Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 22:44:25 No. 687371
Sorry this is a typo I meant to say USSR ">Hitler was a better man than people running the US and we should question the crimes attributed to him"
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 22:44:36 No. 687373
>>687370 <Transgenders and gays were in Nazi and soviet leadership and this is bad. wtf lmao
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 22:59:11 No. 687391
American schools are still pushing left vs right dichotomy? Didn’t your hs humanities teacher tell you fucks about the French Revolution only needing that then due to the way being sat but since then that left vs right system died since government policies are complex and can’t be simplified into literal directions?
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 22:59:41 No. 687392
>>687371 If this is recent you should have your teacher reported
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 23:01:33 No. 687396
>>687392 You don’t realize how badly educated is funded around these parts man. It’s like 1% of government expenditures and it shows considering a sizeable portion of the American populace like 90% are classified as functionally illiterate which is why we constantly need to keep importing migrants to fulfill jobs since our own education system is too unreliable to churn out professional workers, especially when you consider annual medical accident related deaths here
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 23:04:57 No. 687402
Ok so the experience I have with going to history class (when I was in school) is that it depended on the teacher, most teachers, I feel, are just thrown out into the world with a book and told to "teach" and that's it, so that's one reason why you get so different experiences. So, you got a far-right teacher. You could have gotten a left-wing or even far-left teacher in your school (which also tend to be the best teachers of History btw), but you didn't. I'm sorry for you.
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 23:06:54 No. 687405
>>687370 >USSR was part of the axis and never switched sites to the allies >USSR was Nazi Germanys ally to the end and thats why the cold war happened. >USSR did evil experiments on their entire population Would actually made if they put USA instead of USSR.
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 23:17:11 No. 687415
>>687370 >>Transgenders and gays were in Nazi and soviet leadership and this is bad. Show your teacher the Nazi badge system and Rohm getting Rohm'd.
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 23:43:56 No. 687437
No hope for America, pray China nukes it.
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 23:54:19 No. 687454
>>687445 How exactly is that going to work?
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-11 (Tue) 23:58:18 No. 687461
>>687454 I only envision mostly-out-of-school reading/study groups designed to critically analyze what they learn in school, and create their own programs for learning what the in-school curriculum leaves out (there is plenty to learn about American foreign policy history, for instance, that is often undertaught).
I'm not going to over-prescribe how it would look like. But generally speaking this could be something that high school students are capable of doing.
Anonymous 2022-01-11 (Tue) 23:59:26 No. 687463
>>687461 People are, in theory, capable of a lot of things, but the likelihood of most people subscribing to some leftist reading group seems pretty low. I mean I dunno, I guess it could work, but, yeah.
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:01:50 No. 687465
>>687454 >>687463 Possibly there could be somewhere online with a compilation of helpful resources for organizing such a thing. Like where to find books, papers, etc. on a topic and how to organize study or joint-reading sessions.
I tried something like this when I was in high school and I got about ten people. A lot of Gen Z people are politically minded these days to varying extents. There are plenty who are left-sympathetic or otherwise left-leaning already and willing to learn things. I mean you don't need to brand it with a hammer and sickle. Just the general grassroots structure of this could challenge the top-down nature of American education.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:03:55 No. 687466
>>687465 Fair enough. It's been a long time since I was at school. Maybe it is possible. Young people do seem a lot more politically engaged these days.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:04:04 No. 687468
>>687370 >US history teaching kids that Hitler is le good What times have we arrived in…?!
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:05:22 No. 687470
>>687445 >Gen Z I have no hope for this generation, especially those born in the years nearing Alpha. 90% are all shitlibs who just cuck themselves to mainstream bullshit.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:06:51 No. 687471
>>687411 >Right wing is economical freedoms for the privileged class and le white race only, because marginalized people deserved it.
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:09:10 No. 687476
>>687468 >>687470 An "anti critical race theory" bill proposed in Indiana right now includes a part suggesting arresting librarians for carrying contents that cast the Nazis as being of "low moral character".
https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/s1b25z/insane_indiana_senate_bill_167/ If the top-down Prussian-style education system in America isn't challenged it can and will worsen the situation, and it is not worth dismissively letting that happen.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:11:19 No. 687479
>>687476 >arresting librarians for carrying contents that cast the Nazis as being of "low moral character Jesus Christ…
Is this their last ditch brainwashing attempt to make people shill for cuntpitalism??? By TRYING TO PORTRAY FUCKING HITLER AS A SAVIOR??? Pathetic as fuck indeed!
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:12:55 No. 687483
>>687479 It's catching a lot of heat at the moment tbf
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/jan/11/gop-senator-backtracks-comments-nazism but that's the sort of outgrowth you'll get without grassroots self-education imo.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:15:55 No. 687489
>>687483 >>687479 >>687476 As usual it's a Redditor making shit up. Notice that reddit didn't include the text
This is what it actually says. Here is the bill
http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2022/bills/senate/167#document-859f4618 Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:17:28 No. 687492
>>687489 So yes, it says you can't say someone is a bad person because they're a Nazi
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:17:46 No. 687493
>>687489 The reddit quote is about a hearing that was held about the bill, concerning how it would be applied in real life.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/10/scott-baldwin-indiana-nazism-fascism/ Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:18:19 No. 687494
>>687492 The same case argument would fall for a person in Cuban communist party or communist party in china during Mao
It's nothing specific to Nazism and will not favor Nazis or communists as a bill.
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:19:48 No. 687497
>>687493 This should be the right archived video of the hearing
http://iga.in.gov/information/archives/2022/video/committee_education_and_career_development_3400/ Might be wrong though. But it's on that site somewhere, and the WaPo article says it's about 8 hours long so I guess this is the one.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:21:21 No. 687500
>>687494 Except it's a red state bill instituted to stop 'progressive degeneracy' aka cultural marxism, so how do you think it will be applied in practice?
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:24:02 No. 687505
>>687500 >Except it's a red state bill instituted to stop 'progressive degeneracy' aka cultural marxism The text is specific about any political party it says.
The redditor wrote it as if it described the Nazi party in particular.
On there grounds people who hate communist won't be able to disparage communist members just because they are part of that party. You cannot have it both ways saying it is to favor Nazis when it assist communist members for same reason
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:24:38 No. 687506
>>687505 But Republican alt-rightists will be the ones enforcing the bill
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:26:28 No. 687507
>>687506 Who don't like Nazism and the bill never had anything to do with Nazism. It was a misleading post by a redditor. This is why you don't get news from redditors and instead go to the source.
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:29:29 No. 687514
>>687507 The redditor is quoting from the hearing I linked above
>>687497 Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:31:53 No. 687521
>>687515 There isn't a single elected congressman in the usa or senator who views Nazi gemany favorably.
The vast majority view it as far left and muh socialist
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:32:49 No. 687522
>>687515 Arthur Jones was never elected. He just ran for office
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:33:10 No. 687523
>>687521 >The vast majority view it as far left and muh socialist Why do burgers have this mindset while in fact it's pretty much the opposite. If they were far left that surely would've called for infrastructure, health, transport, etc. bills.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 00:42:56 No. 687535
>>687514 This is what Washington post articles says. This doesn't favor Nazism. This is some libertarian/centrist guy who thinks all "authoritarianism" is the same. Again the Redditor was completely misleading saying it as if it's to defend or favor nazis
>“Marxism, Nazism, fascism … I have no problem with the education system providing instruction on the existence of those ‘isms,’ ” said Baldwin, who co-wrote the bill. “I believe that we’ve gone too far when we take a position. … We need to be impartial.” >“Nazism, Marxism and fascism are a stain on our world history and should be regarded as such, and I failed to adequately articulate that in my comments during the meeting,” Baldwin said. “I believe that kids should learn about these horrible events in history so that we don’t experience them again in humanity.”Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 01:45:18 No. 687642
>>687415 tbf Rohm didn't get Rohm'd because he was gay, they just used that as an excuse afterwards.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 03:46:36 No. 687775
>>687479 Remember that capitalism in decay is fascism.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 03:54:17 No. 687784
>>687370 >Hur hur, Nazis were LEFTIST, because LEFTISM is about GOVERNMENT DOING STUFF I fucking hate this talking point so much, because it is a statement which singlehandedly proves how fucked our education system is in the US. When I was in school, they literally taught us that socialism = some government control, communism is the government controlling everything, and capitalism = no government. I genuinely believe that this was created by right wing "libertarians" to help bolster modern day neoliberalism.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 03:55:51 No. 687786
>>687370 You should thank them for being so schizo and preposterous in their mandatory lies
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 03:59:37 No. 687793
>>687642 well why did he get rohm'd then? was he a proto-socialist or something?
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 04:16:54 No. 687813
>>687793 he was a strasserist and he got rohm'd for that reason
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 07:16:06 No. 687959
Greetings from Burgerstan. I will brief how WWII was taught to me. Im sure it will vary across the country. >Hitler started the war >Stalin was on the side of the good guys >It was right for US to join the war >Hitler's wing never mentioned just mentioned being authoritarian >mainly focused on Holocaust and minorities killed not Slavs and soldiers mentioned as much >Stalin wasn't really talked about much >The USSR helped defeat the Nazis though US and UK get credited more and bad weather is blamed for Nazis losing that one battle. >No mention of Communism or Soviets good or bad. >Mao is never mentioned much ever in any way >Japanese war crimes not mentioned >It was really bad the US nuked Japan and regretable a retaliation for Pearl Harbor but no mention of it being unnecessary to win the war so it's arguably implied it had to happen to end the war >The US rounding up the Japanese was also wrong >Never was taught about the cold war so no red scare tactics
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-12 (Wed) 07:22:47 No. 687962
>>687959 I would actually rate my history education as quite good overall (I did learn about the Cold War, that is very bizarre to hear that you didn't). But at this point I've heard enough people's anecdotes about what they learned in school in the U.S. with a lack of hearing about good educations happening here that I think it's a country-wide problem how bad it is and I just happened to get somewhat lucky with good teachers.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 07:30:48 No. 687966
>>687962 Point I was making that although lackluster quality of education at least it wasn't anti leftist propoganda like OP thought it all is.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 07:43:20 No. 687972
>>687968 I don't know what else you expected from him tbh.
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-12 (Wed) 07:47:51 No. 687975
>>687968 https://books.google.com/books?id=QNB0K3hCohMC&pg=PA183#v=onepage&q&f=false https://www.instagram.com/p/CAoIB87jpMC/?hl=en From Huey Newton:
People say, “You claim to be Marxists, but did you know that Marx was a racist?” We say, “He probably was a racist: he made a statement once about the marriage of a white woman and a black man, and he called the black man a gorilla or something like that.” The Marxists claim he was only kidding and that the statement shows Marx’s closeness to the man, but of course that is nonsense. So it does seem that Marx was a racist.
Now if you are a Marxist, then Marx’s racism affects your own judgment because a Marxist is someone who worships Marx and the thought of Marx. Remember, though, that Marx himself said, “I am not a Marxist.” Such Marxists cherish the conclusions which Marx arrived at through his method, but they throw away the method itself—leaving themselves in a totally static posture. That is why most Marxists really are historical materialists: they look to the past to get answers for the future, and that does not work.
If you are a dialectical materialist, however, Marx’s racism does not matter. You do not believe in the conclusions of one person but in the validity of a mode of thought; and we in the Party, as dialectical materialists, recognize Karl Marx as one of the great contributors to that mode of thought. Whether or not Marx was a racist is irrelevant and immaterial to whether or not the system of thinking he helped to develop delivers truths about processes in the material world. And this is true in all disciplines. In every discipline you find people who have distorted visions and are at a low state of consciousness who nonetheless have flashes of insight and produce ideas worth considering. For instance, John B. Watson once stated that his favorite pastime was hunting and hanging nggers, yet he made great forward strides in the analysis and investigations of conditioned responses.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 07:55:45 No. 687983
>>687959 Here's mine.
>Hitler started the war >There was an eastern front. Nothing interesting happened there. Hardly worth mentioning actually. >Hitler bombed London. Other port cities too, but mostly London. >Children were evacuated to Narnia. >(In excruciating detail) The hardships suffered by suburbanites digging up their gardens to build an air-raid shelter. >Hitler bombed London using V-1s >Hitler bombed London using V-2s >Barnes Wallis and Alan Turing BTFO Hitler with facts and logic. >Operation Chariot. Rekt! >There was fighting in Africa. >Some harbor got attacked >Operation overlord (with yankee assistance) >Hitler offed himself like a nonce >End of history Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 07:55:53 No. 687984
>>687975 >So it does seem that Marx was a racist. Not in any meaningful sense of the word.
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-12 (Wed) 08:01:27 No. 687990
>>687984 I honestly think it's going to be more productive to quote Huey than to try to convince anybody that throwing around "Jewish nigger" isn't racist by 21st century sensibilities (they are going to ignore the principle of judging people by the standards of their own time when it suits them, although, Huey hints at that himself a little bit IMO).
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 08:05:19 No. 687994
> For reference my state is Louisiana. Yeah the American South is basically Hell, why are you still there? You realize the average normie southerner is basically a fascoid? And no, I don’t mean the city folk.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 08:13:06 No. 687997
>>687470 100% of Gen Z also live in a crumbling world where the contradictions of both US and world capitalism are heightening to an untenable level
Older Gen Z are of age to take up arms and fight, millennials are of age to lead, generations preceding are of age to teach, and Gen Alpha are who we should be fighting for
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 08:26:41 No. 688005
>>687370 Have a Russian or Jew (or even better: both) respond to this taking deep offense saying it insults the memory of their ancestors who fought an died to liberate their Soviet homeland from a genocidal imperialist enemy.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 08:45:36 No. 688019
>>687984 I don't think he was either, not by the standards of the day, but you'd have treat his statements historically, and most people are unwilling or unable to do that. Huey Newton's point is essentially right: if you understand Marx, whether he was a racist or not, or a good or bad person overall doesn't matter.
You might still want to defend Marx if you know the charges are false. I have before, although I do that even for figures I have little sympathy for ideologically, like Plato and Locke, if I think they're being grotesquely misconstrued.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 09:20:41 No. 688051
>>687968 my nostrils exploded when i read that, goddamn that's some funny shit
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 10:27:31 No. 688102
>>687990 Well, i understand where you are coming from and not necessarily disagree. Tho you might also ask "if someone asks you to prositute your daughter, would calling him jewish nigger be an acceptable response?".
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-12 (Wed) 10:30:54 No. 688106
>>688102 did Lassalle unironically do that
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 10:43:04 No. 688123
>>688106 http://hiaw.org/defcon6/works/1862/letters/62_07_30a.html Marx-Engels Correspondence 1862
Marx To Engels In Manchester
<The Jewish n—– Lassalle who, I’m glad to say, is leaving at the end of this week, has happily lost another 5,000 talers in an ill-judged speculation. The chap would sooner throw money down the drain than lend it to a ‘friend’, even though his interest and capital were guaranteed. In this he bases himself on the view that he ought to live the life of a Jewish baron, or Jew created a baron (no doubt by the countess). Just imagine! This fellow, knowing about the American affair, etc., and hence about the state of crisis I’m in, had the insolence to ask me whether I would be willing to hand over one of my daughters to la Hatzfeldt as a ‘companion’, and whether he himself should secure Gerstenberg’s (!) patronage for me! Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 10:44:29 No. 688125
>>688123 (me)
I believe Engels wrote a letter to Lassalle after than and used some racial slurs too, but i don't remember which ones exactly.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 10:45:00 No. 688127
>>688102 >If someone told you to prostitute your daughter, would insulting blacks and jews be an acceptable response? No?
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 10:47:15 No. 688128
>>688127 In my private message history i said much worse things about people i had less reasons to dislike than Marx had to dislike Lassalle, so i will hold a different opinion on that. At the very least it gives a different context to it.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 10:49:12 No. 688130
>>688128 And….what does disliking LaSalle have to do with insulting blacks and Jews? Which is what he actually did.
>I’ve said worst things So you’ve gone on full blown racist tirades?
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 10:55:50 No. 688134
>>688130 >And….what does disliking LaSalle have to do with insulting blacks and Jews? Do you understand how slurs work, wokehead?
Also this means he kinda insulted himself too, being a jew, no?
>So you’ve gone on full blown racist tirades?If you consider example above a "full blown racist tirade" than yes, i guess.
>LaSallehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Lassalle Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 11:03:34 No. 688140
>>688134 > Do you understand how slurs work, wokehead? That’s exactly how slurs work, yes
Why should I be sympathetic towards Marx implicitly insulting me, as a black man, in calling Lassalle a nighur? I don’t give a shit about his daughter. Am I supposed to not take it as an insult because it isn’t personally directed at me? Because it’s coming from Marx who you think I should worship? Calling someone a “nighur” and a jew as the big terrible insult is effectively stating, what, being African is contemptible? That slurs are the proper way to refer to an African? Maybe it doesn’t bother you because you’re a white person, but I see the insult for what it is.
> Also this means he kinda insulted himself too, being a jew, no? You genuinely think Marx saw himself as a Jew? You realize Judaism is matrilineal for starters?
> If you consider example above a "full blown racist tirade" than yes, i guess. I consider the above racist, would you not? If you’ve gone much further than that statement then no wonder you think it’s justifiable.
>Oh no, you misspelled his name So fuckin what?
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 11:12:49 No. 688150
>>688140 >That’s exactly how slurs work, yes They can be used against a whole group or against a specific person, so no it seems you don't. Most likely you are some concern troll from /pol/.
>You genuinely think Marx saw himself as a Jew? You realize Judaism is matrilineal for starters?You think when people discriminate against jewish people or insult them it is on the basis of religion only? I don't remember nazis caring wherever the person sent in gas chamber was practicing judaism or simply being jew ethnically. I believe 1/8 of the blood was enough. Being a jew myself and not practicing judaism i can tell you that you are just full of shit.
>I consider the above racist, would you not?Because i am not an idiot, i guess. Words have different meaning depending on context, there is no intrinsic properties to any words we use.
>So fuckin what?You were the one trying to correct my spelling in the first place i believe.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 11:18:26 No. 688153
>>688150 > They can be used against a whole group or against a specific person, so no it seems you don't. Most likely you are some concern troll from /pol/. <Uhhh ackshually calling this dude a nighur was only directed at him, not all blacks, really you must be from /pol/ to say this is indefensible, don’t you realize that every single thing Marx has ever said or done is correct and good because he was the prophet? Yea you definitely aren’t treating politics like a religion
>You think when people discriminate against jewish people or insult them it is on the basis of religion only? I don't remember nazis caring wherever the person sent in gas chamber was practicing judaism or simply being jew ethnically. I believe 1/8 of the blood was enough. Being a jew myself and not practicing judaism i can tell you that you are just full of shit. And all of this justifies insulting blacks and jews, how exactly?
This is such a meaningless conversation because you gain literally nothing from defending this and similarly lose nothing from just admitting that, yea, it actually was shitty; but do manage to make yourself look like an asshole by defending it
> Because i am not an idiot, i guess. Words have different meaning depending on context, there is no intrinsic properties to any words we use. Oh yeah, I forgot, calling someone a nighur as an insult isn’t racist if…uh…the right type of white dude says it? Idk
Oh wait, was it part of the fundamental law of the universe that a socialist cannot be a racist?
> You were the one trying to correct my spelling in the first place i believe. I wasn’t trying to “correct you” dipshit, I just spelled his name wrong
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 11:20:07 No. 688154
>>688153 Whatever. Back to /pol/
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 11:22:21 No. 688156
>>688154 Funny how
>Back to /pol/ Is the response when you’re told that calling someone a “Jewish nigger” as an insult genuinely is a racist and not actually defensible statement no matter how you trying twisting around, slippery eel cunt
Fucking coward bitch, guess that’s all you could ever really say, that is, fucking nothing
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 11:22:33 No. 688157
>>688140 >I don’t like Marx because he was a 19th century german and had the attitudes and vocabulary of one That’s fine and well. But was his economic and political theory wrong? He probably would see an indian like me as detestable, but I don’t give a shit about that because I will never have to interact with him and his only relevance to me is through reading his theory. I trust you won’t tar antiracist communists with the same brush as you do for Marx at any rate.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 11:23:19 No. 688158
>>688154 I guess Huey Newton was also a /pol/yp nazi based off his above quoted statement, eh, suburbanite pasty imageboard user?
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 11:26:12 No. 688160
>>688157 Lmao “You don’t like Marx”?
What is this middle school shit?
I think Marx’s analysis of capitalism was adequate and that nonetheless modern Marxists have few practical solutions or approaches to modern issues because they’re more obsessed with debating 19th and 20th Century history than coming up with plans for dealing with problems in our current world
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 11:32:04 No. 688164
>>688161 I’m trying to think of a response but what you said made so little sense I honestly don’t know what to say
Do you think my point was that Marx is outdated because most westerners aren’t Marxists? Honestly I don’t think Marx is “outdated”, I think Marxists are mostly useless though because it’s not like the ones I’ve seen are doing things like theorizing a way to start a new political movement, lead a revolution, counter the climate crisis, or really anything even remotely useful
I mostly see them arguing amongst themselves about who to give meaningless support to in geopolitics, arguing over what people in the past should have done (which is pointless since you can’t change that past anyway), and arguing over what interpretation of Marx, Lenin, Engels, Mao, etc. is most correct
And I wish I could say the problem was just on leftypol, or online, but it isn’t, it seems to be a thing for the western communist parties in general by and large
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 11:36:27 No. 688167
>>688164 >Western >The ones I’ve seen Those words are doing a lot of legwork for you. And again, there is literally nothing in the past worth discussing to understand why it went wrong and what must be done differently?
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 11:37:20 No. 688169
>>688165 I think you are taking this closer to heart than you should. Like, it's not really surprising and a typical rightoid propaganda channel behaviour.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 12:11:47 No. 688185
>>687793 What the other anon said, and because Roehm was leader of millions of SA men, who likewise had a Strasserist streak as many were recruited from the lower class. Meanwhile Hitler technically had only 100,000 troops at his disposal per the Treaty of Versailles. IIRC fears of "counter revolution" were echoed by Hindenburg who provoked Hitler to finally take action with an ultimatum. So they fabricated the Roehm putsch conspiracy to lend a pretext to the blood purge; "Roehm gay" was secondary.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 12:16:44 No. 688189
>>688187 >contact info: https://thatsworking.com/legal-notice/ email or call them and tell them what you think about their video!
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 12:20:31 No. 688195
>>688187 >central/eastern europe every time
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2022-01-12 (Wed) 12:53:27 No. 688217
>>688169 just amazed how low effort the circlejerking is for something apparently shown in schools
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 19:14:17 No. 688588
>>687370 >Louisiana Sorry to hear it. also are you a high school student
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 19:19:34 No. 688590
>>688189 I don't get it what is that website even about?
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 19:53:16 No. 688609
>>688164 Lasalle deserved the insult of jewnig and much worse.
Fuck him and fuck you for concern trolling and wasting everyone's.
Sincrely,
A Proud Kike
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 19:57:08 No. 688612
>>688156 Back to Twatter with you, Marx is imageboard culture approved with 19th century equivalent of 56% posting.
7ko 2022-01-12 (Wed) 20:03:49 No. 688619
>>687370 Is this recent or quite some time ago? Is this from college, high school, or
elementary underage b& ? The AP class might be better, although since the U.S. is a bourgeois dictatorship it's not gonna be that good either. And yeah it often depends on the teacher.
bloodgasm 2022-01-12 (Wed) 20:21:26 No. 688626
>>688128 >>687979 >>687975 This
>>688102 >>688123 >>688125 >>688127 >>688128 >>688130 >>688134 >>688140 This is literally falling into the trap the dumbfuck conservitard laid when they responded to my comment. Arguing about whether Marx was racist or justified in using racist language only helps to muddy the waters and allows assholes like that to justify and slander socialism as a whole.
Instead of bickering amongst yourselves you can comment in that video yourselves and elaborate why they are factually wrong like I did.
I am not "us" as stated here
>>687968 .
You should not wait on someone to call out a lie you know is wrong. Do it yourself or better yet, "we" all do it together. This is a basis of anti-fascist action. And I say antifa because I have strong feelings that this "thatsworking" group is actually crypto-fash.
bloodgasm 2022-01-12 (Wed) 20:24:10 No. 688627
>>688626 sorry but I need to add context: when I mean "justify" I meant justify their argument that national socialism is socialism. Sorry I forgot to fil that in.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 20:31:57 No. 688635
Where does the video state there were trans-nazis? Or was this something your teacher added? As a german I´d be highly interested in knowing where the fuck he got that from, especially since he is german himself (thus obviously consciously falsifying history)
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 20:55:41 No. 688654
>>688106 yes, he really was a jewish nigger faggot
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 21:03:35 No. 688662
>>688130 lasalle was jew and proud of it. And he was definitely someone who'd make me use the worst slur i could recall
>>688130 >So you’ve gone on full blown racist tirades? at that time, calling someone uyghur was prolly not different than calling someone a cunt without actually referring to the female genitals. thats how most slurs works, after some time, they've become new words and loose all their charged meaning other than the specific intention to hurt the one you throw it at.
also, a line of insult is not a tirade. and ive called people autists or "tapette"(fag with coward connotation) or whore without being prejudiced against any of those, using the slur sense of the words (pretty sure the targets got it too)
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 21:04:04 No. 688663
>>688654 did the uyghur filter get removed ?
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 21:06:00 No. 688666
>>687370 >nazi apologia shown in school in many country you could get the teacher fired over this
try it, at least he might get into trouble
bloodgasm 2022-01-12 (Wed) 21:10:01 No. 688669
>>688666 Demon trips, get that teacher reported OP.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 21:18:26 No. 688681
>>688663 Yes, but only for jewish niggers
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 21:29:40 No. 688698
>>687968 >He literally has no rebuttal so he defaults to saying a man who lived in the 1800's was kinda racist My fucking sides.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 21:33:02 No. 688704
>>688626 By the way, the guy also turned off the comment section. I'm not kidding, look back at the link.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 23:04:53 No. 688818
>>688708 Scratch a liberal and fascist bleeds. Fuck off, radlib trash.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 23:43:04 No. 688881
>>688608 the nazi would say that he's """third position""" tho
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 23:47:47 No. 688891
>>687784 Ngl but "socialism is when guvment do stuff" is unironically one of the most retarded talking points out there.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 23:48:48 No. 688897
>>688870 Fuck off, anprim larper. To Twitter. And never come back. Because you'd definitely like it, for there's where you circlejerk.
Anonymous 2022-01-12 (Wed) 23:52:18 No. 688903
>>687968 Peak retard levels indeed
>>688156 It may be "racist," but also realize that you yourself is a shitlib who deserves a place in Twitter, not here.
Anonymous 2022-01-13 (Thu) 00:12:50 No. 688940
>>687370 >>688912 How did your teacher even find a vid with 100 views? Are you sure he didn't make it himself?
Anonymous 2022-01-13 (Thu) 00:18:18 No. 688946
>>688940 >Are you sure he didn't make it himself? Plot twist: his teacher is the one who runs the channel
Anonymous 2022-01-13 (Thu) 00:20:01 No. 688950
>>687370 >>688946 And it was uploaded just a week before OP
Anonymous 2022-01-13 (Thu) 00:23:48 No. 688963
>>688940 the channel and the website were created by some czechs
Anonymous 2022-01-13 (Thu) 00:28:18 No. 688975
>>688881 As an alternative to capitalism and socialism, not left or right. Call them a leftist, and they will recoil.
302 Found !!IUqB8Cp/4A 2022-01-13 (Thu) 00:29:53 No. 688980
>>688950 >And it was uploaded just a week before OP Who knows OP's subject in that educational institution is this
bloodgasm 2022-01-13 (Thu) 01:12:33 No. 689035
>>688187 I did a little digging into this "thatsworking" group. It seems to be a wife and husband from the Czech Republic. The wife seems (at least from what i can tell) to be the writer of the blog. The blog itself seems like a standard self-help guidance blog which makes the sudden political video seem all the more jarring.
The narrator of OPs vid is obviously male and most likely the husband. His online presence is barely anything (The wife has a somewhat up to date facebook page and a stagnant twitter).
The youtube channel was started over two years ago with the same type of videos you'd expect a self-help blogger to have. Nothing out the ordinary. The video itself is actually really well done from a video production standpoint, especially compared to the previous vids.
My guess, they are being radicalized by some far-right source. Or else they always held these views and decided to come out now about it.
I hope they realize they are wrong and eventually break out of this fascist pipeline. Or perhaps they always held these stupid beliefs, them they could go fuck themselves.
Now this all leads to OP's teacher. If we can go by what OP said as true and they are a student in burgerland then it is impossible that they are the maker of the vid because according to the blog the husband and wife are located in CZ.
This also leads to the question of how did OP's teachers hear of this vid. Remember, the youtube channel as well as the blog never discussed anything political beforehand and are both virtually unknown.
My guess: the teacher knows these two Czechs (whether personally or though alternate online connections/personas). My question to OP would be this, is your teacher from CZ and if so was this teacher very out front about their conservative political background?
If in fact they are connected with these two Czechs then this might clear up many things. If they are all connected this might reveal that the answers to why the fuck this insane Nazi shit was created and shown to students. The alternate personas these people use as well as the online circles they frequent could in well (to the very least) be conservative or (to the very most) outright fascist. I don't know. Food for thought OP.
You should have your teacher reported for this OP, even by American standards this is some seriously fucked up shit that might actually get them fired.
Anonymous 2022-01-13 (Thu) 01:30:04 No. 689067
>>689035 >they are being radicalized by some far-right source doubt
whining about muh national SOCIALISM!!!1 = gommulizm is your typical neocon/neolib bullshit. even american corporate media do that
Anonymous 2022-01-13 (Thu) 09:08:32 No. 689479
>>688897 I feel like this anprim flagfag was previously leftcom flagfag for some reason.
Anonymous 2022-01-13 (Thu) 09:12:29 No. 689480
>>688932 >Fucking repugnant worm Disgusting lookist. Worse than racist.
Anonymous 2022-01-13 (Thu) 09:14:54 No. 689481
>>689035 At this point this feels like promotion of some unknown rightoid channel in hope that enraged leftypol users will go and comment something and give views.
Who gives a fuck?
Anonymous 2022-01-13 (Thu) 12:08:31 No. 689569
>>689035 Fucking czechs. Almost as bad as the psheks
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