Proposal Agenda 16/08/21 - 20/08/21 Caballo ## Mod 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:13:21 No. 10087
(updated: 2021-08-21 (Sat) )
Mod voting has closed for the week. You can still continue to use this thread for discussing these proposals and your support or concerns, and for justifying future proposals. There's a few interesting ideas coming from anons, good to see.
Proposals that received two votes and will be decided by a majority vote next week: note that details of the first two will be clarified before voting due to anon concerns < >>10088 Proposal: On the creation of /roulette/ - /lounge/. < >>10089 Proposal: Remove certain types of soyspam. < >>10094 Proposal: Rename /b/ to /siberia/ to remove the 'expectations' that it needs to be exactly like 4chan /b/ and to fit more consistently with the rest of the board names. < >>10104 Proposal: Bring back vaush -> agent kochinski wordfilter Proposals that did not pass: note that both had main objections to either the timeframe or vagueness rather than the idea > >>10296 Proposal: Create actual policies on subjectively moderated topics > >>10297 Proposal: Standardize ban lengths for various rule violations —–
Hello everyone. We are trying something new, by moving proposals/votes off the mostly-private /assembly/ board (no longer exists), to /meta/ where they are easily seen by the community.
Firstly, I must clarify that
ONLY MODS CAN ACTUALLY VOTE ON PROPOSALS OR VOTES . Anons are free to have their say and offer suggestions and feedback to improve proposals/votes but these are only advisory and user votes are not counted for official decisionmaking. But who knows, a persuasive enough argument might sway the mod team to your cause?
There are no votes this week as this is the first week of the new system. Please reply to this post to post proposals for consideration next week. Once again, only mods can make official proposals, but if a user proposal seems like a good idea, we may adopt it and make it official. Thanks everyone. Feel free to post your opinions but try not to spam or needlessly bicker back and forth in order to keep the thread clear and legible.
Caballo ## Mod 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:15:03 No. 10088
>>10087 Proposal: On the creation of /lounge/. We need to discuss, however, what form this new board will actually take before approving any proposal. In short, this board is intended as a comfy off-topic space which is more moderated than /b/ to create a social atmosphere.
Caballo ## Mod 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:19:16 No. 10089
Proposal: Ban 'soyspam'. (ie. soyjak posts that do nothing but post a derivative soyjak and include no original text). This is not intended to remove posts which rephrase another post in a derisive or mocking manner (with a soyjak or not) as these are a time honoured form of criticism. Exceptions may be made at moderator's discretion for 'unique' or custom-made soyjaks.
WVobbly ## Mod 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:24:46 No. 10090
>>10087 wasn't the idea we'd do lounge as part of /roulette/?
>>10089 vote for
Caballo !!Kv6Q4bF05o 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:28:37 No. 10091
>>10090 Yeah sorry, I forgot that bit. As I said we need to discuss this more (and we have a whole week so it's cool).
One obvious question is, should porn be on /b/ or /lounge/? Or both? Or neither?
WVobbly ## Mod 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:34:11 No. 10092
>>10091 Well by the general discussion style on the porn threads I would say /lounge/ because it definitionally fits /lounge/ more than it does /b/
but that would also fit the bill for stuff like the leftyco circlejerk as well, anything with calmer discussion rather than just rampant shitposting.
Caballo 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:38:31 No. 10093
>>10092 For what it's worth, I agree with you, I think porn threads should be moved to /lounge/ (or maybe not moved if OP doesn't want to but future ones should be made there) and /b/ shouldn't be used for porn dumps.
Caballo ## Mod 2021-08-15 (Sun) 23:39:50 No. 10094
>>10087 Oh that reminds me of another proposal we need -
Proposal: Rename /b/ to /siberia/ to remove the 'expectations' that it needs to be exactly like 4chan /b/ and to fit more consistently with the rest of the board names.
I vote in favour.
Discomrade ## Mod 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:02:40 No. 10096
>>10091 >should porn be on /b/ or /lounge/? Or both? Or neither? My impression is that /lounge/ would aim to be a more 'comfy' experience than a more anarchic si/b/eria, making the second more suited to porn.
User input on this would be great.
>>10088 >>10090 >>10091 Can you add an 'Edit:' to the original proposal to reflect this, for ease of reading the thread?
Maybe also put Proposal: in caps and redtext for easy reference.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:03:24 No. 10097
>Fix "Save as original filename" >Force all mods to post with their name on /meta/ >Change default anonymous name on /meta/ to "Regular user" or something like that
Anonymous ## Developer 2021-08-16 (Mon) 00:06:37 No. 10098
>>10097 >>Fix "Save as original filename" This is an immediate priority as of now.
Hopefully it is properly fixed within 6 hours, as a solution is almost ready. Fixed! (At this point in time consider putting tech fix suggestions on the
>>>/tech/ sticky, I know that isn't announced properly yet so it's our fault, but it keeps it in one easy-to-check spot.)
>Change default anonymous name on /meta/ to "Regular user" or something like that It's a good time to check, does anyone want changes to the: default names, capcode names (Mod, Developer, Admin)
Krates ## Admin 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:03:23 No. 10100
>>10098 I think Mods, Admins, Or Devs should only identify themselves if and when it is needed (e.g. when they vote or to explain a ban they made or something) not as default. We shouldn't namefag most of the time unless there's a good reason for it, in my opinion.
>>10088 I'd prefer we discussed what we want to do with /b/ before launching a /lounge/ board.
>>10089 I agree but maybe we ought to be more precise on what soyspam actually is.
Barbara_Pitt ## Admin 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:36:01 No. 10103
>>10088 lounge idea needs to be more elaborated in the rules before we can vote on it. since it's your idea you should probably elaborate on how it's gonna be different from /b/
Barbara_Pitt ## Admin 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:36:38 No. 10104
Proposal: Bring back vaush -> agent kochinski wordfilter
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:44:09 No. 10105
>>10089 Yes ban soyjaks pls, also /lounge/ is a good idea /b/ is honestly quite disgusting for a lot of people as it stands now, we need a place to talk about non political stuff that isn't full of furry porn.
WVobbly ## Mod 2021-08-16 (Mon) 02:48:29 No. 10106
>>10104 agreeable, I vote for
Discomrade ## Mod 2021-08-16 (Mon) 03:36:23 No. 10108
>>10105 This. We've seen enough tame recent posts to warrant a SFW, non-spam off-topic board.
I'm holding out on voting until users give input regarding the idea overall and regarding if it should be SFW, but I am in favor of both.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 14:21:03 No. 10190
>ONLY MODS CAN ACTUALLY VOTE ON PROPOSALS OR VOTES I'm starting to agree with leftychan user congress poster unions
>>10089 >Proposal: Ban 'soyspam' Hey bitch I was all for you until I saw this post
I'm moving to leftychan goodbye
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 15:57:56 No. 10193
>>10190 >I'm moving good, great
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 17:10:51 No. 10198
>>10101 Heyyy barabra are u a girl?
boom boom boom
I want you in my room
Comet ## Mod 2021-08-16 (Mon) 17:36:42 No. 10199
>>10091 I think Ausfaganon has something to say about /b/, but it is best to confirm with the users in /b/ if they are okay with the porn spam.
I do think all porn should be spoilered.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 19:32:33 No. 10218
>>10199 >but it is best to confirm with the users in /b/ if they are okay with the porn spam. I just want loli and /zoo/ porn to be banned at least
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 19:41:55 No. 10220
>>10088 >>10089 Leave /b/ alone.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 19:48:16 No. 10222
>>10089 If you're going to do that then pls ban avatarfags as well
>>10220 No.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 21:06:38 No. 10229
>>10224 no, ban avatarfags
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 02:17:21 No. 10240
>>10239 I didn't vote, because fuck strawfed.com
but I would have voted for the first Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 05:02:57 No. 10242
>>10239 >No restrictions on avatarfagging I hate you leftypol
At least let us post the faggot's face to make him suicidal.
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 06:22:09 No. 10245
Ban people (soyfags) who do this
>>10234 >>10242 >>10222 >If you're going to do that then pls ban avatarfags as well They're not similar at all.
>>10199 >I do think all porn should be spoilered. I'm not sure, I liked how /b/ was when we still had to spoiler porn, but right now it's not that bad either. I
do think porn should be contained to a few threads instead of new ones being made all the time.
Also why was the femdom thread deleted? Or was it just bumped off the catalog after the transfer made messed up thread order? Also this
>>10218 maybe some specific kinds of porn should be banned, like loli/shota, there was a guy who would post zoophilia every once in a while, and another who had a bizarre posting style who would spam the board with some disgusting hentai while going on schizo misogynistic and anti-communist rants. (We haven't had incidents like those with loli yet) I think that kind of stuff should be deleted.
And yes, I think porn dumps should be a /b/ thing. How would that kind of thread fit a comfy social place for off-topic discussion like /lounge/ (if it gets made)?>If you're going to do that then pls ban avatarfags as well
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 06:34:19 No. 10246
>>10098 >Fixed! based, thanks, I forgot about the tech support thread
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 07:39:08 No. 10250
please wordfilter vaush. maybe to something like "that irrelevant liberal"
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 07:39:38 No. 10251
oh also can we bring back autism score filtering to Autism Score
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 07:39:57 No. 10252
>>10251 you mean autism score?
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 07:41:13 No. 10253
>>10252 >>10251 nice lol guess i missed this one
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 07:42:29 No. 10254
>>10245 >seething about loli again I find people like you hilarious because you're fine with disgusting troony weird porn and other ugly shit but for some reason pictures of lewd 2D loli girls disturb you so much, imaginary characters don't have real age, you know that right?
I just don't get it, must be the schizophrenic burger ideology that makes people see pedos everywhere.
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 09:34:37 No. 10258
>>10254 Lol but you're just as much of a moralist as they are, complaining about weird troony porn.
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 10:12:22 No. 10259
>>10258 I don't want that shit banned, I just ignore and hide, but people here have this very weird and fucked up fixation with loli shit and pedo hysteria.
They can't stand the existence of such drawings that don't even resemble real life kids, they must think that by banning loli they're saving the kids like that retard that went to Comet Pizza to "save the kids".
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 10:13:16 No. 10260
>>10239 >48% So if we make ranked vote, the second round would be 52-48 in favour of banning or restricting avatarfags
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 10:47:00 No. 10261
>>10100 >>10089 The definition of 'soyspam' is precise enough, except:
>Exceptions may be made at moderator's discretion for 'unique' or custom-made soyjaks. Would this warrant banning soyjaks based on "effort" (e.g. fruitjaks) or if they refer to the content of the post in any way?
Also what about soy duels in dedicated threads, at least when the party is eventually over (picrel)?
>>10260 This. It's an opinion poll, not some weird democratic decision.
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 13:06:37 No. 10263
>>10261 >Also what about soy duels in dedicated threads, at least when the party is eventually over (picrel)? this brings me back to /co/ when threads changed once they stopped bumping to the top. good times.
I assume the issue it's trying to counter is when it either derails threads or floods the catalog with the same form of thread, so I'd expect that to guide how they moderate.
Like if someone made a vaushjak or a
pennyjak :^) , it would probably be considered enough related to our site culture to be worth keeping, so long as you aren't just repeating someones comments repeatedly. At that point, it's derail spam. That's my view anyway, good to hear what mods think.
At least make the penalites only like 15 minutes for people just funposting and not raiding or targettedly harrassing Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 13:11:29 No. 10264
>>10245 >Also why was the femdom thread deleted? Or was it just bumped off the catalog after the transfer made messed up thread order? Scrapper-dev here, for some reason the oldest threads didn't transfer or transferred to the bottom and got bumped off. No idea why. As you can tell by the flags glitch, it was a very rushed effort. We had to manually restore all those classics like glasses/GLSG/femdom/TrotSuicide/Copypastas
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 16:10:22 No. 10270
>>10088 >>10089 >>10104 vote against
-we have enough boards and all the boards outside /leftypol/ are slow anyway
-there is barely any soyjak spam on here its a non-problem I feel like you're trying to ban it because people make fun of jannies with them
>>10094 vote in favor
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 18:35:50 No. 10283
>>10089 >Proposal: Ban 'soyspam'. (ie. soyjak posts that do nothing but post a derivative soyjak and include no original text). So a ban on pure soyscripting. Well worded, I support this but feel that priority should be given to the deletion of soyspam OPs in particular, since they add nothing of value and clog the catalog. Also, some flexibility on this rule could be applied when the poster being mocked is not on the left and more intervention in case of raids.
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 19:53:39 No. 10289
>>10285 please modtrip/namefag modanon, regular anons cant vote
Anonymous 2021-08-18 (Wed) 00:02:58 No. 10294
>>10270 >-there is barely any soyjak spam on here its a non-problem Having seen the catalog of .net, and foreseeing even more coming here than the new arrivals today, I think preemptively making this rule is appropriate.
Anonymous 2021-08-18 (Wed) 00:40:57 No. 10297
>>10296 >[user proposal for a] Proposal: Standardize and publish ban lengths for various things, unless there is a motivating exception. The mod log on old .org suggests it's an 'anything goes' mess, with basic derails ranging from 15 minutes to multiple days. Some starting ideas:
>low-effort /pol/ but actual attempts at arguments/gotcha's, not spam (1hr for first offence) >soyspam (20m if not a raid/spammer with no history) >repeated [x] = x2 ban length each time >evasion on seen ban : 7 days Discomrade ## Mod 2021-08-18 (Wed) 03:14:04 No. 10299
>>10296 >>10297 I wish to propose these, verbatim.
Discomrade ## Mod 2021-08-18 (Wed) 03:23:26 No. 10300
>>10094 Voting for. Proposal passes to voting stage next week.
Anonymous 2021-08-18 (Wed) 05:02:59 No. 10301
>>10297 there needs to be an enumerated list and table which comprehensively details this shit
Barbara_Pitt ## Admin 2021-08-18 (Wed) 05:04:36 No. 10302
>>10296 >>10297 vote against, needs more detail before it can be voted on
krates ## Admin 2021-08-18 (Wed) 05:27:43 No. 10303
>>10296 >>10297 Not against the idea but I would like this to be more fleshed out before it's voted on. Maybe start a thread dedicated to this to get more feedback and come up with a more detailed proposal.
m00dy Anonymous ## Mod 2021-08-18 (Wed) 05:49:19 No. 10304
>>10088 Sounds good, I like the idea of keeping it as a social board with moderation against bullying etc. We have /b/ as a more random, less moderated board. I would prefer porn out of social or always spoiler-ed
>>10089 Vote against
I find them funny and usually more creative than posting a standard wojak, gigachad, or w/e
>>10094 My personal vote is for /p/erestroika. I think that would be funny and work well. Also it would not carry the expectations of a containment gulag which I believe it absolutely should not be. However I agree that we should make it clear we are not emulating 4chan or the sites /b/ board.
Discomrade ## Mod 2021-08-18 (Wed) 12:29:56 No. 10315
The issue of /lounge/ is weird, because the siberia we have here is actually very different to the pre-split /b/ that ignited this proposal which passed at the time but simply never manifested , and I fear that if leftychan.org lose momentum and lose posters (there are already a few identityfags who have already returned to .org today) this will happen exponentially. Unless user culture counters the new culture (and we've seen a bit of potential already in the posts siberia have let sink), we might want a /lounge/ again by the time this vote ends, but at this point in time it would just be splitting a slow board which I think is more harmful to the users than unpleasantness in siberia.
Anonymous 2021-08-18 (Wed) 13:44:38 No. 10319
>>10245 >They're not similar at all. yes they are tho. they always spam, derail threads and attention whore like soyjak spam in /b/
Anonymous 2021-08-18 (Wed) 13:46:05 No. 10320
>>10254 >seething about loli again because it's cp anon
Anonymous 2021-08-18 (Wed) 14:10:33 No. 10322
>>10319 >they always spam, derail threads and attention whore Post evidence. Should be easy.
Anonymous 2021-08-18 (Wed) 14:13:02 No. 10323
>>10321 I personally don't. I like seeing the new posts all at once instead of having to view each thread, especially for slower boards.
What about an optional javascript option (see options menu at the top right) that just changes them to catalog links on-the-fly? Effectively the same result.
Comet ## Mod 2021-08-18 (Wed) 18:07:03 No. 10333
>>10088 >>10089 Yes
>>10296 Sounds like too much work. No.
Anonymous 2021-08-18 (Wed) 18:10:18 No. 10334
>>10323 >Post evidence. Should be easy. look up anyone avatarfag from /get/, 4cunt, or anywhere
lerk more
Antinous ## Mod 2021-08-18 (Wed) 19:56:26 No. 10346
>>10104 >Proposal: Bring back vaush -> agent kochinski wordfilter Yes.
>Proposal: On the creation of /roulette/ - /lounge/. eeeeeeh. I lean on the side of no. I guess it's fine if we try it out and see how it turns out.
>>10296 >Proposal: Create actual policies on subjectively moderated topics >pictures of users it's more the harassment of IRL persona beyond what is reasonable.
>haz ooff touchy subject, but on the other hand, we have worse threads on /b/ so I think it should be brought back.
> >>10297 Proposal: Standardize ban lengths for various rule violations Yeah, this is good.
Anonymous 2021-08-19 (Thu) 21:46:04 No. 10376
>>10372 >already deleting every soyjak >scroll up >sees soyjaks What are you even talking about?
Captain Soybeard 2021-08-21 (Sat) 02:27:35 No. 10488
[user proposal]: merge /hobby/ with /games/, /tech/, /music/, and allow megathreads to be made there and possibly rebrand /hobby/
Anonymous 2021-08-21 (Sat) 06:19:26 No. 10490
>>10488 >allow megathreads to be made there What's a megathread?
Devil's advocate: what's wrong with slow boards? There's the /alt/ overboard that basically does what you said.
Anonymous 2021-08-21 (Sat) 06:36:33 No. 10492
>>10488 could be an ok idea, but the problem is a ton of existing posts would have to be yeeted
Anonymous 2021-08-21 (Sat) 09:01:17 No. 10493
>>10489 >/alt/ boards are dead I only check on /tech/ regularly, though I'm sure the other boards also get a couple posts daily, which sets a nice pace IMO and leaves enough time for touching grass (or you know
READING A BOOK ).
/edu/ is moreso on the dead side, but it hosts reading groups, PDFs and other kinds of useful resources.
Anonymous 2021-08-21 (Sat) 21:25:09 No. 10504
>>10501 I don't think 'vote for' is a convincing argument. Why are you voting for? You can just check /alt/ and get almost the same result.
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