I support the change from anon to comrade.
dark red is fine by me
I approve but we need inventive names for the new themes
I propose Dark Red to be October Midnight
its called dark red because its a builtin lainchan theme which has that name.
make your own theme and you can name it
thats how it is by default unfortunately
Yes to both.>>117
Honestly remove the side bar. It's hideous and redundant.
we should have a strawpoll on removing the sidebar
there are already at least 4 reasons why the sidebar should be removed >>31072
>Proposal: Make Dark Red the default theme for now, because it feels more like home (though it still needs some tweaks)
Up to you and everyone else. I prefer Yotsuba B.
>Proposal: Make 'Comrade' the default name, will make it easier to distinguish between old and new posts.
Personally, I prefer "Anonymous Comrade" but that's just me.
I still think /anime/'s default name should've been "名無しさん", or a variant like "革命的名無しさん" (Anonymous Revolutionary) or "同志名無しさん" (Anonymous Comrade), but I guess the point is moot now that the board will probably close.
I like the sidebar because it makes me feel old, though I can see why most people don't like it.
If we remove the sidebar what do we replace it with?
I say if we remove the sidebar or make the theme apply somehow to it I'm ok with dark red l as the default theme, otherwise we might as well keep yotsuba it's so hideous to see the sidebar and the board have two different themes
yeah I know, but the default impression when you land on the website is gonna look awful with that light sidebar and dark board.
Yeah I agree - sidebar must go.
we need to stick close with /GET/
Agreed, they are already in our plans though.
those guys still exist?
I like both proposals.
7chan still does exist, vineyard and all
We should have a vote, but fuck strawpoll. It requires JS, asks for CAPTCHA, and has commercial tracking.https://poll.disroot.org/leftypols-leftsidebar
I am unsure how I feel about joining this particular webring. I have seen fascistic propaganda on various links.
A few /pol/ boards are, like anon.cafe/fascist/. I don't see that as an issue though, and quite frankly it would be nice to have some more left in the ring.
Please do yeet the sidebar. No bueno.
Damn do you guys really hate the side bar I love the side bar but I am oldfag t.t
Same brother. Love this sidebar. Wish someone would remake it to be more secure and all that. Like with JS, I would use it
I wouldn't mind it much if it was hyperlinks and not trying to be fancy fully automated gay-ass web design.
On one hand, I like this old school Yotsuba design for the nostalgia, but I prefer a dark red theme aesthetically.
Plus, I feel a website wanting to be successful and not slow+comfy+oldskool should be originally themed and not look generic.
Question: why a webring with bunker, which is openly hostile and has no other appeal than using name recognition and opening the floodgates for reactionaries, in userbase as well as the moderation?
We are likely going to reconsider that. That was back when coma was still an admin and there was still some hope for reform.
The sidebar should be kept but only on the front page
What do you mean by webring? What kind of integration?
I'm used to the popular imageboard webring shown in >>137
, which integrates well and may bring exposure to the board.
feature idea: make it like 4chins, where if you click the number of a reply on mobile it previous the response, it's only when you click the >> that it actually goes there
I think 7chan would be great. They also have good (or entertaining) methods to manage raids as well if I remember correctly?
Last time I talked with some julay people they gave a bunch of excuses about Space "spamming" them to justify not wanting bunkerchan in their ring. I hope that'll be different without his baggage but I won't get too optimistic.
You seem to have payed good attention, I'm for everything you listen in the OP.
Keep sidebar only on landing page and give perhaps a general 'recent activity' post every other month on there.
For onion server, just write a common modding policy in relation to its implementation before-hand for people that may not be readily familiar with its mechanics* (*I'll continue on this shortly).
Also don't forget to change the spelling error on "Marxis
I'm so glad this (leftypol.org) actually happened.
I personally dislike "The Webring" because I feel like it's infested with /pol/ types and blatantly shouts "We want the former 8chan audience."
It's kind of a shame since boards like /kind/, /sp/, and /librejp/ are in their network.>>152
In addition to Space_ spamming Spacechan, I recall that he was a member of the "Alt-Chan Federation" who had their Discord leaked to /cow/.https://alogs.theguntretort.com/cow/res/7486.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20191031232710/http://imageboard.us/
<* Elaboration on modding torposters:
1. When/if you enable the (v3) onion server - simultaneously blacklist torposting on the clearnet domain, this way you have a single throughput of the correctly routed tor traffic, which lessens ambiguity in modding.
Have the actual onion link somewhat hidden, it should only be uncoverable for people who pay closer attention to this community and not just any bad faith tourist / raider doing as little work as glancing the top of the landing page once.
2. We should carry over a similar, if not nearly identical, implementation of captchas here as we had on Space_'s property, as it worked w/o either JS or Google (reCaptcha).
3. An example of a practical policy for mods in handling torposters:>Level One (being an obnoxious shitposter that nobody likes): remove posts, never "ban"/"rangeban" a tor exit node. >Level Two (being a lone child sexual abuse propagandist): temporarily disable file attachments, remove posts, never "ban"/"rangeban" a tor exit node. >Level Three (raids, onion exploited for human-deployed spamming): disable onion posting momentarily until site traffic have started to stabilize to normal (clearnet site would theoretically be secure behind DDoS protection, firewall and good backup (RAID6, one offline, etc.).
>On web hosting
Host in Finland, Ireland, Uruguay, Vietnam (?) or some other non-fourteen eyes / non-NATO country for a counter against potential physical raids of hardware infrastructure in the future. If you haven't taken that into account at this time it's fine but at least consider this more closely when time approaches for renewing payment plans inevitably down the line again.
I don't think it can be treated as a single entity. It's more just a way to get exposure, rather than sharing a userbase.
Plus, I think you can just not ask shit board and also blacklist them, so you can link up with the anime sites without the /cow/s and /pol/troons.
I don't know if lainchan would be open to it at all or what the state of their moderation is. But there are a fair amount of anarchists over there and it might make sense to be in a webring with them. They're very independent though so this probably an incredible longshot to even suggest
Sidebar wouldn't bother me if I could pop it in and out and it matched the sites theming options
We would like to ask the users about what should be done with boards.
Official unofficial poll - https://www.strawpoll.me/42340954
As we are currently fewer here, we have too many boards. How should these boards be consolidated? To reiterate, most of the support has been towards keeping /tech/ and /edu/. Less so towards /anime/, and i've seen no one go to bat for /games/. With this in mind, the solution appears to be to have these boards:
* /leftypol/ - politics and anything related. Have a New Vegas or calladuty thread
* /tech/ - still the same tech, has a lot of culture so it should be axed
* /edu/ - learning not necessarily political. there are reading groups here so we're also reluctant to axe it. It can now also house more general educational threads, like the /fit/ thread from hobby
* /sib/ - siberia, successor to /b/ but hidden and less cancerous
If you're in general support of this plan please indicate so along with any extra considerations. Otherwise please propose some alternative schemes. Thanks.
Forgot to mention: Threads from abolished boards would be moved to their appropriate new locations, not lost forever. So you can keep your posts from before going.
Ah, here we go with the bad polls.
The logic of this poll means that you can not vote for cutting no boards. I used /anime/, /edu/ and /hobby so I would want them to stay (/leftypol/ I am so-so about) .>>173
So that means you couldn't cut /hobby/ if you delete /anime/ and/or /games/ as they would have no place to go, right?
>>174>So that means you couldn't cut /hobby/ if you delete /anime/ and/or /games/ as they would have no place to go, right?
they would go to /sib/eria
If they didn't fit into any of the other boards.* The fit and guns thread would have a place on /edu/cational. Mattress thread to /sib/eria.
If you want a board for anime, how about a /ent/ertainment board then? However games would now be going there as well. Trade offs
would be a rebranded /hobby/. At that point you should really keep /hobby/ and merge /anime/ and /games/ back into it (if you must).
you don't like /ent/ more than /hobby/? good rebrand imo, pairs well with /edu/
/ent/ reminds me of those talking tree creatures.
No, as the people who used /hobby/ know it. No one knows /ent/.
I use hobby as well. The obstacle to finding it again with so few boards seems minimal. I suppose it depends on aesthetic attachment to the name. >>179
Just spitball some names from the top of your head. Its a consult thread, no wrong answers. This is the time to go wild with ideas
/cult/ would be a badass board name
Consolidate /games/ and /hobby/ but try to emphasize general threads for videogame genres to keep the hobby threads from getting overrun. Not what I would like but the best compromise imho for getting things done.
I would sooner go to hell than /b/
1) Merge /hobby/ /games/ and /anime/ in 1 board
2) Merge all three into /leftypol/
On the /b/ question i have no strong opinion to express.
Tech and edu can be either merged into one separate board or left as they are.
No reason for us to have so many boards when we are so small. No reason to have anything other that leftypol. Just have a games thread, an anime thread etc on leftypol.>>186
>i've seen no one go to bat for /games/
Because I'm still not sure if there's any point yet when bunker/games/ exists. I have absolutely no interest in a shitty grab bag board though.
Also, another reminder that anonymous internet polls are trivial to manipulate. You stupid idiots. Stop using them to make decisions.
The arguments ITT are used to make decisions the polls are always just a formality
So what do we have decided? It seems to me there's a consensus on getting rid of /games/ and /anime/ at the very least.
I'm for keeping /leftypol/, /tech/ and /edu/ as main boards
keep /hobby/ and merge /anime/ and /games/ back into it
making a hidden /b/ and preserving it that way is fine in the sense of not causing any problems for the whole site, but then the board would probably die quickly so if it requires too much extra work just delete it
merge games anime into hobby
keep leftypol hobby tech and edu
I would prefer it remains /hobby/. It is also much clearer what board that is at a glance. /ent/ sounds like some lord of the rings shit.
>>190>there's a consensus on getting rid of /games/ and /anime/ at the very least
Indeed, we will think about that and come to you all with a proposal those next few days.
I personally don't want to get rid of any boards. I know it's a bit slow now but I think we will grow fast over the coming weeks. It's too early to say that all the old boards are dead.
However, I guess if we just put the threads on ice and brought them back later when activity improves it wouldn't be so bad.
The issue with having many dead boards is they are slow and don't speed up unless people see the posts there and start replying.
If they aren't consolidated, I strongly suggest a limited overboard that shows recent posts on slow boards only.
I would rather not either tbh but that doesn't really seem like an option to most people. They dont post there so they have no want to preserve it, but the people that do want to post there don't want to post in a board which might stop existing any day now.
Perhaps so. It's a shame whichever way you cut it.
I still say consolidation is better than outright deletion, and then branch them out into their own boards again as soon as they can manage it. Fostering unique board cultures is the best way to ensure the long term survival of a chan.
Isn't that kind of killing any board culture that has developed though? I agree that inactivity is an issue though… Maybe we should just lock all boards but /leftypol/ /b/ and /tech/ for now and have posts from the other boards on leftypol to drive activity.
Tbh most of the unique board culture there on bunkerchan was from /GET/ crossposting so we need to rebuild either way
I must be the only one who doesn't like their videos from how much I see them shilled.
How about just /kult/ Not a personal fan of long board names
Well yeah that's what I mean. leftypol is a good name cause it says what's on the tin. Same with most of the others.
/kult/ is pretty descriptive
PLEASE KEEP /B/ AND DON'T HIDE IT
I liked /b/, it's a nice place to shitpost in when you want to be less serious, plus I feel like it could be a place to engage with reactionaries while /leftypol/ remain a more political and more serious board.
check'd but sounds like some /x/ shit>>213
why are you convincing me to support deleting /b/
If you delete /b/, then /leftypol/ will be more shit
containment boards don't work, especially with reactionaries.
/b/ was actually a fun place and a useful containment board. I posted directly there a lot.
>>211>leftypol is a good name cause it says what's on the tin.
Only as an in-knowledge reference to /pol/, like /b/ being a reference to /b/
It's more 'politics' than 'politically incorrect'. It's not an attempt at edgy shitposting containment board like /pol/ was
An entertainment board and a knowledge board, sounds reasonable. Are there better terms for that?
/leftypol/ and /b/ (whether renamed or not) served important purposes.
I'm going to propose something which I and a couple of others said a month ago on bunker, and it's probably a divisive opinion: make the designated shitting board (like /b/) the one named /leftypol/, and have the main semi-serious discussion board have a different name.
Keep all the boards and delete /leftypol/ to drive up the traffic on the alternative boards.
is this the nazbol alternative?
So WTF has been decided?
Nothing has been decided as of yet.
/leftypol/, /tech/ and /edu/ need to stay as their own separate things. Obviously /leftypol/ because it's the heart of this site. /leftypol/, /tech/ and /edu/ actually serve purposes, while other boards are just for hanging out or off topic discussion. On top of this, I'll say it makes absolutely no sense to merge /tech/ and /edu/ when the discussion on /edu/ is mostly about theory, regardless of /tech/ also having an 'education' flavor to it. This could also harm the reading groups which sprouted on /edu/ recently. /games/ and /anime/ don't really deserve separate spaces, and merging them with /hobby/ seems like a good way to handle this. I agree that /cult/ or /kult/ would be good names for this new post-merge board, but I personally would suggest a name like /inter/ - Interests & Hobbies.
Supporting this tri-board solution, plus /b/ as an hidden board.
let me try this again
the part before is a nickname
if you have a pitbull, /killer/ is a good nick
/pit/ is a good nick
/pitbull/ however is a shitty nickname for a pitbull
that's the schematic I'm working by
>>220>I'm going to propose something which I and a couple of others said a month ago on bunker, and it's probably a divisive opinion: make the designated shitting board (like /b/) the one named /leftypol/, and have the main semi-serious discussion board have a different name.
We're not gonna do that, I'm sorry.>>229
Imageboards are not dogs.
This is the proposal we are voting on right now.
>Vote: Merge /games/ and /anime/ into /hobby/ (while keeping a backup of the current threads of each for future use) Vote ends 31st Dec 10pm UTC
It only needs "anime" as the tagline and it will be perfect.
Don't merge /anime/.
It's actually one of the better boards compared to the others, and dumping shit from fast moving boards onto it is ruining the somewhat cozy atmosphere that it has.
Additionally, anyone who tries to migrate to this site should be able to find the replacement boards without difficulty, because otherwise this place won't be able to fully draw users of those boards, who'd have to be switching between the sites for the boards.
I also wouldn't like to get rid of any board. I used /hobby/, /games/, and /anime/.
Although /anime/ also included things that are not technically anime/manga (Touhou, visual novels, game fanart), or even Japanese (Chinese anime thread, Asian animation thread), which I liked, sort of like /jp/ but for Chinese (and other Asian) 2D media too..
Maybe /aca/ (Asian cartoons)? Or even /ani/, a general animation board? /2D/ - animation and comics?
I don't mind the name /ent/, /hobby/ is a simple and boring name anyway. I also think it's a good idea to merge /games/ and /ent/ where all the TV/movie and book stuff is, but I really disagree on merging /anime/ as well. In any case, how about /media/?
I couldn't stand /b/, and didn't like how it was named /b/ (makes it easier to find and raid), although it was kind of nice for the couple of days before the first wave of /pol/ invaders, so if it could be renamed to /sib/, hidden and purged from the /pol/ infestation that would be pretty good. Otherwise maybe delete /b/ and redirect to GETchan (both for a random board or an international board in case the user is looking for one)
Also, maybe consider changing /edu/'s name, perhaps to something like /book/ so that people who are looking for PDFs automatically think about asking there. Or either /learn/ or /know/ to emphasize the other learning subjects like fitness, guns and languages (I'm guessing certain hobbies that don't involve the consumption of media, and instead require building a skill, like fencing or drawing would go here too, right?). It's just that /edu/ never seemed like a particularly attractive name to me, despite thinking it's neat.
>However, I guess if we just put the threads on ice and brought them back later when activity improves it wouldn't be so bad.
That sounds good too. In that case I absolutely wouldn't mind the merging of all entertainment boards, as long as it meant that the smaller ones would be locked and preserved until there's enough traffic and demand for them again.>>198
I like this idea.>>213>>215
It didn't seem to work on Bunkerchan, to be honest. I quit /b/ permanently a while after its creation and /leftypol/ was/is still full of them. Besides, if they're unaware of this site we don't even need a containment board until Bunkerchan dies or this site becomes more popular.
Also I know it's probably a bad idea right now, but how about a music board in the future? /mu/ or /mus/, based on the reasoning here:https://bunkerchan.xyz/gulag/res/9138.html>>220>I'm going to propose something which I and a couple of others said a month ago on bunker, and it's probably a divisive opinion: make the designated shitting board (like /b/) the one named /leftypol/, and have the main semi-serious discussion board have a different name.
If it makes you feel better anon, I read this proposal back then too and kind of agreed with it, but it's too risky.
I have been swayed by your post to change my vote to no
But it should be better themed than the generic anime. I like the /2D/ idea
Based proposal, hoping it gets approved
not speaking for GET but sending the types that infested /b/ over there is a hostile act and nothing less
As someone from /GET/ you can keep your /b/ posters, most would get instantly banned from being reactionary
Nobody liked this logic back on bunkerchan, it's rather disappointing you're trying to resurrect this stupid idea here.
I seem to remember 99chan trying out this whole /gameswithpassivemedia/ grab bag board idea. It was the deadest board on the entire website.
/hobby/ was the most successful (in both users and pph) /leftypol/ affiliated alt-board, you might not have personally like it but saying nobody did is an exaggeration and shows bias on your part.
Did /hobby/ include /games/ and /anime/ on bunkerchan? Oh, no it didn't.
Yes until those two boards were created retard.
And there was hardly a single post about games or anime on /hobby/ before that happened. Really makes you think.
There were 20+ video game related threads transferred to /games/ from /hobby/. Why are you lying?
>>246>>247>ultra newfags never saw /roulette/
Please don't talk about board history again. This isn't even important to the decision we are making now.
>>234>Also, maybe consider changing /edu/'s name, perhaps to something like /book/ so that people who are looking for PDFs automatically think about asking there. Or either /learn/ or /know/ to emphasize the other learning subjects like fitness, guns and languages
I really like those ideas, never liked the name /edu/ in the first place, not evocative enough.
There shouldn't be until tomorrow. >>239
Strange thing to bring up considering /rouette/ was never a grab bag board. But since you brought it up, I was quite literally the most prolific poster on /roulette/ when games were the subject of the month. I wanted /games/ more than anyone. Totally uninterested, however, in discussing games on a grab bag board where they have to compete with other shit.
There has been like two posts on /games/ in the whole time since we moved, and I made one. I don't like the idea either but they are unsustainable right now.
So will the boards be deleted or will they be locked and hidden? I would like the latter answer to be, in case /hobby/ becomes tight in the future.
The latter see >>231
Ah yes, great fucking idea, take the board content where a lot of actual discussion and moderation exist(ed) allowing for complex discussion and takes and shove it into the HIDDEN BOARD FOR LITERAL SHITPOSTING.
God I fucking hate you "muh board consolidation" fags. Stop trying to be closet jannies for something this stupid when a seperate board like /anime/ and /hobby/ does NOTHING to negatively impact /leftypol/ and allows for irrelevant media content to be discussed on other boards without clogging up /leftypol/. /b/ is literally just shitposting, emphasis on SHIT.
>>248>20+ video game related threads
And ALL of them were at the bottom of catalog you fucktard. I personally requested mods move them because they were dying. There are 3x the number of threads on /games/ as there were on /hobby/ and they were much more active before the split. /games/ and /anime/ were literally a minority of /hobby/ content and were dead AF there. Stop making "all for one" boards you faggots, /hobby/ is already stuffed as it is, combining many, MANY boards already.
as a side note, can the mods return the highly convenient image-saving system, where clicking on the file-name let you save it without copy-pasting the damn thing?
There is no fucking consensus, because the poll is set up in a abysmal way. that doesn't provide a "no boards should be deleted" option or an actual presentation to the mods as to why X and Y should stay or go. This is the inherent flaw of the voting system, especially when it's an unofficial strawpoll that most users don't even see, especially /anime/ users>>192>merge
What is it with people's obsession to merge everything?!
Specifically rule 7 which points out why /anime/, /leftypol/ /games/ /hobby/ and /edu/ should remain separate, and not a hot melting pot that never works. they're separate boards, not separate sites.
oh it's pet-hating anon again
Why put them on ice? What would be the point when if they're slow, they're slow and pick up naturally?
/hobby/ and /anime/ had finally gotten a steady number of posters 20-30 each and /games/ picked up because of Cyberpunk 2077 coming out and having a massive set of discussion there. Just let it be and handle the fucking tech side of this site. We still can't refresh pages, we still can't download images properly, orange text doesn't work, spoilers are erratic, and a ton of threads outdated because the split was completely sudden and all the boards on Bunkerchan have had continued posts for a week.
(cont.) so is it really necessary to beat this dead horse again? Why are we merging and removing boards that are used and are popular? Just because /leftypol/ is bigger? That's a shitty argument, which means that 4chan should just delete 90% of its boards because /pol/ /a/ and /b/ are the biggest. Absolutely meaningless
It doesn't look like the vote will pass at this time.
Its too bad we aren't a right wing board, we could call it /consoom/
and by that I am guessing you mean /hobby/ will stay and /games/ and /anime/ won't (cause that's how it looks like at the moment).
>>267>hurr if you exist in a society and take part in culture or analyze it you're "consoomer"
You fags really don't know what the consumerism mm means do you?
the only vote on the floor is for merging /games/ and /anime/ into /hobby/
6 yay 3 nay
Great news if passed! I think reducing board dispersion could be critical to revive each of the remaining boards.
I agree, at least in the short term.
I disagree. Past experience with /hobby/ demonstrates that excessive inclusion leads to /anime/ and /games/ threads pushed to the bottom because of lack of activity. Those boards were made for a reason.
I'm still going for my original take, merge /games/ and /anime/ and call it /dork/.
/tech/ should just be merged with /edu/ since the only good part of /tech/ is just someone helping you with computer issues.
Also an the news threads be just have a board just for news? I know it sounds stupid but if we can get the rss feed system going, it would be a very useful source of news.
For the news part i'd find a way to put news anon threads in the [news] section of leftypol homepage
Just make news anon part of the team. He deserves it after all these years
>>274>/games/ and /anime/
2 wholly different topics that barely crossover on the topic of VNs shouldn't be merged. FFS, what is with people's obsession with merging? Half of you fags don't even use those boards, so why are you deciding arbitrarily for others?
It's only been barely over a week from this site's setting up. Why such a hurry to remove those couple of boards?
Sometimes you have to make something available first before others start making use of it, as with public transportation and women in computer science. Why not the same for >>>/anime/
It would also be better to have this on the site discussion board, or linked on the relevant boards where it can be accessible, because not everyone received the message about the possibly pending deletion until later.
>>110>The potential ideas right now are 7chan (which Comatoast moderates on) and 420chan. Both of these have relatively left wing communities
I didn't know 7chan has a left wing community.
When I click on the link in this post (>>274) it tries to redirect me to https://leftypol.org/meta/res/172.html#274
instead of the correct https://leftypol.org/meta/res/110.html#274
I assume this is because both posts belonged to the same thread which was merged to this one.
no wonder there's so many lolifags
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