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 No.976710[View All]

post examples of Wikipedia glowing

* glowie rhetoric/rightoid cope on the talk pages
* sus revision histories
* bizarre rightoid editors
* right wing articles with no leftist counterpart

archive: https://archive.ph/wip/mJOh6
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 No.1168382

>>1145548
>So what's the best way to find out if something on wiki is true or not
By being an editor. I know how much the information on any given page is manipulated because I'm frequently writing pages myself.

 No.1168396

>>1054716
And? Vandals exist?
Parts of this thread are completely retarded, complaining about shit the admins have no control over.

 No.1168440

>>1168361
>* outright remove the source if the error is egregious enough. then later you can remove the claim entirely due to being unsourced

It depends on the article for me but you can just delete it right away if you find it not asserted by the source that claimed to be. supporting the passage.

 No.1168489

>>1168440
oh yeah true, that is the more chad option

 No.1168774

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 No.1168809

>>1168774
>inciting controversy
is that even in the wikipedo rules? lol

 No.1181556

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Wikipedia article on Alexander Hamilton casually equating anti-capitalism with anti-semitism when discussing conspiracy theories of Hamilton being Jewish.

 No.1181560

>>1181556
It isn't equag the two, it is noting it because the passage is about russian saboteurisim and capitalism.
Another leftypol reading comprehension banger, burger schools must be worse than I thought.

 No.1203473

Stumbled onto this article about the destruction of American electrified light rail by an organized cabal from the car industry recently. It's an excellent case study on Wikipedia propaganda for the record books. About seven years ago it was a decent article that catalogued historical fact, but then what appears to be a professional whitewasher came on the scene and relentlessly cleansed the article of neutrality until everyone else got tired and gave up. One of their major sources attempting to undermine the credibility of other historians some guy who wrote two articles for an unheard of newspaper under a pseudonym. At one point a professional historian who was having their credibility smeared in the comments section joined the discussion but it was to no avail. The talk page archive is a fun read:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy/Archive_5

 No.1203634

>>1181560
It absolutely is equating the two, through a subtle implication.

Compare the following two sentences

1: He also states this claim became popular in the 1920s and 1930s when anti-semitism was on the rise.

2: He also states that this claim became popular in the 1920s and 1930s when anti-semitism and anti-capitalism were on the rise.

Why would the conspiracy theory that Alexander Hamilton was Jewish become popular when anti-capitalism was on the rise? Anti-semitism, sure. But anti-capitalism? Why are they trying to draw a causal link between anti-capitalism and conspiracy theories about Jews? Why would they lump "anti-capitalism" and "anti-semitism" into the same sentence about said conspiracy theory? Because they're obviously trying to subtly imply "the commies made up a bunch of shit about Jews, and so did the nazis, because they're the same thing." It's a covert appeal to the idea that anti-capitalism is anti-semitism. Ironically this is a form of anti-semitism because it pretends all Jews are capitalists, and therefore all anti-capitalists are anti-semites. You see this all the time.

My reading comprehension is fine. Propaganda sometimes tells you what to think through subtle implication rather than concrete and obvious statements. This allows the propagandist to plausibly deny the covert appeal.

 No.1203803

>>1203473
Thanks for sharing. It's all so tiresome.

 No.1204160

>>1203473
imagine being paid by GM to sit on WP for weeks on end doing this

 No.1206580

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Perhaps old but maybe showing of what wikipedia has always been like. Reliable source my ass, a literal CIA front.

 No.1206669

>>1203803
>Thanks for sharing. It's all so tiresome.

Nah, it's energizing knowing something about the extent of all this. It gives you a more realistic world view to know what is against us.

 No.1206799

>>1206580
National Review is listed as no consensus at RSPS you stupid uyghur

 No.1210052

I've had a few times in my life delving into Wikipedia and it's insane bureaucracy.

A lot of getting things done is just being confident enough to quote rules at people. The number one rule is, don't ask for permission, do it and if someone fucks with you, then make sure you project yourself as the person in charge.

 No.1210062

One of the funniest paragraphs in any Wikipedia article is the one in the article of the Iron Law of Oligarchy in organizations which talks about how this law is also measurably manifested within Wikipedia itself.

 No.1210391

>>976729
Why not edit them to point out they aren't neutral point of view?

 No.1210412

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>>1210052
>A lot of getting things done is just being confident enough to quote rules at people. The number one rule is, don't ask for permission, do it and if someone fucks with you, then make sure you project yourself as the person in charge.
HAve you ever had an edit 'suppressed' anon? This happened to me today and it's a new one even for me, I cannot make head or tail of it quite frankly and could use some help from someone who understands the system.

 No.1210416

>>1210391
>Why not edit them to point out they aren't neutral point of view?
Because it's easier to act indignant and cry about it on leftypol like a little bitch.
This may sound flippant but I'm being serious, when you understand this you will understand this whole thread a lot better.

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 No.1211721

>>1211604
he should stick to sports

 No.1211727

>>1210391
>>1210416
These articles are monitored very closley and edited back aggressively. You can check the talk page and revisions.

 No.1211843

>>1211604
>one comrade in a sea of liberals
godspeed lenin wikipedian

 No.1218442

In the past 7-8 months Russian wikipedia has gotten severely shit because ukrainians and their sympathizers are rewriting pages to present unflattering angles
An example is the BM-30 Smerch page that has an excerpt about cassette bombs used in Kharkov, using about 8 different sources, all Western second-hand MSM repeating the same exact rhetoric.
A similar page exists for the BM-27 Uragan only instead its about "Russian shelling a town into rubble" again citing western sources.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%87_(%D0%A0%D0%A1%D0%97%D0%9E)#%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5

 No.1229502

>>1218442
revert it and point out [[WP:POV]]

 No.1232793

>>980988
>m-muh muh m-m-muh Donbass genocide
Most of those "8000 civilians" were actually soldiers in the militia, whereas actual civilian casualties stay at around 300 in total, with a vast majority of those casualties occurring in 2014

 No.1232794

>>1232618
ВП:НТЗ

 No.1232801

>>1232793
You mean the militia of disenfranchised Russian-speakers which was raised after neo-Nazis were used as shock troops to carry out a coup sponsored by the U.S. and then sent east to put down people rejecting said coup?

 No.1232805

>>1232793
glow harder dude

 No.1232806

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>>1232793
go back to watching your slop

 No.1232815

>>1203634
he never responded. (he got btfo and abandoned his assignment)

 No.1232819

>>1210416
you wretched little bootlicking cunt. you've clearly never even tried to combat propaganda on this god awful platform where teams of glowing dorks will edit back your revisions or even archive your talk page objections. You can point out obvious biases and conflicts of interest all day and still be told "too bad, we decide what a reliable source is, and we decide all the sources we use are reliable."

 No.1232825

>>1206580
> a literal CIA front.

Yep. I recall having the same thing happen to me with the tank man article. They were citing a literal "top 30 things China doesn't want you to know!" clickbait listicle from fucking BUSINESS INSIDER as a source for historical claims about Tank Man. I pointed out this had no basis on the talk page, so they changed the source to NYT. Then I looked into their NYT source and found its claim was sourcing radio free asia. so they were using the "paper of record" to launder a state-funded CIA source. I pointed out that NYT's source was state-funded and therefore biased, but "NYT is reliable" they cried. So a "reliable" secondary source can have an "unreliable" primary source and they'll suddenly ignore the rules.

 No.1232827

>>1232825
WP actually considers RFA and RFE "reliable" though

 No.1232830

>>1210412
what the fuck? The only excuse I can make for them doing this is that the particular revision was vandalization that doxxed someone

 No.1232831

>>1232827
I guess "state funded media" is only unreliable when they say so

 No.1232889

>>1232831
There's a reason on why is "original research" banned

 No.1233251

>>1232801
Yeah, they werent civilians so technically you're wrong :)

 No.1238908

>>980618
>reactionary news media
>Grayzone
How is it reactionary exactly?

 No.1239369

>>1233251
They stopped being civilians because they were disenfranchised.

 No.1240045

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>>1240003
>evil
>regimes

 No.1249345

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The three letter agencies get up to all kinds of shit.

 No.1249351

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Bolivian_general_election#Election_postponement_and_blockades
Look at this shit, makes the protesters look like evil murderers and the government as just trying to deal with coronavirus uwu. The entire stuff around the crisis needs reediting.

 No.1249418

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>>1240045
based propaganda understander

 No.1250875

Documents show Facebook and Twitter closely collaborating w/ Dept of Homeland Security, FBI to police “disinfo.” Plans to expand censorship on topics like withdrawal from Afghanistan, origins of COVID, info that undermines trust in financial institutions.- TheIntercept

https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/

 No.1260230

>>1250875
Not enough people are talking about this. It’s absurd.

 No.1260324

>>1249345
>vid
that's more of an FBI thing. read the terror factory by trevor aaronson

 No.1260905

neat

 No.1279872

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bump. more comrades should register accounts on WP. shit has gotten worse with liberals soyfacing over Ukraine. if you point out the connection between Ukrainian fascists today with those of the past then you will be sanctioned


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