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 No.925421[View All]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Ilyin

>Ilyin has been quoted by Russian President Vladimir Putin, and is considered by some observers to be a major ideological inspiration for Putin.[10][11][12][13][14][15][16] Putin was personally involved in moving Ilyin's remains back to Russia, and in 2009 consecrated his grave.[17]


Can RusAnons please explain this? Is Vlad the Ukrainer Brainer a closet fascist, or is this just part of the rehabilitation of pre-Soviet reactionaries to legitimise the oligarchic rule of United Russia? Other Reactionaries rehabilitated by Putin:

https://engelsbergideas.com/notebook/solzhenitsyn-putin-and-the-historical-myth-making-that-drives-russian-imperialism/

https://jordanrussiacenter.org/news/tsar-nicholas-putin-continuity-or-coincidence/
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 No.936934

>>936897
and here's the funny part about Rodina, it used to be led by Rogozin (the director of Roskosmos), who was a literal neo-nazi back in the 90s

As a Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to NATO he supported the creation of a NATO transit point in Ulyanovsk back in 2012

These are the people around Putin. That's where one gets in alliance with duginoids

 No.936958

>>936937
nobody said that, cretin
you are the one defending a literal nazi here, lol

 No.936969

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>>936934
Didn't know that, interesting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russian-heartland-fears-nato-transit/2012/06/27/gJQAU7E75V_story.html

And yes you're right, Dugin himself palled around with Brzezinski. It's why communists must always stress proletarian interests, proletarian internationalism.

>>936937

"Decommunisation" can only ever mean fascism and bourgeois power, whether it's Banderites, the Russian white guard, the German nazis, Afghan jihadis or indeed, the likes of Putin.

 No.937077

>>936975
semantics, your argument is indistinguishable from the alt-right fashoids saying "we're not Nazis, the Nazi party only existed in the 1930s"

 No.937086

>>936975
Why do you conflate the USSR with Russia? Russian ethnic supremacists have existed since liberalism tried to remove the Tsar and his inbred aristocrats

 No.937108

>>937103
>if Russia weren’t the center of the world socialism movement and were Putin not making explicit his intentions to undo Yeltsin’s evil
holy jesus fuck
Back to the containment thread

 No.937182

>>937103
>>936975
>>937123
keep trying

1) reality doesn't follow your definitions

2) russian fascists and national socialist existed in the russian emigrant community

3) neo nazis in the eastern europe exist regardless of that

4) rogozin was a neo nazi sieg heiler, regardless of your smartass argument that russian can't be a nazi, lol

 No.938646

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>>936934
>2nd pic
That's not Rogozin, he was already 30 years old, looked older and balding by then. It's some other, younger nazi. Still, yes, Rogozin indeed was in the same nationalist circles as Navalny, and sperging out at the 2007 Russian March about "placating the Chechens" and migrant workers. Then he started singing a different tune in the 2010s after the united opposition to Putin got broken up.

 No.938647

>>938646 (me)
I just realized he looked like Tucker Carlson in 1995 lmao

 No.938687

>>938646
Rogozin? More like Rogaty (Russian for “horned/cuckold”)

 No.938720

File: 1650907597689.png (1.08 MB, 1024x894, ClipboardImage.png)

https://gowans.blog/2022/04/13/the-mental-illness-of-anachronist-radical-socialism/
>What many radical socialists practice today cannot be called scientific, or indeed, even coherent socialism.

 No.938953

>>925421

he looks like evil lenin

 No.939062

>>938646
yeah, indeed. definitely a fake. I didn't notice that the man in the photo looks too young. Plus he doesn't even look like Rogozin on the other photos from the demonstration

 No.939079

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>>939062
He actually addressed it on twitter, unfortunately I didn't get the screenshot when his pfp was him in his dress uniform because it was much funnier that way

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 No.939138

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 No.939469

>>938720
>Cannot argue
<Proceeds to cope

 No.939627


 No.939647

>>938953
nah he looks like an angrier Gabriele D'Annunzio

 No.939651

>>925442
Boris Yeltsin was a member of the CPSU as well, for him and a lot of later anti-communists they used party membership as just a loyalty stamp and or betrayed their beliefs when it was convienant.

Tons of people in the CPC now have very different views on how to proceed, from Maoists to lib cucks, and further a ton of people just use it for employment benefits instead of any actual beliefs in anything.

 No.939758

>>934544
first one hurts, oh well.

 No.939789

>>930091
wow such hardship, they had to wipe their tears with a few new agricultural estates

 No.939939

>>926452
The death camps for homosexuals in Russia.

 No.940211

>>939939
Like the Uyghur's organ harvesting facilities in Xinjiang?

 No.941034

>>939939
Doesn't exist. What exists is abuse by police in Chechnya, which included incidents of abduction and torture of gay people at police precincts.

 No.945155

>>925431
Who else did Putin rehabilitate?

 No.968768

>>945155
Kolchak.

 No.968773

>>939939
there can be death camps perfectly well under liberalism
fascism isn’t all that special

 No.968815

>>930249
Вали в засраиль, крыса.

 No.969250

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>>968815
>Вали в засраиль, крыса.

 No.969496

>>969250
Nice strawman, liberashka.

 No.969793

>>969496
>defends openly antisemitic statements
<NOOOOO YOU CAN'T CALL ME A NAZI

 No.970290

>>969793
All liberals suck, whether they are Russians, Jews, Germans or Nigerians. There's nothing nazi about this.

 No.970499

>>970290

This is just a banal truth.

 No.981475

>>930091
He WAS of high birth. Stalin was from a peasant family, but Lenin was literally aristocrat.

Jesus, at least read the wiki or something.

 No.982215

>>981475
It's laughable to call Lenin an aristocrat. His father didn't get the title until the young Ilyich was an adolescent, and it was a very low rank.

 No.982280

>>982215
Even before he had a title, his father already was a high ranking official and his grandafather was a doctor, meaning Lenin was not of "low birth" and definitely wasn't from a peasant family. From the birth he had access to resources and education 90% of the country couldn't even dream of. And with the aristocratic title came aristocratic privilidges, putting him in a very small sized upper strata.

Leninhat flagfag retarded as usual.

 No.982291

>>982280
He was from a family of serfs who climbed his way up. I never said he was of low birth and it hardly matters, the Russian nobility had millions of members and how many were Lenins? He used his education to work for the interest of the 90+ million proletarians and poor peasants of the empire.

 No.982318

>>982280
>From the birth he had access to resources and education 90% of the country couldn't even dream of.
And he used those resources and that education to overthrow the system and establish one where such resources were available to everybody. Almost like he hung them with the rope they sold him.

 No.982324

>>982291
>He was from a family of serfs who climbed his way up.
Only his grandafather was a serf who fled and became a мещанин (something like a burgher) in Astrakhan'. His father got a great education in Kazan' university (which is quite a tell already) and became high ranking official. On his mother side there weren't any serfs. If you think that in Russian Empire any serf or free peasant could get the title, you are dead wrong.

>I never said he was of low birth and it hardly matters

Then why the fuck were you even responding to my post you retarded schizo?

>He used his education to work for the interest of the 90+ million proletarians and poor peasants of the empire.

Lemme guess, you retard though that i was trying to criticize Lenin or something by telling that he was aristo?

 No.982327

>>982318

I guess i could direct this >>982324 post to you also, sabofag.
<Lemme guess, you retard though that i was trying to criticize Lenin or something by telling that he was aristo?

 No.982336

>>982324
>His father got a great education in Kazan' university (which is quite a tell already) and became high ranking official. On his mother side there weren't any serfs. If you think that in Russian Empire any serf or free peasant could get the title, you are dead wrong.
Obviously anyone couldn't but some could rise, most couldn't of course which makes Lenin even more impressive. Feudalism was dying in the Russian Empire and a number of serfs/peasants clawed their way up on the backs of others.

>Lemme guess, you retard though that i was trying to criticize Lenin or something by telling that he was aristo?

Yeah basically. Reeks of petiness. 99.99999% of aristocrats (did anyone consider Lenin an aristocrat at the time) wouldn't do what he did.

 No.982360

>>982336
>Yeah basically
I don't think i am gonna tell you anything new when i say that you are in top 3 flagfag retards of this board.

>Feudalism was dying in the Russian Empire and a number of serfs/peasants clawed their way up on the backs of others.

Quick check - what percent of the population of Russian Empire had aristocratic title?

 No.982363

>>982360
There were 1.8 million aristocrats.
https://spartacus-educational.com/RUSnobility.htm
Lenin killed a good few thousand of them after 1917 lol.

 No.982369

ilyin was an authentic socialist and he fought je- sorry anglo-american global financial imperialism
read lenin and stop glowing

 No.982382

>>982363
1.2 million of which were hereditary nobility (like Lenin's father), so around 1% fo the total population. Saying that belonging to top 1% is being of low birth is quite retarded. Which was the whole point of my first post before you butted in trying to defend Lenin from accusation no one has made.

You are pretty dumb even for an anglo.

 No.982386

Death to America

 No.982389

>>982382
Lenin's father was one generation removed from serfdom, stop trying to lump him in with the rest of the cretins like the Romanovs and Sternbergs.

 No.982393

>>982389
Do you even know how to read?

 No.982394

>>982393
Do you understand nuance?


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