Anonymous ## Mod 2021-09-13 (Mon) 16:45:48 No. 12176
>>12175 Vote: Wordfilter troon, tr00n and other variations to "Troon, Ayrshire"
VERSUS!
Proposal: Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl"
Please vote for both proposals if you accept both, or only one, if you are only in support of one. If you are voting against, please vote against both, unless you only oppose one vote. The proposal with the most 'for' votes will be accepted (unless neither pass).
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-09-13 (Mon) 16:47:11 No. 12177
>>12175 Vote: Consider all leftychan raid posts, threads or derails either /meta/ (if actually containing good-faith discussion and not just trolling) or deletable.
If it is a non-trolling derail within the thread, the mod should capcode announce that the offending conversation has been moved to a relevant /meta/ thread, so as to cleanly remove the derail.
WVobbly ## Mod 2021-09-13 (Mon) 16:53:47 No. 12180
>>12176 vote for "cute girl", will probably make them angrier
>>12177 vote for
>>12178 vote for
Caballo ## Mod 2021-09-13 (Mon) 16:56:00 No. 12181
>>12176 Vote for both, but I prefer Troon, Ayrshire if it comes down to it. 'cute girl' is potentially funny but seems a bit too chasery. Besides what about transmen hmm?
>>12177 I find their nonsense sort of funny, so I dunno really. I guess I abstain for now.
>>12178 For.
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 16:57:48 No. 12182
filter troon to
redlidmilk ## Mod 2021-09-13 (Mon) 16:59:26 No. 12183
>>12176 I support both, don't mind either but prefer "cute girl"
>>12177 For
>>12178 For
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 17:00:13 No. 12184
>>12182 You'll have to make that a proposal, this is the voting topic. Funny tho.
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 17:24:49 No. 12189
>>12176 I vote for “cute girl”,
darealestgaymoderator 2021-09-13 (Mon) 17:26:58 No. 12190
I vote for "catboy"
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 17:28:53 No. 12191
>>12178 I love how you guys let a fucking fbi.gov drama whore influence your decisions these days, kek.
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 17:29:58 No. 12192
>>12177 How do you define "good faith?"
krates ## Mod 2021-09-13 (Mon) 18:17:43 No. 12195
>>12176 >Vote: Wordfilter troon, tr00n and other variations to "Troon, Ayrshire" Vote for "Troon, Ayrshire"
>Proposal: Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl" Abstain
>>12177 Vote for.
>>12178 Vote for.
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 18:31:32 No. 12197
>>12191 This website doesn't have a Díscord server schizo
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 18:38:46 No. 12198
>>12197 Yes it does,
the matrix Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 20:59:52 No. 12206
>>12198 Gore was already banned tho, read the manifesto.
m00dy ## Mod 2021-09-13 (Mon) 23:58:29 No. 12216
>>12176 Vote yes for cute girl.
Transbros r real but pol seemingly has no idea they exist.
>>12177 I think we should just keep on ignoring them. They are basically a crazy ex at this point. Don't capcode or grant them attention.
>>12178 Vote yes assuming the gist of this is that apolitical and severe gore is banned and topical/relevant and political e.g. agitprop or combat/protest related gore is allowed with a spoiler and clear indication that it includes gore (so basically the status quo minus rekt threads) of course media showing more minor bodily harm or death should be allowed. Just not gratuitous and senseless displays of gore and human suffering.
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Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 23:59:34 No. 12217
>>12206 ignore him, he's just an obsessed leftychan dramafag making shit up
Discomrade ## Mod 2021-09-14 (Tue) 03:30:09 No. 12221
>>12176 Voting against more wordfilters. Anyone saying 'troon' looks pathetic enough already.
>>12177 Voting for . There's a public, intentional effort by a group of users to cause drama. Anons have expressed annoyance with threads being derailed to bring up old split drama. There is no reason for it to be discussed outside /meta/.
>>12178 Currently against. Gore is considered shock material like scat and fetish porn. I see no issue with it if it's signposted and spoilered (just like hardcore porn threads) but similarly to incel threads, I also see how it encourages an edgy atmosphere that is more welcome on other imageboards.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 03:53:37 No. 12223
>>12176 >cutegirl cringe and gay as fuck. I'd say no to both but if I had to choose, at least the Ayrshire one is actually funny and creative, and not reeking of nauseatingly liberal/weeb terminology.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 03:59:14 No. 12224
>pic <Ur valid <traps = trans (ignoring that Felix specifically crossdresses as an offset to his Mistress' Tomboyish social image and personal behavior, not because they identify as a girl). <using the nasty goblin Shapiro for this >inb4 "muh /pol/"
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 04:01:22 No. 12225
>>12224 Please keep off-topic out of /meta/.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 04:06:45 No. 12227
>>12225 Fair enough, just responding to the /GET/-tier meme.
>>12224 This is supposed to be replying to
>>12176 and I forgot to link it.
m00dy !!Kv6Q4bF05o 2021-09-14 (Tue) 10:41:38 No. 12298
>>12177 >Consider all leftychan raid posts, threads or derails either /meta/ (if actually containing good-faith discussion and not just trolling) or deletable I agree with this part. I would vote yes with the caveat that I mentioned earlier, that we should continue to ignore them and avoid giving them any more attention by making public announcements.
>>12224 >>12227 >>12277 Actually according to the author the light novels are canon and in one of the latest releases "Felix" expresses her gender dysphoria and female identity and adopts the name Ferris. So canonically she is trans Barbara_Pitt ## Mod 2021-09-14 (Tue) 15:46:56 No. 12405
>>12176 >Proposal: Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl" yes to this one
>>12177 >Vote: Consider all leftychan raid posts, threads or derails either /meta/ (if actually containing good-faith discussion and not just trolling) or deletable. >If it is a non-trolling derail within the thread, the mod should capcode announce that the offending conversation has been moved to a relevant /meta/ thread, so as to cleanly remove the derail. yes to this
>>12178 >Vote: Explicitly ban gore, with the exceptions of topical or relevant gore (eg war footage) which should be spoilered and clearly described. qualified yes. gore needs to be defined. We need a clear definition of what counts as gore.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 15:54:31 No. 12408
>>12298 >Felix" expresses her gender dysphoria and female identity and adopts the name Ferris Actually that isn't true at all. This is misinterpretation by social media shills, the problem I really have in this "muh anime trans girl" bullshit. Video related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL_n5BIv7ac&ab_channel=Jakez123 Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 15:59:53 No. 12411
>>12408 this
>>12298 no fuk u give tran man fillter with based man or mum gay
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-09-15 (Wed) 02:04:05 No. 12578
There have been 5 votes for banning gore, but no rationale apart from (to summarize) it doesn't contribute to the site, which applies to most of /siberia/.gore itself (as a legitimate interest topic, suitably spoilered and declared) is any less acceptable than BBC, furry porn, or other 'deviant' and frequently revolting interests. Just don't click the spoilers and hide the thread.
Anonymous 2021-09-15 (Wed) 04:28:06 No. 12584
>>12578 Gore is already banned though. This vote doesn't really change anything but we might as well confirm it.
Anonymous 2021-09-15 (Wed) 05:12:25 No. 12585
>>12584 Why should we confirm it? Why is it banned if it's not posted recklessly or in bad faith?
Anonymous 2021-09-15 (Wed) 05:19:47 No. 12586
>>12578 Incase you haven't noticed the jannies here are the drama whores with Avatar fags to boot, mod.
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-09-15 (Wed) 09:02:02 No. 12593
>>12578 the fundamental issue as to why these votes have gotten more prominence recently when in the past we did it more informally as anti-raider tactics as you talk of is largely because of the big conversation we had a week or two ago about the ruleset and how it could be vague and unclear on what was situationaly banned and what wasn't. we largely aren't voting on a perma-ban on gore within the ruleset, hell, we are already effectively banning gore a la what you suggest now (targeted against the /i/ raiders mostly), but the codification of it as outright banned within the ruleset would deter most people from posting it and inadvertently getting banned, while like the idpol rule we could situationaly allow (and very explicitly and strictly moderate) the conversation so it can be "productive", however much productive gore threads can ever be.
tl;dr its a half-measure with a load of legalese innuendo meant to make it clear that we have a strict mandate to ban gore threads as needed, but as per most of our rules, there is enough flexibility to allow threads as we deem fit. unless we make a good solution to having a short list of de-facto banned things, this sort of de-jure system is the best way to not get innocent randoms caught in the crossfire of banning raiders.
theoretically anyways, I don't think we ever had a gore thread in siberia prior, so I kinda imagine this is all just a giant spam effort by outside actors, but I digress. pasq ## Mod 2021-09-17 (Fri) 15:44:42 No. 12810
>>12176 "Troon, Ayshire" is my winner.
>>12177 yes
>>12578 The fact there is no history of gore on our site before recently suggests to me a blanket ban wouldn't for the moment make a difference. I do agree on the general idea of a /b/ style board.
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 15:54:24 No. 12813
At the rate wordfilters are being, the average thread is going to look like the end results of a Mad Libs game with the original topic of discussion completed obfuscated. Grow a spine, not every phrase or concept mods dislike deserves a wordfilter.
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 15:56:16 No. 12814
>>12813 >everyone proposing wordfilters is a mod kys schizoid
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 15:58:19 No. 12815
>>12814 Take a chill pill.
>>12813 I am not gonna make a list but they are exclusively swear words (anti-spam) and one other.
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 17:16:23 No. 12834
>>12810 >"Troon, Ayshire" is my winner. Based
>>12814 True, but they do make a point, too many filters really do make conversations sound like Mad Libs game.
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 17:37:51 No. 12838
>>12834 >Troon, Ayshire has something to do with cows or live stock ?
Isn't that a bit too incendiary ?
Can't you use a random noun from the dictionary for the word filter, at least that will cause occasionally hilarious results. Or instead of a dictionary take a list of all the nouns from a novel that is known for having spicy language for a bit of extra fun.
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 17:52:46 No. 12841
troon = cute girl
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 19:44:41 No. 12846
>>12838 If that's incendiary you're really on the wrong site. It's a joke filter, not a censor.
>nouns Like? Cutegirl and other shit is both cringe as fuck and just screams cope from the site; that /leftypol/ is so insecure that it can't handle generic chan lingo. Ayrshire lets us thumb our noses at /pol/ and shows that we have a sense of humor.
>hilarious results won't work.
>>12841 >trooning out No one says that
>"muh cute girl" Dead liberal weeb meme, pls stop
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 19:59:17 No. 12848
>>12846 >Cutegirl and other shit is both cringe as fuck and just screams cope from the site; that /leftypol/ is so insecure that it can't handle generic chan lingo. Ayrshire lets us thumb our noses at /pol/ and shows that we have a sense of humor. Ayrshire is reddit tier so I'm not sure what you're talking about here
>a hur hur hur did you mean the thing that is spelled the same? This is 99% of reddit humor
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 20:06:21 No. 12849
>>12848 >Ayrshire is reddit tier 1) You must lurk on reddit a lot to know that
2) searching up Ayrshire doesn't bring up a reddit page until page 3 of my browser and not in relation to any memes, so I don't know the drugs you took but…
The word you're looking for is homophone, and no, neither is that "99%" of reddit humor (source: your redditor ass) nor is it bad humor. You really don't understand the meaning of "reddit" on chans, do you? It's statistically impossible for there to be 100% exclusivity of memes on either site, it's the reason they're MEMES dumbass. Reddit shit is stuff like liberal takes on politics or the need to censor slurs obsessively to the point of obscenity. Reddit does not have a Troon filter or almost any filters at all, it just has bots ban people for saying "de evul vurd".
TL;DR: screaming "reddit" is not an argument
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 22:56:40 No. 12851
>>12849 >TL;DR: screaming "reddit" is not an argument i see you haven't met
sage Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 23:31:05 No. 12852
>>12851 No I've 'met' them, but the mentally ill are an outlier.
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 03:00:09 No. 12871
>>12176 I don't think "troon" should be filtered tbh. That word isn't used enough to warrant it.
>>12191 While the leaked screencaps were cringe, many people on here share that poster's sentiment that posting random gore for the sake of shocking people is psycho shit. I bet the mods received gore reports from several people, plus gore is spammed during raids all the time so people are obviously going to be fed up with that shit and report it a lot. You faggots caused this.
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 10:49:03 No. 12907
>>12871 >You faggots caused this. paradox intervention is a funny thing.
Anonymous 2021-09-19 (Sun) 13:40:48 No. 12976
>>12176 It's better to filter it to tibetan or dalai or dalai lama
Anonymous 2021-09-19 (Sun) 13:58:17 No. 12977
reposting SocDem's case for "Troon, Ayrshire" over "cute girl":
>when you filter a term from negative to positive, it's easy for the person who made the filtered post to assume that it's been done because the site's userbase is just sensitive and offended by that term, reinforcing a view that they're basically correct to use it and that the site is oversensitive. when you filter it in a more neutral way i think it helps to convey that the problem isn't that this term or that term is particularly offensive, but that it's tedious and unoriginal, or obviously marks one as an outsider posting bait. >in this particular case I like the elegance that would come with a filter that leaves the originally intended term intact (so obviously users aren't hurt by the word!) while still showing contempt for how the poster has let slip their lazy, cliched, idpol-brained thinking by making a joke of it. ideally i'd like a filter that makes people who make such posts to go "wait, what?" rather than "haha triggered!!" - it's subjectively funnier and potentially more productive if it leads to them making better posts in future. >>12838 >has something to do with cows or live stock ? where did you get that from? Troon, Ayrshire is a harbor and seaside tourist town, not an agricultural one.
Anonymous 2021-09-20 (Mon) 05:16:40 No. 12998
>>12977 >where did you get that from? Troon, Ayrshire is a harbor and seaside tourist town, not an agricultural one. Maybe cuz Ayrshire is a breed of cattle (I looked that up and got that result as well)
Anonymous 2021-09-20 (Mon) 07:56:33 No. 12999
>>12977 "Troon, Ayrshire" is a retarded filter for "tr00n*. It's not even a filter, because the word is still there. It's at the level of "I wanna murder them … in minecraft." You still got your original point across, just added a modifier. Troon should be filtered to something like "cutie".
Anonymous 2021-09-20 (Mon) 14:36:01 No. 13004
>>12999 >N-no I want my generic shit cutegirl filter!!!! this is so tiresome.
Anonymous 2021-09-20 (Mon) 14:58:11 No. 13006
>>12999 that's true of every filter, practically everyone knows all of them right away. the only people who
don't know tend to be the OPs of posts that trip the filter, and they're just about to learn because they know that's not what they wrote.
Anonymous 2021-09-20 (Mon) 15:27:24 No. 13009
>>12999 I'm going to summarize 3 points about why it should be troon, Ayrshire and not "muh cutie"
1 - removing "troon" demonstrates that we're sensitive enough for it to get under our skin. Reinforcing the view that they're right to use it and that /leftypol/ is oversensitive. Using the word but messing with the meaning turns the joke around on /pol/
2 - After 1 time the filter is going to be known by posters and they'll get around it fast, till including the word minimizes the motivation to do so in the future
3 - it's creative and less boring because, to be frank, Ayrshire is not a place I knew much about before this filter proposition
4 - Troon is so underused on his site that a filter is pretty much unneeded, if you're gonna have one, then completely removing the word validates its impact on you to /pol/ - if a stupid internet buzzphrase triggers you this much you need to re-evaluate your priorities and sensitivities, because there is A LOT more important things to be offended by or outraged over than a casual slur on an imageboard.
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-09-20 (Mon) 23:15:01 No. 13020
>>12175 (OP) (You)
>>12176 Vote: Wordfilter troon, tr00n and other variations to "Troon, Ayrshire"
For: Caballo, Redlidmilk, Krates, Pask
Against: Discomrade, Comet
VOTE FAILS
VERSUS!
Vote: Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl"
For: Wvobbly, Caballo, Redlidmilk, m00dy, Barbara_Pitt
Abstain: Krates
Against: Discomrade, Comet
VOTE PASSED
>>12177 Vote: Consider all leftychan raid posts, threads or derails either /meta/ (if actually containing good-faith discussion and not just trolling) or deletable.
If it is a non-trolling derail within the thread, the mod should capcode announce that the offending conversation has been moved to a relevant /meta/ thread, so as to cleanly remove the derail.
For: Wvobbly, Redlidmilk, Krates, Discomrade, m00dy, Barbara_Pitt, Pask, Comet
Abstain: Caballo
VOTE PASSED
>>12178 Vote: Explicitly ban gore, with the exceptions of topical or relevant gore (eg war footage) which should be spoilered and clearly described.
For: Wvobbly, Caballo, Redlidmilk, Krates, m00dy, Barbara_Pitt
Against: Discomrade
VOTE PASSED
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 04:43:00 No. 13036
>>13020 >Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl" >Passed *sigh* And so begins the path to reddit. I really hoped people'd be more reasonable. Can a revote be called for later?
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 06:29:31 No. 13038
>>13009 >it's creative it isn't.
>rest of the points why wasn't that logic applied to every other word filter? are you saying "uyghur" does get under your skin?
>if a stupid internet buzzphrase triggers you this much you need to re-evaluate your priorities and sensitivities, because there is A LOT more important things to be offended by or outraged over than a casual slur on an imageboard. nice argument against all filters. I agree, let's remove all filters.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-09-21 (Tue) 08:58:59 No. 13041
>>12977 It would also have been funny because Ayrshire is known for 1) a historical cannibal tribe and 2) now it’s full of Scotland’s far right, for whatever reason.
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 09:32:05 No. 13044
>>13041 nobody gives a fuck about scotland or the scottish. england could genocide all the scots and you wouldn't get so much as a facebook frame.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-09-21 (Tue) 10:36:56 No. 13046
>>13044 Seems actually reactionary of you to me
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 10:40:46 No. 13048
>>13036 Why? Only troonposters rant about trans people using the word troon.
Why is it even reddit. Theres nothing more reddit than the trans culture war. This wordfilter targets the people obsessed with the trans culture war.
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 10:46:55 No. 13049
>>13044 >england could genocide all the scots now there's an idea, finally someone says it
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 15:22:16 No. 13058
>>13044 Fuck you too, ya anglo-saxon cunt
>>13048 See
>>13009 >>13038 >isn't Yes, it is.
>logic applied to every other word filter THey are. Uyghur is used to replace a slur and comes off as mocking of "muh china" fags from /pol/, transhumanist refers to transhumanist, also playing on the ambiguousness of the slur to mean another termin etc.
>argument against filters Like I said at the start, I don't think too many filters is a good idea, but they shouldn't be obvious cope.
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 03:48:03 No. 13085
>>13058 >Uyghur is used to replace a slur "troon" is a slur
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 03:52:04 No. 13086
>>13085 No, transhumanist is a slur, troon is internet slang based on a spelling fuck up by some anon years ago. Nobody uses it IRL.
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 04:07:20 No. 13089
>>13086 >>13085 >transhumanist You know the word I mean
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 08:13:48 No. 13092
>>13038 Uyghur was chosen specifically because back then the "uyghur genocide" was a popular subject.
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 09:59:31 No. 13093
>>13036 >>13009 >being triggered by assuming other people are triggered for filtering troon to cute girl Idk kind of just sounds like you are the triggered ones. Perhaps you should stop caring about what bottom of the barrel right wingers think of you?
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 13:11:55 No. 13097
>>13036 >And so begins the path to reddit. I really hoped people'd be more reasonable. Can a revote be called for later? You are worried that this will be a first step towards entrenching a radlib hierarchy ?
I guess that is a warranted concern
This could be counteracted tho by filtering all the reddit social exclusion words, like "tankie" to "beloved comrade".
We could filter "class reductionist" to "class conscious" that would probably ward off the red neoliberals from reddit.
No it originated in scifi for people who want to put technology in their bodies, it doesn't have any inherent negative connotations.
I guess the line between technology based body upgrades and self mutilation can be a little blurred, if medical and ethical standards are lacking, and it turns into a mindless merging with the machines mindset. But on the other side stuff like amputee-prosthesis and eye-glasses are also technically transhumanism.
>>13093 I don't think that anon is entirely wrong, this could be seen as partaking in the idpol spectacle. Probably not the best call.
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 13:13:47 No. 13098
>>13086 >>13097 (me)
forgot to tag this post
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 14:30:01 No. 13099
>>13097 >It originated in scifi for people who want to put technology in their bodies Idiot, it got filtered, transhumanist isn't the actual thing I put in the post.
>a first step towards entrenching a radlib hierarchy Yes, given that it demonstrates
A) an utter lack of humor and creativity in the face of slurs and insults
B) proves the rightwing meme about us being "over sensitive troоns" because of the filter to such a "cutesy" liberal term. Like I said in the beginning, if you get validation from a word filter you need to seriously rethink your priorities.
>filtering all the reddit social exclusion words, like "tankie" to "beloved comrade". Absolutely based idea
>filter "class reductionist" to "class conscious" that would probably ward off the red neoliberals from reddit. This, this is excellent
>>13092 Also because it's a topic that triggers /pol/ in their "muh china" rants.
>>13093 By filtering the posts you're demonstrating that you do care about /pol/ and their shitposts, since only /pol/ tends to use them, or one of us during an angry rant against idpol, once in a blue moon.
>N-no U-ur triggurd Fuck off
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