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 No.70505[Last 50 Posts]

This thread will be dedicated to the upcoming Feb 7 elections in Ecuador.

The three main contenders are
Andres Arauz (Correista, so socdem but antiimperialism pilled)
Guillermo Lasso (literal comprador porky)
Yaku Perez (cringe indigenous idpol candidate)

The stakes of these elections, besides governing a country of 17 million people:

-Possibility of further breaking the blockade in Venezuela
-Some benefits for Cuba
-Possibility to definitely affirm the rebirth of leftism in Latin America as a force in ascent
-(Maybe) Some more support for Peruvian leftist candidates in the upcoming elections in April

And last but not least the possibility of making some Porklets somewhere shake in their boots as stated by Bloomberg in this article:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-05/why-ecuador-s-sunday-vote-matters-for-the-bond-market-quicktake


Hoping this thread will get busy and good as the Bolivian one pre-split was.
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 No.70509

>>70505
im sorry, so are we rooting for the socdems then?
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 No.70512

>>70509
Yeah we are.
There could also be an emergency scenario if the rightoids try to cheat though, in which case…
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 No.70525

>>70505
>Andres Arauz (Correista, so socdem but antiimperialism pilled)
I'm assuming this guy has a history that backs up his antimperialism?
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 No.70530

>>70525
He was head of the central bank, and his first plan is to tell the IMF to go suck it's shriveled up dick.
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 No.70555

I miss the /lat/ thread
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 No.70560

>Yaku Perez
Why would a rural minority organization run candidates in a presidential race? aren't they always going to do poorly
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 No.70564

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>There could also be an emergency scenario if the rightoids try to cheat though, in which case…
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 No.70582

>>70505
>Yaku Perez (cringe indigenous idpol candidate)
Quick rundown? What makes him cringe?
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 No.70596

>>70582
A quick look at this guy's party reveals that he appears to be a Ecuadorian Evo Morales.
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 No.70601

File: 1612628386567-0.mp4 (6.23 MB, 1280x720, progintl.mp4)

File: 1612628386567-1.mp4 (6.23 MB, 1280x720, progintl2.mp4)

Some insightful material:

>The Grayzone

<Ecuador's historic election explained: Inside the Citizens' Revolution
https://youtu.be/7BGSDlJg3vQ

>Progressive International

<We are mobilizing to Ecuador. Here’s why.
https://progressive.international/wire/2021-01-27-we-are-mobilizing-to-ecuador-heres-why/en
https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1357885030148767745
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 No.70659

>>70582
Idk like splitting the anti comprador vote as a first and the fact that the indigenous trade unions which he represents were instrumental in avoiding the escalation of the riots that started in October 2019 and that at one point forced Lenin Moreno to escape the capital.
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 No.70689

>>70560
Ecuador is like 20-33% indigenous. On top of that the MUPP did get a president elected (although he turned out to be a glowie that tried to help the coup against Correa in '10).
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 No.70691

>>70582
MUPP have a history of glowing:
>He [former MUPP president Lucio Gutierrez] is alleged to have instigated the 2010 police revolt against Correa. He has fervently denied the allegations claiming that he was in Washington D.C. attending an event at the Inter-American Defense College (of which he is an alumnus), then traveled to Miami to attend a conference on the Socialism of the 21st century and finally to serve as an observer in the Brazilian presidential poll. He has further stated that the whole event was fabricated.[10]

>A special commission formed by Correa in 2013 to investigate the events has claimed that he and his party plotted, along with the fugitive Isaias brothers (former owners of Filanbanco who reside in Miami after fleeing during the 1998-2000 banking crisis), former chief of intelligence Mario Pazmiño (accused by Correa of working with the CIA and of being involved in the Colombian attack against Ecuadorian territory in 2008 which killed FARC leader Raúl Reyes and sparked a regional crisis) as well as others.[11][12]
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 No.70697

>>70530
Correa (for whom I assume thus guy acts as a proxy) also sheltered Julian Assange and has recently been appearing in podcasts/Zoom conferences of communist parties. He's not a socialist but a decent guy. A victory of Arauz would help to shift the overton window in Latin America, and further undermine the ultra-right front on this continent that was created by Trump and Bolsonaro; which would give further breathing space for the struggles of Venezuela and Cuba.
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 No.70707

>>70505
I've heard from the grapevine that Arauz is favored to win. Especially due to the protests that happened in the country in 2019 and 2020. Is this true or just a bunch of fake hype from leftists?
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 No.70710

>>70707
Yes, check the links here: >>70601
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 No.70723

>>70707
He's favored but fraud is not out of the question from rightoids, especially cause his possible fist turn victory is on a razor thin margin.
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 No.70728

>>70691
When even wikipedia acknowledges that you glow
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 No.70742

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>>70697
>and further undermine the ultra-right front on this continent that was created by Trump and Bolsonaro
<that was created by Trump and Bolsonaro
Jesus, how old are you anon?
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 No.70866

>>70742
Trump only accelerated it, Obama started it. But this is a permanent activity and foreign policy from gringos.
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 No.70873

>>70866
Any prediction bout these elections Chavistanon?
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 No.70912

>>70873
Everything seems to point to an Arauz victory. However I think the right reactionaries, OAS and whatever are going to try to prevent a first turn/round/lap win.

Nevertheless, we also have to keep an eye for Yaku Perez. I saw his intervention in one debate broadcasted by TeleSur and he is literally indigenous/native idpol, saying things like "Let's forget about neoliberalism, capitalism, socialism and communism which don't do us good" something along those lines, I think he seems ideologically empty, and could sway away some votes.

As a Venezuelan I have to agree with this anon >>70697. Venezuela isn't socialist in it's practice as a whole, but if Venezuela fails, socialism as a movement in Latin America could be dealt a serious blow. As socialists we should understand this context and even if Arauz is a socdem, he would relieve pressure and provide a window for cooperation between our countries, rejoining ALBA-ICP, UNASUR and CELAC would be a step in the right direction for union and multilateralism in our region, which could provide a better environment for implementing socialist measures in the near future.
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 No.70917

Was Correa actually a socialist? Noted Anti-Imperialist™ Ben Norton tells me he had "socialist policies".
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 No.71004

>>70917
It was a socdem+Anti imperialist, which is pretty damn good for a Third World nation
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 No.71020

>>71004
Is it even appropriate to call him a socdem? His hero is Thomas Piketty.
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 No.71040

>>71020
Piketty is quite socdem iirc.
He's a postkeynesian, which is to say OG socdems knowing where to put their hands on, even if ultimately not abolishing capitalism.
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 No.71046

>>71040
Piketty has never even read Marx much less anything by Kautsky or whoever else. He's just another oblivious Keynesian.
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 No.71059

>>71046
You literally stated again what i said.
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 No.71081

>>71059
Socdems at least carry pretensions of reforming to socialism. Keynesians just want to stabilize capitalism.
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 No.71088

>>71081
After Bad Godesberg the two are one and the same
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 No.71150

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>>71088
>Bad Godesberg (Kölsch: Bad Jodesbersch) is a municipal district of Bonn, southern North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany.
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 No.71183

>>71157
Gross.
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 No.71410

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Chile is going to be interesting.
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 No.71431

>>71410
We need a left victory today. Then we can get REAL on the fight.
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 No.71455

>>71431
That is what the independents are, mostly..
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 No.71462

I have seen polling data that said Arauz would win the first round but narrowly lose the second to a lot of candidates.
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 No.71465

>>71410
Can someone explain to a brainlet the situation in Chile and the possibility of a far left victory in the next election?
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 No.71483

>>71465
So they had a referendum late last year to abolish the old Pinochetista constitution and call a constituent assembly (think a parliament or congress but specifically for writing a new constitution). If that poll is anything to go by, the left may have a supermajority in this new chamber. "Independent lists" basically mean independent leftists, as the protests that lead to the referendum in the first place mostly existed outside of the traditional party system.
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 No.71491

>A guy named Lenin is a pro-U.S. neoliberal
LatAm really is a cursed place
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 No.71543

>>71462
>but narrowly lose the second to a lot of candidates.
What do you mean? Isn't the second round held by only two candidates?
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 No.71571

>>71543
As in any other candidates that could potentially be in 2nd place would narrowly win over Aruaz. He needs a complete blowout to win the whole thing, at least assuming the polling data I came across is accurate.
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 No.71722

>>71491
Retard take
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 No.71992

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Big if true.
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 No.71994

>>71992
>Big
Are you aware this is a first turn loss?
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 No.71995

>>71994
Yes, and it is expected most of the MUPP votes will go to Arauz. Lasso at 21% is him massively under performing.
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 No.72011

https://twitter.com/MashiRafael/status/1358550142438227968

Correa is very hopeful, let's see how it goes.
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 No.72013

>>72011
"We got a 2 to 1 advantage on the banker"
This what Arauz said

https://twitter.com/ecuarauz/status/1358536215893602305
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 No.72028

File: 1612739606446.png (940.4 KB, 1500x1334, Lenin Comparisons.png)

Something Ecuadorian related that was on bunker /ref/
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 No.72032

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 No.72037

Rumors that Arauz victory is larger than the exit polls show. Still a first turn victory is unlikely.
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 No.72039

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>>72028
This is the only Lenin moreno I like.
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 No.72040

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 No.72071

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 No.72085

>>72071
UPDATE: It seems the exit poll don't count the exterior vote, which is 60% for Arauz.
The real results are probably better than thought.
Still i see hard for Arauz to reach 40%.
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 No.72102

Do we have any Ecuadorian comrades in here?
BR here, this, the Chilean referendum and Arce's election gives me hope, fuck lawfare.
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 No.72104

>>72102
CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM

From what we know Arauz has a runoff against the neolibs to face
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 No.72472

>>72104
Update: A SIGNIFICANT amount of fraud is going on, with official data giving 32% to Arauz compare to 38% according to the parallel count made by Arauz himself.
For all purposes the left lost the elections.
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 No.72521

>>72472
how did they do it
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 No.72529

>>72521
Fraudulent count ,restricting voter affluence in poor areas, etc.
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 No.72542

>>72472
It is not as if 38% will mean he wins the election automatically anyway.
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 No.72553

I thought Perez was based like Morales. I heard he called Arauz a neoliberal and that he'd refuse to negotiate with the IMF.
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 No.72569

>>72553
I mean he doesn't want to negotiate with the IMF because he plans to fuck them.
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 No.72578

>>72569
Which is good, right? Why are you calling Perez a neolib idpol glowy when he wants to fuck the imperalists
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 No.72615

>>72578
I am not.
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 No.72620

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 No.72648

>>72620
>indigenous
>neither left no right
Interesting, indigenous people apparently have no politics.
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 No.72652

>>72648
Indigenismo is an ideology in of itself, it tends towards leftwing policy economically but contains social conservatism and a prioritisation of environmentalism.
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 No.72683

>>72652
eco-nazbol gang
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 No.72686

File: 1612801095795.png (1.02 MB, 1280x720, ClipboardImage.png)

live in about 45 minutes:
Live From Ecuador: Meet the PI Delegation
https://youtu.be/cVboxh3WMx8
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 No.72720

>>72686
LIVE in 60 seconds!
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 No.72735

>>72686
They will be answering questions, leave questions in the chat.
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 No.72784

>>72652
Based
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 No.72833

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Why were the pre-election polls so off?
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 No.72839

>>72833
Progressive International warned about that the polls shouldn't be trusted.
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 No.72848

>>72839
All of them? Cedatos is the only really fishy pollster, who coincidentally was contracted to do the election exit polls as well.
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 No.73117

>>73036
Like I said before, I saw on of the debates and he uses an empty discourse, void of substance, uses his image as an indigenous, native ecuadorian as a flag and nothing more. Dismisses socialism and/or communism. An that was just my impression after watching his intervention in the debate, I haven't even researched the guy.
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 No.73237

I tuned the spanish CNN yesterday and boi oh boi the faces of the presentator and invites from knowing the second round would be between the socdem and idpolindigenous was priceless.
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 No.73250

>>70912
An antiimperialist socdem is better than nothing
>>71491
In venezuela I believe there was some Stalin Gonzalez that supported the invasion kek.
>>72039
based
>>72687
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=vLcMeHGRfNw
Push the venecos to the frontier!
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 No.73253

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>>72620
So comparing that map to this one, it looks like Pérez did best in the indigenous regions, which makes sense if that's what his campaign is built around. I guess my question is why they support him over Arauz. I had heard that there was a divide between Correa and indigenous groups, but I always assumed that was manufactured to make Correa look bad.
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 No.73285

>>73253
From what I understand Correa's party and political campaigns were really top-down and never really made the effort to imbue themselves into indigenous trade unions and social movements like MAS and Morales did in Bolivia. Correa was too much of an "European" leftist in that sense or at least that's what the bona fide critics (as in non-glowie) from the left think of him.
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 No.73490

was the deleted post a snuff film
got deleted really fast
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 No.73970

File: 1612883838237.png (87.38 KB, 1024x669, Ecuador IRR.png)

Most likely the indigenous candidate will beat Arauz and go full on neolib again.
That said take a look at this Micheal Roberts article:
It says that the internal rate of return on capital stock (usually a proxy for the overall rate of profit) is ABYSMALLY low, around 4%:

https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2021/02/08/ecuador-reversing-the-pandemic-slump/

Either way the runoff goes we are bound to here more about this country in the future.
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 No.73985

>>70505
Why is Yaku Perez cringe? I'll need more info on their campaign platform before I judge
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 No.74070

>>73985
>Literal indigenous idpol in a State where purely indigenous people are less than 10% of the population
>Supported the banker candidate in 2017
>Broke the 2019 movement against neoliberal government which was rapidly escalating until their intervention
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 No.75616

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 No.75629

>>75616
Oh fuck this is VERY good.
10 million people voted, so 0,05% is just 5000 people. BOY is this gonna be chaos.
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 No.75648

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>>75616
>>75629
Oh this might get real spicy.
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 No.75668

>>75648
This could be beneficial for Arauz. I believe Lasso was Minister of Economy when they adopted the dollarized their economy.

The votes going for Yaku could be split, and some may go for Arauz not necessary for Lasso. Yaku in second place could be damaging for Arauz's chance I think.
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 No.75672

>>75668
Ollie Vargas says that the indigenous movement unionist (in the sense of trade unions) wing could go to Arauz while the others to Lasso.
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 No.75673

>>75668
I fear that Yaku Perez will be backed by glowies and the OAS and they will pull off a Bolivia 2.0 but this time it might work because I don't think Arauz has the support of unions and indigenous like Morales had.
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 No.75684

>>75673
Perez is out of the runoff
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 No.75693

Honestly, if Lasso gets into the runoff, this could be beneficial to Arauz as the left no longer has the split vote. If Lasso wins there is no way Arauz will lose.
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 No.75709

>>75684
I mean Perez crying "fraud" and being backed by glowies and OAS into cancelling the results. Yaku Pérez is already doing the crying part…
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 No.75734

>>75709
The Fun part is that at the moment the banker guy is ahead of Perez by just 0,03%
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 No.75743

>>75734
It's just like Trump vs Biden, the last votes were coming from coastal urban centers that were disproportionately favorable to Lasso, thus it is not really surprising that it was enough to put him ahead of Pérez. What is really surprising is the under-performance of Lasso. It's funny because I think the glowies and porkies thought Pérez might split the vote of the left enough to impede Arauz from reaching the second round but in fact I think it has done more to split the vote among the center and the right which explains Lasso poor performance.
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 No.75768

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>>75743
I think Arauz will win if Lasso gets in the second round but I don't think (unfortunately) it will be a resounding and crushing victory like the one Arce got in Bolivia. So while I think it will be a good news for Latin America, Arauz will have a more fragile political mandate than what Arce currently has. I think he should go the way of Bolivia and Venezuela and build broad political coalitions outside of institutional party politics, with unions, social movements, give more power and autonomy to localities , deglowiefy the police and army, repair and strengthen the political and economical links with other left leaning SA countries (e.g. ALBA, UNASUR), go full nationalisations and public investment to counter the atrocious Ecuadorian profitability (meaning no investment is coming from the private sector) and if he lacks the funds to do so, ask China and if that means giving them half of the ownerships of those nationalised public industries so be it (like Bolivia did with their lithium industry) etc… or else his presidency might be cut short.
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 No.75784

File: 1613011580011.mp4 (2.26 MB, 640x480, ND-oPVvJfmWU3UQR.mp4)

>Incredible admission of who Ecuador's fake "left-wing" candidate Yaku Pérez truly serves: Yaku said the US embassy called and told him he will be the other candidate in round 2 of the presidential election.
>The USA is deciding who Ecuador's candidates are
Yaku is on record as being with the National Endowment for Democracy. His wife also worked for Jeb Bush of all people.
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 No.75786

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 No.76370

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 No.76387

who won?
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 No.76390

>>76387
Nobody won but the indigenous glowie candidate which was objectively the best geared against Correismo lost against the neoliberal banker crook.
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 No.76396

>>76390
se we'll have a second round or something? when will it happen?
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 No.76398

also please redpillme on Correismo. i don't know anything about ecuador
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 No.76400

>>76398
Basic socdem but they are antiimperialism pilled.

>>76396
Second round in April
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 No.76645

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So basically Yaku Pérez just said that election fraud happened, that he in fact won by 10 points (lel) and he will take legal action with the CNE and the comptroller office. At the international level, he will ask for a reunion with Almagro and the OAS (yeah the same people responsible for the coup in Bolivia).
We will see if the glowies are ready to provoke another coup after the failure in Bolivia and Venezuela.
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 No.76651

>>76645
>Same fucking plot as usual

Don't people get tired of this shit?
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 No.76724

>>76645
election fraud is more widespread than elections themselves on a global fucking scale, how are claims of election fraud still held to any amount of legitimacy? Like, yeah mate you were cheated out of some votes. Guess who else was? Literally fucking everybody who ran in any fucking election ever. If everybody commits voter fraud, nobody really does.
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 No.76731

>>76651
it's the same plot because it's effective
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 No.76737

>>76645
Funny part is that he is doing to the detriment of the Porky candidate: Lasso. Something has gone wrong here, international bourgeoisie vs national bourgeoisie maybe?
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 No.77057

>>76737
Nah, i think its just glowie know how to play their cards to maximize votes and Lasso is too rightoid to do it.
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 No.77060

>>76737
It could just be two bourgeois puppets who both want the top spot.
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 No.77196

>>77057
This Lasso is basically Moreno 2.0 and will never be able to garner enough support to beat Arauz contrary to Pérez and his vacuous indigenous idpol that makes Westerner cream their pants and masks his neoliberal and imperialist tendencies (basically the polar opposite of Morales).
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 No.77216

>>76737
Perez is the porky candidate now, specifically that of big tech and "green" capital
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 No.78407

File: 1613176748349.png (255.09 KB, 586x480, Screenshot_20210213_013648.png)

Welp, get ready for another coup brought by your favourite glowies. I have some kind of déjà vu.
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 No.78415

>>78407
Real talk: If Correismo is for real and not a weak ass electoral cartel they must prepare to fight in the streets as MAS did in Bolivia. If they can't generate that kind of pressure it means they're not organized enough to get to power.
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 No.78417

>>78415
This will be their real test after the fucking disgrace that was Lenin Moreno, how can you get that bamboozled by a guy that was your own vice-president for six fucking years?
To be honest I don't feel too good about this one.
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 No.78428

>>78417
Neither i do, but if i have learned one thing is that Latino socdem have to learn things the HARD way before accepting them form what they are.
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 No.79283

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>>76724
I always thought it was for the benefit of Westerners, in the way that Pérez rides a bike and dresses like a fucking hippie
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 No.79301

>>78407
>>76645
Can someone explain what is happening? I saw Ben Norton's twitter thread but can someone explain the context? Is the OAS really doing a 100% recount based on Perez pitching a fit??

https://nitter.42l.fr/BenjaminNorton/status/1360597068465774597
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 No.80307

bump
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 No.80344

>>79301
Yep. And Lasso and Pérez basically already agreed in an alliance for the second round and the recount will most likely make Pérez appear second. Then it will basically be Pérez (with the backing of the OAS, the glowies, Lasso and every pro-US political party in Ecuador) versus Arauz in the second round and if Arauz doesn't win with a large margin (provided the election is not outright rigged) he will get couped Bolivia style. I'm really pessimistic for Ecuador.
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 No.80359

>>80344
South America has to learn is all the way or nothing sadly. Bolivians have partially learned it, i think Correistas are still too tame.
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 No.82998

Any progress-report on the "recount"?
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 No.83083

So what happened? Who won? I wasn't following
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 No.83089

>>83083
There are posts above yours that might contain the information you seek.
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 No.83117

File: 1613505865836.mp4 (11.9 MB, 720x720, Ecuador's Leftist Candidat….mp4)

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 No.87581

File: 1613798352049.png (261.17 KB, 1236x607, ClipboardImage.png)

lool
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 No.89209

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The glowies are at it again at full force.
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 No.89235

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>>71465
as a chilean, i suppose i can.
basically, Daniel Jadue is the now mayor of Recoleta, a member of the communist party, and an overall based person. his reforms in recoleta are widely liked by people (and have even been copied by the right winger porky socdem lavin, mayor of las condes), they include: the formation of popular drug stores, popular optical shops, the open university of recoleta, the popular library, and more.

his general public image was pretty good for a communist, but that is not much, as pinochetismo is still a massive force, but with the 19' revolts his public image could have gone up
leaving him in a really nice spot for making a good presidential campain

pic related are the polls. kast is the far right, lavin is the right wing populist, siches is a left wing populist, and the others dont really matter
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 No.89359

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>>89235
A more recent one for Chile.
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 No.91786

File: 1614116801017.png (194.53 KB, 616x431, 1554086439323.png)

>hoxhaist party on my country is supporting yaku perez
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 No.91800

>>91786
Yaku Perez Tungjatjeta!
>>89209
As an Ecuadorian, I fear the imperialists will repeat what they did to Roldós with Arauz.
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 No.91814

>>91786
Holy shit wtf? That's a controlled opposition party for sure
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 No.91832

>>91814
nah the state hates em and kills them all the time I really don't get it tho does the ecuadorian hoxhaist/commie parties support yaku perez or sumthin?
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 No.91847

>>91832
I'd kill members of a controlled opposition party I'm in control of too
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 No.91914

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>>89209
And the ones doing the stealing are getting rewarded for it by the US of course!
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 No.100379

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Lasso made it into the second round. With the Left no longer divided Arauz looks like he's headed for an easy win.
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 No.100382

>>100379
>Arauz looks like he's headed for an easy win
unless the US steps in
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 No.100403

>>100382
They don't have the same power they used to have over the continent, Bolivia proved that last year
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 No.100572

>>100403
This. Doomers will whine saying that with Biden in power imperialism will be taken more seriously, but Trump has accelerated things to a point where that isn't even possible.
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 No.100582

>>100572
everyone keeps saying that but how exactly has the USA lost its grip over latin america *after* the USSR collapsed? It dosent makes sense that you end up weaker 30 years AFTER your existential competition bailed
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 No.100586

>>100582
I think the internet and cell phones definitely helped give people more power
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 No.100589

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>>100586

ahah based bro
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 No.100590

>>100582
both the US and Soviet Union had been stagnating since the early 70s when the post war boom officially ended, the soviets started with a smaller share of the world economy so they collapsed quicker. Stuff like the Pink Tide actually did do a huge blow to the Monroe Doctrine, or at least exposed its weaknesses, remember that the US had been trying to overthrow Chavismo in Venezuela since at least 2002 and have never succeeded.
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 No.100593

>>100589
The ARI helped give people more power (to hallucinate)
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 No.100597

>>100589
>>100593
It's unthinkable the uncivilized barbarians could use a tool better than westerners.
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 No.100599

>>100597
woah dude cool it with the racism
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 No.100600

>>100590
Very true. I'm still going to think about worse case scenarios until I see them proven otherwise in that specific instance.

Every situation is different.
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 No.108331

>>70560
It's now down to Arauz and Lasso, but it was actually quite close between Lasso and Perez, so close they called for a recount
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 No.108413

>>108331
will this be an easy victory for our guy?
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 No.108753

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I guess since this is de facto /lat/ now, some bad news: the fascist is now governor of a Bolivian Dept.
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 No.108789

>>108753
It was expected anon, and i would say that 35% for Mas in their weakest region in the whole country is still a good result.
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 No.108792

>>108753
>5 different conservative parties
Literally why?
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 No.108801

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>>108792
Bolivia has highly localised politics, as you can see from some of the other elections here:
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 No.108817

>>108753
It's Santa Cruz which is literally thr most booji part of Bolivia.
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 No.108821

>>108817
Yeah but the danger is that they are gonna pull some shit like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_unrest_in_Bolivia
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 No.109151

https://twitter.com/g1/status/1368994918295887880
LULA'S CRIMINAL CHARGES ARE REMOVED, OPEN TO STAND FOR ELECTION
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 No.109160

>>109151
PINK TIDE PT2: PINKER
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 No.109165

>>109160
Please, from Bolivia to Chile to Ecuador: this is a red tide.
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 No.109169

>>109165
Pink Tide Pt2: CRIMSON RED
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 No.109197

>>109151
WE SHALL RISE AGAIN
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 No.109200

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 No.109202

>>109200
Cringe AF.
Fuck them libs i want the real deal from LatAm
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 No.109208

>>100572
Depends, getting really close to the other side of the geopolitical struggle can give good leverage against the empire and vassals.
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 No.109216

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 No.112265

Seeing that this has become de facto /LAT/ general i gotta signal to you that the Brazilian Covid disaster just got MASSIVELY WORSE. They're nearing 2000 deaths per day with 80% ICU occupancy and healthcare collapse is a realistic perspective.
How do you think this could impact the country?
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 No.112279

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>>112265
Not much. Lula's acquittal and the current season of BBB draws much more attention. We reached such a point of dispair that nobody cares anymore.
Boomers don't believe in the deaths, young people are completely burnout and penniless.
t. BR
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 No.112281

>>112279
boomers don't believe that a lot of people they know aren't around anymore?
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 No.112288

>>112279
Do boomers know that if ICU reach 100% occupancy they will die en masse?
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 No.112289

>>112288
they will not believe, they're dead
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 No.112408

>>109197
>>109160
>>109169
Oh my god it's finally happening
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 No.112449

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>>112289
>>112288
>>112281
There were cases of boomers already dying in the ICUs refusing to admit that it was COVID. When they are in their final days, they blame the doctors for not giving then Bolsonaro's magic drugs (like chloroquine).
But, I will not put all the blame in the fact that "boomer = retard", that's anti materialistic. There is a reason for old people being anti-intellectualists: education was always, until very recently, a way to dominate then. Remember that proles usually don't interact with the big bourgeoisie but with petty boojs and labor aristocracy. The "dotô" (doctor, basically to boomers any one who finished his basic studies) is always the arrogant, "rich" son of the boss, so science gets vilified with them, while religion and mystic resolutions are the old and right way.
Could a marxist mass movement helped the working class to embrace science while rejecting the academic elite? Yes, but we're are talking of Brazil, the good leftists were killed ou ran away in the 70's, even the new left it's very non scientific (astrology it's a much more commom doctrine than marxism in any brazilian leftist movement, whoever tries to correct me it's wrong and gay).
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 No.112495

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>>112265
>>112279
>>112449
As long as we're talking Brazil's covid situation, does anyone know why Brazil had such a large uptick in social cohesion relative to other countries during the pandemic?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/international/articles-reports/2020/12/04/which-societies-has-coronavirus-brought-closer-tog
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 No.112513

>>112495
All the ones that think otherwise are dead.
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 No.112601

https://twitter.com/Frntline_online/status/1369284668848234501

Meanwhile, in the Colombian hinterland…
(Also i don't know the two guys mentioned names: are they drug dealers/warlords or legit?)
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 No.112707

YAKU PEREZ CALLS FOR ELECTORAL COUP BY THE ARMY

Not even glowing, full on fascism with an indigenous face.
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 No.112709

>>112707
Would a sauce be that hard
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 No.113758

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>>112709
Yaku Perez (formerly Carlos Perez), who came in third in Ecuador's first round of elections, calls for Ecuador's military to intervene in the elections, in order to 1) Criminally indict the winner of the first round Andres Arauz, 2) Replace all members of the National Electoral Council, and 3) NULLIFY the results of the first round
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 No.113778

>>112449
the brazilian workers' party was pretty ok, even freire worked with them in the 80s? and porto allegre participatory budgeding was a sucess?
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 No.113839

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>>113758
>>112707
HOES MAD X24
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 No.120631

>>112707
And he’s the liberal candidate
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 No.140509

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LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO
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 No.140535

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