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 No.11573

Hello everyone. This is the thread to make this week's proposals. To see last week's successful proposals, please go to the voting topic for this week. We have these proposals which failed previously, that perhaps we should discuss again this week (I won't put these on the docket, unless someone actually brings them up with amendments so they might pass this time):

Proposal: Equip each board with a sticky detailing its purpose and rules. This should ideally include any and all of the various and more or less obscure bylaws, such as covid denialism being allowed in the covid-19 general but nowhere else.
Proposal: Create actual policies on subjectively moderated topics (this proposal has now not been accepted for 2 weeks and is STALE, it will be removed next week)
Proposal: Standardize ban lengths for various rule violations (this proposal has now not been accepted for 2 weeks and is STALE, it will be removed next week)
Proposal: Harsher measures against both bait making and bait taking (this proposal has now not been accepted for 2 weeks and is STALE, it will be removed next week)
Proposal: Include a list of the word filters in the FAQ or rules page, just somewhere accessible so people know the current word filters in place (this proposal has now not been accepted for 2 weeks and is STALE, it will be removed next week)

Once again, I must clarify that ONLY MODS CAN ACTUALLY VOTE ON PROPOSALS OR VOTES. Anons are free to have their say and offer suggestions and feedback to improve proposals/votes but these are only advisory and user votes are not counted for official decisionmaking. But who knows, a persuasive enough argument might sway the mod team to your cause?

Please reply to this post to post proposals for consideration next week. If a user proposal seems like a good idea, we may adopt it and make it official. Thanks everyone. Feel free to post your opinions but try not to spam or needlessly bicker back and forth in order to keep the thread clear and legible. Any off-topic posts may be removed without warning.

 No.11579

Why can only mods vote?

 No.11582

>>11579
ID

 No.11599

>>11582
???

 No.11611

Proposal: Wordfilter troon, tr00n and other variations to "Troon, Ayrshire"
it's a relatively non-destructive filter which would nevertheless make trite idpol-brained posts slightly amusing.
i regret not having something more substantive to put forward in addition to this, but not enough to wait and make two proposals.

 No.11615

Proposal: Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl"

 No.11616

>Proposal: Equip each board with a sticky detailing its purpose and rules. This should ideally include any and all of the various and more or less obscure bylaws, such as covid denialism being allowed in the covid-19 general but nowhere else.

second proposal, but i'd rather just enhance the FAQ for this instead of wasting catalog space

>Proposal: Create actual policies on subjectively moderated topics (this proposal has now not been accepted for 2 weeks and is STALE, it will be removed next week)

needs more clarification. I think its too vague to vote on, instead of saying "create policies" an actual detailed policy should be named. Let this proposal die imo

>Proposal: Standardize ban lengths for various rule violations (this proposal has now not been accepted for 2 weeks and is STALE, it will be removed next week)

for

>Proposal: Harsher measures against both bait making and bait taking (this proposal has now not been accepted for 2 weeks and is STALE, it will be removed next week)

again, too vague. Needs to detail an exact policy to be voted on. This is just voting to vote some more. against

>Proposal: Include a list of the word filters in the FAQ or rules page, just somewhere accessible so people know the current word filters in place (this proposal has now not been accepted for 2 weeks and is STALE, it will be removed next week)

for the proposal but will vote against the actual vote

 No.11630

>>11573
Proposal: Consider all leftychan raid posts, threads or derails either /meta/ (if actually containing good-faith discussion and not just trolling) or deletable.
If it is a non-trolling derail within the thread, the mod should capcode announce that the offending conversation has been moved to a relevant /meta/ thread, so as to cleanly remove the derail.

Personally I am not voting for it as I think it's funny to watch them and is not getting in the way of actual content, but users have mentioned discontent so I am proposing it.

 No.11631

>>11579
1) Anonymous voting is extremely easy to manipulate.
2) Off-site discussion should be avoided where necessary, so off-site voting in a chat room is not considered acceptable.
3) Mods tend to have more visibility over some issues, including falseflagging and samefagging, as well as some rumors and misconceptions.

To be honest, polling for simple changes like wordfilters would be great, but looking at these threads you can see how low user engagement is. It just feels like it's more effort than it's worth to fix all the issues with direct democracy (like anti-fraud) and we're already overworked at the moment with real life and raids and all that. We're keeping it simple, at least for the near future to keep this place stable.

But please please please do give your thoughts (not just 'yay/nay' but why) because we do read them and we have changed our votes based on user feedback in these threads.

 No.11632

>>11630
second this proposal

 No.11735

>>11615
Yes to this proposal
>>11630
Yes to this proposal

 No.11736

Proposal: permaban Sage

 No.11737

>>11611
>>11615
keep the transhuman filter, its the one that causes the least idpol screeching.

 No.11739

>>11737
this would be the least change option, but it would obfuscate which of the terms the person was using.
to be clear: I don't propose changing that filter, but filtering different words. changing "transhumanist" to "Troon, Ayrshire" wouldn't make sense.
i'm not personally opposed to >>11615 but I'd make the case for my version on the grounds of neutrality: when you filter a term from negative to positive, it's easy for the person who made the filtered post to assume that it's been done because the site's userbase is just sensitive and offended by that term, reinforcing a view that they're basically correct to use it and that the site is oversensitive. when you filter it in a more neutral way i think it helps to convey that the problem isn't that this term or that term is particularly offensive, but that it's tedious and unoriginal, or obviously marks one as an outsider posting bait.
in this particular case I like the elegance that would come with a filter that leaves the originally intended term intact (so obviously users aren't hurt by the word!) while still showing contempt for how the poster has let slip their lazy, cliched, idpol-brained thinking by making a joke of it. ideally i'd like a filter that makes people who make such posts to go "wait, what?" rather than "haha triggered!!" - it's subjectively funnier and potentially more productive if it leads to them making better posts in future.

but i'm cautious of the risk that this becomes a bikeshedding situation where we wind up getting a lot of discussion over something quite trivial.

 No.11740

>>11630
👍
>>11615
Against this proposal for the reasons eloquently laid out by >>11739 and I'd, in fact, rather back up socdem anon proposal here : >>11611

 No.11741

>>11740
Why not just wordfilter it to transhumanist also?

 No.11749

>>11747
>>11748
you're wrong for thinking it constitutes banter. it's a thought-terminating cliche for /v/ users. to be banter it would have to be slightly original or slightly funny. despite what years of 4chan use have taught you, mere repetition doesn't constitute humour. you're not going to take on the ruling class when your microwave thinks harder about what it says than you do.

 No.11750

>>11747
>>11748
>I am going to whip the left into shape to overthrow capitalism by posting slurs on an anonymous imageboard.

 No.11751

proposal: filter "socially conservative" to "actually reactionary"
>>11615
>>11611
vote for both, I just like to see reactionaries seethe. may whichever is funnier win!
>>11630
vote for

 No.11780

>>11751
"socially conservative" to "socially inept"

 No.11781

>>11780
Okay now this is actually funny

 No.11786

>>11780
lol

 No.11794

>>11780
this one is also good, vote for this as well

 No.11828

>>11630
for
>>11611
>>11615
for both

 No.11866

ban gore

 No.11874

>>11866
Sure, let's. With the requisite exceptions for topical or relevant gore.
Also I want to note that 99% of gore is already banned since it gets posted in the form of spam.

 No.11892

>>11874
The precedence from way back when on 8ch was that most gore was NSFW iirc

 No.11934

>>11866
For, and I agree with Pasq's exception for topical or relevent gore but it should be spoilered I think.

 No.11943

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>>11866
This is already in the rules but sure, we can vote for it again to emphasise the point.

>>11611
Why not, I vote for.

>>11630
Not sure how I feel about it but it's worth discussing, let's put it up for a vote anyways.

 No.11947

>>11611
not sure what the reference is but vote yes

>>11615
lmao vote yes

>>11630
vote yes

>>11736
lol. no

>>11737
the transhumanism one works fine but personally I think >cute girl would generate a lot of autistic screeching from obsessives not used to the word filter so could be funny

>>11751
vote yes or
>>11780

Also I propose filtering:
<stupid pol
to
<stupid polyps

>>11874
I vote yes to pasq's amendment here

 No.11949

>>11947

 No.11967

When are you deleting nazi threads?

 No.11968

>>11967
1) wrong thread
2) i dont see any and you didn't link any

 No.11984

When will this board accept .webp ? More and more images on the web are in .webp and its annoying, that I can't post them here.

 No.11986

>>11984
.webp was intentionally omitted as an accepted file format as it's considered inconvenient for users at this point in time (still doesn't thumbnail by default in most file managers, doesn't open in many common offline image viewers or editors).
This will hopefully change in the future, and we're happy to put this up for discussion.

 No.12172

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>>11573
Proposal: Wordfilter troon, tr00n and other variations to "Troon, Ayrshire"

For: Krates, Wvobbly, Pask, Caballo, M00dy

PROPOSAL PASSED

VERSUS!

Proposal: Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl"

For: Barbara_Pitt, Redlidmilk, Wvobbly, Pask, M00dy

PROPOSAL PASSED

Proposal: Consider all leftychan raid posts, threads or derails either /meta/ (if actually containing good-faith discussion and not just trolling) or deletable.
If it is a non-trolling derail within the thread, the mod should capcode announce that the offending conversation has been moved to a relevant /meta/ thread, so as to cleanly remove the derail.

For: Barbara_Pitt, Redlidmilk, Krates, Wvobbly, Pask, Caballo, M00dy

PROPOSAL PASSED

Proposal: Explicitly ban gore, with the exceptions of topical or relevant gore (eg war footage) which should be spoilered and clearly described.

For: Pask, Redlidmilk, Caballo

PROPOSAL PASSED


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