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 No.12175

These are the votes for this week. Please vote on the posts below, not this OP itself. Once again, please note that anons cannot actually vote, and their opinions are simply advisory. Thank you to all users and mods for their participation.

In addition, please keep this topic on-topic. All extraneous posts may be removed without warning. With that, here are this week's votes;

 No.12176

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>>12175
Vote: Wordfilter troon, tr00n and other variations to "Troon, Ayrshire"

VERSUS!

Proposal: Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl"

Please vote for both proposals if you accept both, or only one, if you are only in support of one. If you are voting against, please vote against both, unless you only oppose one vote. The proposal with the most 'for' votes will be accepted (unless neither pass).

 No.12177

>>12175
Vote: Consider all leftychan raid posts, threads or derails either /meta/ (if actually containing good-faith discussion and not just trolling) or deletable.
If it is a non-trolling derail within the thread, the mod should capcode announce that the offending conversation has been moved to a relevant /meta/ thread, so as to cleanly remove the derail.

 No.12178

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>>12175
Vote: Explicitly ban gore, with the exceptions of topical or relevant gore (eg war footage) which should be spoilered and clearly described.

 No.12180

>>12176
vote for "cute girl", will probably make them angrier
>>12177
vote for
>>12178
vote for

 No.12181

>>12176
Vote for both, but I prefer Troon, Ayrshire if it comes down to it. 'cute girl' is potentially funny but seems a bit too chasery. Besides what about transmen hmm?

>>12177
I find their nonsense sort of funny, so I dunno really. I guess I abstain for now.

>>12178
For.

 No.12182

filter troon to
Totally Ravishing Object of Obsessive Need

 No.12183

>>12176
I support both, don't mind either but prefer "cute girl"
>>12177
For
>>12178
For

 No.12184

>>12182
You'll have to make that a proposal, this is the voting topic. Funny tho.

 No.12189

>>12176
I vote for “cute girl”,

 No.12190

I vote for "catboy"

 No.12191

>>12178
I love how you guys let a fucking fbi.gov drama whore influence your decisions these days, kek.

 No.12192

>>12177
How do you define "good faith?"

 No.12195

>>12176
>Vote: Wordfilter troon, tr00n and other variations to "Troon, Ayrshire"
Vote for "Troon, Ayrshire"
>Proposal: Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl"
Abstain
>>12177
Vote for.
>>12178
Vote for.

 No.12197

>>12191
This website doesn't have a Díscord server schizo

 No.12198

>>12197
Yes it does, the matrix

 No.12206

>>12198
Gore was already banned tho, read the manifesto.

 No.12216

>>12176
Vote yes for cute girl.
Transbros r real but pol seemingly has no idea they exist.
>>12177
I think we should just keep on ignoring them. They are basically a crazy ex at this point. Don't capcode or grant them attention.
>>12178
Vote yes assuming the gist of this is that apolitical and severe gore is banned and topical/relevant and political e.g. agitprop or combat/protest related gore is allowed with a spoiler and clear indication that it includes gore (so basically the status quo minus rekt threads) of course media showing more minor bodily harm or death should be allowed. Just not gratuitous and senseless displays of gore and human suffering.

..

 No.12217

>>12206
ignore him, he's just an obsessed leftychan dramafag making shit up

 No.12221

>>12176
Voting against more wordfilters. Anyone saying 'troon' looks pathetic enough already.

>>12177
Voting for . There's a public, intentional effort by a group of users to cause drama. Anons have expressed annoyance with threads being derailed to bring up old split drama. There is no reason for it to be discussed outside /meta/.

>>12178
Currently against. Gore is considered shock material like scat and fetish porn. I see no issue with it if it's signposted and spoilered (just like hardcore porn threads) but similarly to incel threads, I also see how it encourages an edgy atmosphere that is more welcome on other imageboards.

 No.12223

>>12176
>cutegirl
cringe and gay as fuck. I'd say no to both but if I had to choose, at least the Ayrshire one is actually funny and creative, and not reeking of nauseatingly liberal/weeb terminology.

 No.12224

>pic
<Ur valid
<traps = trans (ignoring that Felix specifically crossdresses as an offset to his Mistress' Tomboyish social image and personal behavior, not because they identify as a girl).
<using the nasty goblin Shapiro for this
Horrible meme.
Also
If your "validity" is based on someone else telling you are a girl (especially if they have ideological reasons to validate you)… you need to stop being naive. If you're trans, you're pretty sure that you are, if you're having a lot of doubts, you're probably just confused and stressed. Transitioning is a commitment you should consider heavily and objectively before engaging in it.
>inb4 "muh /pol/"
I have nothing against trans people, but if you actually care about these people, and aren't just shilling ideological dogma, you have to think about individual people and the needs they personally have, and not the social trends radlibs and glowfags on social media shill. People shouldn't "encourage" them because people need to make their decisions independently.

 No.12225

>>12224
Please keep off-topic out of /meta/.

 No.12227

>>12225
Fair enough, just responding to the /GET/-tier meme.

>>12224
This is supposed to be replying to >>12176 and I forgot to link it.

 No.12277

>>12176
>"cute girl"
>op pics is a cross dresser
>no filler for based man

 No.12278


 No.12298

>>12177
>Consider all leftychan raid posts, threads or derails either /meta/ (if actually containing good-faith discussion and not just trolling) or deletable
I agree with this part. I would vote yes with the caveat that I mentioned earlier, that we should continue to ignore them and avoid giving them any more attention by making public announcements.

>>12224
>>12227
>>12277
Actually according to the author the light novels are canon and in one of the latest releases "Felix" expresses her gender dysphoria and female identity and adopts the name Ferris. So canonically she is trans

 No.12405

>>12176
>Proposal: Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl"
yes to this one
>>12177
>Vote: Consider all leftychan raid posts, threads or derails either /meta/ (if actually containing good-faith discussion and not just trolling) or deletable.
>If it is a non-trolling derail within the thread, the mod should capcode announce that the offending conversation has been moved to a relevant /meta/ thread, so as to cleanly remove the derail.
yes to this
>>12178
>Vote: Explicitly ban gore, with the exceptions of topical or relevant gore (eg war footage) which should be spoilered and clearly described.
qualified yes. gore needs to be defined. We need a clear definition of what counts as gore.

 No.12408

>>12298
>Felix" expresses her gender dysphoria and female identity and adopts the name Ferris
Actually that isn't true at all. This is misinterpretation by social media shills, the problem I really have in this "muh anime trans girl" bullshit. Video related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL_n5BIv7ac&ab_channel=Jakez123

 No.12411

>>12408
this

>>12298
no fuk u give tran man fillter with based man or mum gay

 No.12578

There have been 5 votes for banning gore, but no rationale apart from (to summarize) it doesn't contribute to the site, which applies to most of /siberia/.
It seems the real issue is with /i/diots using it as a controversial issue to incite drama to try and ruin the site, but I haven't yet seen a convincing reason why gore itself (as a legitimate interest topic, suitably spoilered and declared) is any less acceptable than BBC, furry porn, or other 'deviant' and frequently revolting interests. Just don't click the spoilers and hide the thread.

It really feels like most of the recent rules have been 'stop liking what I don't like' and that's a destructive precedence. The solution should be to stop tolerating dramafags, not to ban their topic-of-the-day. Please reconsider your positions on this vote.

 No.12584

>>12578
Gore is already banned though. This vote doesn't really change anything but we might as well confirm it.

 No.12585

>>12584
Why should we confirm it? Why is it banned if it's not posted recklessly or in bad faith?

 No.12586

>>12578
Incase you haven't noticed the jannies here are the drama whores with Avatar fags to boot, mod.

 No.12593

>>12578
the fundamental issue as to why these votes have gotten more prominence recently when in the past we did it more informally as anti-raider tactics as you talk of is largely because of the big conversation we had a week or two ago about the ruleset and how it could be vague and unclear on what was situationaly banned and what wasn't. we largely aren't voting on a perma-ban on gore within the ruleset, hell, we are already effectively banning gore a la what you suggest now (targeted against the /i/ raiders mostly), but the codification of it as outright banned within the ruleset would deter most people from posting it and inadvertently getting banned, while like the idpol rule we could situationaly allow (and very explicitly and strictly moderate) the conversation so it can be "productive", however much productive gore threads can ever be.

tl;dr its a half-measure with a load of legalese innuendo meant to make it clear that we have a strict mandate to ban gore threads as needed, but as per most of our rules, there is enough flexibility to allow threads as we deem fit. unless we make a good solution to having a short list of de-facto banned things, this sort of de-jure system is the best way to not get innocent randoms caught in the crossfire of banning raiders.

theoretically anyways, I don't think we ever had a gore thread in siberia prior, so I kinda imagine this is all just a giant spam effort by outside actors, but I digress.

 No.12810

>>12176
"Troon, Ayshire" is my winner.
>>12177
yes
>>12578
The fact there is no history of gore on our site before recently suggests to me a blanket ban wouldn't for the moment make a difference. I do agree on the general idea of a /b/ style board.

 No.12813

At the rate wordfilters are being, the average thread is going to look like the end results of a Mad Libs game with the original topic of discussion completed obfuscated. Grow a spine, not every phrase or concept mods dislike deserves a wordfilter.

 No.12814

>>12813
>everyone proposing wordfilters is a mod
kys schizoid

 No.12815

>>12814
Take a chill pill.
>>12813
I am not gonna make a list but they are exclusively swear words (anti-spam) and one other.

 No.12834

>>12810
>"Troon, Ayshire" is my winner.
Based

>>12814
True, but they do make a point, too many filters really do make conversations sound like Mad Libs game.

 No.12838

>>12834
>Troon, Ayshire
has something to do with cows or live stock ?
Isn't that a bit too incendiary ?

Can't you use a random noun from the dictionary for the word filter, at least that will cause occasionally hilarious results. Or instead of a dictionary take a list of all the nouns from a novel that is known for having spicy language for a bit of extra fun.

 No.12841

troon = cute girl
trooning out = doing cute things

 No.12846

>>12838
If that's incendiary you're really on the wrong site. It's a joke filter, not a censor.
>nouns
Like? Cutegirl and other shit is both cringe as fuck and just screams cope from the site; that /leftypol/ is so insecure that it can't handle generic chan lingo. Ayrshire lets us thumb our noses at /pol/ and shows that we have a sense of humor.
>hilarious results
won't work.

>>12841
>trooning out
No one says that
>"muh cute girl"
Dead liberal weeb meme, pls stop

 No.12848

>>12846
>Cutegirl and other shit is both cringe as fuck and just screams cope from the site; that /leftypol/ is so insecure that it can't handle generic chan lingo. Ayrshire lets us thumb our noses at /pol/ and shows that we have a sense of humor.
Ayrshire is reddit tier so I'm not sure what you're talking about here
>a hur hur hur did you mean the thing that is spelled the same?
This is 99% of reddit humor

 No.12849

>>12848
>Ayrshire is reddit tier
1) You must lurk on reddit a lot to know that
2) searching up Ayrshire doesn't bring up a reddit page until page 3 of my browser and not in relation to any memes, so I don't know the drugs you took but…

The word you're looking for is homophone, and no, neither is that "99%" of reddit humor (source: your redditor ass) nor is it bad humor. You really don't understand the meaning of "reddit" on chans, do you? It's statistically impossible for there to be 100% exclusivity of memes on either site, it's the reason they're MEMES dumbass. Reddit shit is stuff like liberal takes on politics or the need to censor slurs obsessively to the point of obscenity. Reddit does not have a Troon filter or almost any filters at all, it just has bots ban people for saying "de evul vurd".

TL;DR: screaming "reddit" is not an argument

 No.12851

>>12849
>TL;DR: screaming "reddit" is not an argument
i see you haven't met sage

 No.12852

>>12851
No I've 'met' them, but the mentally ill are an outlier.

 No.12871

>>12176
I don't think "troon" should be filtered tbh. That word isn't used enough to warrant it.

>>12191
While the leaked screencaps were cringe, many people on here share that poster's sentiment that posting random gore for the sake of shocking people is psycho shit. I bet the mods received gore reports from several people, plus gore is spammed during raids all the time so people are obviously going to be fed up with that shit and report it a lot. You faggots caused this.

 No.12907

>>12871
>You faggots caused this.
paradox intervention is a funny thing.

 No.12913


 No.12976

>>12176
It's better to filter it to tibetan or dalai or dalai lama

 No.12977

reposting SocDem's case for "Troon, Ayrshire" over "cute girl":
>when you filter a term from negative to positive, it's easy for the person who made the filtered post to assume that it's been done because the site's userbase is just sensitive and offended by that term, reinforcing a view that they're basically correct to use it and that the site is oversensitive. when you filter it in a more neutral way i think it helps to convey that the problem isn't that this term or that term is particularly offensive, but that it's tedious and unoriginal, or obviously marks one as an outsider posting bait.
>in this particular case I like the elegance that would come with a filter that leaves the originally intended term intact (so obviously users aren't hurt by the word!) while still showing contempt for how the poster has let slip their lazy, cliched, idpol-brained thinking by making a joke of it. ideally i'd like a filter that makes people who make such posts to go "wait, what?" rather than "haha triggered!!" - it's subjectively funnier and potentially more productive if it leads to them making better posts in future.


>>12838
>has something to do with cows or live stock ?
where did you get that from? Troon, Ayrshire is a harbor and seaside tourist town, not an agricultural one.

 No.12980


 No.12998

>>12977
>where did you get that from? Troon, Ayrshire is a harbor and seaside tourist town, not an agricultural one.
Maybe cuz Ayrshire is a breed of cattle (I looked that up and got that result as well)

 No.12999

>>12977
"Troon, Ayrshire" is a retarded filter for "tr00n*. It's not even a filter, because the word is still there. It's at the level of "I wanna murder them … in minecraft." You still got your original point across, just added a modifier. Troon should be filtered to something like "cutie".

 No.13004

>>12999
>N-no I want my generic shit cutegirl filter!!!!
this is so tiresome.

 No.13006

>>12999
that's true of every filter, practically everyone knows all of them right away. the only people who don't know tend to be the OPs of posts that trip the filter, and they're just about to learn because they know that's not what they wrote.

 No.13009

>>12999
I'm going to summarize 3 points about why it should be troon, Ayrshire and not "muh cutie"
1 - removing "troon" demonstrates that we're sensitive enough for it to get under our skin. Reinforcing the view that they're right to use it and that /leftypol/ is oversensitive. Using the word but messing with the meaning turns the joke around on /pol/
2 - After 1 time the filter is going to be known by posters and they'll get around it fast, till including the word minimizes the motivation to do so in the future
3 - it's creative and less boring because, to be frank, Ayrshire is not a place I knew much about before this filter proposition
4 - Troon is so underused on his site that a filter is pretty much unneeded, if you're gonna have one, then completely removing the word validates its impact on you to /pol/ - if a stupid internet buzzphrase triggers you this much you need to re-evaluate your priorities and sensitivities, because there is A LOT more important things to be offended by or outraged over than a casual slur on an imageboard.

 No.13020

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>>12175 (OP) (You)
>>12176
Vote: Wordfilter troon, tr00n and other variations to "Troon, Ayrshire"

For: Caballo, Redlidmilk, Krates, Pask
Against: Discomrade, Comet

VOTE FAILS

VERSUS!

Vote: Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl"

For: Wvobbly, Caballo, Redlidmilk, m00dy, Barbara_Pitt
Abstain: Krates
Against: Discomrade, Comet

VOTE PASSED

>>12177
Vote: Consider all leftychan raid posts, threads or derails either /meta/ (if actually containing good-faith discussion and not just trolling) or deletable.
If it is a non-trolling derail within the thread, the mod should capcode announce that the offending conversation has been moved to a relevant /meta/ thread, so as to cleanly remove the derail.

For: Wvobbly, Redlidmilk, Krates, Discomrade, m00dy, Barbara_Pitt, Pask, Comet
Abstain: Caballo

VOTE PASSED

>>12178
Vote: Explicitly ban gore, with the exceptions of topical or relevant gore (eg war footage) which should be spoilered and clearly described.

For: Wvobbly, Caballo, Redlidmilk, Krates, m00dy, Barbara_Pitt
Against: Discomrade

VOTE PASSED

 No.13036

>>13020
>Wordfilter troon/tr00n etc. to "cute girl"
>Passed
*sigh* And so begins the path to reddit. I really hoped people'd be more reasonable. Can a revote be called for later?

 No.13038

>>13009
>it's creative
it isn't.
>rest of the points
why wasn't that logic applied to every other word filter? are you saying "uyghur" does get under your skin?
>if a stupid internet buzzphrase triggers you this much you need to re-evaluate your priorities and sensitivities, because there is A LOT more important things to be offended by or outraged over than a casual slur on an imageboard.
nice argument against all filters. I agree, let's remove all filters.

 No.13041

>>12977
It would also have been funny because Ayrshire is known for 1) a historical cannibal tribe and 2) now it’s full of Scotland’s far right, for whatever reason.

 No.13044

>>13041
nobody gives a fuck about scotland or the scottish. england could genocide all the scots and you wouldn't get so much as a facebook frame.

 No.13046

>>13044
Seems actually reactionary of you to me

 No.13048

>>13036
Why? Only troonposters rant about trans people using the word troon.

Why is it even reddit. Theres nothing more reddit than the trans culture war. This wordfilter targets the people obsessed with the trans culture war.

 No.13049

>>13044
>england could genocide all the scots
now there's an idea, finally someone says it

 No.13058

>>13044
Fuck you too, ya anglo-saxon cunt

>>13048
See >>13009

>>13038
>isn't
Yes, it is.
>logic applied to every other word filter
THey are. Uyghur is used to replace a slur and comes off as mocking of "muh china" fags from /pol/, transhumanist refers to transhumanist, also playing on the ambiguousness of the slur to mean another termin etc.
>argument against filters
Like I said at the start, I don't think too many filters is a good idea, but they shouldn't be obvious cope.

 No.13085

>>13058
>Uyghur is used to replace a slur
"troon" is a slur

 No.13086

>>13085
No, transhumanist is a slur, troon is internet slang based on a spelling fuck up by some anon years ago. Nobody uses it IRL.

 No.13089

>>13086
>>13085
>transhumanist
You know the word I mean

 No.13092

>>13038
Uyghur was chosen specifically because back then the "uyghur genocide" was a popular subject.

 No.13093

>>13036
>>13009
>being triggered by assuming other people are triggered for filtering troon to cute girl
Idk kind of just sounds like you are the triggered ones. Perhaps you should stop caring about what bottom of the barrel right wingers think of you?

 No.13097

>>13036
>And so begins the path to reddit. I really hoped people'd be more reasonable. Can a revote be called for later?
You are worried that this will be a first step towards entrenching a radlib hierarchy ?
I guess that is a warranted concern
This could be counteracted tho by filtering all the reddit social exclusion words, like "tankie" to "beloved comrade".
We could filter "class reductionist" to "class conscious" that would probably ward off the red neoliberals from reddit.

>transhumanist is a slur

No it originated in scifi for people who want to put technology in their bodies, it doesn't have any inherent negative connotations.
I guess the line between technology based body upgrades and self mutilation can be a little blurred, if medical and ethical standards are lacking, and it turns into a mindless merging with the machines mindset. But on the other side stuff like amputee-prosthesis and eye-glasses are also technically transhumanism.

>>13093
I don't think that anon is entirely wrong, this could be seen as partaking in the idpol spectacle. Probably not the best call.

 No.13098

>>13086
>>13097 (me)
forgot to tag this post

 No.13099

>>13097
>It originated in scifi for people who want to put technology in their bodies
Idiot, it got filtered, transhumanist isn't the actual thing I put in the post.
>a first step towards entrenching a radlib hierarchy
Yes, given that it demonstrates
A) an utter lack of humor and creativity in the face of slurs and insults
B) proves the rightwing meme about us being "over sensitive troоns" because of the filter to such a "cutesy" liberal term. Like I said in the beginning, if you get validation from a word filter you need to seriously rethink your priorities.
>filtering all the reddit social exclusion words, like "tankie" to "beloved comrade".
Absolutely based idea
>filter "class reductionist" to "class conscious" that would probably ward off the red neoliberals from reddit.
This, this is excellent

>>13092
Also because it's a topic that triggers /pol/ in their "muh china" rants.

>>13093
By filtering the posts you're demonstrating that you do care about /pol/ and their shitposts, since only /pol/ tends to use them, or one of us during an angry rant against idpol, once in a blue moon.
>N-no U-ur triggurd
Fuck off


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