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 No.688944

Redpill me in this economic system. (If you are a Muslim, your takes are welcomed)
Is it a viable alternative to capitalism? Is it compatible with socialism? And should a country run itself with this system, is it prone to becoming socialist?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_economics

 No.688951

I heard it's partly based on LTV. Is this true? Seconding OP's inquiry.

 No.688960

>>688951
>Is this true? Seconding OP's inquiry
idk man, had no idea; but mostly false i think?

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 No.688974

>>688962
Islamic banking and Islamic economics are two different entirely different concepts.

 No.688994

>>688944
Religious sentiments from a bajjillion years ago aren't any more religious than any other sentiment (religious scripture is a source of constant revelation, and unless you don't believe in causation that means the scriptura reveals itself to have multiple meanings), you have to take a realist approach to politics (and realize that atheism is just Protestantism, Calvinism if you're an Anglo, Lutheranism in some other cases). That being said, if you for whatever reason want to make a connection between Islamic and Marxist economics in order to develop an idea for how the to can mingle for political reasons, check out Ibn Khaldun. Do it anyways actually. All in all anon, stick to Marx he was a good boy. Him and Freud, top ten Jews for sure. fucking hate Jung.
>And should a country run itself with this system, is it prone to becoming socialist?
Islamic economics was nascent capitalist economics at it's best, feudal economics at it's worst (well it sounds I'm making ahistorical value judgements here, but I mean it in terms of usefulness to a potential workers movement).

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>>688994
>and realize that atheism is just Protestantism
stopped reading, started laughing

 No.689003

>>689000
You are a Calvinist

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>>689003
I'm more of a Hobbesian

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>>689011
Nah you're a Calvinist, western atheism is inherently a degraded form of Christianity (not essentializing, that's it's lineage and how it functions).

 No.689017

>>689015
tbh christianity is just falsified judaism.

 No.689026

Do you understand how a government in the modern day works? Read wealth of nations by Adam Smith, or the one of taxes by David Ricardo. They lay out how a government raises money and how it sets a budget. There is no "islamoeconomics", unless it is the church some how taxing the people so in that case what? There's a church that raises taxes and a government body? Nah. Every government in the world is the same give or take, unless it is feudalistic in which case it raises money by a tax on the land it self paid by peasants, which isn't the case anymore. The only distinguishing feature in the modern day when it comes to economics is how the state raises taxes and how it spends them. An evolution from this form is one where the government no longer taxes but powers itself by production itself which is communist.

 No.689027

>>689017
I mean at a time you could argue it. Degraded was the wrong word to use but I can't think of another. but yeah, at the time if you were some Jew would would have heard about a Davidic claimant to Jewish Kingship who taught resistance against Rome and that he was the Messiah and you would have thought "oh another zealot movement". There is a certain point at which this was no longer the case and calling Christianity Jewish in any meaningful way stopped being applicable. Hell, considering early Muslims prayed towards Jerusalem and had a lot in common with the early Judaizing Christians, I wouldn't fault someone for saying early Islam was a Judaizing Christian movement before Muslims made greater efforts to develop into their own thing. Atheism is still just Calvinism though. Maybe it can developed into something more, maybe that's what'll happen in a communist world. I'm religious so I obviously don't think religion will evaporate on impact when international communism comes about.

 No.689082

>>689027

The absence of belief in gods and/or the supernatural predates both Islam and christianity (And other major religions like Buddhism)

How do you deal with pre-christian atheists like Epicurus?

 No.689105

>>689082

*I should correct myself; Epicurus was more of epistemic skeptic than an atheist per say; But you get the idea, atheistic views have been around pretty much as long as theistic ones, and there is often a dialectic philosophical currents that lean towards one or the other.

 No.689111

>>689082
>>689105
That their atheism grew out of their own traditions and norms, but to some degree philosophy is separate from religion, and I think philosophical atheism and something like we see today with modern atheism are tow separate phenomenon. Just like the difference between monotheism and monism, where the latter is only really something discussed philosophically. Although I guess that is due in large part to the spread of western culture. Mind you I'm not saying this to own atheists or whatever, I just genuinely think that's an accurate view of how atheism form in the modern west. Not a new take of course.

 No.689338

>>688944
it’s unbridled capitalism but with a few moral stipulations on finance, so kind of like protestantism


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