectively gives money only to certain people.” Danny went on talking about the divisiveness of politics on reserves: “Every election, there’s a big fight here.” And Danny didn’t see himself as somehow righteously above that fray: “Sure I’d take $80,000 right now if they offered it to me. I’ve never seen that kind of money, of course I’d take it!”
>Comrades parted ways with Danny with a warmth that few people would expect a group of randos to have received after wandering onto a reserve just an hour earlier: “You’re not revolutionaries…,” he said, suggesting he viewed the R-word with suspicion, “you’re visionaries.” Danny parted ways with the comrades with tightly-clasped hands, hugs, and these final words: “When it all goes down, I’ll be watching y’all from over here on my war pony. I may even come to help you out, but only in the dark so I’m not labelled with you all [laughs]. Eh, maybe you can even hide out on the rez for a bit.” That one hour conversation left comrades full of hope and conviction that a revolutionary alliance between Indigenous and non-Indigenous peoples of the popular classes was not only necessary, but entirely possible. If only we had the force to carry out these sorts of conversations thousands of times over, such a revolutionary alliance would certainly begin to take shape. (Alas, such is the work of a proletarian vanguard party that we sorely lack and desperately need to build).


Also curious.


Being a communist in Canada is literally irrelevant. If a revolution succeeds in Canada but not the U.S it will be crushed. If a revolution succeeds in the U.S but not Canada it will simply be annexed by the the new socialist state to its south.


who cares, this isn't a pissing contest. communism is international
also weird post in general


No its not just accept that you would be better off moving down south and helping rather than stay up north. Also what's weird about it? Do you think I come to the conclusion of this post from a standpoint of nationalism? Its just pragmatism stop jerking yourself off believing that you are more revolutionary by claiming that it is "international" to be useless up north rather than useful down south.


no one's arguing for anyone staying in canada, agent smith. calm down


If your immediate response to criticism is fed jacketing you might be a retard who is too afraid to admit they are wrong.


Did you miss the "workers of ALL LANDS" part?


what criticism? that activism under a bourgeois government that spans from coast to coast of an entire continent is any more or less important than activism under another bourgeois government? not to mention there are areas of Canada that are vastly bigger linchpins of global capital than parts of the US. a bunch of questions wallpapered over by a weird aggressive post out of the blue that treats nation states as the be-all-end-all of any considerations
also this isn't even like an alien idea to any canadian radical, who regularly interact with the US left anyways and sometimes even move across borders. if anything, it's much better for both empires to have all activism isolated to only a single one of them. anyways this is all obvious



Lmao. It is a lowkey colour revolution if anything.


>>686722 on existe, juste pas dans ta vision d'anglo impérialiste



Wonder if the truckfuckers are gonna go home now that their handlers are telling them to fuck off.


Brainlet here, can someone give me a clearer picture of the stuff with truckers?

Here's what i gathered:
>Chimped out after vax mandate
>Receving tons of money from anonymous sources (Rightoid backers)
>LARPing as indigenous to gain support
>Emergency proclaimed in Ottawa
>Ben Norton declares them to be astroturf 100%

My questions is: what will fucking happen now?
Are we about to see Jan 6 tier kino or better or its just nothingburger (seems the latter but I'm not certain).


why do you need anyone to tell you


Because I'm not Canadian but interested, either in the memes or in the events.


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>join various left wing online groups
>check them out during the convoy thing
>people calling for csis to expand their powers and for the army to just go in and establish a killzone justifying it by saying indigenous people are treated in the same way

i hate these people


What's so secial about the canadian lockdown policies that makes people consider it totalitarian to the point that the "freedom convoy" happened? There aren't protests like that in the USA. What the hell canadabros


bruh i need a job


Probably a nothingburger. That being said some libs are already losing their shit over it. I heard a CBC interview where some libshit Ottawa city councilor called it an "insurrection" and said the truckers were "terrorists" lmao. However it ends it will probably be used as an excuse to expand repressive powers much like Jan 6.
>What's so secial about the canadian lockdown policies
>There aren't protests like that in the USA.
Wtf are you on about people were protesting about it in the US from day 1.


Get a job in admin/office, it's piss easy


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Much like Jan. 6 in the U.S. there's no real organization. There's a ton of money up for grabs, and some kind of nascent organization maybe forming with a lot of different people trying to influence this group, some for grift, some to shift Canadian politics. If an organization spawns out of this that seems reasonably politically organized and focused on specific demands then we can talk color revolution, until then it's probably going to fade away as lawsuits and legal battles begin to drain whatever money has been left on the table and hasn't been scooped up by the various right-wing opportunists and media personalities who have noticed that the show is over and it's time grab what they can.

Anyways here's a poll. So… lol at two things. The first lol is the Green Party which shows you there's a bunch of Q-Anon moms who 10 years ago would have just been Empaths and supported the Green Party. Facebook weaponized the people who would otherwise be telling each other about ionizing bracelets to spread stuff cooked up by right-wing think tanks but with the same gloss.

The second lol is the Bloc Quebecois which nothing to do with this Anglo bullshit.


>So… lol at two things. The first lol is the Green Party which shows you there's a bunch of Q-Anon moms who 10 years ago would have just been Empaths and supported the Green Party.
The New Age/Hippy to rightoid pipeline is real.


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Just got back from not wearing a mask at walmart while having covid. What's going on with the "freedom convoy" now, is it losing steam? Ive heard a lot of dumbass truckers used credit to buy gasoline just to keep going, and will end up in debt when it's over?


There are like 50 thousand truckers in Ottawa who have nowhere to take a shit and have no money to drive back. They are shitting all over the streets.


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You'd think they'd be smart enough to save their gas reserves and just park their shit in strategic areas like border roads or city streets, but evidently they're just wasting gasoline to make noise and going into credit card debt for it. Upper class people are so wasteful. I highly doubt any non-business owner trucker would really give a fuck about freedom of movement. Most of the freedom convoy is just demanding open borders with yanquistan.


This is an American culture war proxy event being astroturfed by US right wing groups. I hope Trudeau sends in the tanks on these faggots.


he won’t cuz he’s a cuck


Why don't people in Ottawa use the opportunity for some lulz fucking with the truckers
Set off fireworks and shit




so true


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Un guide pour aidé.


Nobody uses Damné anymore,or I've never heard it in my entire life and I'm biased.
Most of them are very easy to understand if you replace the french snippets with more familiar versions of the expression,it's nearly identical in the majority of them (4 of them are still unnintelligible without it,I will concede it)
also "move your ass" isn't AT ALL "Tasse-toi",wtf,it's "Bouge ton cul"


I might have spoken too soon. Here's a pretty right-wing Canadian journalist who's freaking out at what he thinks is a militant element (including Americans who hopped the border) that's ensconced itself in a secondary camp – apparently citing his "sources" in law enforcement. So take it with a lot of skepticism.

Still, the protesters are repeating a lot of the typical "color revolution" pattern, where you have a pissed-off minority which claims to speak for "the people" situate themselves outside the parliament, and then – if this is true – you have a more radical element attempt to escalate a violent confrontation with the state in the hope of collapsing the state and then allow a right-wing government backed by foreign money take power.

>Before I came to Ottawa, I spoke with a few people who were sympathetic to the protest: I was advised to stay away from this secondary encampment site, or at least to approach it with caution. I wasn’t feeling particularly heroic on Tuesday, but I figured it wouldn’t make sense to travel all the way from Toronto and then ignore one of the main sites. I drove over, parked my car nearby and walked the rest of the way to the parking lot.

>It was clear well before I even arrived that this was something different. There was absolutely no visible police presence. Not a single uniformed officer or marked cruiser. (Note my careful phrasing there: I have no doubt this place is under watch. Just not overtly.) This site, for lack of a better term, has been fortified. There are many trucks parked in the parking lot, but some of them have been arranged to form outer walls. These walls have been augmented with wooden sawhorses and what looked to me to be stacked pallets of some kind. There was an entrance with a tent marked Reception (see photo, below). I wish I could give you a better description of the site, or tell you what was inside, but as soon as I began to approach it on foot, someone very quickly fell into step behind me. A series of others, four or five, met me before I made it to the reception tent. We chatted briefly, and I got the distinct impression that it would be way, way better for me to be somewhere else. I left.

>They did not threaten me. Everybody was very polite and all smiles. But it was extremely clear to me that my presence was unwelcome. It was also clear to me that these people were organized. This is wildly different from the sites closer to Parliament. As I have written in the earlier dispatches, during the daytime, it’s something of a festival atmosphere along Wellington. At night, it is more grim and much more tense, but I still had no concerns or issues walking through the entire area. This encampment near the stadium?

>That was something else.

>Later that day, by chance, I found out that a friend of mine had been in town and had decided to go check it out for herself. She told me that she was able to get inside by slipping in with a larger group. Once she started taking pictures, she immediately began to be followed, and she was tailed until she left shortly thereafter. She wasn’t harmed or threatened, and agreed with my description of the residents as organized, polite, and very clear in their desire for you to leave. She had a much better view of the entire area, and reports that the perimeter was pretty secure. Where it wasn't, she said, there were small groups standing on guard. Her impression matched my own entirely: this group is disciplined, organized and on alert for outsiders.

>My encounter at the site intrigued me. I made some calls. My sources on the ground are pretty good in the sense of federal politics, but not great in terms of the local governance. Still, each call I made went similarly: the police are very much aware of the site, and they are very worried about the presence of a hard-right-wing, organized faction that isn't there to protest mandates and vaccine passports, but to directly create conflict with the government. This hard-right element probably includes some non-Canadians, here for the party. The broader complaints of the protesters are a cover for the group seeking open conflict. Most of the convoy protesters aren’t part of this smaller, nastier group, nor linked to it in any overt way. Many of them will think any concern about it at all is just some MSM lamestream media conspiracy.

>My government and security sources do not agree. What’s happening in Ottawa, they were clear, is two separate events happening in tandem: there is a broadly non-violent (to date) group of Canadians with assorted COVID-related gripes, ranging from the somewhat justified to totally frickin’ insane. But that larger group, which has knocked Ottawa and too many of our leaders into what my colleague Jen Gerson so perfectly described as “stun-fucked stasis,” is now providing a kind of (mostly) unwitting cover to a cadre of seasoned street brawlers whose primary goal is to further erode the legitimacy of the state — not just the city of Ottawa, or Ontario or Canada, but of democracies generally.

>Some of them are ideologues, others just grifters, but they’re real, and they’re in Ottawa. Maybe not in that parking lot. I certainly didn’t get the chance to take any names. But local officials know they’re out and about, and are worried that any move they make will trigger an incident that can easily result in dead cops, dead truckers and delighted far-right agitators.



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Seems a little alarming


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Are you guys against freedom?


it's from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_d7PXWNXLo

it's anglo oppression olympics again
05:30 trucker lady with a horn in his hands: plz move away, I have two scared kids in my car, think about the CHILDREN


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>Geographic distribution of CMAs [Canadian Mining Assets], 2020
>(1,348 companies with $273.4 billion in mining and mineral exploration assets)


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Reporting back from my first CPCa meeting last night. What I saw was actually pretty encouraging. There was no radlib bullshit, the meeting was very organized and focused on real issues like unionization drives, mutual aid projects, local elections, anti-war activities, etc. There was a fairly sophisticated division of labour with elected committees to deal with different issues and projects. There was talk of extensive collaboration with other orgs like the IWW and USW, the atmosphere seemed non-sectarian. The people there all seemed pretty committed and also focused on real issues, there was a big emphasis on embedding the party in the life of the community and driving the class struggle forwards in tangible ways. If the organizer I spoke to is to be believed the party in my area has been inundated with so many applications for membership that they are having a hard time keeping up, and in general the community has responded positively to the party's efforts instead of with knee-jerk anti-communism. Bros, is this what hope feels like?


muh people


Was this in Ottawa? I need to do something like this to stay busy this summer… This city sucks to get around in w/a wheelchair, esp in winter.


>Was this in Ottawa?
Somewhere much worse.


Judge orders truckers to end US-Canada border blockade
Judge orders truckers to end US-Canada border blockade


What about Quebec solidaire? They seem fairly good.


NDP is deader than any of them, has been since the 70s. Their only purpose is to pacify the union movement with parliamentarianism.
Also good luck doing entryism, since they still remember the Waffle faction very well. They have experience shutting down uppity little activists under their belt


Separatism is cringe.


>We have private sponsored colour revolutions now


>Reporting back from my first CPCa meeting last night.
I'm summoning the spirit of Norman Bethune to give you energy.

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ


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American dipshits jacking off the bourg truckers who can afford to take over 2 weeks off and drive across the country when truckers of a lower class who actually have to work got trapped in Montana for days thanks to the blockade.


>send in the tanks
As satisfying as it would be to do that it would be giftwrapping the whole ordeal for the right, a flashpoint event is the priority number one of the movements were going to see follow this, chinlet corpses on the streets would be christmas morning.


better than erotic literature


What would that do other than get more rightoids into the streets and in range of the tanks?


Have any of the communist groups in Canada no matter how big or small done an analysis or even written a small statement on the truckers ? would love tor read them if someone dont mind linking em.


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>Somewhere much worse.
What's fucking worse than Ottawa?! Oh anon no please don't tell me you're in, may Allah forgive me for typing this sequence of characters, Toronto?


please go back to reddit or /pol/


my experience was pretty bad, but i was in the group in 2016 and they were just weird toronto people


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how does it feel to pay $1200 a month to live in your cardboard box?


rent is gonna have to get pretty fucking high for me to live anywhere else in ontario over toronto, lol


Not quite that bad thank God.


>rent is gonna have to get pretty fucking high for me to live anywhere else in ontario over toronto, lol
Sounds like things are going good over in maple syrup land.



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Your days are numbered urb*nite.


meme potential


you should watch your language considering this isn't semi-feudal cambodia. canadian agriculture is completely unproductive and relies on "urb*nite" tax dollars and slave-tier wages to even run at all
in the words of pol pot himself, "to destroy you is no loss, to preserve you is no gain"


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>canadian agriculture is completely unproductive
It will be quite productive once we march you lot out to work in the fields at gunpoint.


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President Xi, the people of Ottawa yearn for freedom. It is the third week of occupation and the government does nothing. Their police and military have betrayed them, they beat them for wearing their traditional attire (N95s).

Please sir, may the mandate of heaven guide you to Ottawa's liberation. You are their last hope.


Lol literal foot soldiers of the government

They do it for free too


>President Xi, the people of Ottawa yearn for freedom. It is the third week of occupation and the government does nothing. Their police and military have betrayed them, they beat them for wearing their traditional attire (N95s).

>Please sir, may the mandate of heaven guide you to Ottawa's liberation. You are their last hope.


hehe funni meme shit ideology


>Lol literal foot soldiers of the government
That was the police who helped the occupiers deliver gas cans to their trucks. It seems the Canadian government has lost control of its own security forces who are rotten to the core with sympathizers who have gone over to the side of a color revolution instigated by American oligarchs. The queen also apparently has COVID fr now. It's time for a U.N.-mandated peacekeeping mission to intervene in the interest of regional security.


the problem with the convoy thing is the fact that its messaging and its reasoning for it happening in the first place is not even due to some of the shitty covid restrictions that have been implemented in the past and is more about fully reopening borders with the us, borders that are more or less probably some of the most free and open borders in the entire world, because of these free and open borders we have basically allowed the united states to gradually establishing monopolies controlled by american corporate interests, i would like to see canada actually have a more controlled border and control the amount of resources and capital that flows from canada to the united states instead of having a set up that basically attaches canada to the united states for better or worse (usually worse)



>It seems the Canadian government has lost control of its own security forces who are rotten to the core with sympathizers who have gone over to the side of a color revolution instigated by American oligarchs.
Idk if I would call it a colour revolution, but the silver lining is that the next time one happens abroad we can point to this as an example of what it actually looks/feels like for the ordinary people in the country.



This just proves that the Angl*sphere is irredeemable and is the true barrier to global communism.



I'm thinking these protests are going to result in some sweet riot porn



can someone QRD me on the trucking situation, i dont fully understand it


a bunch of petit bourgeois retards that represent like 25% of the population, crying about how they're the 'real working class'


Do you actually have an analysis as to why, or is this just edgy shitposting?


>colour revolution
its objectively not, colour revolutions all have two common characteristics
A) supported by the US
B) try to overthrough the state
these protests have none of these two characteristics of a colour rev, therfore they aren't one
>more about fully reopening borders with the us
except in reality they are blocking the boarder and POTUS is telling Tredoue to use force to stop them from blocking it


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the com party canada are liberals


wow what gave that away?


theyre liberals



In what way? I was just at a virtual meeting of theirs last night and have nothing negative to say.


effectively controlled by academics and careerists, 0 involvement in union drives, aimless politics, what aspect of them isn't deeply liquidationist and petty bourgeois?


>effectively controlled by academics and careerists, 0 involvement in union drives, aimless politics
None of that is true at my chapter.


what does your chapter have to do with the party’s politics as a whole?


The fact that there are plenty of capable, committed, and well organized party members obviously means that the party can make a positive contribution to the reconstruction of the proletarian movement in Canada. Plus there are basically no other options that aren't even more cucked or retarded ultras.


Huge red flag to be honest.


Trust me m8, they exist. I was part of a Maoist org that was basically incapable of getting anything done because they considered basically everybody around them revisionist sellouts for not wanting to start doing PPW right away.


i dont care about gonzaloite weirdos either, they have the exact same problems i listed out and some more


I'm getting tired of being in my party - seems like all we do are meetings and recruit people solely for the purpose of having them at meetings. How is everyone else's party activities going? How do you know when it's time to move on?


I was once in a party. I attended more than a few meetings and I even enjoyed talking to some of the people there. But I just knew nothing would come of it. I know that sounds pessimistic, but I don’t feel like the Leninist party structure is applicable to the world anymore. Given the surveillance state as well as mass media, I feel like the energies of a party are just going to go towards polemicising and doing partyish stuff. Maybe my party just sucked idk, but I feel like this is an almost universal problem in most socialist parties, especially in the US. All I can say is if you like the people there, then you should stay, just having people around that share your outlook is a valuable thing in today’s world, and something might come of it, something might not. Unfortunately recruitment is pretty much the only action that can be taken given how all encompassing the state is these days.


i love ontario but im thinking of moving out west for jobs



I am usually to do shit and pretty have no fucking meetings and discussions. Granted it is a succdem/demsucc party not in the West but I do wish the gen Xers would talk about anything else other than their fucking children all the time.


So is elected Canadian leftism dead for the next 4 years now? Longer? Jagmeet Singh has gone from finger-waving at Trudeau but supporting him where it counts to an outright signed agreement guaranteeing support for Liberalism.

The cynic in me says there were too many within the party making unhappy noises about the direction but now the whip is further empowered. There is no need to have an honest discussion of merits or provide reasoning when party leadership can point to that piece of paper and whatabout the deal for a handful of future policies the party sold its soul for.


I wonder how successful a populist-leftist that plays sides of supporting the working man while simultaneously giving light appeals to "them libturd" types would be?
Party policy could be "increasing strictness of immigration laws", but also saying "higher wages for immigrants". It could do a two-pronged solution; bringing in less migrants, while giving less reason for people in third-world nations to migrate, as the wealth in their country is increased. Everyone would probably see it as a major benefit.


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>Everyone would probably see it as a major benefit.
<Century Initiative is upset they do not count as part of everyone.

Any sort of rational thought on immigration programs and plans has been thrown to the ground, abandoned for the PPC to pick up the pieces and be either ignored completely or attacked for extreme racism when they get the barest amount of media attention at all.

A left wing party would fare worse.

There is an interest in Canada that things should be run a certain way and it is so powerful that neither the Liberals, Conservatives, nor NDP dared to speak in ways that could be contrary to it, the past election, or for some time before. The Conservative take on Canada's Liberal media is dumb but because it's too naïve. Rather than a partisan ideology, there's more of a meta-ideology that oversees major publications both left and right-leaning limiting the concerns and conclusions that count as worthy enough to be discussed at all. Meanwhile they'll trot out and prop up NAFTA, GST, and brown-paper-bags Mulroney as a sober respected thought leader to one-sidedly push the Century Initiative's view.

It's not just the media either, but a multitude of Canadian institutions. The unimpeachable dogma of Canada's board member class basically. Maybe as individuals they lie to themselves that they are good people who care about the plight of immigrants in Canada but in the clear systemic effects that result they obviously don't.


A socialist party that dropped the SJW crap would definitely be successful, especially taking an agnostic position on queer issues. Immigrants are a little trickier, since it's a sensitive subject for a lot of more conservative minded workers but a genuine socialist party couldn't well abandon them without compromising its core purpose. Personally though I don't think there is anything wrong with a position that is anti-immigration but pro-immigrant, ie supporting more restrictive immigration but supporting the rights of migrants who are already here. In my experience (working in a steel mill) the stereotypical white male labour aristocrat in Canada has a general hostility to migrant labour as a concept, but is actually pretty accepting of immigrants as individuals. Like, if I asked my coworkers how they felt about immigration they would probably express negative attitudes, but the truck drivers who deliver materials to the mill are overwhelmingly South Asian and most people seem to get along with them just fine.


Picrel's source is CIBC by the way. You can pick any of our banks and find publications touting similar lines. Immigrants valued for economic stimulus, resolving "labour shortages" holding back growth, other claims that were they and their premises true, would resolve themselves but instead need business and finance to push down on the scale because of capitalism's contradictions, etc.


>a genuine socialist party couldn't well abandon them without compromising its core purpose
Poorly planned out immigration at the scale that Canada is currently operating abandons last year's immigrants in favour of this year's contribution to goosing the GDP number to keep the debt payment/GDP ratio looking pretty. The Liberals force wages down and house prices up and many new immigrants are stuck underemployed and in basement suites.

Refugees are planned to get the short end of the stick too. Down 20% while economic immigrants double.

>Personally though I don't think there is anything wrong with a position that is anti-immigration but pro-immigrant

Me neither but that discussion is pseudo-officially verboten.

>the stereotypical white male labour aristocrat in Canada has a general hostility to migrant labour as a concept, but is actually pretty accepting of immigrants as individuals.

Is the problem that Canadians have forgotten how to organize things ourselves and learn things on our own? We wait for columnists to publish propaganda that sounds nice to our ears, for a nice looking politician to vote for, or for corporate union structures to take care of things following their rules set up by government and business. Even on issues that have massive and ongoing public agreement, like our telecoms acting as a cartel that needs to be reigned in, those very clear opinion polls never turn into effective policy.


> how successful a populist-leftist that plays sides of supporting the working man while simultaneously giving light appeals to "them libturd" types would be?
Even more unpopular than the alternative. You seemed to be under the delusion that the masses are free capable for having and acting on their preferences. But they are helpless and victims of the superstructure and the institutions that feeds them information, entertainment, education and interaction.

The question is not can a left wing party triangulate its positions to fit the masses, but can a left wing party shape the masses to fit its positions (whether by praxis, culture jamming, superior theory etc etc)


take the west-pill
ontario and quebec are part of the imperial core and thus incapable of revolution/militancy outside of indigenous communities


Ontario election heating up. Progressive Conservatives have been leading in most polls since 2018 and especially all of the recent ones, with Liberals taking the lead in most of the other polls, NDP leading in only 2 of them (Angus Reid in January 12, 2022 and Pollara in May 1, 2019). Kind of bleak.


Why do liberals larp with guillotines? Don't they know the French revolution was a bourgeois uprising against the aristocracy?


Ford has decadent aristocrat vibes


suce mon gros pen



they still act like it was an act against the "decadent elites"


frankly i don’t think toronto has enough leftist orgs that completely ignore workplace organizing for dumb bullshit


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milquetoast petty bourgeois shit
still has conservacucks spaz'ing out in the comments


>Ontario Federation of Labour
>On May 1, 2022, join the province-wide day of action for a better Ontario.
>May 1, or May Day, is the traditional workers’ holiday, a day that working people celebrate the gains they have won over the years and commit to fighting for a better future for everyone.
>In over 20 locations across Ontario, we’re planning local rallies, marches, and other events to mark the day of action.
>It’s time for a $20 minimum wage, decent work, affordable housing, paid sick days, well-funded public services, livable income support for all, climate justice, status for all, and an end to racism and oppression. Join us!

>La Convergence des luttes anticapitalistes (CLAC)
>Dernier rappel 1er mai anticapitaliste 2022, ce dimanche, 17h à la Place du "Canada"


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Most of them are probably PMCs, aka proletarians according to the PMC fags who post here.

Based homeless people making life a living hell for the scum who make life a living hell for them.


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I had a dream about Tim Hortons last night and now conservatives are starting a meme outrage trend about it



Efforts to unionize Amazon workers in Canada ramp up in Ontario as Teamsters target Hamilton
Unionization efforts are underway at Amazon sites across Canada, including in Montreal and Alberta, where the Teamsters union has an application for a second unionization at an Amazon site near Edmonton.
Killey said news of a recent union vote by Amazon workers at the Staten Island facility in New York City "sparked a lot" of interest in Canada.
A second vote on unionization failed earlier this month, a setback for organizers at the Staten Island site.
Gray, the labour studies professor, said one of the biggest challenges for people looking to unionize at Amazon locations is the "massive amount of turnover" each plant tends to see.
The New York unionization drive provides lessons for Canadian efforts, including that the organizers were co-workers or people known by staff at the warehouse, he said.
Third parties, such as established unions, should take that as a sign to build relationships over time so employees get a sense it's a "genuine collective voice of the workers themselves, not a group coming in from the outside," said Gray.

Poilievre’s attacks on Bank of Canada echo Coyne affair of six decades ago
The last time a federal government tangled with Canada’s central bank was in the period from 1959 to 1961, in what has become known as the Coyne Affair.
Progressive Conservative and prairie populist John Diefenbaker, member of parliament for Prince Alberta, Saskatchewan, was prime minister at the time.
In response to an economic slowdown, his government was pursuing a policy of stimulus, running deficits in order to stimulate growth. The then-Governor of the Bank of Canada, James Coyne, did not approve, and said so bluntly, both in private and in public.
Diefenbaker’s finance minister Donald Fleming wanted Coyne to join the government’s anti-recession efforts by lowering interest rates, but the Governor flatly refused. He believed Canadians were living beyond their means and had to tighten their belts.
In the end, the Progressive Conservative majority in the House of Commons passed a motion declaring the Governor’s position vacant, in effect firing Coyne. The Senate refused to go along, but Coyne resigned nonetheless. Maclean’s magazine made him Man of the Year for 1961.
Poilievre’s case against the current Governor is the opposite of Diefenbaker’s vis-à-vis Coyne. Poilievre has not spelled out his position clearly, but he seems to want the Bank of Canada to focus solely on inflation, regardless of economic circumstances.
If a tanking economy might call for measures to keep businesses going and people employed, that’s none of the Bank’s business, Poilievre seems to be saying.

Ottawa doubling icebreaker orders as one ship goes to Quebec yard, another to Vancouver
The Trudeau government is adding a second heavy icebreaker to its plans for the Canadian Coast Guard, a move that will boost the shipbuilding industry in two key provinces for the Liberals — and which could come at a hefty cost to taxpayers.
Liberal cabinet ministers announced Thursday the government has doubled the number of heavy icebreakers it will build over the next decade, with Vancouver’s Seaspan Shipyards and Quebec-based Chantier Davie being given one each.
Fisheries Minister Bernadette Jordan said the addition of a second vessel reflected the changing conditions in Canada’s increasingly accessible Arctic. Splitting the work between two yards, she added, was a prudent move to ensure both vessels arrive on time.
The surprise announcement followed nearly two years of questions — and intense lobbying from the shipyards — over Ottawa’s plans for the CCGS John G. Diefenbaker.
Senior civil servants, speaking at a briefing provided on condition of anonymity, did acknowledge, however, that the cost will exceed the previous $1.3-billion estimate for the Diefenbaker alone, which was first established in 2012 and has been under review for several years.
“As northern waterways become more accessible, some countries are trying to encroach on our sovereignty by signaling their economic interest in a region that may be rich in untapped natural resources,” Environment Minister Jonathan Wilkinson said.
“So we simply can’t put a price on the value of Canada maintaining its Arctic presence.”

Nunavut Impact Review Board advises federal cabinet turn down Nunavut mine expansion
A proposed mine expansion in North Baffin Island has received a “no go” recommendation from a vital Nunavut regulatory body and the fate of Phase 2 of the Mary River Iron Ore mine rests with the federal cabinet.
Early Friday evening, the Nunavut Impact Review Board released its recommendation on whether the Mary River Iron mine should be allowed to double its output.
That increase in production is vital to the mine’s existence, according to Baffinland Iron Ore company, the mine owner’s.
In a letter to the federal cabinet, NIRB chairperson Kavik Kaluraq cited environmental concerns as the major reason for the decision, citing “adverse ecosystem effects on marine animals and fish, caribou and other terrestrial wildlife” both in Nunavut and “outside the Nunavut Settlement area.”
The final decision rests in Ottawa, as the federal cabinet can choose to accept, reject, or send back the NIRB opinion.
Baffinland has stated publicly that it would consider closing down the mine if it could not increase production.
Baffinland also says that more than 300 Inuit work at the mine.


Nationwide abortion bill would backfire in Canada as it did in the U.S., experts say
If Canada were to give more control to its provinces over abortion, the country would likely see a divide that mimics the States, according to Sonia Lawrence, professor at York University’s Osgoode Hall Law School.
“We would see differences between provinces and we would see really different kinds of political fights, particularly in some of the more conservative provinces,” Lawrence told Global News.
Although abortion is decriminalized in Canada, access can still be difficult and pregnant people are regularly referred to the U.S. for more complex abortions they cannot get here.
“The legal status of abortion is only one part of the picture in terms of the factors that contribute to how accessible abortion or how safe abortion is. And in that sense, when we’re talking about the status of abortion in a given country, it’s not just about the legislative status,” Lara Cousins, women’s rights specialist in sexual and reproductive rights at Oxfam Canada, told Global News.
“The access issue is one that we really need to be doing a lot better on and one in which we still have a far way to go just because we’ve fallen short in terms of really addressing the geographical barriers in relation to abortion access and the funding in relation to abortion access,” she said.
Cousins pointed to provinces like Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario, where many abortion providers are located in urban centres while 35 to 40 per cent of the population live in rural communities, according to Action Canada for Sexual Health and Rights.

Eight miners enter fourth week trapped in flooded Canadian-owned mine in West Africa
Trevali is a global zinc producer with three “revenue-generating” mines in Canada, Burkina Faso and Namibia, according to its website. Mined zinc is often used in the galvanizing process to protect iron and steel from rusting, but can also be used to make bronze or be added to fertilizer.
An update posted to the site hints at the work underway to attempt to reach the eight workers, including rebuilding five kilometres of rough underground road and the installation of 24 electric and diesel pumps to remove the water. In addition to local groups such as the Burkina Faso National Fire Brigade, the mine has also received offers of assistance from Morocco and the European Union.
Questions remain about the history of the mine and the degree to which management was ready for such an event, says Jamie Kneen, a spokesperson for MiningWatch Canada, an Ontario-based NGO that pushes for better environmental and human rights records in the Canadian mining industry, which also dominates extraction around the world.
The majority of international companies are based in Canada, and the only regulation they face is from local authorities, Kneen said.
“The jury’s out on how this happened,” he said. “From an engineering standpoint, if you’re a mining company, you have a pretty good idea of what the potential worst-case scenarios are, and whether you invest in the backup systems to deal with those emergencies is a management decision.”
He pointed to the number of pumps being installed to remove water from the mine shafts: “They’re bringing in extra pumps, which means they didn’t have them on hand,” he said.

Killings of unhoused people by Canadian cops: Policing as poor bashing
Police are state instruments of class violence, and are indispensable to the maintenance of capitalism. There are few ways in which that violence is deployed more forcefully, viciously, and regularly than against unemployed and unhoused people. This is not surprising given that the function of policing is to protect property, maintain property relations and to secure labor markets for exploitation.
Violence against unhoused people has been on full display in the police assaults on encampments of unhoused people in virtually every city in Canada, in street sweeps where cities steal people’s belongings, and in poor bashing laws like so-called “safe streets” acts that criminalize survival labors and economies (panhandling, squeegeeing, street markets, sex work, etc.).
Far from promoting safety, these police actions all put people’s lives at risk. The Canadian police have an awful history of deploying lethal force against our unhoused neighbors, and have killed numerous people over the last few years. And these killings show the same colonial and racialized character as policing itself.

Alberta unemployment rate shrinks, but it's not all good news
Despite a shrinking unemployment rate, it's not all good news in terms of jobs in the province, according to Trevor Tombe, a professor of economics at the University of Calgary.
Looking at the data, he said about one in three unemployed Albertans have been unemployed for more than six months straight.
"That's a much higher share than we see in any other province. And so we do have this unique challenge of having a lot of long-term unemployed workers," Tombe said.
He said this data may point to there being particular challenges for some unemployed workers looking to shift into other occupations or sectors.
"Workers displaced from oil and gas in particular, especially in support roles and especially during the recession, were disproportionately younger, lower education, individuals that might have a tougher time finding work in other sectors," he said.

Statement: Summit of Peoples Affected by Pan American Silver
Since Pan American Silver’s arrival to our countries, our communities have been stripped of our rights, criminalised, persecuted, and have faced violence. We have been rendered invisible through the company’s corrupt practices and methods of imposing resource extraction by colluding with political authorities and limiting our access to justice. All of this is evidence of a pattern of corporate behaviour and operational tactics used systematically to establish themselves in our regions.
In Argentina, since 2009, the company has been manipulating the three branches of the provincial government – the executive, the legislative and the judiciary – to develop the Navidad project. Its methods are based in corruption and the constant harassment of the communities of the plateau (meseta) of the province.
In Guatemala, the company acquired the Escobal mine in 2019, which had been suspended after nine years of historical and peaceful resistance – just like in Argentina – and in full knowledge of the human rights violations caused by the company in alliance with previous governments.
In Peru, after operating the Quiruvilca project for more than 18 years and facing mine closure, Pan American Silver offloaded its project and its responsibility, leaving the environmental liabilities as a form of development for the communities.
In Mexico, since 1998, a mine has been imposed on the community of La Colorada. By causing destruction and division, the company accomplish its goal between 2014 and 2017 of demolishing homes and entirely dispossessing the community that inhabited the territory. This twisted process has resulted in changing the very geographic references, literally wiping the community from the map.
From company documents, we know that Pan American Silver is betting its future on the expansion of the La Colorada project and advancements of the projects currently halted by widespread resistance: Navidad and Escobal. For this reason, we declare the company responsible for anything that might happen to us through the course of our actions in defence of Mother Earth. We demand that the governments of Argentina, Mexico, Peru and Guatemala guarantee the security of their peoples and uphold their rights to self-determination. This includes their right to determine the kinds of productive activities that each community wishes to pursue according to their culture, history and beliefs.
Our exchanges at the Summit have revealed that our struggles are not isolated: the company and our governments share patterns of behaviour that include corruption, coercion, extortion, disinformation, the buying off of people and the media, repression and militarisation of territories, forced displacement of communities, human rights violations, violations of the rights of Indigenous communities, harms to the environment and our health, and the evasion of fiscal, tributary, environmental and labour responsibilities. All of these actions are hidden behind pretty words and images.
The fact that our communities have now unified against the same invader allows us to strengthen the networks of support, resistance and communication. In this way, we can articulate ourselves as peoples in defence of our territories threatened by extractivist companies like Pan American Silver, because we know that Pan American Silver finances, with the suffering of some, mine development and dispossession elsewhere.


Surprised that no one here talks about Jason Kenney, who is like Ralph Klein. Funny enough, I was speaking to an old lady who lives in the rural areas of Alberta and he reminds her of Klien, she really hates both. She worked as a nurse until Klein laid her off. She hates both the conservatives and Liberals.
If someone like that is very disillusioned about politics, I suspect many more people are.


some healthcare types seem pretty jaded by electoralism
i remember an old orthopedic surgeon brought up how parties just like to talk or something like that almost unprompted during smalltalk


Bump. Which crop of smug fuck humanities majors will Ontario decide get to rule this miserable shithole for the next 4 years? Find out this June 2nd.


i'm vooting NDP for dentalcare and rent control


Debating voting for Ford. Making teachers and nurses suffer sounds like a good deal to me.


I will personally come to your house and cover your floor in individual lego pieces
Ayyyyy I got that fucking article, it's fun reading the Sun if you pretend it's a satire newspaper.


is ford even gonna stand a chance? the conservative vote is split four ways


He's ahead in the polls.


yeah so was kathleen wynne around the start of polling


>Commies defile Queen… with Guillotine
a man can dream


>conservative vote is split four ways


It's a bit infuriating. I remember the first 2 years of his term was full of nothing but fuck ups but he got a massive break with COVID in all he did was sit back and do nothing and got praise because he didn't do an Alberta and go full lolbert. I mean he still fucked up the COVID response but somehow people think he did well because the standard is stuff like the UK, or the US so even Ford's response looked amazing in comparison despite ignoring most medical advice.

People forgetting the fact he failed every one of his mandates(Buck a beer, lower Hydro, I mean ffs he fucked up the sex-ed, so even the far-right voters should hate him for that) because what people know of him now is a "Just watch me moment" with declaring a state of emergency for those truckers before Justin did.
Murphy's law fren. Polls in our favour are always wrong(or well in Wynne's favour ew) and polls against us are always right. I mean fuck if you told me a proper socialist had a 99% chance to win I'd say it's at best 50/50 they actually win.



The one thing that unites conservatives the world over is hypocrisy. I mean liberals do the same but conservative hypocrisy is a fucking art. A liberal could stumble and the conservatives will claim it's from them murdering an invisible child in their path, whereas if footage showed a conservative murdering a woman in the streets they'd argue it's just a bad camera angle. And I think the scariest fact is their voters eat that shit up. Seeing the literal coping from conservative outlets hurts my brain. I've seen them defending defunding the healthcare by saying the Healthcare is government and government is communism unironically.


I also think that there's 2 factors hurting the NDP. 1: Horwath is an unlikable bitch who won't let the leadership be taken from her cold dead hands. 2: Vietnam flashbacks to Bob Rae who introduced austerity measures that make Mike Harris blush and generally made half the NDP leave from how much of a hack he was.


Started interacting somewhat with the NDP this year and I’m honestly baffled how their electorate puts up with all of the patronizing smugness. They don’t wanna touch their electorate with a 10 foot pole, and when they have to you can tell they see it as a painful obligation. Also their local candidate here is a little small business owner. Like what.




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The modern NDP is dominated by various strata of labour aristocrats and petty booj, and a lot of their active campaigning is directed at these groups. There is a small radical current (mostly Trots) trying to do entryism but they aren't very effective. It really seems like whatever connections they do have among the broader masses of workers are both heavily mediated by yellow unions, and also largely leftovers from their more radical CCF days.


Yep that's them down to a T. I mean their main TV ad rn says "Our plan to pay for stuff is by asking those at the top to pay just a little bit more :)" instead of just being blunt and saying even something as mundane as "Tax the rich". Like jesus fuck they seem afraid to say even the most moderately leftist ideas. "Social programmes? We prefer the term employment backing packages :)", "Raise the minimum wage? Actually we're simply keeping up with inflation :)". FFS even when they have the right idea they do it in such a round-about fashion that comes off as patronizing.

Bring back Tommy please NDP. Raise him from his fucking grave so he can strangle your liberal necks for besmirching what little honour socdems have. It's not a lot to begin with but it's a lot more than you have now.


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There’s no need for nostalgia. The old socialist leaders had just as many flaws, really.


Sure, they were still socdems after all but let's not act like that's basically the same as the pseudo-liberal bullshit the NDP panders to these days. The CCF and early NDP made clear the economic system is rigged against the poor, there's no way in hell the modern NDP would consider such a radical notion. Capitalism? Flawed? Never.


I doubt they would be polling so high if they did do that…


>The CCF and early NDP made clear the economic system is rigged against the poor, there's no way in hell the modern NDP would consider such a radical notion.
they do though, and it’s not very radical it’s just standard populism


I think they'd get more votes if they wore their heart on their sleeve. Currently 70% of Ontarians can't tell the difference between the rhetoric of the NDP and Liberals, the only reason NDP is doing better than Liberals this time is due to Wynne last time and also the Liberals have a literal "Who?" as their leader. Go on name the Liberal candidate right now, I dare you. No searching it up.
They literally don't though. They dodge around it at every opportunity. They spout nonsense about how the way to fix everything is 'responsible spending', investing more in Healthcare and education(I mean points for effort I guess if by accident), and tax breaks for SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WTF. They never mention anything about capitalism on a provincial level. Singh mentions it a bit in the federal NDP but like how you said about appealing to the millennial push away from debt and whatnot but even there it's passing.


The Italian guy, Del Luca. I saw a recent ad by the NDP that was basically the mouse analogy in spirit, they’ve been ramping up their attacks on the Liberals as well as PCs which I guess is something.


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Do you not understand how social democracy works or something? The point is not to get elected, it's to divert left wing feeling from any actual useful activity and waste it by continually failing to get elected. And if they actually did get elected, they would cockblock everyone by just doing austerity anyway. They don't give a fuck about you.


Depends. They can be considered in strategy, however strategy requires a communist movement for it in the first place which uuuuuuuhhhhhgggggggfffffffffddd


How did NDP do in Alberta and BC when they were elected recently?


Social democracy could be useful in theory, but glowies and porkies have had like 50 years since Reaganomics to defang and destroy any actually subversive mainstream party


>The Italian guy, Del Luca
I like how you put that lmao and it's actually Del Duca, but I'm not going to get petty over it since that's more than close enough than I expected. Better late than never with those ads then I guess but they still seem…. wishy washy to me. They don't even have the spine to stand by teachers and nurses, which would be free fucking votes with how Ford's treated them but they seem resolute and trying to swing ancaps for some reason.
You could say that about any party in western democracy m8, I prefer being specifically critical of their individual actions and policies than use a blanket statement of them being a petty bourg red herring. Cause if we did that the alternative is to boycott the electoral vote or vote for one of the many many splits of the CPC that all have somehow ended up as Trotskyists and honestly I'd prefer masturbating naked in the street to that. Probably swing the vote just as much too. We've got a fucking catch 22 going on here; any even socialist party in a western democracy is inherently not socialist, yet in order to move past that we need a socialist system we need a socialist party in charge which we can only do by voting them in and on and on and so the only option in the end is revolution in order to get anything done like a proper organized movement, which makes any electoral effort in vain which I view as fucking stupid. Not because it's wrong, a revolution is 100% the only way to go but I think it's stupid because we have even less of a chance of a revolution than Lenin's corpse being elected premier.

So that's why I'm voting NDP because it doesn't matter. None of it matters.
Terrible lmao, Alberta NDP were basically the Conservatives by another name with an even bigger fixation on oil. BC was BC take a wild fucking guess what happened.


I tried contacting YCL-LJC but I had no luck, should I consider joining the CPC?


I'd suggest instead attaching a car battery to your balls, it'll be less painful. I'm only half joking.



I'm not saying you shouldn't vote for the NDP, a social democratic party in power is marginally better than a right wing one, but just don't get emotionally invested or put any time into it, and don't ask questions like 'ugh why don't they do X thing' because they're there to serve as controlled opposition not actually change anything.



Almost $800 million for a woke museum, but they can't fix healthcare, housing or lower food costs for workers.


>big expansion of public work that serves the entire province shouldn’t be financed because other public stuff happen to exist
>oh also i’ll call it “woke” in case the last bit didn’t get your austerity juices flowing enough
50 torybux have been deposited in your account


Woke has become the modern equivilent of judeo-bolshevik. Don't like something? Call it woke. What does Woke even mean? Uh anti-imperialist or liberal or somming other.

In all seriousness, outside of twitter I've only ever seen the word 'woke' used by politicians caught in the act of something naughty, Best example is Macron saying "Woke-ism" is a threat to France's history. Yeah maybe cause you were colonial scumbags that butchered the population of your colonies after they fought WW2 in your stead you fucking revisionists piece of shit. And he said that after he got caught on tape debating whether to allow the police to open fire on a muslim migrant camp with artillery. I think Elon Musk did it recently too when he said the Dems would come after him for not being woke 4 hours before the story broke that he sexually assaulted one of his employees. Classic.

Anything that has "Woke" in it these days immediately make my eyes glass over since I know the opinion its supporting is worthless.


Hahaha you are voting for the Liberals…aren’t you? No need to be loyal towards socdems.


Why would anybody ever vote Liberal?


expanding OHIP, decent chances of winning, not neo-fascist Tories, actual chance at ending austerity hell, etc
if that doesn’t convince you, then, hey, they even use the colour red just like China! don’t be an ultra, baizuo 😒


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>actual chance at ending austerity hell


>decent chances of winning
All the polls show conservatives winning a majority, and rightly so, Liberals ruined their reputation in Ontario
If they do it will only be because they sell off more state assets


? they’ve consistently been against austerity and muh deficit rhetoric
>rightly so
go back


They literally don't even have party status, they have half the numbers of the NDP m8. Sucdems may be bad but so are literal liberals.


They still hold a larger proletarian electorate than the NDP or any other party for that matter, and voting patterns have consistently shown they’re who people vote for against the PCs. It’s not the useless NDP. And apart from that there’s no distinction. If you’re gonna vote, might as well cast it towards them.


>they’ve consistently been against austerity
They said they wanted to stop climate change too, that didn't stop them from paying $4B for a failing pipeline. They said they wanted constructive relations with Indigenous people, that didn't stop them from sending the Mounties in armed to the teeth. Both Liberals and Tories lie more easily than most people breath.


What fucking crack are you on? The only people that vote Liberal are the fucking suburbs, AKA the most petit bourg, while the poorest downtown areas always go NDP.
Don't forget the 3 different coal plants they wanted to build under Wynne.


Liberal strongholds are generally distributed in both the inner city and industrial suburbs. NDP strongholds are in inner/pre-war suburbs and smaller to medium sized cities. Conservative strongholds are rural of course.


> I mean fuck if you told me a proper socialist had a 99% chance to win I'd say it's at best 50/50 they actually win.
What are the odds that if it looks like they (an actual proper socialist working in the best interests of Canadians) might actually win they get an unfortunate visit from the CIA and die of a heart attack or cancer within a couple of months or something else along those lines?


>constructive relations with Indigenous people
Read: even fuller integration of indigenous governance systems into the westminster-derived institutions of Canada with a side of token resource jobs in reserves where that applies
FFS the Bloc was the only one with a good take last election. Everyone else was mouthing "partnerships" as though collaborator government aligned with a foreign culture to one's own is unquestionably a good thing.


Ah, the post with funny implications
A classic genre on this website


That's a highly biased view of "woke".
Woke is insane feminists wanting female body parts renamed just because they were discovered by men. Or historical revisionism, especially involving indigenous/first nations that is literally "noble savages of nature",that is heavily promoted by neoliberals.

Woke also includes all race/gender/sexuality grifters who just want money and power and will create huge amounts of hot air, all for stealing money from gullible guilty people.


Easy, abolish the reserves, abolish the Indian status, abolish all tax money given to them because of their race and integrate them into the provinces.


> "Indigenous Governance System"

So hereditary chiefs, something even more reactionary then the fucking British Monarchy?
Fuck that, and you seriously call yourself a Marxist?


>Complains about someone's verison of woke being biased
>Gives own biased account of being woke


stfu, you haven’t even read marx if you think we should support bourgeois democracy as something progressive


Did some canvassing with the Communist Party yesterday in some working class areas of my town. Actually got a generally positive reception, a few people expressing serious interest, nobody really openly hostile. Most people were just basically polite but I can tell they weren't super interested, but honestly that is to be expected. I recently read the Autobiography of Malcolm X, and he talks about how 90% of the time when he approached people on Harlem trying to get them interested in NOI, he would have no luck. Even among people who attended meetings and rallies he found that only a small fraction would actually get involved with the org further. Keep in mind that this was in 1960s Harlem, when most people in that community were living under far worse conditions than most of the people we're trying to reach. Despite this, NOI grew to be one of the largest Black Nationalist groups in the US, iirc it peaked at something like 50,000 members, a number I'm sure we would all be thrilled to see in a communist party. There's a lot of doomposting in these threads, but I think we need to remember that this is a marathon not a sprint, rebuilding our movement is going to take a while lot of hard work and drudgery, but if the conditions are there, and we put in the hours, we will be successful. We need to focus on building a presence in working class areas, becoming pillars of these communities and their most vocal and resolute advocates. We need to find out what issues they are facing and work to alleviate them here and now. Honestly housing and gas prices are obvious low hanging fruit right now, we should be organizing rent strikes and gas boycotts. I highly recommend to everybody to join their nearest communist organization, whether that's CPC, CPC-ML, IMT, etc. What's important at this stage is that we are out there fighting the little battles we're capable of fighting, and if we can win some of those, we will eventually be able to fight larger battles.


So you support reactionary hereditary chiefs?
Marx never supported that you mongoloid woke scold.

Honestly moving to the USA is getting more and more attractive, Canada is going to hell in a hand basket.


go to your home in nantucket


>So hereditary chiefs, something even more reactionary then the fucking British Monarchy?
That's your brain on CBC. They aren't the champions of indigenousness they pretend to be. Not at all. CBC reporters are as subject to 24/7 clickbait chasing and fast articles and writing to advance their personally favoured narrative as anyone else these days. It's easier to wield natives as a cudgel than to spend the time to seek understanding.

Here's a more thorough explanation of what the Wet'suwet'en systems of government actually look like.


>Seething from Wokescold intensifies


> Hereditary voting
> Making specific family members vote on behalf of the entire family
> "Fully democratic" based on race
> Gives far too much power to families

Fuck that, i'd rather have 1 vote per person.
I don't want personal family bullshit dictate public policy. This also ignores if enough family members have certain interests that they can pressure their "representative" to vote to protect those interests.

This is just making corruption more local.


who are you quoting



Look honestly western values have been a disaster for indigenous communities, just let them do what they want. Maybe if we actually fix the rest of the world we can revisit the idea of meddling with natives.


Meltdown June more like. Every time my skin touches a surface, a small puddle forms on it. Meanwhile frost advisories across the prairies provinces and Atlantic Canada, tornadoes and thunderstorm across northern Ontario, winter storms in northern Manitoba. https://weather.gc.ca/warnings/index_e.html


>muh western values
please take this mystifying BS to reddit or /pol/ or somewhere in that ballpark


Point is why do you think 'nooooo we will impose our culture on the natives but good this time'. Just leave them alone for fucks sake.


settler-colonialism is more than "cultural"


ok whatever, you get my point, stop nitpicking


and no actual native believes in this dumb isolationism


Aren't the politically active native groups for self-determination and indigenous rights?


that has nothing to do with leaving them alone
they just don't want to live in lower-than-abject poverty anymore


Sure but that situation has come about partially from successive governments for hundreds of years eroding what little rights natives still had once the USA/Canada finished fully annexing North America. If their original autonomy had been respected they would probably be in a much better position.


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I hope all Ontario fags voted Communist today.


Not an option in most ridings.


If I thought voting mattered and hence bothered to do it, I'd probably vote for the liberals because they actually have a chance to win


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Electoralism? In my /leftypol/?


How do you expect lesser evilism to contribute to the growth of the communist movement in Canada?
I suppose we could just do drugs in an abandoned building like the average anarchoid instead.


why is a CPCanada shill browbeating people that don’t want to vote in a shitty parliamentary election?


Because electoralism is an important component of building a communist movement. It allows us a platform to build publicity and spread our ideas, and if you actually win seats in the legislature it gives you a position to actually defend working class interests.


nah you aren’t doing shit at all, which is why you’re spouting this nonsense
anyways im voting liberal if i ever pop around at a local polling station in the next couple of hours


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Imagine accusing somebody of not doing anything while voting Liberal.


>im voting liberal
Did this just now. Maybe if we had proportional representation I could be bothered to virtue signal via electoralism but until then I'll stick to gardening


Most of the polls in most districts reported as I type this. PC majority guaranteed. Well, that’s that.


Watch the NDP not take a hint from this and stop being timid petty bourgeois libs. They’ll probably even keep Horwath around as leader.


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>another thunderstorm
mother nature is angry
inb4 I am forced to read books again, why even live
Anyone else noticing this crazy weather?


check the weather and its gettin real oppy outside


thunderstorm in the sarnia and parry sound area and heat waves throughout southwestern ontario rn


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Apparently we're hosting the FIFA world cup in 2026? I dont care for soccer but I'm curious what their plan is for the venue. Upgrade BMO field?
Been nothing but rain for us this summer, it feels like April/May weather and we're well into June. It's actually pretty nice minus the three days we lost power last month


A bunch of cities across North America are hosting the 2026 World Cup, including Vancouver
Not sure why it's all of North America, only Mexico really cares that much about soccer


>Not sure why it's all of North America, only Mexico really cares that much about soccer
Probably because US and Canada put in a good bid and they're trying to raise interest in soccer.


They won't raise interest in it here. People don't give a shit about FIFA, and Toronto especially is more of a basketball and baseball type city


>inb4 I am forced to read books again
you should be reading books anyways


id tell all of you westerners to come move to atlantic canada, but also, fuck off we're full


>2/3 of the population is absentee half the year in their central American winter homes
>Most of the rest are dying old people and young people that haven't run away yet
I would probably be a little more humble


how u not mention Hockey talking about toronto sports


Hockey along with Rugby and the American kind of football are bigger outside of the GTA I think
Idek, idk too much about mass sports culture


>how u not mention Hockey talking about toronto sports
They're the Maple Laffs for a reason anon. VIVE LES GLORIEUX!



tronomans thoughts?


this is like An Empty Bliss Beyond This World for someone that grew up in the GTA in the 2000s


Probably because the Leafs have not won a single playoff series since Matts Sundin got sent to Vancouver.




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Why are so many American political pundits from KKKanada? Especially right wingers


who the fuck knows


This is why I live in downtown Toronto and rent from a property management company that gets stuff done and doesn't call the cops on me.


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They're preparing a warlord clique to take over after the collapse.


nationality is a ruse, it's probably even more flimsy and flexible than like race or ethnicity


Nationality used to be equivalent with race before porky made it black vs white


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Lol. Because Canada is the CIA's playground.
Saudi Arabia had the Wahhabi schools, Canada has the assorted military academies, underground societies and Bandera colony schools.
It's working as intended.


Because Canadians are on average even worse people than Americans.


What is the situation with the local Ukrainian community like? Are they all svidomo Galicians who fled Ukraine after WW2 or are there also quite a few new post-Soviet immigrants?


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<What is the situation with the local Ukrainian community like? Are they all svidomo Galicians who fled Ukraine after WW2 or are there also quite a few new post-Soviet immigrants?
It's a shit, this country has more commemorative propaganda (plaques, statues, what-not) to Nazi collaborators than we do to fucking Norman Bethune…


>What is the situation with the local Ukrainian community like?
Arguably worse than in Ukraine itself.


pourquoi y a-t-il tant de femmes trans au québec


it's literally over for canada, poilievre will steal everyone disillusioned with trudeau and jagmeet is a troll candidate to begin with

get ready for harper 2.0


Singh is to India what Freeland is to Russia, they are both ethno-nationalist separatists. It's further proof that Canada is just a CIA playground. A Sikh Khalistan separatist and a Galizien Nazi.
I don't know what Trudeau is, maybe the fall guy talking about "racial equity" and weird stuff during economic collapse to provoke the reaction as some kind of angloid Nazism.
Or some kind Quebecois accelerationist.


I still remember when one time some shill tried to push for jagmeet as "ourguy" on here five years or so ago


At the 5 minute point of this video:
>But hold on a minute- Manhattan became America's skyscraper capital because of a lack of space. Toronto doesn't have that problem, so why builds upwards here and not out?
>So Toronto is quite a large city, but the vast majority of buildable land area is dominated by what's known locally as the yellow belt. These are neighborhoods that are dominated by low density detached single-family housing
>Because land values have increased dramatically and there's only certain areas that are zoned for high-density, the only way that developments can be feasible from a supply point of is if they go upwards
This is funny to me. SO because NIMBY's refuse any development, even relatively small stuff like missing middle housing, they are indirectly causing their cities to turn into concrete jungles. in fact the only way they can maintain their lifestyle is by increasingly urbanizing their precious suburb. Im a monkey but is this dialectics?


toronto is a concrete jungle, that’s why i love it so much
single family detached housing’s really a fucking menace in a lot of places here though


Toronto is a shit, now Montreal oth… The people are friendlier, the layout, the architecture… I am Ottawanon w/family in both cities and have spent alot of time in both cities.


How is ottowa?


Why do you hate Canada more then the USA?


>FIFA world cup in 2026
we're gonna ban iran and russia from the games aren't we


Ottawa/Outaouais is mind numbingly vanilla, and over-policed; you couldn't convince me there's a less impressive national capital anywhere else in the world.
>we're gonna ban iran and russia from the games aren't we
Probably, tbh I don't follow sport as much since ending up in a chair, but does Iran have a team good enough to qualify?
Also found this…
>The United 2026 bid beat a rival bid by Morocco during a final vote at the 68th FIFA Congress in Moscow.
in Moscow
Lol, lmao!


Where’s the evidence that Singh is pro-Khalistan? I tried searching and all I found were some clearly Conservative sockpuppet blogs ranting about how Trudeau is the second coming of Mao and Castro


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>ranting about how Trudeau is the second coming of Mao and Castro
If only…


Canadians somehow manage to be more loathesome than Americans. Americans tend to be just loud, dumb and greedy brutes, whereas Canadians have this irritating kind of elitist arrogance and cold manipulative psychopathy similar to the English.




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Canada’s Trade Surplus Widens to 14-Year High on Oil Shipments
>Canada’s merchandise trade surplus widened to the largest in 14 years in June as the nation’s oil producers ramped up shipments.
>Exports rose 2% to a record C$69.9 billion during the month, outpacing a 1.7% increase in imports, Statistics Canada reported on Thursday. The surplus rose to C$5 billion, the highest since 2008, up from a revised C$4.8 billion in May.
>While the nation has benefited from rising prices for energy and other commodities, the export gain in June reflects increased volumes of energy shipments - a welcome sign for a sector that has struggled to ramp up production this year.
>In total, export of energy products increased 3.2% to C$21 billion in June, and now represents 30% of total shipments.
>In the first six months of 2022, the nation recorded a cumulative C$19.9 billion of surpluses. Canada had a trade surplus of C$420 million in the same period last year. The widening surplus this year largely reflects price increases, with export volumes struggling to keep pace due to production issues in the energy sector.
>After adjusting for price gains, shipments of energy exports are still down by more than 12% since December, even with the bounce back in June.
>Exports for all goods in constant dollars rose 2.3% in the second quarter, versus a 6.7% gain for imports.
>While total imports in constant dollars are well above pre-pandemic levels, Statistics Canada said, exports have yet to recover.
>The nation’s trade deficit in services widened to $1.3 billion in June as Canadians increased travel abroad, the agency also reported.


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Canada’s unemployment falls for 2nd month as labour force shrinks
Canada’s central bank in July raised interest rates by a whopping 100 basis points in hopes of tackling high inflation.
>Canada’s economy unexpectedly lost jobs for the second month in a row in July after a year-long boom, but analysts predicted that this would not stop the Bank of Canada from raising interest rates to fight inflation.
>Statistics Canada on Friday reported that 30,600 positions were shed while the unemployment rate stayed at a record low 4.9 percent.
>The data marked the second consecutive month of relatively moderate losses. Between May 2021 and May 2022, the economy added 1.06 million jobs as the recovery from COVID-19 took hold.
>Analysts polled by the Reuters news agency had expected an increase of 20,000 positions and for the jobless rate to edge up to 5.0 percent.
>The central bank last month surprised markets by raising its main interest rate by 100 basis points in a bid to tackle inflation, and said more rises would be needed.
>Derek Holt, vice president of capital markets economics at Scotiabank, said the July figures were disappointing but predicted Canada’s central bank would keep raising rates.
>“I think they know full well that fighting inflation is going to break a few things, and one of them will be slowing job market momentum,” he said.
>The average hourly wages of permanent employees – a figure the Bank of Canada watches closely – rose by 5.4 percent from July 2021, down from June’s 5.6 percent year-on-year increase but sharply higher than the 2.4 percent registered at the start of the year.
>“That’s going to concern the Bank of Canada much more than the job count as evidence of tight markets amid difficulty getting workers,” said Holt.
>Statscan said there was no indication of increased job churn despite the tight labour market.
>The United States, by far Canada’s largest trading partner, on Friday reported unexpectedly strong jobs numbers, which helped push the Canadian dollar 0.6 percent lower to 1.2945 to the greenback, or 77.25 US cents.
>The Canadian central bank’s next scheduled rate announcement is on September 7, with the August jobs data due on September 9.
>Money markets have fully priced in a 50 basis point increase and see about a two-thirds chance of a 75 basis point move.
>“We’re still dealing with the lowest unemployment rate in at least 50 years, and wages that are running strong,” said Doug Porter, chief economist at BMO Capital Markets.
>“I don’t believe things are nearly weak enough to call a halt to rate hikes. We had pencilled in a 50 basis point rate hike in September and I would say we’re comfortable with that call,” he said by phone.


I need more Socialist analysis of Canadian politics.
I skimmed the thread and found these
I personally can recommend The Canada Files https://www.thecanadafiles.com/
Any others?


agreed. they're like haute burgers or uk attitude burgers that lack all self awareness


thats stupid shit
anceint greeks knew half brain/mind is real/physical and half is imaginary


i would say upping the anti but it’s not desirable


what you just typed out is stupid shit



So the house is investigating the nova scotia shooting on CPAC and a Liberal MP asked how they could make it clear to the public that the RCMP and its work isn't compromised, since according to the witnesses they've spoken with this morning the prime minster's office didn't direct the RCMP and neither did the minister or the minister's office.

The RCMP officer responded that that's a difficult question to answer because it's possible that their work could have been compromised.

So Job#1 for Liberals is defending the narrative and the face of flawed institutions. Sigh.



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>On August 15, we celebrate the birth, life and work of Hardial Bains, founder and leader of the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist). Hardial Bains was, above all else, a man of revolutionary action.


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Jamaican migrant workers in Ontario pen open letter likening conditions to 'systematic slavery'
>Jamaican migrant farm workers in Niagara Region wrote an open letter to Jamaica's Ministry of Labour requesting more support in the face of what they call "systematic slavery," days before a migrant worker died in Norfolk County.
>Garvin Yapp, 57, of St. James, Jamaica, was killed last Sunday in an accident with a tobacco harvester at Berlo's Best Farm in Norfolk County, two hours southwest of Toronto.
>The province has confirmed his death. The Van Berlo family, who runs Berlo's Best, said they were devastated by Yapp's death, adding "they did not lose an employee, but they lost a person they considered a member of their family," the family's lawyer Bernard Cummins told CBC Toronto.
>In a statement on Tuesday, the Jamaican Ministry of Labour expressed "deep sadness" and said Jamaican Labour Minister Karl Samuda will be visiting and touring farms in Canada employing Jamaican workers under the Seasonal Agricultural Worker Program (SAWP) [https://web.archive.org/web/20120317160438/http://apps.fims.uwo.ca/NewMedia2008/SAWP.aspx] this week.
>The Canadian government, meanwhile, said in a statement it "expresses its deepest condolences" to Yapp's family, friends and co-workers, and added that the investigation into the death is a provincial matter.
>In its own statement, the Ontario Ministry of Labour, whom it falls on to investigate the matter, said the investigation is ongoing.
>According to Migrant Workers Alliance for Change (MWAC) [https://migrantworkersalliance.org/], three other workers have died in Ontario in the last week alone. The workers who penned the open letter are members of MWAC.
>CBC News has not independently confirmed those three deaths.
>"As it currently stands, the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Program (SAWP) is systematic slavery," the workers wrote in their open letter.
>The letter was sent to the Jamaican Observer, where excerpts of it were published on Monday. The workers said they sent the letter to Samuda on Aug. 11.
>"Jamaicans have been coming for generations, our fellow Caribbean and Mexican coworkers have too, and there have been no significant changes since the program started," the workers said.
>Workers wrote they were scared of sharing their grievances with Samuda directly for fear of being kicked out of the SAWP. They also said that workers from Mexico and the Philippines share the same grievances.
>Workers described housing conditions as so poor that rats eat their food. They live in crowded rooms with zero privacy with cameras, and lack dryers to dry their clothes after it rains, they wrote.
>"It feels like we are in prison," the letter reads.
>On working conditions, workers wrote they're "treated like mules" and punished for not being quick enough. They said they're exposed to dangerous pesticides without adequate protection, and their bosses are verbally abusive.
>"They physically intimidate us, destroy our personal property, and threaten to send us home," the letter reads.
>CBC News did not receive a response from the two farms mentioned in the letter about the alleged conditions.
>CBC News reached out to Employment and Social Development Canada (ESDC), which oversees the Seasonal Agricultural Worker Program, for comment on the letter.
>A spokesperson for Minister of Employment, Workforce Development and Disability Inclusion Carla Qualtrough, one of the ministers responsible for the ESDC, responded in a statement on Monday.
>"The mistreatment or abuse of temporary foreign workers is unacceptable. The experiences detailed in this letter are disturbing, inhumane, and in violation of the regulations of this program," the office said.
>"ESDC officials are in communication with the provincial government, who oversees investigations into workplace complaints, on this matter."
>The statement said the government is working with partners to improve the program and protect workers.
>"In the last year, we have strengthened the workplace inspection process, expanded the TFW [Temporary Foreign Worker] tip line to provide services in multiple languages, and are increasing support for migrant worker organizations," the office said.
>"Most recently, Minister Qualtrough convened two meetings with provincial and territorial governments, international governments, migrant worker organizations, and other partners to improve the regulations around accommodation" for workers, it said.
>Advocates for migrant workers said they were not surprised by the contents of the open letter.
>"This is very much the reality of the migrant farm worker program in this country," MWAC's executive director Syed Hussan said. "Working in farms in Canada is a human rights disaster."
>Santiago Escobar, the national representative for the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, says this is a countrywide problem. The union has requested the federal government to make union representation a condition of the temporary foreign worker permits, as a result.
>"With a union, these workers could exercise their labour and human rights," Escobar said.
>It also asks the provincial government to include agricultural workers in their labour laws and offer workers a flexible path to permanent residency.
>"We need to give them representation, better work permits, and a path to residency," Escobar said. "With these the workers will be able to overcome all the abuses they're experiencing."
>Hussan agrees.
>"As long as we have a temporary immigration system, farm workers will be exploited," he said. "Farm workers themselves are calling on a system for full and permanent immigration status for all."
>He says workers fear asserting their rights will lead to homelessness, loss of employment, and deportation. As it stands now, workers' permits are tied to their employer, Hussan said.
>Hussan says labour laws would help, but farm workers would be unable to assert their rights under those laws without full and permanent immigration status.
>"This is an ongoing crisis that's a direct result of federal immigration policy," he said.


As somebody who has lived in the Niagara region and gone to uni with the children of farmers from the area, I can say that they are easily the equivalent of the worst 1930s kulak. The people I went to school with from this region were almost exclusively wealthy trust fund brats, had shitty reactionary politics, and loved to LARP as actual poor rural people even though they lived on a multi-million dollar estate worked by migrants like some kind of medieval lord. The LARPing as rednecks is one of the most infuriating parts, because I've also known plenty of actual poor rural people who are some of the friendliest, most hardworking, and honest people I've ever encountered. These mfs will be land reformed out of existence.


They also live off of government subsidies. Medieval lords is the right word.




This is magnificent.


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jreg is starting to give me early 2010s sam hyde vibes


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Some Freedom Convoy leftovers are occupying a church in Ottawa to I assume do a LARPy putsch?
They will inaugurate their Fourth Reich with super soakers. The shirts of the Ungeziefer will be damp, damp with stale water.


>thinks elections are a measure of the political content of a nation
>thinks real democracy exists under capitalism.


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Two men went into a First Nations band government in Saskatchewan as well as a nearby village knocking on doors and stabbing anyone that answered
Apparently they were from the community, if the picrel Facebook posts are authentic
At least 10 dead
They're on the run now


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>vice: noooooooooo how come you can let your dog lick your dingdong! that's for sickos! just stick to torturing and mutilating animals for food instead!


>This story is over 5 years old.


RCMP feared that Mounties might leak operational plans to convoy protesters: documents
'The potential exists for serious insider threats,' says the Feb. 10 advisory
>The RCMP feared that serving Mounties sympathetic to the convoy protest against pandemic measures in Ottawa earlier this year might leak operational plans to protesters, says an internal threat advisory obtained by CBC News.
>"The potential exists for serious insider threats," says the Feb. 10 advisory from the RCMP's ideologically motivated criminal intelligence team.
>"Those who have not lost their jobs but are sympathetic to the movement and their former colleagues may be in a position to share law enforcement or military information to the convoy protests."
>The document, obtained by CBC News through an access to information request, shows the RCMP worried that some of their own might co-operate with the protesters who barricaded streets in downtown Ottawa for weeks.
>It was well-documented during the protests that some key convoy supporters had previous ties to law enforcement — among them a former RCMP officer who was on the prime minister's security detail and a former military intelligence officer.
>That sparked concerns within the RCMP's ideologically motivated criminal intelligence unit about convoy participants getting an inside track on how police operate.
>"Convoy supporters formerly employed in law enforcement and the military have appeared alongside organizers and may be providing them with logistical and security advice, which may pose operational challenges for law enforcement should policing techniques and tactics be revealed to convoy participants,'' says the unit's advisory.
>Barbara Perry, director of the Centre on Hate, Bias and Extremism, said it's no surprise the RCMP was worried about members leaking information to convoy participants.
>"We have to look at what we do know about sexism, misogyny and racism within the RCMP. And you know, those are the bread and butter of the far-right movement," she said.
>Perry said researchers have been able to delve into extremism in the Canadian Armed Forces, but researching extremist ties in law enforcement has been harder.
>"That thin blue line is alive and well and police are very reticent to speak about these sorts of issues," she said.
>"We haven't really done a whole lot of research in the Canadian context but in the U.S., study after study shows that law enforcement rates very high in terms of authoritarian values, which is part and parcel of the far-right as well. So I think there's definitely overlap."
>CBC asked the RCMP whether its concerns about "insider threats" ever materialized. The police force did not respond in time for publication.
>Michael Kempa, an associate professor of criminology at the University of Ottawa, said worries about information leaks may have played a role in how police shared information during the convoy occupation.
>"When the convoy had settled in, there would have been concerns in all police organizations that there would be a small number of police with sympathies for the convoy," he said.
>"That's because there's these sympathies in our society. So yes, I would be very confident that police leadership would have been careful in how they were sharing information, taking that into consideration."
>The police response to last winter's Freedom Convoy protests will take centre stage next month when a public inquiry begins its study of the federal government's rationale for using emergency measures.
>Concerns about how information was being shared among police and security forces was teased out in talking points prepared for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's national security and intelligence adviser — also released to CBC News in the same access-to-information package.
>On Feb. 9, according to the documents, national security adviser to the prime minister Jody Thomas held a meeting with federal deputy ministers to update them on the protests and the police response.
>By that date, a dedicated cohort of protesters upset with COVID-19 public health measures had blocked city streets for nearly 13 days, prompting the City of Ottawa to declare a state of emergency. Mayor Jim Watson described the situation as the "the most serious emergency our city has ever faced."
>Peter Sloly, chief of the Ottawa Police Service (OPS) at the time, told a Feb. 7 Ottawa city council meeting that he needed an influx of almost 2,000 police officers and civilians to "turn up the heat."
>But Sloly's plans for going forward weren't clear to everyone involved.
>”Over the course of the two weekends and throughout the weeks, OPS has brought in additional police resources from a number of Ontario municipalities and the OPP, depending upon the estimated and actual number of protesters," Thomas's notes say.
>"However, the OPS has not yet shared its forward plan for enforcement with partners and it is unclear whether the plan has been developed. This has resulted in some surge resources from OPP and other municipal law enforcement being redeployed."
>A spokesperson for the Privy Council Office (PCO) said the term "partners" would have referred to other security and policing agencies, including the RCMP and the Parliamentary Protective Services.
>When asked for more details about the enforcement plan, a spokesperson for the Ottawa Police Service said the force will not comment "while the parliamentary review is underway."
>The RCMP also wouldn't comment on the discussions the Mounties were having at the time with the OPS, the main police force of jurisdiction for the Ottawa protest.
>"It would not be appropriate to comment on specific operational discussions that took place with our law enforcement and security partners at the time, as this information will be disclosed in due course at the Public Order Emergency Commission," said RCMP spokesperson Charlotte Hibbard.
>"The RCMP has a longstanding positive relationship with the Ottawa Police Service and other law enforcement and security partners within the National Capital Region.”
>Scott Blandford is an assistant professor and program coordinator for the policing and master of public safety program at Wilfrid Laurier University in Waterloo, Ont. He said that when one police force sends aid to another, they usually keep each other in the loop.
>"I personally can't see an organization withholding intelligence and information once another organization has committed to provide aid," he said.
>"I think what happened here was that the situation was so dynamic, was changing by the day, not only by the number of people that were becoming involved and what their involvement was. And in a lot of ways … the initial movement was co-opted by a number of other organizations which kept adding new layers and new dimensions to it."
>In such a fast-changing climate, he said, policing plans might have to change daily.
>The documents released to CBC also show the government crafted a strategic action plan sometime between Jan. 24 and Feb. 11 that raised concerns about how police were responding to the protests.
>According to the plan document, the purpose of the plan was to "support a discussion by committee members on the strategic direction and ideas for federal actions to empower the City of Ottawa's resolution of the ongoing demonstration." (PCO did not identify the committee in question for CBC News.)
>"There is currently no clear path and an escalation of sympathetic protests across Canada risks further jeopardizing the national interest," says the document.
>"The ineffectiveness of governments and law enforcement to resolve this situation is drawing the attention of the public from the occupiers' actions to the lack of response."
>On Feb. 12, the OPS, the Ontario Provincial Police and the RCMP formed an Integrated Command Centre to coordinate their response to the Ottawa protests.
>By that point, other protests against pandemic measures were erupting across the country. One shut down the border crossing at the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor. Ont. — Canada's busiest commercial route.
>On Feb. 10, the U.S. urged the federal government to use its emergency powers to end border blockades, according to a Privy Council Office national operations update released as part of the document dump.
>On Feb. 14, Trudeau announced the government would invoke the Emergencies Act for the first time since it was crafted in 1988 — a controversial move that gave authorities temporary powers that included the ability to freeze the bank accounts and credit cards of protesters. Attending any event deemed an unlawful assembly, such as the Ottawa convoy protest, also became illegal.
>”It is now clear that there are serious challenges to law enforcement's ability to effectively enforce the law," Trudeau said during a news conference that day. The act was revoked on Feb. 23 after police cleared Ottawa streets.
>According to court documents previously made public, Thomas — who was the former deputy minister of national defence before becoming Trudeau's top intelligence adviser — told cabinet there was "potential for a breakthrough" with convoy leaders the night before the Emergencies Act was invoked.
>Those redacted court documents were filed recently in Federal Court as part of a lawsuit challenging the government's use of the act.
>The court documents do not include any details about the possible breakthrough cited by Thomas on Feb. 13.
>The office of Canada's public safety minister has since said that Thomas was referring to negotiations led "principally" by the City of Ottawa that were "ultimately unsuccessful" after being "disavowed" by many associated with the convoy.
>"The government considered this as a factor in the decision to invoke the Emergencies Act," said a statement from Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino's office.
>"The situation remained volatile and the threat of future blockades remained. In Ottawa, there was a significant escalation in the boldness of the protestors and … the city's 911 system was overloaded due to hoax calls."
>Weeks after the occupation ended, Thomas defended the decision to use the act, saying the protesters were "dug in" and "there's no doubt [they] came to overthrow the government."
>The government's decision to invoke the Emergencies Act has drawn intense criticism from political opponents and civil liberty advocates.
>From the opposition benches, Mendicino has faced calls to resign and questions about who wanted the government to deploy emergency powers.
>As part of the Emergencies Act, a public inquiry is being held to analyze the federal government's reasons for deploying emergency measures.
>That inquiry was scheduled to start later this month but has been delayed until Oct. 13.



Canada is just getting more unaffordable to live in.



Is there anywhere I can find all of the CPC's chapters? I'm interested in getting involved, but have no idea what the closest chapters to me are I'm in Kitchener/Waterloo if anyone knows about a chapter there


contact the ontario party leadership and ask if there's a chapter nearby you
there isn't one in KW iirc, the nearest one is maybe in guelph


Thanks! Just sent an email to both the Ontario and the other one.


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why is telesur crying about bill c-14 of all things


Fucking wild that Baggedmilkistan has resurrected Aktion T4 and its gone overlooked.


Trudeau needs to convene a constituent assembly for a republic ASAP
This is the window of opportunity


What the hell is going on in canada


Change the name to King Kucked Kanada (KKK) if Trudeau doesn’t declare a republic


For many Canadians, interest in remaining a constitutional monarchy will die with Queen Elizabeth
Most say they’ll be saddened by death of Queen, but don’t wish to continue with monarchy under Charles
>November 30, 2021 – The tiny island nation of Barbados is making a big change by becoming a republic and cutting ties to the British monarchy that has signified – at least in part – colonial rule for nearly 400 years.
>With the health of Queen Elizabeth, who turned 95 this year, under increasing scrutiny, questions about the long-term future of Canada’s place as a constitutional monarchy are subject to more discussion.
>Now, a new study from the non-profit Angus Reid Institute finds people in this country disinclined to maintain the status quo for generations to come by a margin of two-to-one: just over half (52%) say Canada should not remain a constitutional monarchy indefinitely, while one-quarter (25%) say it should.
>These data reflect a significant decline in support for the system as Canadians grow increasingly weary of their relationship with the crown. Indeed, a little over five years ago, the number saying the country should remain a constitutional monarchy for generations to come stood at over 40 percent.
>With Queen Elizabeth at the helm, however, Canadians are reasonably content with the current arrangement. A full majority (55%) say they support Canada’s place in the monarchy with the current Queen – who next year is expected to mark 70 years as Canada’s head of state. This drops to just 34 per cent with her assumed successor Prince Charles as the hypothetical king.
>Perhaps unsurprisingly, many Canadians carry a greater connection with the Queen than the institution she represents. Indeed, asked how her death might affect them, most say they’ll feel sad (56%) while one-fifth (19%) say they won’t feel anything.



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Don't give me hope like that Anon.


It's gonna happen eventually
It's just that the hassle of passing a new republican constitution isn't that big of a political priority right now I guess


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You WILL mourn the Queen


A day off is always good



I mean they could just rehash the 1982 constitution and drop references to the monarchy.


is this why i got a fat cheque from the gov yesterday? thanks jagger


People got cheques?


I think they meant wired into their bank account


Long ass bloomberg article incoming but I think its important to take note of the rise of grifting right wingers that are cynically co-opting working class politics
A Canadian Right-Winger Pits the ‘Have-Nots’ Against the ‘Have-Yachts’
>Pickup trucks pack the parking lot of the Best Western Lamplighter Inn. On an August evening in London, Ont., the hotel’s ballroom is standing room only. The Conservative Party rally is attracting rugged folks, many from outlying hamlets: farmers, health-care workers, bus drivers, pensioners, and a handful of students.
>Pierre Poilievre wades into the crowd of 700, which erupts into cheers. He’s campaigning to take over Canada’s right wing and remove Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. He expresses outrage over struggling single mothers who add water to their children’s milk, 35-year-old men unable to afford rent and living in their parents’ basements, the Bank of Canada’s printing of money, taxes on fertilizer and energy, the cost of gasoline, and the mask and vaccine mandates still prevalent in Canada. He blames Trudeau for each, especially rising prices, which he labels “Justin-flation.”
>Wealth is flowing, he says, “from the have-nots to the have-yachts.” Elite gatekeepers are standing in your way. “Wokeism” is destroying society. After enumerating the taxes, he lowers his voice and, with the timing of a stand-up comic, says: “I hear it got so cold in Ottawa that someone saw Trudeau with his hands in his own pockets.”
>The crowd roars and then waits patiently for up to 90 minutes for a handshake, a private word, and a selfie. This year, Poilievre signed up a record-breaking 300,000 members to his party. Now the question is whether he can turn that embrace and his vow to slash spending into the ultimate political prize.
>On Saturday, Poilievre (pronounced Paw-lee-EV in English and Pwa-lee-EVR in French) took a major step by winning his party’s leadership in a landslide. He sees it as the start of a populist revolution in Canadian politics, something that would’ve seemed pure fantasy just a few years ago. Rich, calm, and distinctly liberal, Canada tut-tutted the rise of Donald Trump in the US and Boris Johnson in the UK. Trudeau soared to his first victory in 2015 with talk of “sunny ways,” the idea that his nation of 38 million sets a global standard for well-planned civility, especially compared with the messy behemoth to its south.
>But Covid-19, a series of modest scandals and missteps, and the inflation and insecurity punishing much of the globe are posing unprecedented challenges to Trudeau. For the first time in his seven years, more than half the country has a negative view of him. Trudeau’s troubles have prompted speculation that he won’t lead the Liberals into another election, expected in 2025, but he’s repeatedly said he intends to stay and fight.
>Like the Republican and Democratic parties in the US, the Conservatives and Liberals have switched roles. The educated rich are now Liberals, while the Conservatives are increasingly the home of the working class. In Poilievre’s words, his party has gone “from suits to boots.” But, in contrast with the US, it’s pro-immigration and gay rights and doesn’t campaign on opposing abortion or making sweeping changes to firearm regulations. This is Canada, after all.
>What’s noteworthy isn’t so much that the opposition is gaining at a time of general discontent. It’s that it’s doing so with a candidate so openly associated with the far right who’s drawing support from left-leaning young voters opposed to vaccine mandates. Traditionally, a Conservative in Canada must tack to the center to win and govern. Stephen Harper did just that during his decade in power starting in 2006. The last two Conservative leaders campaigned on a vow of moderation—and lost to Trudeau.
>Poilievre offers no centrist message. He cozied up to the violent truckers’ protests against vaccine mandates last February. He’s vowed to fire the governor of the Bank of Canada for stoking inflation. He labels the World Economic Forum at Davos a cabal of corporate titans and governing mandarins and says any minister of his who attends will do so on a one-way ticket. He’s also a deficit hawk in the mold of Republican Paul Ryan, former US Speaker of the House.
>It’s all rather unfamiliar in the placid waters of Canadian politics and has led many in the liberal strongholds of Toronto and Ottawa to compare Poilievre to Trump. It’s a limited analogy at best—Poilievre is 43 and has been a fiscal wonk and parliamentarian for the past two decades, with a staid personal life. A better comparison might be with Trudeau himself. Poilievre is the age Trudeau was when he was elected. Like the prime minister, he’s a polarizing figure who preaches Canadian exceptionalism. His version stresses individual freedom, limited government, and deregulation—making Canada “the freest nation on Earth”—rather than central planning and environmental responsibility.
>“If I were to start my own party from scratch, it would be the Mind-Your-Own-Business Party,” he says in an interview after his Ontario rally. “Personal agency is robbed when people can’t make their own decisions.”
>Poilievre is speaking after his meet-and-greet. He’s a tactile and talented politician, a hand-holder who solicits stories of hardship that he then takes on the road. Unlike Trudeau, who has dazzle and sex appeal, Poilievre has a kind of anti-charisma charisma, the idea that he’s a plain talker from an ordinary background just like yours.
>His targeted voter is someone like Adam Trojek, who was at the London event. A 37-year-old franchisee of Bimbo Bakeries, Trojek voted for Trudeau in 2015 and regrets it.
>“He’s been spending money we don’t have,” Trojek says. “During Covid, he shut down too many businesses. I have a 10-month-old daughter, and she will be paying for all these policies. Poilievre keeps asking questions of the government. He talks the way I talk. He never gets the answers. But hopefully he will be the answer.”
>Poilievre is no political outsider. He’s been an outspoken Conservative member of Parliament his entire adult life, elected at 25 as the youngest in the chamber from a district outside Ottawa. He established himself as unrelenting at Question Period, the often raucous time set aside for lawmakers to query government ministers. He’s long made fiscal policy a central focus, going hard after big government and Liberal spending. Covid gave him powerful new credibility, as Trudeau ran up a record-smashing deficit of C$328 billion ($254 billion) in the year ended March 2021. Until then, the largest deficit in Canadian history had been C$56.4 billion in 2009, during the global financial crisis.
>Trudeau argued the pricey pandemic programs were necessary to keep the economy and families afloat. Poilievre predicted the spending would produce skyrocketing inflation that would hammer those holding mortgages and other debt. His prediction largely came true.
>Two years ago, when he was the Conservative Party's chief finance spokesperson, the so-called shadow minister or critic, Poilievre told Bloomberg News that Bank of Canada Governor Tiff Macklem “should not be an ATM for Trudeau’s insatiable spending appetites.” He added: “If the Bank of Canada does want to start getting more and more political, then it will be held to the same level of political accountability as other political entities.”
>In a leadership debate this year, he pledged to fire Macklem if elected prime minister. His social media accounts regularly target the central bank, saying it can't be trusted to fix inflation after causing it in the first place. He called the Bank of Canada “financially illiterate.”
>Slamming Macklem brings cheers at Poilievre's rallies, but it’s disturbed members of his party who fear they're sacrificing their reputation as sound economic managers. Ed Fast, who backed a rival for leadership, resigned as the party's finance critic this spring, saying he was deeply troubled. "Defending the independence of the central bank is not a Liberal talking point," Fast said in a TV interview.
>Poilievre's candidacy is therefore also raising concerns about Conservative unity. The modern party is the product of a compromise in 2003, when the more establishment Progressive Conservatives merged with the prairie-based populists of the Canadian Alliance. Prior to the merger, vote-splitting on the right had resulted in three straight election victories by the Liberals; later, the Conservative Party triumphed under Harper.
>Marjory LeBreton, a former Conservative senator who was deputy chief of staff to Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and later served in Harper's cabinet, witnessed the painstaking negotiations that led to the merger. She says the “great accommodation” of 2003 is now “fracturing beyond repair” with Poilievre's leadership, and moderate Conservatives like her are losing their home.
>“I worry that he'll transform the party into something unelectable,” LeBreton says, adding that Canadians will reject someone who only knows how to “go for the jugular.” She points to Poilievre’s support for the trucker convoy, despite its blockade of a city he represents. LeBreton, who lives in Poilievre's electoral district, says he turned his back on his own constituents.
>“I’ve been a Conservative all my life,” LeBreton says. “I believe in law and order. To me, this populism just takes a sledgehammer to a cornerstone of conservatism.”
>To understand Poilievre’s populism, it’s helpful to start where he did: in a lower-middle-class suburb of the western city of Calgary. The house where he grew up—Marlene, his mother, still lives there—is a split-level of gray shingle and brick with a tiny front lawn and an alley out back. On his street, at the end of the city’s light rail line, men cut their own grass. Pierre was a paperboy for the Calgary Sun and a high school wrestler. He was born to an unwed mother who at 16 gave him up for adoption to the Poilievres, teachers from the neighboring province of Saskatchewan. His father came from French-speaking stock; his mother, English. His younger brother, also adopted by the Poilievres from the same biological mother, works for a Calgary councilman.
>It would be hard to imagine a clearer contrast with the background of Canada’s current leader. Trudeau’s father, Pierre, was a larger-than-life prime minister, his mother, Margaret, a 1970s symbol of glitz and glamour. Trudeau came of age in sophisticated Montreal with a Kennedy-esque pedigree amid lavish comfort. Poilievre not only comes from the humblest of stock but also from the western province of Alberta, which has long resented the eastern establishments.
>“Out here on the prairies, we get it,” says Rick Bell, a columnist for the Calgary Sun, the paper Poilievre once threw onto doorsteps. Sitting in a diner booth where he interviewed Poilievre several months ago, he continues to explain how most there see things: “We’re outsiders. Things need fixing, and they are the very things that were produced by ‘sunny ways.’ Pierre brings that outsider-ness and is taking on the establishment. For Canada, this is very bold.”
>Calgary, gateway to the Canadian Rockies, may consider itself marginalized, but it’s hardly poor. It owes its substantial wealth to oil, gas, and cattle, industries with long traditions of opposing government regulation. There’s been a Western US influence from homesteaders, oil workers, and Mormons who moved north. Like Houston or Denver, Calgary holds dearly to its Old West ways, labeling its highways “trails” and its fairgrounds “the Calgary Stampede.”
>Its university has famously produced a set of ideas known as the Calgary School, an echo of the free-market Chicago School. Ex-Prime Minister Harper emerged from that incubator, as did Poilievre. Young Pierre was active in the university’s conservative club and in 1999 was a finalist in an essay contest on what he would do if elected prime minister. He’d leave Canadians “to cultivate their own personal prosperity and to govern their own affairs as directly as possible,” he wrote in an early version of his current ideology. He began a political communications company after graduation and was then hired by Stockwell Day, a Conservative politician who took him to Ottawa.
>Day became foreign affairs shadow minister and Poilievre his policy aide. As Day recalls, “One cold winter night, he came into my office and said, ‘I am thinking of running for a local constituency here in Ontario.’ I said, ‘Calgary would make more sense. Here nobody knows you, you have a French name, and you’ll be seen as a young punk outsider.’ He didn’t listen and door-knocked his way to victory.”
>Poilievre has many qualities that are rare for his party and broaden his appeal. He comes from the West but represents the East. He has a French name and speaks excellent French. He’s married to a Venezuelan immigrant to Quebec with whom he has two small children, yet he’s seen as having an Anglophone’s outlook. Unlike American politicians on the hard right, he’s pro-immigrant and doesn’t want to touch abortion rights. On gay rights, he says, “It should be freedom for everybody, including gays and lesbians, to live their own lives in happiness and without interference from the state.” His focus on pocketbook issues is relentless. “When you inflate asset prices, what you do is you shut the lower-income working classes out of property ownership while inflating the wealth of those who have,” he says.
>Poilievre wants to loosen Canada’s green regulations. He doesn’t deny climate change but favors stepping up oil production and pipeline construction. He argues that Canadian environmental standards are superior to those in the Middle East and Asia, and the production fosters employment at home. “Canada accounts for about 2% of global emissions, so what it does really makes little difference,” argues Ted Morton, a retired political scientist who was central to the Calgary School in the 1980s and ’90s. “It’s wrongheaded for Canada to sacrifice oil and gas for climate change, and that’s what Trudeau is doing.”
>To some political observers, Canada today feels like 1979 during the rise of Ronald Reagan in the US and Margaret Thatcher in the UK. There’s runaway inflation, an energy crisis, and a Russian threat. Impatience with government missteps and Covid mandates is palpable; Air Canada flights require masking, and pilots all but apologize for it during their takeoff announcements.
>Poilievre’s campaign videos feature him talking about issues such as a gummed-up bureaucracy, high taxes, and the loss of tradition. They’ve gone viral. He terrifies many who consider him a demagogue for his embrace of anti-vaxxers and attacks on Davos and the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. as woke gatekeepers.
>Three years, the time before a general election is due, is an awfully long time in politics. But no one counts Poilievre out. Because of Canada’s multiparty politics, he needs only to add a small percentage of non-Conservative voters to triumph in an election. “He’s building on a politics of grievance and is really good at coming up with slogans,” says Lori Williams, a political scientist at Calgary’s Mount Royal University. “We have seen conservative populist leaders win all over the world. Why would Canada be different?”
turns out it was the ontario trillium benefit
nah, maybe theyre technically called something else but I get mailed cheques still, cant be arsed to set up direct deposit


They should have a month of public holidays to properly mourn


ever since i first saw pierre i knew he was the living embodiment of the wealthy right-wing grifter schtick. careerist politican so overtly in it for personal gain that i cant see how anybody could miss it. its not even like i have some rageboner for the man or anything, but like, come on, just watching him wheeling his game its so obvious what kind of person he is


WTF is “lower middle class”? He grew up in a suburb, he’s just affluent as Trudeau is.
I’m tired of hearing about this fucker. He politically courted the freedom convoy people too.


>He grew up in a suburb
You think that living in the place that people go because they can't afford to live in the city is a sign of affluence? Suburbs are miserable. And, my god, can you imagine living in a suburb in the icebox that is Alberta?


>the place that people go because they can't afford to live in the city
how do you even communicate with someone this stupid


The parliamentary Westminster system sucks ass
I’d prefer a US style republic



I've in Alberta all my life.
I wonder if life in Florida would be better.
If I could afford it, i'd move to Europe.
Maybe a cheaper southern state.




Can't believe there's even a discussion
Why was Queen Elizabeth even so special when she was alive anyways


>Why was Queen Elizabeth even so special when she was alive anyways
Because she was the only monarch the vast majority of people alive today ever knew. For most people it was impossible to separate the monarchy as an institution from her personally, but luckily death has done that for us.


Then people should've hated her


You can't expect people to spontaneously develop an anti-imperialist consciousness absent the conditions that favour it. People accepted it because it was the status quo, and people felt it had no real bearing on their lives.


>People accepted it because it was the status quo, and people felt it had no real bearing on their lives.
Are you the people whisperer or something
Also frankly I don't think people should be limiting themselves to the monarchy itself. The parliament should also be abolished and replaced with something like Congress in the US with a President as the executive.


ya,and idk about you guys but the only people ive ever known who gave a shit about the monarchy are literal geezers, despite how much the government and media shills it.
I doubt anyone young enough to not know princess diana has spent more than 10 seconds thinking about the Queen and monarchy, yet white leafs desperate for an identity will probably make it a closely contested referendum regardless


>Are you the people whisperer or something
I mean I speak to people if that's what you're asking.
>yet white leafs desperate for an identity will probably make it a closely contested referendum regardless
We could address this by pursuing a deliberate policy of Celtic-Anglo-French-Native cultural syncretism, but Tories would rather LARP as Brits and Libs would rather replace our nationality with consooming.


Libs sound based



Canadian nationality is a meme, and I like shopping


lol ya Libs definitely arent any less guilty of trying to manufacture some faux canadian nationalism, in fact Trudeau leans into Canadian exceptionalism hard, and conservatives are just as if not more happy to sell us out to the highest international bidder



>Canadian nationality is a meme, and I like shopping
It's a meme because we've allowed it to become one.


Why does the NDP keep fucking pestering me with emails about signing some card as a surprise for Jagmeet Singh?
What an unserious, entitled org/leadership


I mean the concept itself
You sound like a fascist


Just looked up his twitter and saw this BS


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I thought he was kind of based


>uwu let's be nice to conservatives
<1:2 ratio
>uwu smol bean queen is deddo
<1:15 ratio
>rip castro use a legend
<3:1 ratio
Hoes mad


Conservatives have bots out the ass spamming all of their political enemies on Twitter
I wouldn’t pay attention to it


It is just Canadian politeness I suppose.


>a deliberate policy of Celtic-Anglo-French-Native cultural syncretism
be still my beating heart
too bad it sounds too much like what CHYNA does, and so itll never even be entertained as an idea because CHYNA BAD


Isnt "Anglo Culture" inhererently a mishmash of a dozen different things, even the Brits have this stereotype of not having a culture. (in fact, I think you'll find that all of the "Canadian stereotypes" are in fact, second hand Brit ones)
Sadly, we Anglo-Canadians will just have to live vicariously through the Quebecois if we want to pretend to be a nation


>You sound like a fascist
Having a nationality =/= fascism. Do you not think it's in the interests of Canadian workers to resist absorption into the US?


>Isnt "Anglo Culture" inhererently a mishmash of a dozen different things
Literally every culture is. It's just a question of having a distinctive blend.
>Sadly, we Anglo-Canadians will just have to live vicariously through the Quebecois
How is anglo-Canadian cultural relationship to Britain different from the Quebecois cultural relationship to France?


>How is anglo-Canadian cultural relationship to Britain different from the Quebecois cultural relationship to France?
Today? Not very this is true, but we've been at it longer though. Anglo-Canadian cultural relationship had us in WW2 right away, France hasn't been a factor for what at least 150 years in the affairs of French-Canadians by then?
t. Franco-Ontarien


How would you feel about a policy of universal bilingualism?


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>policy of universal bilingualism?
Not quite sure what you mean by this, but nothing wrong with learning different languages… Also only Franco-Ontarien on the mother's side, pop's a Wop, so I got to spend Saturday mornings in Italian classes…


Doesn't matter who you vote, Quebec will still be the dog of Ottawa and the Crown


>every party but one has a the fleur de lis on it

lol… talk about insecure


I mean mandatory and universal K-12 French language education.


I mean the same could be same about your shitty little leaf slapped on just about everything


at least it’s not a royal symbol from a monarchy on another continent that no longer exists


do Canadian macdonalds have to have the lead emblem by law?


Waaaa I can't eat my trans fats or drink my HFCS unless it has a fucking LEAF on it, OKAY?


Yes I do.


Freeland looks miserable in the House of Commons. Why do people vote for the Liberals instead of the NDP as an alternative to the Conservative Party, again


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>Why do people vote for the Liberals (liberal) instead of the NDP (liberal) as an alternative to the Conservative Party (liberal), again
Un vrai mystère…


actual liberalism only existed in western europe in the 18th and 19th centuries
it doesn’t apply to the conditions of canada today




ok neolib


the conservatives are the party of the agroindustrial kulaks and suburban petit-bourgeois
the ndp are the party of the professional intelligentsia and unionized workers
the liberals are the party of urban petit-bourgeois and some workers


my electricty, gas and water bills have almost doubled this year with no real change in my usage :D


Fiona is beating the Atlantic coast's ass


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>Telus technicians and call centre workers across Canada have overwhelmingly voted to give their union a 97% strike mandate, the United Steelworkers union (USW) Local 1944 announced Thursday


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Municipal governments don't have power
Their budgets (AKA power) are in reality controlled by the provincial/territorial governments


So the Conservatives pretty much own Ontario at this point right
Both the Liberals and the NDP are absolutely weak opposition and complete trainwrecks in recent history
There needs to be a renewed Left outside of these parties


Municipal governments exist entirely at the mercy of the provinces. They have basically no constitutional protection at all. Technically you don't even have the right to vote in a municipal election.


based wall person, i hope he wins Municipal governments


also no one posted this
it's only the few videos where Jreg is trying to give us full political criticism

it's also hard as fuck to run in a municipal election


The NDP are doing a sticker contest and it’s the biggest fucking no-brainer ever


They actually did win with a majority before


>I’m tired of hearing about this fucker. He politically courted the freedom convoy people too.


Why would you need the NDP for that? Also union leaders have been selling out since literally forever. Just work with communist parties as far as electoral shit.


>Just work with communist parties as far as electoral shit
they're even more useless



You have to ask?


>small party bad


That and also "Marxism-Leninism" is deader than a motherfucker. No one gives a solid or even liquid, runny shit about the Soviet Union anymore except for maybe boomers with Alzheimer's. All that's left is doing pathetic campism for some flailing overseas bourgeois regime or other, this being their primary political interest, their "concern" for actual progressive politics being merely bait to reel people into their wacko geopolitical views.
What else? Trotskyists don't have a party. Maoists are basically subject to the same critique as above and disappearing even faster.


>No one gives a solid or even liquid, runny shit about the Soviet Union anymore except for maybe boomers with Alzheimer's
That has nothing to do with whether Marxism-Leninism has applicability to contemporary politics, and it certainly doesn't negate the need for an independent party of the working class.
>All that's left is doing pathetic campism for some flailing overseas bourgeois regime or other
Who does this? CPC and definitely the CPC-ML don't.
>their "concern" for actual progressive politics being merely bait to reel people into their wacko geopolitical views
Source: your ass.


OK thanks for the non-rebuttal



not an argument


How is that a non-rebuttal? You just made a bunch of random, baseless accusations that don't actually reflect the programs of the parties you're criticizing.


so, what I gather from this thread is that things for the left in Baggedmilkistan are hopeless beyond hopelessness, even compared to the rest of the hellworld? Folks elsewhere will occasionally do shit, the average leaf just looks south, goes "oook oook we ams better than that" and then proceeds to suffocate themselves in Porky's asshole.


with exception to whatever one it was that got some local council people elected, small parties are worse than bad, worse than useless, actively harmful in that they suck up time and effort for no gains. this is true worldwide.

not that electoralism is a particularly helpful route, but hey, nobody can say you're doing nothing - you're getting somebody a salary to go to that meeting about which private bus company gets the tender for running local route 28 so that they can explain that under communism the bus will be owned by the bus driver and the current shareholders will find their heads several feet from their bodies, but in the mean time the communists will be voting to allocate the service to Veolia since their bid is clearly cheaper at a time when budget pressures are high.


>small parties are worse than bad, worse than useless, actively harmful in that they suck up time and effort for no gains
As opposed to big centre left parties which suck up time and effort to actively reverse the gains that have already been made?


>Folks elsewhere will occasionally do shit, the average leaf just looks south, goes "oook oook we ams better than that" and then proceeds to suffocate themselves in Porky's asshole.
The average sentiment here is that the political establishment sucks, but not bad enough that anybody is willing to seriously do anything about it. The US seeming like a total dumpster fire by comparison really does help pacify people.


Ontario and its doctors reach virtual care billing deal, but only for specialists
>Ontario has reached a deal with doctors that saves specialists who treat patients virtually from having their fees slashed, but leaves other physicians out in the cold, The Canadian Press has learned.
>In a memo to its members Friday, the Ontario Medical Association, which represents the province’s doctors, said it reached the deal after a months-long deadlock.
>The province is set to revamp its fees for virtual care on Dec. 1 after pushing an Oct. 1 deadline because the Ministry of Health was unable to make the changes to its billing program in time.
>“While the ministry did not agree with all of the concerns that our members raised, this agreement mitigates many of the unintended consequences and will help physicians to continue to serve their patients with virtual care,” wrote the medical association’s board chair Dr. Cathy Faulds.
>The province is set to introduce a number of permanent changes to its virtual care program that would see the fee paid to doctors cut to $15 from $37 per patient visit.
>Addictions doctors across the province recently received a deal sparing them of cuts to a $15 bonus on top of the $37 fee — they had warned that the cuts could have seen upwards of 50,000 patients on opioid agonist therapy lose access to treatment unless they went in person.
>“This deal will ensure that Ontarians will continue to have access to the care they need, when they need it,” said Hannah Jensen, a spokeswoman for the Minister of Health.
>“Virtual care is intended to complement in-person care not replace it. This approach has resulted in meaningful changes for virtual care that ensures a positive patient-physician relationship is fostered.”
>Under the previous proposed changes to virtual care, patients would have had to see a doctor once in person in a two-year period in order for the doctor to receive the same rate for subsequent remote visits.
>The OMA had challenged the changes after an outcry by doctors who use virtual care, which allowed them to greatly expand their reach across Ontario.
>Under the new deal, patients can continue to get virtual care from those doctors without an in-person visit so long as a consultation, which can be done remotely, is done every 24 months.
>“The prospect of a requirement that patients see a specialist or GP in person once every 24 months to be able to continue to receive virtual care had been the source of significant concern,” Faulds wrote.
>“If this had not been resolved, it would have created significant barriers to access, including for Indigenous people and people with disabilities, and in rural and remote areas, where patients experience difficulty attending in-person visits.”
>The deal only applies to specialists and family physicians with a special ministry-approved designation.
>“The OMA recognizes other unintended consequences for access to care because of the new virtual care framework, especially for patients of physicians who do not have a GP focused practice and for patients of specialist physicians who practice as a group,” Faulds wrote.
>She also said by “agreeing to the changes outlined above, the Ministry of Health will not accept any further negotiations relating to any other unintended consequences of the new virtual care framework prior to the next round of formal bargaining.”
>But the ministry remains “willing to discuss areas of concern” at a special committee, Faulds wrote.
>Dr. Michael Verbora, a physician based in Toronto who sees many of his patients virtually, was disappointed by the news.
>Verbora’s team treats 50,000 patients all over Ontario — many in far-flung parts — for serious illnesses such as cancer and epilepsy and palliative care patients with cannabinoid therapy.
>He said he’s had great results working with children who have cancer to help with their appetite and the side-effects of chemotherapy.
>But Verbora does not have a specialist diagnosis, so he is excluded from the deal, which means his payments will be cut by upwards of 70 per cent.
>“The government is making it impossible to run the clinic,” he said. “It’s really disappointing for me and for my patients — they don’t really know what to do.”
>About 1,000 children and thousands of elderly patients will either have to figure out how to see him and other doctors in his practice in person or lose access to medical cannabis, he said.
>Many of those children have epilepsy, he said, and are referred to him from pediatric neurologists at the Hospital for Sick Children because there are so few doctors practising in the area.
>“These are complex patients who require follow up and careful treatment,” he said
>Verbora said two physicians have already left his clinic because they couldn’t make their practice work when the new fees are put into place.
>He said he’s going to try to see as many patients as possible who can get to Toronto, but he now must consider options in the private health-care system to earn a living.
>“I can find other work, but what will my patients do?’ he said.


Teachers are probably going on strike Tuesday, I think I read a few days ago…


Yeah but even when states like Oklahoma and West Virginia pass bills "banning strikes" the teachers strike anyways and ball the bluff. What the fuck are you losers doing?


There is literally a teacher's strike happening on Friday. What are you complaining about?


Comrade Sid says enough is enough


CUPE members hit picket lines as indefinite Ontario education strike begins
>4k/day for striking per individual
based workers dgaf


Teacher's unions in Ontario have always been pretty based.


CUPE isn't a teacher's union, it's a public sector worker's union
Their education workers division represents all employees at public schools that aren't teachers or management


Quebec unions may actually join CUPE in the fight against Ford.


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quebec unions will join together with the culinary party in order to establish an unstoppable chef's coup against the government by poisoning all the opposition's food



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#GeneralStrikeON is trending, ngl I'm pleasantly surprised at how this is developing didn't think we had it in us.


CUPE's so-called "leadership" is composed of a bunch of sub-useless cucks.


The general strike was called off because the strike breaking legislation was immediately repealed. They're going back to work tomorrow while contract negotiations resume.


Well, guess we're stuck with 1-dollar beer guy until the heat death of the universe


idk the situation but it's still a win right?


An economic one, but not a political one


>Well, guess we're stuck with 1-dollar beer guy until the heat death of the universe
Idk about that. At the very least it seems that public opinion is overwhelmingly with the union on this one, and the fact that the draconian strike breaking legislation was met with threats of a general strike is encouraging to say the least. Honestly I never would have expected modern mainstream unions to go that far.
The other way around I would say. Killing Bill 28 means that organized labour still has the cajones to stand up to blatant strike breaking and Charter violations by the government, but it still remains to be seen whether a decent contract will be won for the CUPE workers.


Attebtion Comrade Roo
First that schizo dude that wanted to be busted out if he got chucked in a loony bin only to be euthanised two months after being committed now this
Plz explain
Or you can buddy Jreg we know You're here


do not engage


Why are these kind of fox news anti-eugenics.


And the schizo dude who got euthanised after being locked up?


>Clayton Morris (born December 31, 1976) is an American real estate investor and former television news anchor. He is also host of the Investing in Real Estate podcast along with YouTube channel Redacted.
This is who tankie anon shills?


Makes sense his wife is the smarter one
Now about the mentally disordered getting euthanised?


hate this fookin country like you wouldn't believe mates, simple as

someone give me a reason not to just completely check out permanently from this neverending terminal spectacle of a """""country"""""


canada canada or toronto canada?


canada canada, but im from the maritimes, cant tell if that helps or hinders my opinion


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Mini Constitutional Crisis going down rn


>someone give me a reason not to just completely check out permanently from this neverending terminal spectacle of a """""country"""""
Where would you go to?


are they going to do an australia in canada


Based Frogs.


Asia is pretty neae, anon. As long as you promise to not go to the Philippines and be a pedo economic rapist it's okay.


Cringe virtue signalling tbh
It’s not like they’re ever gonna actually secede

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