No.12204
In the Game of Chans you either win, or you see your friends become enemies.
No.12205
>>12204More like you see your friends become enemies regardless, and maybe you "win."
No.12210
>>12202Only mods want to split
No.12211
>>12205Chans are like state fairs.
Most of them are filled with reactionary shit.
Many outright have a cult of personality on trump.
There's something for everyone.
You'll find the most decadent Americ*n shit.
If you're an adult, you're probably grilling somewhere or organizing the fair.
If you're a child, you're playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes.
There's no reason to have this thread.
No.12212
>>12201HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAoooooooooooooooooooooooh boy
No.12213
So it's the new mayo thread.
No.12218
>>12202.net has better boards.
Obsessing over PPH is pathetic especially when this place is basically reddit at this point.
No.12219
>>12202This is taken way out of context and intentially mislead.
On a good day the board broaches 110 unique ip's.
Slow boards typically only get checked up on once per day by dedicated users.
No.12229
>>12218they're literally the same except for the conspiracy board and /i/ which are both terrible ideas. conspiracies barely merit a cyclical let alone a board, and /i/ shouldn't exist at all, the fact that it does is a testament to the fbi.gov dramafag ways of the retarded zoomers that run that site.
cope
No.12230
>>12229>they're literally the sameno we also renamed /roulette/ to /777/ because 7chan is the perfect imageboard
next coma needs to give us a /y2k/ board
No.12231
>>12230Coma is trying to relive the glory days of 7chan from like 10 years ago. move on.
No.12233
>>12231$10 says he is the one who picked Yotsuba.
No.12234
>>12232yeah but it only makes sense when then name of your site is 7chan. its only a good name in that context
No.12235
>>12234The term 777 comes from the winning spin of a slot machine you absolute fucking children, kek.
No.12236
>>12233It was voted on. Also 7chan is Yotsuba B by default you retarded newfag redditoids. This is literally just a bunch of org jannies seething that their admin left and being salty as fuck that a higher up left the inner circle. 👍
No.12237
>>12235We know that. The point is it still doesn't make sense as a pun without the 7chan name. Just being a gambling reference isn't clever.
No.12238
>>12236>>12235I feel like coma is samefagging alot in this thread. Keep seething about your dead site and stay the fuck off this one
No.12239
>>12229Conspiracy threads are currently the most popular threads with the best effort posts on your board
No.12240
>>12239conspiracy theories without an element of institutional or class analysis is anti Marxist and can lead to reactionary conclusions
No.12241
>>12237Yes cause roulette is so much more witty, kek.
>>12238You realize leftypol is just as irrelevant in the grandscope of things right with you poultry 2k monthly's.
No one cares about obsessing over PPH but you egotistical faggot jannies.
>>12240You guys could at least lurk the board before you bother trying to trash it.
No.12244
>>12242>Why can't people just let things stay the way they are why do they always have to go about trying to change and alter things that are unjust or wrong with society?!?!You people are pathetic as fuck and would get clapped in any revolutionary period quick.
No.12245
>>12244>Why can't people just let things stay the way they are why do they always have to go about trying to change and alter things that are unjust or wrong with society?!?!This isn't a revolution. You already have a site which you can change however you like and do whatever you like with. The only problem is that when people are allowed to vote with their feet, they choose this one. I guess there is no popular support for the junta after all, and melon/zul's clique aren't some heros to the users.
All the raiding, the shitting up threads ever since is literally just you fuckers seething that when given a choice, the users choose to stay here. "changing society" wouldn't be a problem, if the split had gone the other way and most users migrated to leftychan. You would be saying cry harder jannies. But it didn't.
The only reason you haven't left already is because you feel entitled to force the users under melon/zul's cliques control. Well guess what, you can't. And eventually even the schizos and seethers like coma will get tired and fuck off.
How about you let the people decide, thats what user democracy is after all. If people want to go to your site they will. Otherwise they will stay here. How about getting users your own way instead, if your method is so much better.
Maybe there can even eventually be peace and a webring, but not if you faggots keep on with the /pol/tier shittery.
No.12247
>>12240It’s good they are all from a class analysis then. Just because you are too much of a dumb ass to understand something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
>>12245>people voted with their feet You are actually delusional. You kept the domain and people staid by default. You then made a clone site in order to misdirect people looking for the other board
>oh I guess the users just wanted this Except the vast majority of users didn’t want a split, only you retarded jannies want that.
>>12242>no one had a problem before Again, another total and complete lie. You made a clone site to misdirect users, you have also all gone out of your way to smear it, long before there was any raid thread
No.12248
>>12246>the mod says touch grass Again, you people are completely and utterly delusional. You mod an image board. You have absolutely zero right to tell anybody to touch grass.
No.12249
>>12248>You mod an image board. You have absolutely zero right to tell anybody to touch grass.and you're seething about someone else's modding of an imageboard so what does that make you
No.12250
how are there people in this thread
go outside
No.12251
>>12242Oh and also, this is my fucking board. I have been here longer than most of the mods save one or two. You entitled reddioit faggots joined up late, decided you should become mods and shape the thing in your image, then fucking ruined it, and now you want to turn it into a lib/normie shithole which is exactly the opposite of why it existed in the first place.
You bang on about muh quality this. None of you are well read, not one. You are psueds. You bang on about muh theory, there literally isn’t a single theory thread anywhere near the top of the catalogue. What you fsggots bring is nothing but endless eceleberry, but only your specific ones of your choosing. It’s a fucking a single one of you would even consider yourself intelligent, or even left wing. You are a bunch of spoiled petty little hipster libs, and you have ruined another thing, like you jobless middle class babies always do. Have you considered people who actually work and actually have a stake in the left and aren’t just some internet NEET might actually want to use this board, not just to endlessly waste their sad pathetic life like you mods do, but because they actually need the left, but oh no you need a place to feel powerful and meaningful because you are a fucking loser, so you want to Taylor conversations you aren’t even involved in because you just can’t stand other people having a discussion. You make me sick. I hope you fucking die
No.12252
>>12249I’m not the one telling you touch grass you dumb fucking retard.
>oooh you’re seething >ooooh you actually care about this place Yes. I do. Do you not? Why do you mod it then you fucking little child
No.12254
>>12247>NOOO! YOU CLONED THE SITE!I'm laughing internally at the level of cope this required. Does anyone give a fuck? It's not like 95%+ of the active userbase doesn't know about the other domain seeing as they were redirected there for a
whole week. They could go at any time, literally nothing is stopping them. Yet what you see is that the other site's pph/ips are dropping and this site is already back up to pre split levels.
The other site only has the same schizos, incels, etc. and other chronically banned people, while everyone else slowly leaves. Literally a carbon copy of the leftpol situation at the end or the bunkerchan/.org split, etc.
Saying users took the path of least resistance is pure cope. If the users here thought the mods here are as bad as people say, wouldn't there be even a little interest in the other site? If you listen to people like Coma you'd practically think the modocracy was committing war crimes on the users daily. Yet, no one seems to give a fuck. If the modocracy was really that bad, I think the small effort of bookmarking a slightly different domain wouldn't be that much of a big deal.
The fact is it was delusion that lead to hubris of the junta. They thought they were representing some silent majority while in fact the only people they were listening to was a small clique of one-issue chronically online schizos in the user congress and elsewhere.
No.12256
>>12254Why have you word filtered the name of the site then and why don’t you allow discussion if it was muh free market of ideas choice
No.12257
>>12254>we mods represent the majority Delusion again. Complete delusion. Nobody wanted the split. Nobody at all. You are the clique.
You deleted union threads, which were more popular than your congress. Delusion delusion delusion
No.12258
>>12256>allow us to shit up every unrelated thread with metadrama and shill our sitethe same reason they don't allow people to shill their fbi.govs and other rando sites. Again. this is just cope. Do you actually and literally think most of the active users DON'T know about the other site's domain? because that's the only way the word filter would make a difference. The wordfilter isn't about preventing free speech its about improving quality of life for the vast majority of non schizo posters who don't want to see that autism plastered across every single thread in siberia
No.12259
>>12254>muh skitzos The only thread in your catalogue of any value recently is about 9/11. Kek. You literally don’t like any of the good things about this board
No.12260
>>12254exactly what you said. Honestly it befuddles me how obsessed and pathetic they are that they are just constantly whining and trying to do gayops here instead of posting on their own god damn site.
>>12255Yeah, I'm glad we have a free schizo quarantine under a different domain but they keep trying to drag us down with them and ruin leftypol's reputation with other communities
No.12261
>>12257>MY SITE ISN'T POPULAR BECAUSE IM OPPRESSED!>>12259what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
No.12262
>>12258>its about protecting the majority of users from seeing a URL Oh really, so you have asked a majority of users about this? You asked them about the clone site as well, that wasn’t just something you mods cooked up in a fit of pique?
No.12263
>>12261It's just increasingly delusional cope. If only these losers would namefag already so they could be easily filtered
No.12264
>>12260>they keep trying to ruin our reputation You are a bunch of furry lib anarcho bidenisrs who call the police when they lose their stuffed animal there is nothing else we could possibly do
No.12265
>>12261>what the fuck does the content of threads have to do with anything Says the “muh board quality” cunts. Kekkkkk
No.12266
Oh and to reiterate the union room was more popular than your congress but you deleted the threads nothing about what you say has anything to do with representing users, it’s simply bullshit
No.12267
>>12264>but muhSHUT THE FUCK UP I DON'T FUCKING CARE. NOBODY WANTS YOU FUCK OFF TO fbi.gov. I JUST WANT TO ENJOY LEFTYPOL WITHOUT WHINEY BABIES TRYING TO INTERJECT THEMSELVES IN RANDOM CONVERSATIONS
No.12268
>>12262>Oh really, so you have asked a majority of users about this? You asked them about the clone site as well, that wasn’t just something you mods cooked up in a fit of pique?<USER DEMOCRACYagain with this bullshit?🙄
No.12269
>>12267That is what the mods do also kek, must have hit a nerve with that stuffed animal comment kek, this is real seething
>>12268Two seconds ago you were saying it was about projecting this “vast majority of users” you claim to represent. But now you scoff at the idea of representation.
Yes, you are delusional
No.12270
>>12269>But now you scoff at the idea of representation. I scoff at the idea that a user congress or union can ever represent an accurate cross section of users of an anonymous imageboard.
What happens is that the vast majority don't participate and the people who do end up in those institutions are one issue schizos who spend 12+ hours a day online and complain when their one weird specific thing isn't catered to.
The majority of the people who both want to and can do input in that regard are already mods or would just become mods. You literally can't have democracy like that. Thinking that chatroom based user democracy is representative of the actual majority of users is what got the zul/melon clique into this issue in the first place. The PPH/IP count demonstrates that. Literal, empirical proof that thesis is wrong. But instead of accepting that, you have to invent these 999999 dimensional copes and conspiracies about how the modocracy are all mustache twirling villains.
Seems like you're the one who's delusional. But again, I digress.
If you want 'user democracy' so bad you have a whole site for that. So go enjoy it and leave us the fuck out of it.
No.12271
>>12270>wall of text >people won’t participate But people did, more than participated in your congress, and you deleted it.
If you wanted it to be representative, you wouldn’t have deleted it.
You are claiming your mod clique is more representative. Based on what?
No.12272
>>12271>Based on what?based on this:
>>12260numbers don't lie, buddy. The fact is you lost, not because of some evil scheme of the mods, but because most of the actual users didn't follow or agree with you. You made your bed now lie in it.
No.12273
>>12272So a circular argument then.
How do you respond to the fact the union was more popular than your congress and you deleted it? You can’t. So you’ve ignored it.
Did the users want a split? No. Did they want the clone site and the word filter? No.
Only you mods did that.
No.12274
>>12273>How do you respond to the fact the union was more popular than your congress and you deleted it? You can’t. So you’ve ignored it. I wasn't involved in that decision. But even if it had more users doesn't mean its representative.
>Did the users want a split? No. Did they want the clone site and the word filter? No. obviously the consented to it by remaining on the site. If they hated it that much they'd go to yours.
No.12275
>>12274>I wasn’t involved in that decision So you wouldn’t have agreed with it then?
>even if it had more users It would be more representative than your congress and certainly your mod clique. If it hadn’t been deleted it would have been even more representative but it wasn’t allowed to get that far, precisely because the mods were afraid of user representation.
>they would just use yours You suppress knowledge of it, and smear it using mod powers, they don’t have a fair choice and you know it. Which is why non of them consented to the clone site and none of them consented to the word filter, which is something on you mods did, which you simply aren’t even denying
No.12276
>>12275
>It would be more representative than your congress and certainly your mod clique.No it wouldn't, since there's no particular reason ANY chatroom based "democracy" wouldn't suffer from the exact same problems outlined here:
>>12270 which you ignored and so derided as a "wall of text".
>You suppress knowledge of itagain,
THEY ALL ALREADY KNOW IF IT. They went to the domain
FOR A WHOLE WEEK, and the word filter
wasn't implemented until like a week after that. Are the mods just supposed to allow you to shit up every thread forever and ever until you get what you want? Because what it seems like you're asking for is the ability to shit up every single fucking thread with metadrama and links to your site, derail every unrelated conversation, spam your site, until you make the whole site unusable, all in the hopes of getting users to migrate against their will.
And don't even PRETEND that sort of bad faith shittery isn't EXACTLY whats going on because you have people in the .org raid thread on /i/ bragging about doing EXACTLY THAT, DERAILING the site on PURPOSE. You are literally hurting the leftypol community just so you can be king of a slightly bigger imageboard. You are totally full of SHIT pretending that you care about the users. If you really cared you'd put that above your own seething ego, but you don't.
YOU'VE HAD PLENTY OF TIME. Should you be allowed to make the whole site shittier for everyone else just to have a chance to save your dying schizohole? No. you've said your piece. Now fuck off.
You are such an insufferable faggot, you literally just ignore every argument and evidence, there's no point talking to a person like you.
No.12279
>>12276Well, of course it won’t be representative of you delete it lmao. Which you did. Answer that retard
>you had a whole week Oh wow so generous..
In which time.. you were deleting all mention of it. Seriously don’t you get tired of just making up these narratives?
No.12280
>>12276>for everyone elseOh.. according to who do you represent everyone?
No.12281
>>12279Not gonna bother with this but it's been a month, most of which you spent here instead of your own site, so yes, you had a fuckton of time.
No.12282
>>12213Every thread, if left alone, will degenerate into a mayo thread, given enough time.
No.12283
>>12279
>Oh wow so generous.. uh yeah, it fucking is. It should have been 0 days. 1 day is too long to tolerate some faggot shilling their unrelated site. If it were a fbi.gov it would be instabanned. same for a subreddit, onlyfans, or literally anything else. Literally no one has a right to shill.
>Seriously don’t you get tired of just making up these narratives?I bet you really believe that. I know people joke about schizophrenia a lot on chans but giving a mandatory psych eval to all new mods should be policy from now on.
I bet in your own schizo mind you actually believe this story where the mods are an evil clique, and the users would totally flock to your site if those dastardly jannies would just allow you to spam every thread with a link to it.
Fortunately they're smart enough not to allow you to drag the whole site through the mud just so you can try and fail
and probably turn off even more people in the process. The users are already pissed enough with fucking sage everywhere spamming the metadrama bullshit, we've been
REMARKABLY tolerant, considering there are users right now asking to have him permabanned.
No one gives a fuck. No one cares. The users who are on your site already represent the sum total of users who actually want "user democracy". All you're doing is attempting to siphon off users from here by spamming it and shitting it up to make it worse and unusable in the hopes that will benefit you.
The mods can, should, and do delete this. If anything they tolerate too much if it was up to me fucking SAGE would be permabanned.
No.12284
>>12281You have no idea how I spent my time.
So you concede then that if you delete the thread it is less representative and if you delete any mention of a site people are less likely to go there
>>12283Oh, so you’re not denying then you deleted all mention of it before the wordfilter and clone, so your previous argument of “we gave you a whole weak” is actually false. More mod lies and tricks
>unrelated site Lmao are you autistic?
>nobody is allowed to shill >like only fans I don’t even have the point out the reach here kek.
>no one gives a fuck no one cares>the users Oh, so you have some way of discerning what the users think?
No.12285
>>12283>I would permaban youBecause you can’t handle the truth
No.12286
>>12285>the truth is when you autistically annoy everyone you meet, it must be because i've got the truth/pol/ tier cumbrain
No.12287
>>12284>Oh, so you’re not denying then you deleted all mention of it before the wordfilter and cloneLEARN TO READ UYGHUR. I said IF it was up to me. IF
>Oh, so you have some way of discerning what the users think?yeah its called reading posts.
Answer this honestly, do you really think if the mods took off the wordfilter and allowed you to link the site most if any users would actually migrate?
No.12288
>>12284I think I have a pretty good idea how you spend your time lol (even if I wish I didn't)
No.12289
>>12284>so you’re not denyingdo you deny, that you chodes have a plan, in /i/ raid thread and matrix chat, to shit up .org on purpose to incentivize users to migrate?
Go on, deny that.
No.12290
>>12289You don't ask insane people to act reasonable, you just ignore them.
No.12291
>>12286i dont annoy everyone I meet. You are not everyone
>>12287>LEARN TO READ UYGHUR. I said IF it was up to me. IFstill not denying that is what happened, because it is what happened
>yeah its called reading posts.and interpreting them through your own lens, which is a retarded one
> do you really think if the mods took off the wordfilter and allowed you to link the site most if any users would actually migrate?I think some would yes, or they would post on both boards
>>12289no. needs must, I'm sure if you hadn't done the things you have done it wouldn't take such drastic measures.
I haven't posted in that particular thread myself
>>12290hard to ignore mods though
No.12292
>>12291>and interpreting them through your own lens, which is a retarded oneoh so now you're calling me retarded? fuck you asshole.
And FYI about the deleting shit AFAIK that wasn't happening although I obviously don't know every single thing every single mod does.
>no. needs must, I'm sure if you hadn't done the things you have done it wouldn't take such drastic measures. So you admit it? you're shitting up the site on purpose. You have some nerve talking about the modocracy's supposed crimes against the users while you admit to actively waging war on them.
No.12294
>>12291>I think some would yes, or they would post on both boardswell then you're living in fantasyland. Nothing more to say
No.12295
>>12292>oh so now you're calling me retarded? fuck you asshole.well if you would stop acting retarded..
hilarious you guys throw every name under the sun at me but one little call of retard and suddenly im an asshole.
>So you admit it? you're shitting up the site on purpose. did you not read the part where i said i haven't posted in that thread.
Look at threads i've posted in, you are capable as a mod, all i've done is engage in discussions, its only in meta threads I am meta.
Unlike that user who posts "stfu wrecker cuck" in every thread which you refuse to do anything about
No.12296
>>12245>>12254>The fact is it was delusion that lead to hubris of the junta. They thought they were representing some silent majority while in fact the only people they were listening to was a small clique of one-issue chronically online schizos in the user congress and elsewhere.Exactly. Agree with all your post. What a clean BTFO.
Copers gtfo. Also nice going with the raids on this site. Totally reasonable and surely something the community appreciates. The only reason I am in favor of cope.net staying up is so that I can contain your toxicity and drama. Unfortunately it is not doing a good job at that.
>>12270Omg the BTFOing continues. Anon, keep posting.
>>12272>You made your bed now lie in it.OOF.
>>12276>YOU'VE HAD PLENTY OF TIME. Should you be allowed to make the whole site shittier for everyone else just to have a chance to save your dying schizohole? No. you've said your piece. Now fuck off.Damn uygha. I hope I never cross you. You'd make me cry.
>You are such an insufferable faggot, you literally just ignore every argument and evidence, there's no point talking to a person like you.That sounds like Sage. If so, he is definitely not worth arguing with.
>>12283>Literally no one has a right to shill.Exactly. uygha at this point just marry me ok?
No.12297
if i were running /leftychan/ i'd try to find an opening for certain types of imageboard rather than trying to get users from .org
find a general that keeps being banned from 4chan and offer them protection, either a /hobby/ thread or maybe their own board. that sort of thing.
though there might be difficulties there depending on how /pol/brained the users of any candidate-general are. still, trying to grow the number of users across both sites is more likely to succeed than trying to move users between sites.
No.12299
>>12296cringe circle jerking mods
No.12300
>>12297i think both are true, if there wasn't so much mod austism, the sites could be used to grow each other, in a symbiotic relationship, I agree there are differences of opinion and how things should be run, and thats fine, but the whole thing would be alot healthier if it was mutual respect rather the mods of .org deciding for the users which other sites they can use
No.12301
>>12300There is no mutual respect when you have a fucking raid thread up for us. Go back.
No.12302
>>12301there is no mutual respect when you delete all mention of the site, then implement a word filter and build a clone site. You did these things first
No.12303
>>12301>>12300If leftychan really were grownups and not seething discor.d dramafags they'd negociate some sort of peace deal where both sites agree to go their separate ways.
Both sites would implement wordfilters filtering each others domain names out, instruct their users to stay on their own sites and stop raiding, in the matrix and /i/, remove all references to each others sites (including banners, etc.). and have that be an amicable divorce. Also ban their own users if they advocate or engage in raiding of the other site, keep their own people in check.
That's what actual peace would look like. And optionally, silently add each other to a webring with
maybe getchan and both of them. That way they can be known, without constant shilling shitting up every single thread.
>>12302Uh, answer me this. Why are you entitled to shilling and pixel space on someone else's site. You aren't. Nobody complains that leftychan does the exact same shit, considering they deleted the most bumped thread in /meta/ that was about merging with .org, maybe because a lot of the posters there were starting to agree with it. Yet mysteriously that got yeeted, but .org is supposed to allow shilling in the opposite direction?
No.12304
>>12300the difficulty is that even if the mods of both sites were on perfect terms, you'd need to decide which boards go where. if there's two /leftypol/ boards then marginal differences of moderation don't really matter, people will use the faster one and the slower one will resent it. there's a need for differentiation.
once you have the mods even just be neutral, it's hard to see much opportunity for a symbiotic relationship. there's no major group just desperate to post on /leftypol/ which isn't allowed to, and there's nothing like a general thread too big to comfortably fit on the one board which could be offered a new board.
No.12305
>>12302they wouldn't have had to build a clone site, if some sysadmin didn't go rogue and seize the site's infrastructure for himself, which he absolutely was NOT entitled to do.
No.12306
>>12303>If leftychan really were grownups and not seething discor.d dramafags they'd negociate some sort of peace dealyou people are actually legitimately insane. And you keep proving it. We have asked to parlay, you know this, and you post things like this:
>>12202Complete and total autism
>Both sites would implement wordfilters filtering each others domain names out, why would they do this? It makes absolutely no sense particularly if you want a web ring. Both sites could instead share users if you weren't such insane jealous control freaks. You literally display every symptom of a narcisstic personality disorder.
>Uh, answer me this. Why are you entitled to shilling and pixel space on someone else's site.why are you entitled to decide who can shill what? Because I'm a user and I post here is why. Why shouldn't I be allowed to do this? Beside your own weird control freakery
>they deleted the most bumped thread in /meta/ that was about merging with .org, maybe because a lot of the posters there were starting to agree with it.this is nonsense because most people want to merg, there is nobody on the mod team who is against it, it is you nutjobs who refuse even to talk
No.12307
>>12305It's not a clone site, look at the URL
As I like to say, Can't go wrong with the original.
No.12308
>>12305I had absolutely zip to do with that, and that is just users suffering for the decisions mods made. You are thinking in the past, over petty shit. I am saying, it is healthier for these communities to co-exist, we could go tit for tat to the dawn of time, with you .org mods denying you have ever so much as swatted a fly, which is what you have always consistently done, but its not helpful.
Give me one good reason these sites shouldn't feed off each other, instead of this endless autism fest, because you mods, not users, mods and only mods, have this gay lover beef with each other. There is none
No.12309
>>12304nah, plenty threads on here get nuked which are threads people like to post in.
No.12310
>>12306>you people are actually legitimately insane. And you keep proving it. We have asked to parlay, you know this, and you post things like this: Not as far as I'm aware. No one has given any peace offer on matrix, as far as I've heard, or even started negotiating with the jannies.
also,
>Complete and total autism how do you know that person is even a mod?
>why would they do this?to stop guys like you from spamming EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THREAD with this shit, as you do. Also users are not to be "shared" they can and do literally go wherever they want. Users are not a fucking resource like starcraft minerals you autist.
>why are you entitled to decide who can shill what? Because I'm a user and I post here is why. Why shouldn't I be allowed to do this? Beside your own weird control freakery <why do mods mod.are you some sort of freeze speech absolutist? Why do mods exist at all, if not to clean up shittery, whether it be from /pol/ or barely distinguishable equivalent from you.
>this is nonsense because most people want to merg, there is nobody on the mod team who is against it, it is you nutjobs who refuse even to talkAgain, no? Literally no one has heard a fucking word about this
No.12311
>>12308>this endless autism festI do think you should stop
and get Zero No.12312
>>12310>Not as far as I'm aware. No one has given any peace offer on matrix,i was trying to get you guys to talk for like 2 or 3 days before I gave up. .net mods wanted to talk, some of you mods were up for it, but then Pasq and Anti had a ginormous chimp out and the whole thing got canned.
>how do you know that person is even a mod?mods have said things to me in chat before I was banned.
>to stop guys like you from spamming EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THREAD with this shit, so you can point to none meta threads where I have done this?
>Also users are not to be "shared" they can and do literally go wherever they wantno they can't lmao, you deliberately and purposefully stop them from doing this. You deleted a user made union thread, you word filter and misdirect them on purpose from going where they want, you delete all mention of the other site before this.
This is why you are insane and autistic, we go round and round because you refuse to admit doing these things, which you did for the direct purpose i ascribe
>Why do mods exist at all, if not to clean up shittery,shittery is posting meta in meta threads, or perhaps posting a link to another board which might be relevant in a relavant thread? Nope.
It isn't
> from /pol/ or barely distinguishable equivalent from you.this is absolutely laughable. I am infinitely more left wing than you are, you are a shitlib with internet brain worms. I can guarentee 100% you have literally never lifted a single finger to help a worker, a tenant, anything at all.
>Again, no? Literally no one has heard a fucking word about thisas above, i spent several days trying to get you to talk and the usual autism trio sperged out. If you are willing to talk, i suggest telling your other mods so. You could start by unbanning me from your congress, from which i was banned for making dick jokes lmao
>>12311i think you should stop
No.12313
>>12251>Oh and also, this is my fucking board. I have been here longer than most of the mods save one or two. You entitled reddioit faggots joined up late, decided you should become mods and shape the thing in your image, then fucking ruined it, and now you want to turn it into a lib/normie shithole which is exactly the opposite of why it existed in the first place. You bang on about muh quality this. None of you are well read, not one. You are psueds. You bang on about muh theory, there literally isn’t a single theory thread anywhere near the top of the catalogue. What you fsggots bring is nothing but endless eceleberry, but only your specific ones of your choosing. It’s a fucking a single one of you would even consider yourself intelligent, or even left wing. You are a bunch of spoiled petty little hipster libs, and you have ruined another thing, like you jobless middle class babies always do. Have you considered people who actually work and actually have a stake in the left and aren’t just some internet NEET might actually want to use this board, not just to endlessly waste their sad pathetic life like you mods do, but because they actually need the left, but oh no you need a place to feel powerful and meaningful because you are a fucking loser, so you want to Taylor conversations you aren’t even involved in because you just can’t stand other people having a discussion. You make me sick. I hope you fucking die No.12314
>>12312>so you can point to none meta threads where I have done this? if you're sage, then yeah there are like 5 threads across siberia and leftypol. I'm not going to glorify this by linking them you know what you did
No.12315
>>12312I have been telling you to get Zero, you said "yeah yeah sure". I am totally up for talking to your adult.
No.12317
>>12312>as above, i spent several days trying to get you to talk and the usual autism trio sperged outfucking WHO?
No.12318
>>12315 (me)
but if you can't keep that agreement, what's the use? Just for you to repeat the same nonsense for hours again as you do.
No.12319
>>12312>You deleted a user made union threadagain i wasn't around for that and I barely heard of it in passing.
>This is why you are insane and autistic, we go round and round because you refuse to admit doing these things, which you did for the direct purpose i ascribeno one here denied making the wordfilter, only its effect which is stopping spam. If you think a fucking wordfilter is the only thing stopping 300 users from going to your site right know you are a fucking cumbrain
No.12320
>>12299>2+2 = jannyIf you think anyone:
1. Gives a fuck about your website
2. Appreciates you raiding this website and derailing every other thread with drama
Then you're fucking delusional.
No.12321
>>12305>they wouldn't have had to build a clone site, if some sysadmin didn't go rogue and seize the site's infrastructure for himselfYes the sysadmin (zer0) did indeed do just that along with hand power to an infantile and largely absent narcissistic manchild (watermelon) and the schizo wrecker (zul) who had been grooming him, all because he felt disrespected by certain mods that denied him a feeling of authority and zul was being voted unanimously (only aside from zer0, even including watermelon) off of the mod team after his wrecker behavior including risking leaking user IPs to random users he had also been grooming and ingratiating himself with to try and force his way.
After this pivotal event the new gay of three turned to purge most of the mod team and demand the rest suck up to them. Leftypol was then subject to days of banal larp retardation from watermelon and "le epic junta xD randum!" multiple random users that dissented in these threads were banned for weeks under the false presumption or excuse that they were (then purged) moderators. The site quickly fell apart and our former sysadmin who had left out of disgust at zul and co's scheming and in order to pursue real life shit then came out of retirement as a caesarean figure in order to collaborate with the rest of the staff to redirect the domain (that he owns) to a new server under a more competent and trustworthy administration.
The dramafags have, in essence, purged themselves. Now the gay of three that had thought themselves having successfully couped the old staff and site along with the groomed attention fags, schizos, and frequently banned incels, nazbols etc. Along with comatoast who had intended to wait it out and rejoin the victorious gay of three after the coup was complete, while pretending to speak with moral authority; All of them have found that their attempt has been utterly foiled and they are left with a dead site, moderation responsibilities, and server costs. Now they kick and scream and attempt to throw poo onto the healthier, less dramafagged, and more robust community of leftypol, and pull every pathetic and obsessive little scheme they can in vain to try and take us down with them out of spite. This includes raids, blatant lies intended to stoke fears, frequent spam,
false flag attempts to pin us for raiding pol and going on unhinged rants in public spaces about site drama no-one fucking cares about that only damages the outside perception of leftypol.
No.12324
>>12251Yeah, hope you die too. Or get a hobby, whichever is fine.
No.12325
>>12312>this is absolutely laughable. I am infinitely more left wing than you are, you are a shitlib with internet brain worms. I can guarentee 100% you have literally never lifted a single finger to help a worker, a tenant, anything at all. Kek. Please out yourself. Are you sage? It must be an anglo, you can basically smell it, it's a full 4D experience.
No.12326
>>12303Just fyi, leftypol°net will be moving to discor.d soon.
No.12327
>>12326Gayops, powered by Glowcord (tm)
No.12328
>>12314So you can’t actually point to any then
>>12316Retarded. No, but you are suppressing knowledge of the site which you well know. That’s why you do it. Why else did you create the clone board?
>>12317Pasq and anti mostly
>>12319>I wasn’t around Okay, but it was done. Would you have done it at the time?
>word filter is only to stop spamOnly it literally doesn’t do that, because the post remains, only the URL is changed. So it isn’t to stop spam, but to stop people seeing the URL.
It’s funny you guys, if you truly believe this, spend a considerable amount of time lying to yourselves and the board about why you do things
>>12324Better hobby than being a mod
>>12325So, you haven’t done anything for anyone. Probably don’t even help your mum who you know doubt live with do the dishes
No.12329
I would like to know: which jannies have jobs and what are they
No.12330
>>12329I'm an undertaker, burying simps.
No.12332
Must be nice living off your parents
No.12333
>>12331It's a joke
I'll remember not to joke at you
No.12334
>>12332>>12329Most jannies have jobs which is why it took a fucking week to make the site.
No.12335
>>12334Which ones, what jobs?
No.12337
>>12336There is two reasons you can’t get a job 1) you didn’t have the opportunities as others 2) you are a spoiled brat
If it’s reason 1, fair enough. If it’s reason 2) why on Earth do you think you should be dictating the terms of a WORKERS movement
No.12340
>>12337lol, what the fuck is this? Are you really so schizo that your comeback for all of this is to hurl slurs at people, saying you're hipsters, liberals, unemployed, etc. What the literal fuck does any of this shit have to do with fucking anything? You're so in your feelings you're spewing nonsense.
And yeah, it literally is porky propaganda to say unemployment only exists because people are lazy spoiled brats. You're turning into fucking PragerU to "own the jannies".This is what losing looks like. Not to mention total projection as there's literally nothing about the jannies that you actually know on a personal level, what they do for a living, what country they're from, or anything of the sort. And you shouldn't because its anonymous. No one is required to explain shit to you either.
When you have no fucking point and you're wrong you start spewing out tons of ad hominems, which are wild and all over the fucking place because its anonymous and whoever the jannies are, is a fucking Rorschach test for whoever you don't like. I've seen the dramafags accuse the jannies of being tankies, socdems, liberals, hipsters, anarchists, hazbots, and literally any fucking ideology under the sun they personally don't like.
Take a look in the mirror and actually think for a moment, about how you got to a place in life that you are raging about "dictating terms of a workers movement" on a mongolian basket weaving forum with 300 users. This isn't a workers movement. Its a place people shitpost. Get over it and get over yourself, and learn what the fucking real world is again.
Maybe it's time for you to log off for a while.
No.12341
>>12340You are hipsters, liberals and the spoilt brat part comes out in every post.
It’s a place where people in the workers movement discuss things, and you actively suppress shitposter so shut the fuck up
No.12342
>>12340And once again.. a janny telling me to log off. Kek
No.12343
>>12341I don't know who this is but I guarantee most of the mod team is at least 10 years old than them.
No.12344
>>12342Do you literally ever spend less than 8 hours a day on this site? I fucking see you everywhere
No.12345
>>12342>>12341It's 2pm in the UK, anglo, why aren't you at work?
No.12346
if sage had a fucking job there's no way in hell he could possibly shit up this many posts, unless its some sort of shared moniker used by like 2-3 people
No.12347
>>12340>Take a look in the mirror and actually think for a momentIt's impossible, one of the things I learned here is the gulf between people that are capable of reflection and those that are not. It is as deep as the ocean (which is why I don't get angry anymore or engage in drama, it's a write-off).
No.12348
>>12343>not one janny has been able to say what job they have>>12345>what is a day off Finished all my union stuff for today, going to the gym now. What have you done Anglo?
>>12346Actually there are 5 of us
No.12349
>>12347>mods acting like they are capable of reflection You can’t even admit you were wrong simping for Haz lmaoooo.
No.12351
>>12202lmao the splits already over, their board is dead
No.12352
>>12347Literally name one single time mods admitted fault. You are right here in this thread lying and contradicting yourselves multiple times. Here for all to see, and you wanna talk about other people’s ability to reflect.
No.12353
>>12347good advice, thanks
No.12354
>>12350>the mods weren’t general Haz fans>didn’t simp for him >didn’t delete all mention of him against the wishes of the board See here you are doing it right now, making excuses instead of reflecting. Hilarious
No.12356
>>12354you're attributing the actions of some mods to the entire team, btw coma was part of the mods when that happened, do you blame him too?
No.12357
>>12335Why do you want to know?
No.12358
>>12357 (me)
Oh nvm, you're sage. Fuck off lmao.
No.12361
>>12356Yes, he also admits it and has reflected, same with deleting union threads, which you all still deny, no reflection
No.12362
>>12361just because you haven't heard it, doesn't mean it hasn't happened. There are tons internal mod talks that you don't hear. You're acting like its some unified hive mind when there are dissenting opinions buying into the fucking "caballos clique" meme bullshit
No.12363
>>12348>Actually there are 5 of us>Sage is a system of five different personalities>these five are the "union of posters">the whole thing has just been in Sage's head the whole timewhat a cliché twist
No.12364
>>12362Sage will gaslight you for hours. I've seen him do it within 4 posts in a single thread, claiming completely different things. He has absolutely no scruples.
No.12366
>>12362Oh, so you have all reflected and you think you shouldn’t have deleted the union threads then? Well that’s nice to hear, so I can make union threads on the main page then?
>>12364>projection Give an example
No.12367
>>12363There was 66 people in the union before the clamp down, more than your current congress, and that’s while being repressed
No.12369
>>12366I already called you out in the mayo thread. Presenting anything to you is a fool's errand. Any criticism, argument, evidence, you literally ignore it. There's a chance you will ignore this too.
I feel for whomever is lured to discuss anything with you.
No.12370
>>12369what if sage is actually just a bot
No.12372
>>12369So you can’t present evidence of me being inconsistent and not reflecting the then.
I will note you mods have been unable to provide and example for
any of the accusations levelled against me in this thread, dear posters, scroll up and see for yourselves
No.12374
>>12371eh I kinda feel
>>12270 is right, unironically most anons just want to grill and would only vote on major site issues, if at all.
No.12375
All anglo wreckers must hang.
No.12379
>>12251>Oh and also, this is my fucking board. I have been here longer than most of the mods save one or two. You entitled reddioit faggots joined up late, decided you should become mods and shape the thing in your image, then fucking ruined it, and now you want to turn it into a lib/normie shithole which is exactly the opposite of why it existed in the first place.
>You bang on about muh quality this. None of you are well read, not one. You are psueds. You bang on about muh theory, there literally isn’t a single theory thread anywhere near the top of the catalogue. What you fsggots bring is nothing but endless eceleberry, but only your specific ones of your choosing. It’s a fucking a single one of you would even consider yourself intelligent, or even left wing. You are a bunch of spoiled petty little hipster libs, and you have ruined another thing, like you jobless middle class babies always do. Have you considered people who actually work and actually have a stake in the left and aren’t just some internet NEET might actually want to use this board, not just to endlessly waste their sad pathetic life like you mods do, but because they actually need the left, but oh no you need a place to feel powerful and meaningful because you are a fucking loser, so you want to Taylor conversations you aren’t even involved in because you just can’t stand other people having a discussion. You make me sick. I hope you fucking die No.12380
>>12251Lib shit mods getting owned.
No.12381
>>12355It's not even close to a doctor say what you do for a living lol.
No.12382
>>12371Translation : if a janny simp had made a simp union we jannies wouldn’t have deleted it
Kek
So you admit then it’s just your petty personal beef and you don’t like people calling you out on your bullshit.
You do realise what you are taking about is a corporate union like the kind Mussolini advocated for. KEK
No.12384
>>12270I scoff at the idea of a bunch of yuppies with no stake in the system other than what their suburban middle class life provides them thinks they can run a website better than its own user base. Leftychan had the majority of the user base and then (suspiciously) the firewall for the domain started rejecting TCP connections after 7 months. So don't talk to me about what people "want" like you rich little faggots know anything about what people want
Furthermorr as is always the case the law of averages is true and large groups will always have a lower turn out to events with in that group. It's just how it goes. What matters is having thevenhes open as has been stated to you faggots over and over again.
Because you keep denying this reality and ignoring these facts the only conclusion one is left to draw is that you refuse to allow the system to exist because having such a system means you can get voted off the mod team and as such is a threat to your position of power.
People care even less about your public nanny cut le jerk so just run the sure however you want.
Into oblivion faggots
No.12385
>>12322The only cope I see is coming from People of college in this thread
No.12386
>>12384>I scoff at the idea of a bunch of yuppies with no stake in the system other than what their suburban middle class life provides them thinks they can run a website better than its own user base. oh so first we're unemployed hipsters, now we're yuppies? make up your mind
No.12387
>>12382>what you are taking about is a corporate union like the kind Mussolini advocated forjannies are fascists
No.12393
>>12372It would be nice if you at least refuted the evidence when presented. You just ignore it and move on.
No.12396
>>12321This is complete slander. I left and the events played out zero asked me to stay. I tried to mediate a peace deal between the two sites and tried to use user democracy as a wedge to fix a gridlocked system. I guess Zul invited sage to the mod room (admittedly like a dumb ass) while I was gone.
Zer0- did what he did to prevent mods from leaving. From my understanding. Everyone on the mod team to the right side of the equation (m00dy, Caballo, Wobbly, Etc) had been wanting to gett rid of Zul for a while. Considering all the egregious shit Caballo has done in the last 3 years I mean; it was pretty much a kangaroo court. Now that I was out of the way it was easy pickings to get their other buddies who have been mods with them since 8vh.net to play along (Antious for example) do zul deserve to get removed? Possibly, but, making decisions kike that post haste was never the style and only done because the opposition was starting to get tired of the constant games and bungling of accountability.
You faggots concocted this narrative about me being involved with the whole ordeal to justify not having to hold your own actions accountable (again) . It's a total falsification. The jannies here are very good at spinning up narratives and generating manufactured consent. That's how they attacked bunker. Inb4 deletion.
No.12397
>>12371Unions are inherently confrontational. They are inherently wrecking, unless they are cucked. How is this not obvious? In a leftist space anything that seeks to criticize from the outside, eg a union against the jannguard, is inherently anti-leftist, in this case, just anti-leftypol. Have you ever organized before?
No.12398
>>12386It's the same thing.
No.12399
>>12390They are like bugs. I am from Buenos Aires and I say kill em all.
No.12402
>>12390Answer for this, comacuck. Why are you attacking the community like a dirty trot. Fuck off to Mexico.
No.12403
>>12390>Using force to achieve your ends is counter revolutionary.An I speaking to leftist or what? This site is so full of skitzos.
>User democracy is bad because people won't participate<Therefore a group of 7 unaccountable mods is ok
>Using force to over throw system of oppression such as capitalism is ok<Unless it's our system then no it's bad.Take your meds you borderline fucking neurotics, kek.
No.12404
>>12403<Therefore a group of 7 unaccountable mods is okno one has a better solution
>Using force to over throw system of oppression such as capitalism is ok<Unless it's our system then no it's bad.did you seriously just pull the revolution larp card? BTW the analogue to this isn't overthrowing capitalism, its trot splitting and then planting drugs on your former comrades
No.12407
>>12396you know you can still negociate a peace deal coma, but only if Zero is involved, since ultimately its his decision
No.12409
>>12404Yes we do faggots it's on leftychan . Net lmao.
No.12410
>>12374So like most democracies then. Not even in Bolivia do they have 100% election turnout. If they just want to grill let them, if something they don’t like happens, they at least have the option of getting involved unlike now where literally any problem will be met only with derision, deflection and denial from yuppieshit lib mods
>>12386These things are not exclusive at all kek.
>>12393You haven’t presented a single piece
>>12397>unions are anti leftist No, literally the opposite is true what
>>12403This. The funny part is mods when pushed will pretend they are some revolutionary vanguard which is why they call anyone who disagrees wreckers. (While at the same time screaming that this isn’t politics and to touch grass) the thing about vanguards though is they are elected by unions in basically all instances
>>12404>no one has a better solution A user union is a better solution you insane freak
>>12406While sage was asking for the mods to have a vote on a union he was added to a room without any prior warning and left 10 minutes later
But sure janny go off
>>12407A deal would be great but you autistics think a deal is “you do exactly what we want and nothing else”
because that is how you are used to living your lives because you are spoiled brats who have never had to be social or make compromises and simply screamed at their parents until you were bought a new large body pillow No.12413
>>12410>A deal would be great but you autistics think a deal is “you do exactly what we want and nothing else” because that is how you are used to living your lives because you are spoiled brats who have never had to be social or make compromises and simply screamed at their parents until you were bought a new large body pillow yeah, thats what happens when you are at an advantage in negociations. What, do you think the 350 ip site should give the 20ip site everything. money for nothing and chicks for free?
This is just cope about losing. You've been BTFO now act like it
No.12414
>>12410>No, literally the opposite is true what You are such a gaslighter sage. I really hope you don't gaslight your girlfriend like this. It's very toxic.
No.12415
>>12410>These things are not exclusive at all kek. A yuppie is young professional aka a white collar worker under 35. You can't be a professional if you're unemployed, and presumably employed professionals aren't living with their parents.
Part of me thinks sage is just a GPT bot or room temp autism score midwit who regurgitates a bunch of phrases he doesn't understand
No.12416
>>12410>This. The funny part is mods when pushed will pretend they are some revolutionary vanguard which is why they call anyone who disagrees wreckers. (While at the same time screaming that this isn’t politics and to touch grass) the thing about vanguards though is they are elected by unions in basically all instances The funny thing is the facebook trust and safety team pretends they are some technical vanguard while they call anyone who posts gore on the site bad actors, while at the same time telling them to log off.
No.12418
>>12410>This. The funny part is mods when pushed will pretend they are some revolutionary vanguard which is why they call anyone who disagrees wreckers. (While at the same time screaming that this isn’t politics and to touch grass) the thing about vanguards though is they are elected by unions in basically all instances the only thing I know is I just want the site to fucking work and a bunch of autists one day, for no reason ruined it. Then we took it back and now everythings back to normal but they keep seething and shitting stuff up when people want to get back to grilling.
No.12419
>>12418Comet, stop same fagging.
No.12421
>>12415I think he's real, but I think he has issues. Who can rant like this for hours on end? I also don't think he has ever done serious marxist-adjacent political work. Mostly community and tenant gatherings alongside libs. I also think he has been involved in a tenants union for a long time because he can't think of any way of organizing except that.
Between work, my friends,
my bf, and my org, I have very little time left. And I've had to reduce the amount of work I put into my org. At the height, I was putting in around 10 hours a week. Most of the time I post here is during work (and that's praxis).
He's also a good example of the anti-leftist current of western leftism. Vijay Prashad says it really nice. If you are going to criticize the left, you must do so from inside and in a constructive way. Otherwise you are an enemy of the left, just as much, if not worse, than right wingers.
No.12422
>>12412Not everyone, but all of you mods are spoiled neets
>>12413You should be making the deal based on what is best for the users, non of whom wanted the split. But as usual your BPD shines through
>>12414>projection I’m not the one who has contradicted themselves over and over again in this thread, users can simply scroll up to see. They complain about how a union wouldn’t be representative, but then they delete it because it gets too popular. What could be more gaslighting? “Oh if it only it were more representative then I wouldn’t have had to suppress it” while literally telling me that unions are anti left wing.
So, so retarded. But then, these are the people who simped Haz so..
>>12415A yuppie is just a young upwardly mobile middle class person. Part of capitalism is that you can be a NEET and still be rich and mobile because of mommy and daddy (all of you guys)
>>12417No the insane freak part is the constant lying, contradicting yourselves, changing the goal posts, point blank refusal to reflect on yourselves and your actions, weird pettiness, etc. As demonstrated by the “our mod clique is better at being representative than a union, unions are anti leftist” retardary you are trying to push
No.12423
>>12407If they want leave then give us the leftychan.org domain and other subdomains that will help boost our SEO's. I already offered to give the twitter back multiple times. Jannies here are just being salty I am afraid. Since a merge isn't going to be possible. We can start there though.
No.12424
>>12421I am literally the only person being constructive and suggesting a solution, which is a union, you should look into what Vijay Prashad has written about the union movement in India, you name dropping, endless pseud. The psuederry you faggots push is possibly the worst part. So fucking pretentious
No.12425
>>12422>Not everyone, but all of you mods are spoiled neets what exactly are you basing this on? astonishing intuition?
No.12426
>>12390Why re you crying about this when you spammed our site with cp and zoophile shit after the split and gloated about it publicly? If anything you deserve it.
No.12427
>>12426Oh yeah that did happen. Kek
No.12428
>>12425Every single private conversation I have had with any of those mods lmao. Also the things the say about their lives
No.12429
>>12422>non of whom wanted the split. they also didn't want the junta. This was just a correction back to the status quo which the users didn't want to leave.
>A yuppie is just a young upwardly mobile middle class person. Part of capitalism is that you can be a NEET and still be rich and mobile because of mommy and daddy (all of you guys) you tard, they're upwardly mobile because they are climbing some corporate hierarchy, if they are already rich then its not mobility. learn your own fucking language anglo
No.12430
>>12426uhh…. when the fuck did this happen? Nobody here did that.
No.12431
>>12428give even one fucking example
No.12432
>>12421>Marxist adjacent Your shit pseud party has done nothing for anybody. Meanwhile I have actually organised proletarians in the manner the original RSDL party did, into unions, which was literally the first activity they ever did. You stupid fucking pseud
No.12433
>>12424Wasn't talking to you, gaslighter.
I know you misrepresented what I wrote on purpose to further gaslight. Incredibly dishonest.
No.12434
>>12431Moody said they live off money from their parent.
(None of you have given me any of the examples I have asked for so in terms of evidence I am way, way ahead of you lmao)
No.12435
>>12433You were talking about me. So I responded. This is why I say you people are literally insane. Because you act in ways which are insane
No.12436
>>12434>one guy represents the whole mod teamgeneralize much? why are you so obsessed with ad hominems against the mods anyway?
No.12437
>>12429You faggots are so egregious in your dishonesty.
No one wanted the system to begin with. Many people were dissatisfied with Caballo and the actions of the existing staff hence why coma left. The junta happened in response to that.
Again the jannies here split the site not the junta. They decided that it was better to damage the site and loose 1k users or so in order to hold on to power. You can't change this fact no matter how hard you but jobs want to spin it. If the jannies here weren't power hungry LARPers they would have given democracy a chance.
No.12438
>>12432>This is why I say you people are literally insane. Because you act in ways which are insane>Oh and also, this is my fucking board. I have been here longer than most of the mods save one or two. You entitled reddioit faggots joined up late, decided you should become mods and shape the thing in your image, then fucking ruined it, and now you want to turn it into a lib/normie shithole which is exactly the opposite of why it existed in the first place. You bang on about muh quality this. None of you are well read, not one. You are psueds. You bang on about muh theory, there literally isn’t a single theory thread anywhere near the top of the catalogue. What you fsggots bring is nothing but endless eceleberry, but only your specific ones of your choosing. It’s a fucking a single one of you would even consider yourself intelligent, or even left wing. You are a bunch of spoiled petty little hipster libs, and you have ruined another thing, like you jobless middle class babies always do. Have you considered people who actually work and actually have a stake in the left and aren’t just some internet NEET might actually want to use this board, not just to endlessly waste their sad pathetic life like you mods do, but because they actually need the left, but oh no you need a place to feel powerful and meaningful because you are a fucking loser, so you want to Taylor conversations you aren’t even involved in because you just can’t stand other people having a discussion. You make me sick. I hope you fucking die== No.12440
>>12436It's amazing mods claim anyone is gas lighting when they do shit like this.
No.12441
>>12436You said give one example and I gave one you fucking spastic, how about you give me an example of literally any of the 5 different things I have asked for examples of which none of you have given
No.12442
>>12440Sage is literally gaslighting when the posts are right there. He doesn't give a shit. Read the thread asshole.
No.12443
>>12440It’s like they think we can’t see what they are doing. My boss is like this. Uses the position of power to literally just warp reality
No.12444
>>12442What am I gaslighting you about?
give an example No.12447
>>12446>just making up random shit More gaslighting, still no examples
No.12448
>>12447>More gaslighting, still no examplesThe term gaslighting would imply that you're not actually crazy, which in this case, is wrong.
No.12449
>>12437>Many people were dissatisfied with Caballoso many that everyone stayed here when the caballoite coup happened and enforced a super-ultra-mega dictatorship on the masses
No.12450
This is what I said:
>[referencing Prashad] If you are going to criticize the left, you must do so from inside and in a constructive way.
This is what you said:
>you should look into what Vijay Prashad has written about the union movement in India, you name dropping, endless pseud.
Unions exist to gain power AGAINST employers and other positions of power. They are an inherently confrontational entity.
You are implying that making a union is "criticizing the left (in this case, leftypol moderation) from the inside", when it is very clearly not. And you totally disregarded everything I wrote to replace it with your own shit, and implying I am somehow anti-union. That is also gaslighting.
You aren't being constructive, but you constantly imply that you are.
Keep gaslighting. I am now aware of how constantly you do this, and at this point I am immune. I also called you out in the mayo thread when you gaslight even more intensely. I think you realized this and that's why you shut the fuck up.
I'm not even sure if you do this insane bad faith discussion on purpose. It's super toxic.
No.12451
.>>12449
More nanny revisionism
No.12452
>>12448So you don’t have an example still
No.12453
>>12410>Not even in Bolivia do they have 100% election turnout.Sure but if its like 1% turnout then its not even a fucking democracy, its just a fucking friend group with governmental power
that is what your fucking congress was, at least the mods uphold a standard of professionalism and listen to the people that reach out to them
unlike you.
No.12454
>>12450You are on the anti poster union side? Correct? And your post was basically saying because I criticise from the left I am an enemy of the left, implying that I am not constructive.
I said in fact I am constructive, because I am suggesting a union.
A union doesn’t just have to be against an employer, it could also be ahasint a landlord, there are also debtors unions and community unions.
So yes, I am being constructive, and saying I am attacking you from the left without being constructive is not true. So either your post was directed at me or it wasn’t, and either you are pro union or you’re not, and don’t quote Vijay Prashad if you’re not
No.12455
>>12451oh sorry, I will let you go back to your several hundred PPH successful site with a vibrant community of for sure not schizophrenics and retards
No.12456
>>12453At the time 66 people was more than 10% of the board, and it was only a week old, and in every single thread I was harrassed by the mods, and they deleted things and so on, so no? Again, of course it didn’t get very big if they fucking deleted it you fucking moron.
Yes it’s very professional that they petttily delete stuff they don’t agree with
No.12457
gaslighting : trying to say unions are anti leftist.
Ask union leader morales ask union leader maduro. Pseuds
No.12458
>>12456"a week old" but you had talked about the dumb idea for upwards of two months, got a pinned thread for it, and endlessly promoted it on literally every thread to the point where people got pissed and asked the mods to delete it for constant off-topic derailing. I would know, I was one of the people who reported you for doing that.
No.12459
>>12454>I swear I am being constructive>I swear I didn't support the dollars coup>I swear I didn't support the watermelon coup>I swear I don't spam endlessly my gripes>I swear I've been constructive doing ?????? for the site>I swear that spamming my matrix group is constructive>I swear that bitching about my spam being deleted is constructiveSure wrecker, whatever you say.
You've done nothing but bitch and wreck. If you call that constructive, then I'll have to say you're the most constructive of them all.
>>12457More gaslighting.
You're implying I am anti-union.
Incredibly dishonest. I don't mean to LARP but this is the reason Lenin had to crack down on anti-socialist unions in the early USSR. Wrecker af.
No.12460
Sage, go wreck the MI5 or go join a factory and wreck that. Why do you have to wreck this site? (serious question)
No.12462
>>12461all the actual jannies left halfway now its just sage arguing with whoever he can find.
He's really coping if he thinks non jannies actually think this bullshit is good, if anything they fucking hate him more than the jannies considering they fucking ask for him to be permabanned in half the threads he shows up in. Him being associated with the other site's half the reason people hate it.
gorespam, raiding, and being assholes generally doesn't help the case either No.12472
>>12471>banning literally anyone for any reason is redditok ancap/libertarian. muh freeze peach right
No.12473
>>12472Yeah man that's exactly what is happening and this is totally not cope about your subreddit.
No.12474
6pm in the UK. guess sage is eating dinner but im sure he'll be back to shit up the thread even more tonight.
At least this is quasi containment for his energies. To all those debating him here and keeping his autism from spilling out on the rest of the site: thank you for your service
No.12475
>>12473what would not be "reddit" to you, then? you throw out these reddit accusations willy nilly
No.12476
>>12475>you throw out these reddit accusations willy nillythis. accusations of reddit are serious, and should be not thrown around lightly. if on the other hand there indeed is cause to call reddit, the matter should be thoroughly investigated, lest we truly do become reddit.
No.12478
>>12475>>12476Why don't you ask your larping moderation team who constantly bans for everything they personally deem unacceptable rather than trying to function of some kind of objective metric.
Or how about the avatar fags that influence their decision making?
No.12479
>>12478If you obsess so much about Bee, why don't you marry her?
No.12480
>>12478>Why don't you ask your larping moderation team who constantly bans for everything they personally deem unacceptable rather than trying to function of some kind of objective metric. Or how about the avatar fags that influence their decision making?i dont have the dramafag decoder ring, what the fuck are you even talking about
No.12484
>>12478honestly you lot are way more homogeneous than any avatarfags lmao
No.12488
SAGE AND BEE
SITTING IN A TREE
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No.12491
>>12487Didn't bee cry about the gore thread that mods were otherwise perfectly fine with and got the thread removed?
No.12492
>>12491i dont know but gorespam should be banned
No.12493
>>12492It's documented on leftychans /I/
And it wasn't spam it was spoilered and the mods knew about it a-priori. It's more like it was removed because they just didn't like it which it totally in line with what reddit would do and think and exactly why mods were (and still are) leaving. The jannies here are to far up their own ass to recognize that though.
No.12494
>>12493>make a bunch of posts about how you are going to raid with gore>raid with gore<get deleted cause they saw you a mile awaybravo retard
No.12495
Bee Derangement Syndrome and Pennyfag Derangement Syndrome and their consequences have been a disaster to leftypol
No.12496
>>12494>>12495Are you people delusional? Read what I posted.
No.12497
>>12496yeah yeah your plot was clever noooo the tyrant of the mods aaaa how I wish sage-kun would save us
the fuck do you want? a medal?
No.12498
>>12493>mods were (and still are) leavinguhhh… what? Mods are leaving? what the fuck are you talking about since the split no mods have left at all
No.12499
>ask for proof
>Provide proof
<Retort with an unfalsifiable claim
Everytime. Ogers need to take their meds
No.12502
>>12499what fucking proof? ive been reading through this whole thread and i havent seen one iota of fucking proof of jack shit except those /i/ posts showing the chodes planned the raid the site
No.12503
Reminder that Sage will gaslight the fuck out of a conversation. It is useless to engage in good faith.
No.12505
>>12502Yeah because your butthurt jannoids can't live with a thread that they personally disapprove of. Hence that this is just a reddit clone.
No.12506
>>12410>While sage was asking for the mods to have a vote on a union he was added to a room without any prior warning and left 10 minutes later<Sage!61KGLATVWAhahaha he's talking about himself in the third person now
Sage a MESS
Sage-fag, is the WEAKEST person on this board, by far
Sage is a WASTE, and everybody knows it!
He's SO weak, it's laughable…
Sage is a mess.
Sage is a waste…
Sage… is a mess…
Sage is a BIG FAT MISTAKE.
No.12507
>>12503That's really weird coming from oger jannies pretending to be anons to manufacture board consensus.
No.12508
>>12501Hit a nerve did I? Lol.
No.12510
>>12507How does one "pretend to be anon", comatoast. Please explain that logic to me.
No.12511
>>12503Inflamatory faggots like you should be called out for being feds immediately, nomatter the board
Dont mods have to use their tags while posting in meta? What happened to that rule?
No.12513
>>12511now they just samefag and push their shitty memes, the staff members left to run everything aren't the best at taking criticism
No.12514
>>12511Waiting for an answer whenever you wish to provide it.
No.12515
^ you have the wrong anon
>what? More than 1 person dislikes the direction if the site?
No.12517
>>12507>pretending to be anonymous on an anonymous imageboardand if they tripped all the trim you'd shit on them for being tripfags. really cant win.
P.S. anons hate you too sage
No.12521
>>12520Sage has logged in consistently for months to infrared's server where he is in a"cuck containment channel" and can only comment once every 16 hours. Like a well organized clerk, he would log in and post some shit about direct action. I find it ironic for him to point any fingers on haz shit.
No.12526
>>12521>BUH BUH BUH SAAAAGE!Who care
>>12522>significant minorityNo proof. They were asked to hand over who voted for it and declined.
No.12527
>unique ips
>34
I think we can all see who's samefagging here, right mods?
No.12533
>>12459>I swear I am being constructiveI am, by the standards of any historical leftist, unions are constructive, you on the other hand are a union breaker.
>I swear I didn't support the dollars coupI don't even know what this refers to
>I swear I didn't support the watermelon coupmy position throughout the entire thing was that mods should have vote to formalise a union, you can go back and look in the dms of like half the mods including ones currently in your .org team, i also posted it multiple times on the board and in chat. This is simply another smear you have concocted
>I swear I don't spam endlessly my gripesits funny how you are completely fine with literal spam, somebody posting on every thread i post in "stfu wrecker cuck" but call my legitimate complaints about the site and constructive attempt to give the users a voice, spam.
>I swear I've been constructive doing ?????? for the sitecreating a union which you destructively deleted.
>I swear that spamming my matrix group is constructivemuch more constructive than the destructive act of deleting it
>You've done nothing but bitch and wreck.you are bitching right now and wrecked the union and are currently doing so by speaking against it.
>You're implying I am anti-union. so are you pro union then? You concede we should have a union of posters.
> this is the reason Lenin had to crack down on anti-socialist unions in the early USSR.are you implying the formation of moderation you have is socialist therefore? In what way? Its a purely bourgeoise formation. Ultimate power lies with the owners, the cops are the only ones who can vote.
>>12460spamming "wrecker" what am i wrecking? Thought we weren't doing politics here, thought I needed to touch grass
>>12462> I speak for all posters when I simp jannies and ask for sage to be permabanned simply cannot handle my swag and are autistic as shit. Barely anybody uses the report function or asks people to be banned apart from retards like you.
>>12479such is the level of fbi.gov of jannyfags
>>12488and again
>>12503post an example lmao what follows is examples of me asking for an example of stuff i supposedly do and note in NOT ONE INSTANCE DO THE MODS ACTUALLY GIVE AN EXAMPLE:
>>12366>>12444>>12447>>12452>>12448>>12506lmao this is literally a deranged rant. Absolute loon
>>12517according to you
>>12520oh yeh i even forgot that part, they gave him an entire simping thread, a majority of them, and now deny they ever simped him. AND then accuse you of gaslighting when you say they were wrong about him, and that you never admit you are wrong and don't reflect. LMAO
No.12537
>>12534>>12536stfu wrecker cuck
No.12540
>>12524People who think channers are coping are just coping with being in the wrong side of history. Simple.
No.12544
>>12522Lmao, leftypol jannies are a literal police union.
Fascist organization.
No.12545
>>12542Actually coma changes his opinions every 5 minutes, he doesn't stand for anything.
No.12546
>>12545So he was both for and against it?
No.12550
>>12545>>12545>Why can't everyone just have a dogmatic set of beliefs like me and never change then under any circumstances. Exactly as dialectics should be.>>12549Better dead then fascist.
No.12553
>>12550>dialectics is when you change your mindI mean…….
>Better dead then fascist.Yet you harbor ingrates like the mexican nazbol.
No.12554
>>12470the only reason I still have this thread open is because this song is such a banger
No.12559
>>12558To having two shit sites
No.12560
>>12557No. Of course not.
They will receive nothing and they know it, it's why they are chimping out so hard.
No.12562
>>12559Actually leftypol is almost at pre split pph and we have already introduced many new features for the board. leftypol is doing well. leftychan is the dead site that is trying and failing to shit us up and drag us down with them.
No.12564
.>>12553
Yeah we should just ban who ever we want like reddit. Ofc.
Isn't the whole point (or was) of leftypol to be leftist politically incorrect? Cope harder fascist fuck.
No.12565
>>12562Tactfully dodging the decline in quality. Literally propped up by youtube drama and inter-board drama.
>we have already introduced many new features for the boardLike what? New rules for them to push their janny buttons over?
No.12572
>>12562All that PPH is people taking bait in /itg/ and /USApol/
No.12575
>reddit jannies saying the thread.
No.12577
>>12572implying there was ever a time from 2014 to now where leftypol wasn't kept afloat by bait taking
No.12579
>>12575You made a typo, it's "saging". You are spending nearly a day straight at this point whining about leftypol over the tor node. Is this how pathetic you are?
No.12580
>>12579>You made a spelling error.
<YOU'RE PATHETIC NOOOO!Kek.
No.12581
>>12579Also nice. Pointing out users are using the tor node. You gonna call people out by IP again jannies?
No.12583
>>12572A proud leftypol.org tradition
No.12587
>>12572>habbenings are badcope cope cope.
see:
>>12525 No.12590
>>12565>decline in quality>too much moddingtop zozzle
No.12591
>thread gets 3x longer since i last posted
>it's just sage shitting up the thread again
every time
No.12592
>>12591KEEP HIM CONTAINED uygha
No.12594
>>12527>I think we can all see who's samefagging hereits probably multiple people because its a conversation
No.12595
>>12588>from the jannies who banned the soyjack script >I bring you >a soyjack This is why I call you people insane. You are insane
>the users are just consumers No, without the users there would be no site at all. The users make the content, which is what people come here for.
>the jannies do it for free Exactly, they volunteer for their own reasons, they want to do it, this does not entitle them to anything at all. The users, who give the site it’s value, are the proletariat. In the most generous analysis, the mods are managers, (who would traditionally be excluded from unions, most willingly gave up their union position on becoming w manager, but would always go along with the union regardless) slightly less generous, they are cops, even less generous than that, they are petit bourg who own the board on mortgage from the BO.
Unless you actually think, like some of the mods claim, that they are the proletariat in this situation, the poor oppressed janitors. LOL.
A union makes sense, because the posters clearly need a way to voice their concerns, and this cannot be done in a place that the mods own, because as we have seen countless times, the mods cannot be trusted not to attempt to steer the conversation in their own interests.
On top of this, the jannies need a union, so they can have feedback that isn’t from muddied water. That way there will be less complaints.
>>12589I’ve already been over the .net jannies, they have all admitted to their part and apologised. Not one .org janny has done this. Further, yes there may have been a minority of jannies who weren’t Haz simps. It’s funny this is what you focus on instead of the majority who were. Actually hilarious spin.
No.12597
>>12533>my position throughout the entire thing was that mods should have vote to formalise a unionAnd why should we vote to give you some special gold star 'official union' position when you do nothing but wreck and shit everywhere?
Also, an official mod-approved union, wow sounds based and corporatist-pilled, I'm sure that will be worthwhile. Guess what, real union organisers don't ask for permission, they just do it, because they have balls unlike you.
No.12599
Sage just wants to be a Janny without being called one, because he can't take the ridicule. Sad!
No.12601
>>12595>Unless you actually think, like some of the mods claim, that they are the proletariat in this situation, the poor oppressed janitors. LOL. The users wouldn't be able to post without the site being built, coded, and hosted somewhere, and cleaned of spam from /pol/shit
No.12602
>>12599He wants to have a special hat that makes everyone respect him, but doesn't want to actually do any work
No.12606
>>12605>replying to me as anon when i post as anon means you're sage and also i'm not a janny you're a schizoConcierges sans médicaments
No.12608
>>12607Funny how literally no janny team did this until the current crop in the last year or so
No.12609
>>12607cute, I love this unironically, thank you schizo
No.12610
>>12605actually he is correct tho uwu
No.12612
>>12608how do you know there aren't jannies who are silent and not namefagging or posting much in /meta/ though?
No.12615
>>12597I made a union like you said… and you fucking deleted the threads holy shit. Really not doing much to show people you aren’t actually insane. The level of cope here is ludicrous. Do you actually read what you type?
>it’s your fault there is no union because we deleted the threads Really what the fuck is wrong with you.
>>12599Kek I take the ridicule all the time, I’m not the one who deletes entire threads when they get ridiculed, again, compelled insane, entirely divorced from reality.
No, I want representation as a user, for the users.
>>12600>muh not all jannies You operate as one. If you lost this vote and disagree a lot with your fellows I would ask yourself why that is. The fact is the jannies as a whole, a majority did simp Haz, did ban the soyjack script, did delete the union threads etc
>>12602>another baseless smear from child tier mods Actually I worked hard making threads, arguing with you guys, negotiating, getting agreements, and then you deleted the threads. Again, completely insane, not even close to reality
No.12616
>>12615sage be honest bro, are you an amphetamine user or just literally autistic? Because I cant see how someone could concentrate on making like half the posts on this thread lel
No.12617
>>12601Yes, the mods serve the cop function of cleaning up, and they already have a union, it rules the whole board. the BOurgiose pays for hosting etc. However, it is the posters who create the content, which is another job, and they have no representation. Why should only the cops have it?
No.12618
>>12616It’s really not very difficult the points the mods make are completely retarded and easily destroyed. I’m just a dedicated user
No.12619
>>12617are you saying those jannies activities have no value?
No.12620
>>12612They're fags too and all their attempts at transparency memes are pointless when they enable at least one faggot openly shilling
>>12614>make first meme ever to show the posters how awesome i am>42mb, 1280x720px>perfect.>nobody is giving me an excuse to use it>respond to random post with it>ebin win achieved No.12621
>>12615Sage is oppressed. living rent FREE SAGE
No.12623
>>12619No I’m saying they have the value of cops and they also already have their representation. Are you saying the posters have no value and shouldn’t have representation?
No.12624
>>12620did it actually make you this mad? lol
I thought it was hilarious and offbeat and your butthurt is like a tasteful dash of balsamic vinegar on top
No.12625
>>12621Not an argument, again, just insane puerile bullshit from jannies
No.12626
>>12624>I am proud of being a dishonest piece of shit Defo a narcissist
No.12627
>>12624You made it didn't you
No.12628
>>12627NTA, i did. Sage is seething hard here, he can't stand the reality warping sorcery of the evil jannguard
>>12626cope harder seething anglo
No.12629
>>12626who the hell are you talking to? lol
>>12627no
yes or no No.12630
>>12628No you just come across as completely unhinged
No.12631
>>12623Should the patrons of a mcdonalds be able to go into the kitchen and order the staff around and micromanage them on how to make fries?
No.12632
>>12631>should the cryptofascist institute of the restaurant exist?Uh, no?
No.12633
>>12630The biggest schizo on 2 imageboards is calling me unhinged? I really don't fucking care
No.12634
>>12631The patrons of McDonald’s don’t make the food. We posters do make the food, the content, which is why people come here. It’s funny you’re implying it without saying it you think the jannies are the proles in this situation.
No.12637
>>12631Also the accusation of micromanagement is hilarious from mods who literally want control over every little conversation that goes on here
No.12638
>>12636>calling every anon schizoSo everyone's crazy but you? sounds like psych ward material
No.12639
>>12634no rulezzzz no janniezzzz
onlyi mi nujanniiiiii oficil leftypl onion leder
No.12640
>>12634Is having a conversation content to you? by that logic the phone company should pay the people making calls
No.12641
>>12633>muh skitzo This is literally all you’ve got it’s pathetic as always. The fact is I’m about 130 times as stable as you, an insane power hungry image board janny who blames the thread maker for the threads getting deleted, that he himself deleted
No.12642
But this is what you do when you lose an argument, start throwing around childish and insane comments. Exactly like a narcissist does when cornered
No.12644
>>12642You only think you won literally
any argument here because you ignore all evidence to the contrary and pretend shit happened that didn't
No.12645
>>12638>arguing with yourselfBig time schizo vibes m8, take your meds yeah?
No.12648
>>12646This anon has been arguing with himself for hours, what a schizo
No.12649
>>12647the proof is literally this whole fucking thread
>>12648shut up sage
No.12651
>>12640Yes because my phone conversations are posted on the internet for everyone to see it’s exactly the same… . Cope harder Come out and say you think the jannies are the workers in the situation
>>12644You haven’t posted a single piece of evidence, no janny or janny simp has, as pointed out above with links to posts. You are now pretending to be regarded as a coping mechanism in the hope everyone won’t see you were always being retarded.
No.12652
>>12649>everyone I don’t like is sage Pretty skitzo mate
No.12655
>>12654Have jannies gaslit themselves with their shilling into thinking everyone that thinks they're faggots is some sort of outside agitator boogeyman?
No.12657
>>12656I ain't fucking with you, look at this
meta has nearly ten times the PPH of their entire site
No.12658
Remember when somebody was tslik about the jannies “air of professionalism”
KEK
No.12660
>>12657>/meta/ has 11x more pph than /siberia/Good job jannies you really improved /b/!
No.12661
>designing transparency as a default
LOL what a joke
No.12663
Reminder provoking Sage is praxis.
No.12664
>>12662I know that knowing how imageboards work or being a leftist aren't necessary to be a janny here but I wasn't talking to you faggot
No.12666
>>12665Okay so is there a single reason why you're responding to me or are you just stupid?
No.12668
>>12667everything gone tbh
No.12670
>>12666it's amusing how obsessive and schizo you are
No.12671
>>12669Noooo not the heckin' peepeehaitcherinos!
No.12674
So sage, let me get this straight. if we can TLDR your whole thesis its that the entire site, all the anons are brainwashed by a clique of hipster liberal probably unemployed NEETs, controlled by Caballo, who are also endowed with reality warping sorcerous powers of brainwashing and narrative making, and that by modding the site in a way you don't like, they are oppressing the users, and the fact that almost none of them seem to care, agree with you, or leave as a result, is just proof of their brainwashedness, and instead of just leaving like a normal well adjusted person would, you decide to spend hours and hours each day arguing with them and a bunch of randos in this thread like some sort of deranged amphetamine addict with a grudge.
>>12349 They ALL stanned haz - false, several dissented, for example this OP was made by a janny: >>3374
>>12341 They’re ALL hipsters/liberals/neets - irrelevant ad hominems
>>12361 They deleted the union thread (wasn’t around for this, but who fucking cares)
I just re-read the thread to be sure, not fun, but basically the rest of it is you arguing with jannies and rando anons and calling them insane, pseuds, etc. and a bunch of other names and acting offended and that you’re getting ‘smeared’ when people say the same to you. I think schizo is not an inaccurate term here its essentially a conspiracy-schizo mentality but instead of getting applied to something real its a group of mods on an imageboard. Basically you think unless the evidence is presented to YOU personally it doesn’t exist. That the job of the jannies is to cater to YOU personally and make you happy and that you’re somehow a standin for every other user even though plenty disagree with you, you just call them names. This whole thread is one giant monument to why user democracy can’t work, because people like you will be the ones who’s voices are represented. Essentially you have all the symptoms of classic narcissistic personality disorder. You expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations.
Additional NPD Symptoms:
Be envious of others
>bunch of spoiled petty little hipster libs<yuppies with no stake in the system other than what their suburban middle class life>NEET and still be rich and mobile because of mommy and daddy<Must be nice living off your parentsHave an exaggerated sense of self-importance, Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration, Exaggerate achievements and talents, Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it, Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
<Oh and also, this is my fucking board. I have been here longer than most of the mods save one or two. You entitled reddioit faggots joined up late, decided you should become mods and shape the thing in your image, then fucking ruined it, and now you want to turn it into a lib/normie shithole which is exactly the opposite of why it existed in the first place. You bang on about muh quality this. None of you are well read, not one. You are psueds. You bang on about muh theory, there literally isn’t a single theory thread anywhere near the top of the catalogue. What you fsggots bring is nothing but endless eceleberry, but only your specific ones of your choosing. It’s a fucking a single one of you would even consider yourself intelligent, or even left wing. You are a bunch of spoiled petty little hipster libs, and you have ruined another thing, like you jobless middle class babies always do. Have you considered people who actually work and actually have a stake in the left and aren’t just some internet NEET might actually want to use this board, not just to endlessly waste their sad pathetic life like you mods do, but because they actually need the left, but oh no you need a place to feel powerful and meaningful because you are a fucking loser, so you want to Taylor conversations you aren’t even involved in because you just can’t stand other people having a discussion. You make me sick. I hope you fucking dieBelieve they are superior
>The fact is I’m about 130 times as stable as you>You haven’t posted a single piece of evidence, no janny or janny simp has, as pointed out above with links to posts. You are now pretending to be regarded as a coping mechanism in the hope everyone won’t see you were always being retarded.<So, so retarded. But then, these are the people who simped Haz so..>and interpreting them through your own lens, which is a retarded oneTake advantage of others to get what they want
(On raiding the site and shitting it up):
<needs must, I'm sure if you hadn't done the things you have done it wouldn't take such drastic measures.Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people
see: literally this entire fucking thread No.12678
>>12674>a bunch of stuff I never said Only the mods are hipster spoilt brats actually.
>they ALL stanned Haz Literally highlighting a word that I didn’t say in the post you then quoted proving concretely I did not say it. We literally just went over this, a majority of you did, the fact some didn’t does not change that. Again, completely insane
>ad hominems >he says, after posting skitzo over and over again for hundreds of posts >I wasn’t around when the union thread was deleted Probably a lie given your posting style, you are probably pasq
>who cares if the union the thread was deleted It stops a union from happening. Kek. Again, completely insane.
>everything after this point Complete projection.
I see you saged the thread after posting as well lmao, janny you need medicine fast
No.12679
>>12674>words words wordsHoly shit touch grass
No.12680
>>12678>a bunch of shit i never said>direct greentext quotes from this exact thread anyone can CTRL+Fwhat did he mean by this?
No.12681
>>12680At no point have I talked about the posters unless it’s about them getting representation, I have called the mods hipsters yes, but they aren’t posters like normal posters they are cops. Quote me bitch
No.12682
>>12678When presented with analysis completely and utterly destroying his points and accurately psychoanalyzing him to boot, sage gives the most predictable answer ever.
>I'M NOT CRAZY, YOU'RE CRAZY. I'M RUBBER, YOU'RE GLUE, WHATEVER YOU SAY BOUNCE OFF ME AND STICKS TO YOU.I really do wonder if sage is some incredibly advanced NSA GPT bot sent to undermine the online left or something.
If so 5/10, you must have overtuned some parameters, but good enough to cause drama Not subtle enough to bait most normie posters other than the utter autists here who spent like 200 posts replying to him/it after it was clear he just repeats the same shit over and over.
OTOH if he's an actual person/schizo, I salute their service in keeping him contained here this long instead of shitting up siberia/leftypol with his crap as usual. Thank you for your service.
No.12683
>>12682Quote me bitch
No projecto dysfunctile erecto
No.12684
>>12682>sage is a bot sent to undermine the left. On your side there are two posters who use furry avatars, bee and caballo. Wikileaks revealed that the NSA use furry avatars online.
I am on the pro socialist union side, you are on the anti socialist union side. I am therefore left wing and you are simply not.
No.12686
>>12685t. Leftychan cross poster
No.12687
>>12686T.janny (skitzo and projecting)
No.12695
>>12685cringe leftychanner circlejerk
No.12704
>>12702>everyone who thinks i suck is a jannyyou fuckers spam the board with analspam and gore and expect people will like you? wow. yeah, i'm sure that will totally win people over and make you not seem like barely reformed seething /pol/acks.
You say you hate the jannys only, so I guess the users are just collateral damage in your quest to destroy leftypol for… its own good?
No.12706
>>12678>Literally highlighting a word that I didn’t say in the post you then quoted proving concretely I did not say it. We literally just went over this, a majority of you did, the fact some didn’t does not change that. you literally said there's no evidence any jannies not on .net disagreed with the haz shit. The cited post is from a current .org janny. Therefore it does disprove what you said
No.12716
>>12704>you fuckers spam the board with analspam and gore and expect people will like you?no I don't.
Simply does not happen.
>You say you hate the jannys only,well, i hate simps like you too.
>>12706quote me you stupid retard
>>12708I posted proof though, from wikileaks no less, you are simply coping
No.12718
>>12717Show me one single piece of evidence you have posted. On the other hand you asked me for one example of mods not having jobs and I gave it
No.12719
>>12716>no I don't. >Simply does not happen. >>12718oh it doesnt happen does it? screencap
(edited slightly for pii)proofs of literal analspam by leftychanners.
No.12720
>>12718need more proof? here's them
publically admitting to analspam on their /i/ board
im sure the jannies have more actual caps since ive seen many thread show up before getting yeeted
No.12721
>>12526in this post you say:
>No proof. They were asked to hand over who voted for it and declined.yet in multiple posts >>3374 was references as being made by a dissenting janny. This is literal proof still on the board disproving this
No.12722
>>12716>I posted proof though, from wikileaks no less, you are simply coping>cia uses furry avatars therefore every furry is ciahaving some trouble reasoning there? must be crashing off adderall and the brainfogs setting in. Go drink some water and sleep uyghur
No.12723
>>12719Oh I see that’s proof I did that is it.
>>12720Still not proof of me doing anything, some posts on an anon board which aren’t me
>>12721That is literally not my post you skitzo
>>12722Which is much more proof of mods being feds then you have ever given of me being a fed. Cope, seethe, etc
No.12725
>>12723>That is literally not my post you skitzo it sounded like you. maybe you should namefag every post then, instead of posting like an anon like now and people wont misattribute shit to you. nevertheless i still think you're lying, and that actually is you
No.12726
>>12723>Oh I see that’s proof I did that is it. <moving the goalposts this hardyou said
>you fuckers spam the board with analspam and gore and expect people will like you?<no I don't. <Simply does not happen. first of all misinterpreting you as being you singular rather that referring to all leftychan chodes (narcissistic), second of all saying "simply does not happen" implying no one does it. Now you pretend like it was just referring to only you not your whole clique
No.12727
>>12724How many memes have you made now? Obsessed
>>12725>it sounded like you Obsessed skitzo
>>12726Blah blah blah skitzo
No.12729
>>12727>How many memes have you made now? Obsessed hit a nerve?
No.12730
>>12727>I'M NOT SCHIZO, YOU'RE SCHIZOit's caught in a logic loop!
No.12731
>>12729I believe it is me who has hit one of your nerves so hard you opened photoshop on more than one occasion
No.12732
>>12731>he's making memes! that means I'm right!cope.exe
No.12733
>>12732Please make more it’s like having a fan club
No.12739
>>12736Have a feeling these are the barely reforming seething /pol/acks who hang out in "leftypol"-adjacent fbi.govs with server ranks like "CEO of hatred of uyghurs" and talk in nasal toned american accents because they're a edgy suburban 17 year old from ohio who was a nazi a year ago.
No.12740
>>12738
uh, source?
No.12742
>>12741
so you're just making shit up
No.12753
>>12749isn't their IP count at like 30?
No.12758
>>12753IP count is an unreliable measure. Dynamic IPs change regularly. Do you honestly think they had over 200 unique posters last week?
No.12759
how is saged thread at the top of the catalog did someone unsage? or is vichan fucking up
No.12774
>mods don’t like conspiracy threads
>write them off as skitzo
>realise they are some of the most popular threads on the board
>turn a specific 9/11 thread into a conspiracy general
Who wanted this? Well… nobody of course. Mods just can’t keep their busy body noses out of things they are too lazy to look into
No.12775
>>12739>muhhh Nazis I am more left wing than your entire Janny team and have done more for the left than all of them. Cope lib and seethe
No.12776
>>12774pretty sure what was said was
>conspiracy theories without an element of institutional or class analysis is anti Marxist and can lead to reactionary conclusions>>12775lel,
>>12724 looks like sagebot hit the second to last part of his chat loop
No.12778
>>12776>conspiracies Okay and, they do have in that thread so what is your point
>sagebot It’s a fact. Simple. What has any janny ever done? Nothing, is what.
Jannybot
>make an unpopular decision >get abuse for it >claim it was a popular decision >give no proof >claim it wasn’t your fault it was the other jannies >okay change it then >pretend it never happened in the first place >make up a completely fictional narrative >you and janny buddies samefag and smear whoever crits you >convince yourself of your own bullshit >get shown proof >start getting angry, say you are proud of the toxic things you have done and so on >pull it back and deny you ever did them >say you were just trolling Repeat forever
No.12779
>>12776Also give any evidence at all I am far right.
You have a janny that doesn’t believe in a United ireland. This is a far right opinion
No.12780
>>12778>What has any janny ever done? Nothing, is what. Enjoy your IB smeared with child porn. Look at unadministrated imageboards for examples. It gets posted almost daily. It's an industry.
Oh and we're also the boogieman of the largest imageboard who think we're attacking them, you can also enjoy /pol/ goreposters and bad faith da joos spam.
No.12781
You are all anti union, this is a far right belief
No.12782
>>12780Was this supposed to be in response to something I said?
No.12783
>>12782Probability of this supposed poster being a bot went way up just now (read your own post)
No.12784
>>12783I saw a bunch of generic claims not linked to anything I said, the supposed poster who is in fact probably a janny not didn’t even quote specifically what they were responding to. Just a random quote and then random words unrelated. Very bot like
No.12785
>>12784How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
No.12787
The next thing I say to you will be true. The last thing I said was false.
No.12788
>>12787Looks like the janny bot had reverted to
> say you were jus trolling Lol
No.12790
>>12778>I'm not a bot, you're a bot!also part of :
>>12724 No.12791
>>12790looks like the agent managing sagebot hit the reverse button and went to an earlier stage, or the person who made the meme needs to make more inner cycles
No.12793
>>12790>no I’m not a bot you are a bot >>12789>you are glue I am rubber >>12791>looks like janny bot has reverted to earlier cycles >>12792Right on time
only I have the proofs, and you are all cringe jannoids, still no proof I’m far right from the union buster Pinkerton jannoids No.12795
>>12793ok mental 8 year old or bot, just keep parroting back the literal same shit
No.12796
>>12793>still seething about the unionuh, what the fuck is wrong with the current user congress? doesn't have enough of your clique in it?
No.12802
>>12793> only I have the proofsis this Qanon?
No.12803
>>12794Mental deficient magnificent
>>12795Oh.. you think.. that’s childish and inane just.. repeating things I’ve said to you back.
seek help >>12796There is full board democracy there, there is none here.
>Um why do you need a socialist chile when you have Cuba for this reason we can’t allow a union CIA mods evertime
remember the furry faces revealed by wikileaks to be fed faces >>12797Oh look the janny is reverting to janny programing number 4
>give no proof Imagine thinking asking for proof to back up the interlocutors baseless statements is worse than being the one with no proof kek.
>>12802No qanon is the part where you blindly follow a reactionary cult with zero proof but maximum group think Brian worms I.e the janny cult
No.12804
>>12803Mine's way better. I win.
No.12806
>>12805>omg really ? >I am shocked Help, get it
No.12808
>still no comment on the fact that being a union buster is an explicitly fascist activity
No.12809
>jannies don’t care about unions because they don’t have jobs or pay rent
No.12811
>>12808The fact that you think organizing a workplace is even remotely comparable to forming a clique of schizos on a Mongolian basketweaving forum is a testament to your insanity. No one is making money off this, what do you think the jannies are extracting surplus value from this and using it to profit? They’re volunteers. This isn’t Facebook
No.12812
>>12809>MUH NEETS MUH NEETS MUH NEEEEEETS! NEETS are really living in your head rent free huh
No.12816
>>12811No we don’t get money, but we do get value. Use value. You don’t extract it, but you make it less valuable, because you make it more shit.
No.12817
>>12812Hit a nerve I see NEET
No.12818
>>12817hey sage, I'm an unemployed guy in my 30s going to a coffee shop to spend my rich dad's money and write a novel. I would tell you about these indie bands I know, but they're too cool for you. Talking shit about NEETs? too mainstream for me tbh dude.
Triggered?
No.12819
>>12816>this level of theoryletry and cope>MUH FREEZE PEACH MUH FREEZE PEACH HELP HELP IM BEING OPPRESSED!yeah just allow cp like leftychan
No.12820
>>12818Cringe
>>12819>implying any mod has ever read anything You are literally all completely stupid
Leftychan doesn’t allow cp and we literally voted to ban CP apology
democratically but nice smear retard. You have a literal furry on your team which is literally the same thing
No.12821
>>12820>pedo is the same thing as furry>this level of retardedness and copeI hope you're not some pol tier retard who thinks pedophilia and fetishes are the same because they're both "Degeneracy" or something. I hate to hear your opinion on LGBTs
No.12822
>>12820*inhales from blunt*. Yeah dude, let me tell you about union pool. Great place. Actually rivals anything in williamsburg back in '11. Did I see you at occupy wall street? I was there you know. That's around the time my dad sold a building so I could work on my google glass app.
After that I created an app which recommended the best Foster the people and tame impala songs for every coffeeshop in new york and london.
Thought about getting back into the startup game. Ruby on Rails isn't dead man, it's just waiting for a comeback like Skrillex.
*inhales from blunt again* You look stressed bro, why don't you just ask your parents for rent money? That's what I do.
Be right back, gonna go work on my article about how Obama should have had a third term.
No.12823
>>12820which one is it sage, muh freeze speech or democratic rules?
No.12824
>>12821Furry = bestiality = just as bad
I am pro lgbt, being a furry is however degenerate
>>12822Still cringe
>>12823It’s democratic rules as I’ve have consistently said over and over.
I notice you have immediately dropped the “the leftychan allows pedo shit smear oh wow yet another baseless mod claim with no evidence easily debunked. Who would have thunk it from a bunch of furry narcissists
No.12826
>>12824>baselessCaps from leftychan proving that would shit up this board as well. Don't deny whats been publically seen
No.12828
>>12825It makes the union of egoists look bad to have a furry involved and this has less influence. My conscious ego says get rid of it therefore.
>barely reformed crypto polack You are a not reformed lib and extremely “Anglo” if this is what you think. Ask your buddy Haz what he thinks about furries.
>>12826>nanny reverts to programming yet again Kek, one day a janny will give evidence and the chain reaction will cause the destruction of the space time continuum. It’s simply not physically possible for them to do it.
>>12827>laughing at your own joke which nobody else picks up on, for 3 whole posts Embarrassing
No.12829
>>12828>IM NOT SEETHING, IM NOT SEETHING, SHUT UP LIBERAL!do you have literally any fucking point that isn't an adhom?
No.12830
>>12829>you’re a polack >you’re a bot >stop ad homingClassic mod self awareness can’t get better than that pure mod autism
No.12832
>>12830play stupid games win stupid prizes. Act like a bot and you'll be treated like one. When presented with evidence you act like its a lie or just ignore it.
No.12833
>>12830let me get this straight, you think jannies are bad because they moderate in a way you don't like? is that the basis of it? leaving out the union BS what exactly, specifically, do you not like about it? Like a specific example of a thread or post that got yeeted that you disagreed with?
No.12835
>>12831Mods idea of refutation = only a majority of mods didn’t simp haz, a minority didnt.
Kek. Absolute fucking KEK
>>12832There is no one piece of evidence in this thread that a mod has posted and anybody reading it can see that lmao
seek help nut job >>12833Turning the 9/11 thread into a conspiracy general instead of letting it stand alone is a good example. It was by far and away one of the best recent threads, sources, effort posts, no real sectarian shit flinging, idpol or anything. Educational basically. But it was turned into a general. Why? Because it’s not to the mods taste is why.
No.12836
>>12833I also don’t like the fact they censor all mention of the other board, I could really go on all day, they have a Reddit style of modding why makes the place unappealing to none Lib types
No.12839
>>12835>Mods idea of refutation = only a majority of mods didn’t simp haz, a minority didnt. uh yeah because you're acting like its a hivemind and that if one does something they all agree.
>Turning the 9/11 thread into a conspiracy general instead of letting it stand alone is a good example. It was by far and away one of the best recent threads, sources, effort posts, no real sectarian shit flinging, idpol or anything. Educational basically. But it was turned into a general. Why? Because it’s not to the mods taste is why.Ok but what would a user union based form of governance do different in this situation. And you have no guarantee that if users voted on this the decision would come out any different. It's like you're acting like the mods decision is never popular and your opinion is always the one the other users would agree with when in reality thats far from the case or at least not the case a lot of the time, and the users would seem to agree as they are staying here not flocking to leftychan.
By "the users" I kind of feel like you mean you and your small clique/friend group of disgruntled users, which isn't the majority. You are constantly conflating this, and acting like somehow your person opinion and that of your clique is the majority when its not.
>>12836>I also don’t like the fact they censor all mention of the other board>they have a Reddit style of modding why makes the place unappealing to none Lib typespulling out the greatest hits I see. You really feel entitled to force the users here to leftychan? If there's ever a peace deal and a webring or w/e I guess we will find out whether or not thats true, and the wordfilter is the only thing stopping the floodgates of 300 users to migrate.
But I'm sure in the case that doesn't happen and shit stays relatively the same you'll have yet another excuse for how le Caballo/Pasquale or whoever are brainwashing the users into staying.
and what do you mean by reddit? be specific? Do you want people to be able to spam troon/YWNBAW/etc. on the board? Are you just opposed to modding in general? Because most users want SOME modding, more than the bare minimum of deleting CP/etc. That's what you don't get. Its not some evil conspiracy keeping the users here, they actually want moderation of the so-called "reddit" style.
You basically seem to be saying if the users got a choice they'd vote for totally laissez faire style. That would largely drive away even more quality posters and result in a /pol/ 2.0 shithole which it what it seems that you want. Just admit when you say users you don't mean all the users, you mean your clique and people who think like it and the users who dont agree you want gone.
The end result of this process already exists, and it's what leftychan is. Even if the mods don't filter the site, it would be same or +/- 5 unique users. I 100% guarantee that and believe it in my soul.
No.12840
>>12839OTOH, if they keep on with the deleting of leftychode spam, this site will actually not degenerate and maybe even improve. In short, there's no one here left that you actually want anyway and since I feel like you know that, im forced to believe you just want to shit up the site out of spite, or to get the remaining 5 users who both haven't heard of leftychan and also want to be able to post the uyghurword
No.12842
TLDR you prioritize preserving "chan culture" aka aping /pol/ like the aforementioned seething dis.cord teenfags rather than actually growing the site. You can scream reddit reddit reddit all day when in fact your preferred lassiez faire form of government would result in a loss of users and ultimately a dead site filled with the same 30 people. Leftychan as it exists currently is the end product of what you actually want.
You've still never dealt with the criticism that users have vooted with their feet, other than muh wordfilter muh caballos brainwashing, which are total cope takes, as stated before they all know the domain anyway from going there for a whole week.
If you have even a shred of intellectual honesty, which, based on your behaviour in this thread you don't, you would admit this.
No.12844
>>12774I didn't even know they did this because it simply deleted the 9/11 thread from my threadwatcher.
Thanks jannies!
No.12845
>>12803>There is full board democracy there, there is none here. 1) then go there
2) i don't want a democracy if you get to vote
No.12847
>>12844tbf it was almost to the bumplimit anyway so if it hadn't been turned cyclical it would have been locked anyway
No.12893
Hilarious that pedophilic furfags are pretending an IP equates to a user.
No.12908
>>12893>pedphilicoh so now thats getting added to the conspiracy? You're reaching qanon levels of schizo
No.12920
>>12839>>12840>>12842First all, write more please lmao
second of all:
>uh yeah because you're acting like its a hivemind and that if one does something they all agree.No, the majority did. You are trying to claim the minority opinion is more significant than the majority one. Serious coping strategy.
>Ok but what would a user union based form of governance do different in this situation.Not up to me.
>And you have no guarantee that if users voted on this the decision would come out any different.That is correct. I am fully aware democracy may not go my way.
>It's like you're acting like the mods decision is never popularfrom what I see many of them aren't, there are a few examples, for instance, banning all talk of haz, that clearly weren't, or the split, which there was polling on. Now, polls can be unreliable of course, but in this instance, it correlated with what everyone in chat and on the board was saying.
>and your opinion is always the one the other users would agree withwhere have i said this
>when in reality thats far from the case or at least not the case a lot of the timethis is precisely my problem, there is really no way to say either way. This is precise problem I mean to address, by giving the posters the space to discuss things, in a way which cannot be subverted by jannoids, or other influences, every model I have laid out, has been to this end. No, i don't think every decision and opinon will go my way, that would be ludicrous, however, i do think we should at least have a mechanism to find out. Which is the specific purpose of a union. Nowhere by the way, have I said everyone on the board agrees with me, you cannot provide evidence of this, because it does not exist.
Further, you often do things which literally no user has asked for, certainly not a large number of users, such as with the conspiracy general. This was basically only mods who wanted this. As with most things that actually happen, its just a mod idea
>and the users would seem to agree as they are staying here not flocking to leftychan.You blocked all mention of leftychan, even before word filtering it, deleting every mention of it and viciously smearing the users and lying about it, which you have done in this thread right now, like saying it allows child porn which is just nonesense.
>By "the users" I kind of feel like you mean you and your small clique1) I don't have a clique. You keep saying i'm part of some clique, name the users in that clique. You never can. There is simply some people who share some views about the board with me. Lets take coma for instance, he is my clique you think? When you, a mod, know fine well I have argued with him probably just as much you about this board. Same with Zul, Zero, hardly a clique at all. We don't even have the same political beliefs. I don't send them pms about anything board related. In fact, the closest I would have to consider a friend among mods
rip is on your staff.
2)you're a fucking mod, and you have a literal clique, who run the board, you don't get to use the word clique
3)you only started saying i have a clique after i and other users pointed out the board was run by a clique, its projection
4) Its completely insane you sit as part of a mod team which is literally accountable to nobody and you are trying to tell me that would be more representative than a body of users
> which isn't the majority.your mod team are not the majority
>You are constantly conflating thisNo i'm not, I'm simply saying that we should have a place to discern what the majority think.
> and that of your clique is the majority when its not.HOW. DO. YOU. KNOW. There is literally no way of telling. You jannies always say "by looking at posts" and yet you also admit that you also post, and include your own opinions, it is also you who does the ultimate analysis of what a post means, and even then, the ultimate decision of what to do with that info is up to you.
So you think your opinions are the majority opinions? Prove it. If you are so concerned with it really being a majority opinion, why won't you allow a body to emerge to discern that?
>You really feel entitled to force the users here to leftychan?nowhere have i said that. You really feel you are entitled to block all mention of leftychan? To split the board? To delete posts in general and censor opinions in general? You, unelected, unchosen, self appointed mod? Why?
I am saying the users are entitled to make a choice, and are entitled to form a body in order to discuss that choice and other choices, you are the one who is saying you are entitled to stand in the way of that. I would like you to explain why.
>and the wordfilter is the only thing stopping the floodgates of 300 users to migrate.an exageration, I think a significant portion of users would probably cross post though, which would actually benefit both communities. I believe in peaceful coexistence, so we can support each other, and possibly develop other links, and expand the boards reach in general. This has always and consistently been my view, but any and all attempts to organise the board for such purposes have been consistently shut down by an inward facing, short sighted, micro managing mod team who has nothing but contempt for the user base.
>But I'm sure in the case that doesn't happen and shit stays relatively the same you'll have yet another excuse for how le Caballo/Pasquale or whoever are brainwashing the users into staying.only one way to find out big guy
>and what do you mean by reddit? be specific?I mean a highly moderated board where the tendency if for ideological pruning rather than to allow conversation to flow and for ideas to be explored. Conspiracy thread is case in point, on all levels, while you are acquiescing to the clear demand for the allowal of conspiracy threads,
which by the way, have been consistently some of the most popular threads on the board, you will rememebr back on bunker i had to fight for the conspiracy thread you jam them all into a general, which gets in the way of more specific conversations about each one. Ludicrous considering the original subject was 9/11, probably one of the most significant events in recent history, but the mods on high deign it not something worth discussion. This is a redditoid mentality.
>Do you want people to be able to spamno.
>Are you just opposed to modding in general? no. Been through this a million times. See the question previously asked where they said "which is it free speech or demoratic rules" and i said "democratic rules" in no instance have i said their should be no modding. None.
>Because most users want SOME modding,sure they do, but what exact level? Who knows, there is no place where the users can properly express these things.
>That's what you don't get. Its not some evil conspiracy keeping the users here, they actually want moderation of the so-called "reddit" style. prove it.
>You basically seem to be saying if the users got a choice they'd vote for totally laissez faire style.you throw in these words "totally" all the time, which is just putting them directly in my mouth. No, i think given the choice the users would allow more topics to be discussed.
Might I ask you a question, of the 500 or so users on the board, how many use the report function? How many consistently ask certain topics to be banned? Most of the users, or a handful of users? Provide evidence.
> That would largely drive away even more quality postersbased on what? Nothing at all. Zero, zip. It is not historically accurate, the board was at it peaks in terms of numbers and quality before OLDBO purges on 8chan. Why does low numbers equate to quality? Because its only the most dedicated users? What? Give me even a logical reason, not a data driven one why this would be the case? Its an inherently elitist belief, completely counter to mass politics. You want a boring conversation with a handful of people who all think the same shit. What is the point, its a complete circle jerk. It also assumes that that handful of people think anything of merit, which is a big assumption, extremely bold. What qualifies the mods and their opinions as people who can discern quality? Absolutely nothing is what. Literally there is nothing.
> and result in a /pol/ 2.0 shitholeold leftypol was not /pol/ 2.0 and was never even close.
>Just admit when you say users you don't mean all the usersI think all users should have the oppurtunity to discuss their opinions in a poster owned room whatever they may be.
>you mean your clique and people who think like itYou are the one with the clique janny, you even do positive emoji reacts to all each others posts.
> and the users who dont agree you want gone.says the jannies who delete and ban all the users they don't agree with.
Couldn't make it up.
>The end result of this process already exists, and it's what leftychan is.>shoot baby in cradle>why didn't it grow to be a big strong boi
>Even if the mods don't filter the site, it would be same or +/- 5 unique users.what difference does it make to you?
>I 100% guarantee that and believe it in my soul.guess we will just have to trust your soul, the only piece of evidence given by a janny in this thread
No.12921
>>12840>im forced to believe you just want to shit up the site out of spite,give me one good reason you deleted any mention of leftychan and word filtered the URL that wasn't pure spite
>>12842>rather than actually growing the site.yes im sure mass bans and deletions will grow the site, im sure alienating large amounts of the userbase of the site will grow the site.
> Leftychan as it exists currently is the end product of what you actually want. its existed for like a month and you deleted all mention of it lmao. You won't actually admit that though because you are insane.
>You've still never dealt with the criticism that users have vooted with their feet, yes i have several times, you ignoring it entirely does not change that so here it again for the millionth time
you deleted all mention of the site, even before you word filtered it, and you smear the site and its users and continue to do so even right up until this post, fucking hilarious you people talk about honesty in any way No.12922
also if you truly think not using the word filter and allowing people to talk about the site would mean nobody goes there, put your money where your mouth is, give it a try, lets see.
No.12926
>>12920>banning all talk of hazso are the mods bad for being pro haz or anti haz make up your mind
>by giving the posters the space to discuss things, in a way which cannot be subverted by jannoids, or other influenceliterally impossible since the jannies are also users. Are you saying the mods need to capcode literally everywhere? because that would be annoying to alot of people
>however, i do think we should at least have a mechanism to find out. Which is the specific purpose of a union.ok an my problem is that is that it needs to be truly representative of the userbase not just your clique who has taken it upon themselves to do this shit, while 90% of the users don't participate but would be mad if decisions were actually made according to your way. You literally see this in alot of meta posts and other places where users frequently complain to stop doing democracy larp and just STFU and delete spam. inb4 its jannies in disguise. I would be for user democracy if it could actually guarantee a representative sample not just your friend group. Replacing a tyranny of jannies with a tyranny of a slightly larger group of schizoid teenfags.
>like saying it allows child porn which is just nonesense. did people say that? I think they implied its been raided by CP which was not cleaned up, or at least cleaned very fast, not that it allows CP.
>I don't have a clique. You keep saying i'm part of some clique, name the users in that clique. You never can. There is simply some people who share some views about the board with me. Lets take coma for instance, he is my clique you think? When you, a mod, know fine well I have argued with him probably just as much you about this board. Same with Zul, Zero, hardly a clique at all. We don't even have the same political beliefs. I don't send them pms about anything board related. In fact, the closest I would have to consider a friend among mods rip is on your staff.you say the mods are a clique yet every defense you use of your group, is also a defense of the mods. The mods don't all share the same political beliefs, and the mods also argue with each other.
>your mod team are not the majorityneither is your group.
>No i'm not, I'm simply saying that we should have a place to discern what the majority think. only if its a real majority and not a self selected group of one issue hyperusers who if their suggestions were implemented, would drive away the vast majority of grillers, which your group doesn't care about because it only cares about its own ideas and considered 90% of the users to be reddit/fbi.gov tier and doesn't care if they leave. Admit this isn't just a "war against muh jannies for the oppressed users" i've seen the gloating on /i/, where they literally say this shit about most users here being unworthy disco-rdfags.
>sure they do, but what exact level? Who knows, there is no place where the users can properly express these things. yeah its called make a post on /meta/ which the jannies will read. Feedback is not the same as making yet another bureaucratic layer of matrix larpers.
>Might I ask you a question, of the 500 or so users on the board, how many use the report function? How many consistently ask certain topics to be banned? Most of the users, or a handful of users? Provide evidence. you know there's no way for anyone to know that but I'm sure its a hellof alot more than your clique.
>the board was at it peaks in terms of numbers and quality before OLDBO purges on 8chan>old leftypol was not /pol/ 2.0 and was never even close. I want the userbase to grow and so do the jannies
i think. Your conflating current jannies with oldbo, which is wrong. You're the one who wants a niche board filled with ultra-edgy freeze peach tr00nspammers and decry any user who wants actual moderation as a reddit newfag who wants a hugbox.
>what difference does it make to you? because allowing your autism would make the site worse.
No.12927
>>12921>yes im sure mass bans and deletions will grow the site, im sure alienating large amounts of the userbase of the site will grow the site. there are no mass bans, maybe the reason you think there are is because you
and your clique shit up an inordinate amount of threads, its about as believable as Al Capone complaining about a police state.
>>12922I would be for that, but only on /meta/ because literally NOBODY wants metadrama to shit up the main boards, but ofc you would not be satisfied with that because you want to shit up every thread in siberia and leftypol as you do.
>its existed for like a month and you deleted all mention of it lmao. You won't actually admit that though because you are insane. Answer this, how many of the current active users do you think actually DON'T know the domain of leftychan, even after going there for a week. If you answer is less than 10 people it isn't worth it. And yeah, the mods are deleting it or at least voting to delete it because its spam.
Basically you have a fucking persecution complex because the jannies won't allow free advertising. This is sargon of akkad tier autism
No.12929
>>12920>That is correct. I am fully aware democracy may not go my way. ok are you seriously asking every single mod decision to be put to a vote? Every time a thread is cycled/deleted, person banned, etc. you want to call a three day vote on it? Direct democracy cant scale or work at that speed in modding
No.12932
>>12926>so are the mods bad for being pro haz or anti haz make up your mindooooh gotcha good. Kek. Not. The mods are bad for first giving Haz special treatment, which they undoubtedly did. I was called a wrecker (kek) many times for trolling him and being anti haz generally, while you all simped him, gave him special threads and deleted anti haz posts in those threads. Then, when he turned on the board, because he is a grifter and an autismo, they banned all talk of him, which was also bad. Unlike you, i can not a like a guy and not want all traces of him removed from the board, I also think there was still value in his shit takes being around, it probably actually raised the union conciousness of this board.
>literally impossible since the jannies are also users.are you saying it would be impossible for the jannies not to subvert a union? I agree probably, they are a bunch of spiteful little narcissits so they probably would. Is your argument seriously "we can't have democracy because the mods would purposefully fuck it up" lmao. That is why my suggested models have included measures to stop wrecking, as all unions and socialist parties should.
>Are you saying the mods need to capcode literally everywhere? because that would be annoying to alot of peoplemultiple people have asked for the mods to have to use their trips so they stop simping themselves pretending to be anon. Who would it annoy? A majority of people? How can we know..
>ok an my problem is that is that it needs to be truly representative of the userbase which is why it should be allowed on the front page, and instead of all the threads getting deleted and the pro union people being harrassed and attacked and smeared, there should be a drive to get as many users as possible involved in it. If people don't want to be involved in democracy, they don't have to be. If they have a problem, they then have the option to join the union and put their point across, if it isn't the majority opinion, that is too bad why does their opinion count more than everyone elses?
You say the users wont participate when you mods have actively discouraged their participation at every turn. Why have you done this?
> it needs to be truly representative of the userbasepoint number two on this, even under the attacks the union room suffered, it was still larger than the congress room, meaning it was more representative than the congress, and many times more representative than a tiny clique of mods. Also in that room, was many more people than "just me and my clique" as you like to put it.
>you see meta postsyou see meta posts also asking for democracy and a union. How could we tell what the majority of posters are doing?
>I would be for user democracy if it could actually guarantee a representative sample as above, allow the threads them, allow them to flourish, don't attack them, don't diminish them, don't spread lies about them, don't force the threads to have certain phrases or delete certain ones like you mods already did. If you want user representation like you say you do, you have to let it happen. Your position is completely ludicrous. The facts are opposite to the narrative you push, in fact the union was more popular than your congress, and would have been much more so if it had not been stomped on.
>not just your friend group.the majority of people in the union room i have never even sent a DM so this is just funamentally not true, and again, it was larger than your congress, more popular than the modocracy.
> Replacing a tyranny of jannies with a tyranny of a slightly larger group a slightly larger group that is posters not jannies and is therefor far more representative
of the posters.
>schizoid teenfags.an ad hominem and baseless smear. I am probably older than you are, going by average age of the board.
>did people say that? they have said that in this thread scroll up
>you say the mods are a clique yet every defense you use of your group, is also a defense of the mods. The mods don't all share the same political beliefs, and the mods also argue with each other.okay, so by your logic either we are both a clique or neither of us are a clique, but you keep saying im part of a clique… so which is it?
>neither is your group.so it seems we should hmmm come up with some method for seeing who the majority is in a fair neutral situation
>only if its a real majoritysure best way to do that is to try as hard as possible to make it as large as possible.
>and not a self selected group ofthe mods literally only select themselves kek nobody has a say in mod appointments but other mods
> who if their suggestions were implemented, would drive away the vast majority of grillers,according to you, but this is based on nothing. If they are so grill pilled, I'm sure they won't mind a greater diversity of conversations and threads, and being allowed to talk about things more freely.
>it only cares about its own ideas coming from the jannies who literally want to prune a vast array of ideas including talk about 9/11, iran contra, etc all of which the vast majority of the communist left consider to be history.
>and considered 90% of the users to be reddit/fbi.gov no just the jannoids and their most ardent simps which really isn't that many people its like 10-15 tops.
>and doesn't care if they leave.in fact the opposite is true i want as wide a variety of poster, lib or borderline reactionary, on the board as possible.
>Admit this isn't just a "war against muh jannies for the oppressed users" but it is
>" i've seen the gloating on /i/, where they literally say this shit about most users here being unworthy disco-rdfags.and there are posts in this thread where you jannies and janny simps call us all reactionaries. Which is actually laughable if you could see how i live my life on a daily basis. I have literally hunted down and seriously assaulted reactionaries on a number of occasions. I am literally involved in building socialist organisations which literally help literal proles push back against capital on a daily basis. I literally support lgb and even t rights. Its completely insane you would call me a reactionary.
>yeah its called make a post on /meta/ which the jannies will read. hahahahahahahahaha you literally don't know what representation means. Jannies delete complaints all the time. This is why users cannot express themselves properly and we cannot know the majority.
>Feedback is not the same as making yet another bureaucratic layer of matrix larpers.there is no current bureacracy, there is just a bunch of narcisstics shitting and farting, as can be seen by 2 splits in 2 years and continual drama constantly. Every socialist state has a bureaucracy, ever anarchist whatever. Its not a dirty word unless you are some lib.
>you know there's no way for anyone to know thatbut also you are sure. Lmao. K. Question answered then.
>Your conflating current jannies with oldbo, which is wrong.no actually i'm conflating the jannies with late stage oldBO, after he went insane, which is correct.
> You're the one who wants a niche board filled with ultra-edgy freeze peach tr00nspammersno i don't, i want a broad board filled with lots of different types of people, including yes, ultra edgelords and also libs. Diversity is good.
> decry any user who wants actual moderation as a reddit newfag who wants a hugbox.we've been through this above, i simply want the moderation to have oversight.
No.12933
>>12927>there are no mass bans,>in boliva there was no coup
>maybe this is cos you shit up the boardi literally only get banned for badmouthing mods and its not even that often. More often good threads are deleted/merged etc and this is what annoys me.
>I would be for that, but only on /meta/ because literally NOBODY wants metadrama to shit up the main boardsseems reasonable, so long as you could also link to relevant threads on chan if it was a relevant conversation on .org
> but ofc you would not be satisfied with that because you want to shit up every thread in siberia and leftypol as you do.woops, looks like i am with a slight caveat.
>Answer this, how many of the current active users do you think actually DON'T know the domain of leftychan, even after going there for a week. If you answer is less than 10 people it isn't worth it. And yeah, the mods are deleting it or at least voting to delete it because its spam.who knows. The fact is you deleted all mention of it, you deleted any mention of the other narrative, etc etc, if you are so convinced it wouldn't make any difference there is no reason to do it.
No.12934
>>12929this is never what i have suggested, rather that the protocols mods abide by be put to vote, as is the case in basically any representative socialist democracy (all of them)
No.12935
>>12926>because allowing your autism would make the site worse. no it would make it better
No.12937
>>12933>seems reasonable, so long as you could also link to relevant threads on chan if it was a relevant conversation on .org thats lowkey shilling
No.12938
>>12936Have a look at the facts my boy. Look at my signature thread, the esoteric hitler thread, a popular thread, multiple different anons contributing to a research subject. Multiple high quality effort posts and original research. Not an eceleb in sight, no sectarianism. This is my dream.
>>12937>thats lowkey shillingits literally pointing people to extra information
No.12940
>>12938>its literally pointing people to extra informationwould you characterize someone shilling their blog here the same way?
No.12944
>>12940I don’t see why it’s a problem if it was a blog post relevant to the subject at hand.
Even though I think it is different, it’s more acceptable, because it’s one left wing imageboard to another
No.12946
>>12920bruh if people wanted to use your shit website they would, thats the vote. fuck off
No.12947
>>12946No, users are
literally cattle and can't decide if they like one website more than the other. Bunkerchan vs leftypol.org is proof that people never move to another website because they think it's better!!
No.12949
>>12948Well if Dickinjury agrees, I shall now disagree!
No.12950
>>12946why do you filter it then, if the filtering has no effect
No.12952
>>12951its different then that
No.12954
>>12948>>12949>posting an actual academic's work is the same as shilling a randos blog or obscure other chanlel, even if you hate Cockshott you cant put him on the same tier as fucking Haz let alone leftychan
No.12961
>>12932>you see meta posts also asking for democracy and a union. How could we tell what the majority of posters are doing? those are leftychan raiders not .org users. All the democracy larpers already left to leftychan
No.12962
>>12932>an ad hominem and baseless smear. I am probably older than you are, going by average age of the board. I hope not, the thought of an actual adult being this autistic about an obscure chan is embarrassing
No.12963
>>12948I haven't seen Cockshott memes in a while outside /cybersoc/ . In any case forcing a meme, while cringe, is not the same as shilling. One is promoting a person or thinker or theory outlook like Bordiga/Dauve/Cockshott/Stirner/etc., the other is shilling a mere website or eceleb for their own grifting benefit.
No.12966
>>12960And yet… you mods literally shilled the eceleb Haz and gave them their own thread, which they defended vigourously, but a group of leftypol users somehow don’t get this privilege. Almost like it has nothing to do with some metric which you claim to abide by and is only based on the personal taste of the mods
>>12961People have been asking for this for longer than their was a leftychan or a .org, cope harder.
I notice no mod has answered the glaringly obvious: “oh we like democracy just this form is not representative enough” to which I have responded yes the way to make it representative to it not delete it, harrass the ones trying to implement it, and smear the idea in general, but to try as hard as we can to make it as large as possible.
The answer of course is you simply don’t want user input because it threatens your position and your claims to want a true representation are merely concern trolling. It’s actually a classic attack from the left CIA tactic.
>>12962>you’re a teenfag >no I’m not not >well you are too old then Classic jannoid gold post shifting lmaoooo
No.12967
>>12963>griftingYou literally shilled fucking Haz. If leftychan is grifting where is the money
No.12969
>representation
The trash that is crawling around on the "competitor" site (or rather adjacent fbi.gov and so on) is empirical proof that there are structural issues that can not be solved with "anonymous representation". Or maybe they are just too stupid to do it. One of the first things they did was make a (public) /i/.
No.12970
>>12967what the fuck do you mean YOU, i always hated haz and thought it was dumb to shill him
No.12971
>>12966Sage, I'm pretty sure you aren't older than most of the mod team or at most are around the same age. In any case I wasn't calling you a teenfag, thats more appropriate to zul/melon and other dramafagging immature assholes
No.12972
>>12967>If leftychan is grifting where is the moneyI'm pretty sure they will start asking for patreonbuxx like d0llars soon, and would have sooner if their plans werent ruined by all the users not migrating
No.12973
>>12966>I notice no mod has answered the glaringly obvious: “oh we like democracy just this form is not representative enough” to which I have responded yes the way to make it representative to it not delete it, harrass the ones trying to implement it, and smear the idea in general, but to try as hard as we can to make it as large as possible. the overhead of making yet another process would not be justified unless there's a huge disconnect between the users and mods which I don't believe exists, other than a small % of chronically dissatisfied people. One anon wants a thread to be merged and reports it and the anon who made the thread doesnt want their thread merged.
There's already a feedback mechanism for users called report, and when its used theres a >50% chance the mods will do something anyway, esp. if there are multiple reports.
You're acting like the jannies are turning this into a dictatorship while the truth is they are trying their hardest to make the max # of people happy although by the nature of modding this will always make a small % of people unhappy they didn't get their way. In this case those people made a split site, which is totally fine, but now they're spamming this one because they're seething, which is not fine.
It's a free world and a free internet, if everyone here is a "janny simp" and "redditoid" then why not just leave since you got the users who agreed with you already anyway. Otherwise you are just a bad faith actor like a /pol/tard who wants just to raid for the lulz and ruin other users experience.
This is plainly seen by the nature of the raids, if you really wanted to make people aware of the site you would do raids that are wordfilter-evading links to leftychan. Instead its just gore and anal gape spam, literally nothing to do with growing the left, or even leftychan at this point just indistinguishable from /pol/ spam, meant to degrade users experience, because they're not the "Real" leftypol to you but a bunch of redditoid newfags trying to have a hugbox discussing things without looking at prolapsed anuses all the time unlike the TROO EDGYBOI OLDFAG CHANNER LEFTYPOLERS who inhabit leftychan and would want this site to die EVEN if not a single user migrated.
Your mask slipped with that "this is my fucking board" shit
No.12983
>>12969>One of the first things they did was make a (public) /i/.yes and?
>>12970the majority of mods did not agree and that who is who I mean by you.
>>12971>dramafagging immature assholesthe fact that jannoids would think this doesn't apply to them, particularly given the contents of this thread, is really very indicative. You can't even accept a little bit of fault. Not one janny will even come out and say "yes most of us simped Haz and yes that was wrong" they simply never admit fault. Literally look in this thread, all over the board, show me an instance of a janny admitting fault. It doesn't happen.
>>12972>I'm pretty sure they will start asking for patreonbuxx like d0llars soonbased on what. There has been literally zero mention of this.
>werent ruined by all the users not migratingyeh lets just go over the same things over and over again. Jannoids censored and smeared the board and continue to do so. They would not have done this for any other reason than to sabotage it, or they wouldn't have bothered.
>>12973>the overhead of making yet another process is literally nothing. You just have to not delete it. In fact if you weren't so up tight and controlling and just let it happen you would have done less work and had less stupid arguments. There is zero overhead for you jannoids.
> unless there's a huge disconnect between the users and mods which I don't believe existshahahahahahahah. Lets find out then shall we, say, by letting the posters have their own room to say what they want, which is literally all that is being asked for. Otherwise we are just having to trust
>I don't believe well I believe there is a disconnect, hence the continual mod drama and 2 splits in 2 years.
>One anon wants a thread to be merged and reports itthe majority of users don't use the report function only a very small minority of users do, mods regularly complain the report queue is empty and tell people to use report more.
>and the anon who made the thread doesnt want their thread merged.probably for good reason, like, they want to discuss a specific topic not as a sub topic but in all its full glory, such as discussing 9/11 as a stand alone thing.
>There's already a feedback mechanism for users called report,kek, see above
>and when its used theres a >50% chance the mods will do something anyway, esp. if there are multiple reports.what if you want to report a thread being merged or janny deleting some bants because they are a pussyo what then?
>You're acting like the jannies are turning this into a dictatorshipit has always been one. Its a corporate board room larping as a vanguard.
> the truth is they are trying their hardest to make the max # of people happyif by this you mean the max number of jannies then yes.
> by the nature of modding this will always make a small % of people unhappy they didn't get their waywe have no way to tell the number of people because you won't allow us to find out
>In this case those people made a split siteyou split the site.
>but now they're spamming this one because they're seething, which is not fine.you robbed a number of users of their board.
>if everyone here is a "janny simp" and "redditoid" but not everyone is, only a very small minority of users, what like 10 jannies, and then their hangers on which is no more than 10 extra people
>then why not just leave>if you don't like it go back to your own country you a-rab you literally sound exactly like a reactionary in all of the things you say.
>bad faith actorno, i've had a very consistent line for a long time, and tell the truth about it, unlike the mods, who can't even admit a majority of them simped haz and then try to tell you you are the dishonest one.
> and ruin other users experience.the jannies have done that already
>if you really wanted to make people aware of the site you would do raids that are wordfilter-evading links to leftychan. yet another example of jannies blaming their victims for the things they do
>if you really wanted to make a union you would do thisno, you deleted the threads, its your fault there is no union
>if you really wanted to advertise a site you delete all mention. This is why I say insane. You are insane.
>Your mask slipped with that "this is my fucking board" shitit is my board, as much as it is yours, or any other users, which is what you fail to grasp, because you are a jannoid
ALSO this ENTIRE post is yet another switch of the goal posts. You realise you still haven't answered the question.
The question was predicated on YOU SAYING that you would support a union if it was truly representative. I said the best way to make it representative was to make it as big as possible, you didn't respond to that, just claimed that there is no disconnect from the users. Assuming your opinion of the board and the users and their relationship to you jannies is automatically the representative one, rather than trying to build something which resembles actual representation. The fact you posted some cat image beside your words does not change that.
So, answer the question I already asked. If you are so concerned with representation, like you claim to be, why resist efforts to create representation?
No.12984
>>12983>yeh lets just go over the same things over and over again. Jannoids censored and smeared the board and continue to do so. They would not have done this for any other reason than to sabotage it, or they wouldn't have bothered. they've smeared themselves by posting gore/analspam. Nobody forced them to do that
No.12985
>>12983>well I believe there is a disconnect, hence the continual mod drama and 2 splits in 2 years. thats mod drama not user drama and it was caused by zul/melon no one else
No.12986
>>12985>thats mod drama not user dramathis proves my point. There is a disconnect because the users have consistently wanted none of this drama and the mods have brought it.
> and it was caused by zul/melon no one elseonly zul and melon split from dollars?
Only zul and melon have caused drama since that split? literally nobody but you mods believes this
No.12987
>>12984drastic times call for drastic measures. You refuse to be reasonable in any shape or form and post continual deflection, lies and gaslighting. You can't even admit to basic things which we all saw like how a majority of mods simped haz and then backtracked. You won't even admit that whole debacle was largely janny caused because you simply cannot admit fault for ANYTHING.
No.12988
>>12983>you robbed a number of users of their board. AHA! see! you feel entitled to users like starcraft minerals!
>but not everyone is, only a very small minority of users, what like 10 jannies, and then their hangers on which is no more than 10 extra peopleexcept that 300 people stayed. I guess you think they're all brainwashed and would go to leftychan immediately if the wordfilter was removed.
<and ruin other users experience.>the jannies have done that alreadyfor you, maybe.
>no, i've had a very consistent line for a long time, and tell the truth about it, unlike the mods, who can't even admit a majority of them simped haz and then try to tell you you are the dishonest one. so admit that other people did something I had nothing to do with? By your logic jews are responsible for the election of hitler.
>yet another example of jannies blaming their victims for the things they do VICTIM? you think of yourself as a VICTIM you fucking delusional sociopath, you're as much of a victim as Dick Cheney
>The fact you posted some cat image beside your words does not change that. "some cat" huh, newfag larping as oldfag
No.12989
>>12986>users have consistently wanted none of this drama and the mods have brought it. thats right and the mods responsible are now exiled to cuckchan.net so the problems solved
No.12990
>>12987>drastic times call for drastic measures. You refuse to be reasonable in any shape or form and post continual deflection, lies and gaslighting. You can't even admit to basic things which we all saw like how a majority of mods simped haz and then backtracked. You won't even admit that whole debacle was largely janny caused because you simply cannot admit fault for ANYTHING.<HAZ HAZ HAZ HAZwhen you you ever let them live that down? Yet, you're spamming gore NOW.
No.12991
>>12987>You can't even admit to basic things which we all saw like how a majority of mods simped haz and then backtracked. literally everyone knows the MAJORITY of mods at the time wanted Haz but in fairness so did alot of the users although I personally thought it was stupid and he was a meme and was eventually was proven right. You're acting like only the jannies bought into the Haz BS when in fact a ton of users did as well, which was also dumb. This "Haz" shit isn't the own you think it is
No.12992
>>12988>AHA! see! you feel entitled to users like starcraft minerals!no I feel entitled to post on a board i have posted on for years, without threads being smushed by jannies, and many posters feel like this. You feel entitled to tell users what they can and can't see, what websites they can and cannot visit. Insane. Completely insane.
>except that 300 people stayed.how many times do we have to go over this. If you deleting all mention of the site and smearing the users made no difference at all to numbers why did you do it?
>I guess you think they're all brainwashed and would go to leftychan immediately if the wordfilter was removed.this has already been addressed gold fish brains, scroll up.
>for you, maybe.for the last 5 years this board has been in decline since chief mod old BO che lost his mind, it has never recovered, each time it does mod drama throws some shit in the works.
Also, how do you know, its only me, that has had the experience ruined? You literally wont give posters a place to find out. As said repeatedly.
>so admit that other people did something I had nothing to do with?do you or do you not support the current jannoid administration and did they or did they not majoritively support haz you fucking goon.
> By your logic jews are responsible for the election of hitler.ill let bystanders just laugh at that without comment
>VICTIM? you think of yourself as a VICTIM yes, you deleted the unions threads, over and over again, i made deals with you, did everything you asked, poured hours into it, even though you were in the threads pretending to be anons arguing against them, and you deleted them, purely because you are control freaks.
You consider yourselves the victims and that is the hilarious thing
>"some cat" huh, newfag larping as oldfagactually is said some cat image, but you continnually twist words and lie, in every post, always. And yes, i have been here since 2015 which is how i know what good moderation looks like
No.12993
>>12989>thats right and the mods responsible are now exiled to cuckchan.net so the problems solvedoh so every mod that did the dollars coup is not on the mod team interesting, every mod that did all the drama in the intervening time is also not in the mod team anymore?
See, you literally cant admit to ANYTHING AT ALL.
Give one example of janny team admitting they were wrong. One example.
>>12990give one single example of jannies admitting fault at any point.
you line is literally
>it was all the other guys and we are actual saints and that isn't me exaggerating because that is literally what you have said in this post
>>12989the only mods responsible for drama are the other guys. You are a baby, an infant, completely retarded, or actually insane. Its visible to anyone who isn't a loon like you.
>>12991Don't fucking minimise it you little prick. The jannies gave him his own protected thread and deleted anti haz comments, they did this as a body. This was a mistake. Stop worming around. It IS an own, you just like to pretend it isn't, its yet another in a long chain of examples of jannies being utterly shit, and that is down to a lack of accountability, and low and behold, you don't want a body of users to hold you accountable. Oh wow, shock
No.12994
>>12992>You feel entitled to tell users what they can and can't see, what websites they can and cannot visit. Insane. Completely insane. Oh yeah sure, I'm stopping them from typing leftychan.org into their browser bar. Moron.
>If you deleting all mention of the site and smearing the users made no difference at all to numbers why did you do it? Uh, so random other threads aren't derailed with metadrama?
>for the last 5 years this board has been in decline since chief mod old BO che lost his mind, it has never recovered, each time it does mod drama throws some shit in the works.and the latest drama was caused by the zul/melon clique who couped the board when they could have just done nothing, instead, they initiated the drama to begin with.
>yes, you deleted the unions threads, over and over again, i made deals with you, did everything you asked, poured hours into it, even though you were in the threads pretending to be anons arguing against them, and you deleted them, purely because you are control freaks. uhhh. when the fuck did this happen? when did you make a deal with the mods? I literally don't remember this ever fucking happening, inb4 gaslighting.
>do you or do you not support the current jannoid administration and did they or did they not majoritively support haz you fucking goon. I support it and yeah they did support Haz, which again, was dumb, but tons of users did as well.
>Also, how do you know, its only me, that has had the experience ruinedyou're the only 1 i see seething here, anon
No.12995
>>12993>oh so every mod that did the dollars coup is not on the mod team interesting, every mod that did all the drama in the intervening time is also not in the mod team anymore? d0llars was the wrecker in that context because he scabbed to space_ . Literally even the leftychan people agree to this.
>MUH JANNIES, GIVE ME ATTENTIONwhat, do you want them to capcode and literally apologize to you personally? lel
>the only mods responsible for drama are the other guys. You are a baby, an infant, completely retarded, or actually insane. Its visible to anyone who isn't a loon like you. except thats actually true. See any drama on .org since the split? no, because the remaining mods are the adults and agree on a vision. Funny how you abandon the Caballos clique meme as soon as its convenient
>The jannies gave him his own protected threadtrue
<deleted anti haz commentsliterally not true, INB4 im minimizing I was one of the primary ones shitting on haz in those threads
>its yet another in a long chain of examples of jannies being utterly shitwhat about the long record of them not being shit? anyone can look bad if you only count their bad decisions and also combine their record with oldbo/dollars/space_ as you so do in bad faith
>you don't want a body of users to hold you accountable. Oh wow, shock<just put sage and his clique in charge and they'll know how to run shitoh, and going by the example of leftychan, regardless of levels of users, NO. They have an /i/ board public leading to blowback, bad moderation, a blood sports rightoid bait debate thread, their catalog looks like shit with just as much /itg/ BS, the only good thread they even have is the cybersoc. If this is what your "user democracy" looks like its absolute dogshit and worse than this site by far
No.13000
>>12994>Oh yeah sure, I'm stopping them from typing leftychan.org into their browser bar. Moron.i see you have removed the word filter to make a point. Cool. Will you stop lying and smearing now? If this is posted outside of this in relevant places will you let it happen? Doubtful.
>Uh, so random other threads aren't derailed with metadrama?and yet.. you still allow people to spam smears as much as they want. What if its a relevant thread?
>and the latest drama was caused by the zul/melon cliqueno it was caused by mods continued refusal to listen to anybody
>uhhh. when the fuck did this happen?uhhhh, after the last uhhhh split of the board uhhhh for like 2 months
> I literally don't remember this ever fucking happeningmakes sense because you have a goldfish memory which is why we keep covering the same points. Coma and other mods at the time at least admit this happened. You can't lie your way out of it.
> but tons of users did as well.which im sure had nothing to do with the mods directly simping him.. that wouldn't change the discourse around it at all… wouldn't make it seem like the numbers of haz simps were inflated if the people with the power to prune the board did it in his favour…
>you're the only 1 i see seething here, anonare you really denying people regularly complain about your moderation?
>d0llars was the wrecker in that context because he scabbed to space_ . Literally even the leftychan people agree to this.so fucking what, its mod drama, which is the original point, not user drama. Literally every post you just shift the goal posts. Stay on topic. There is a disconnect between mods and users because you keep doing things like this.
>what, do you want them to capcodeit would be much more honest
>except thats actually true. see still unable to accept any fault or take any accountability
>See any drama on .org since the split? no, because the remaining mods are the adults and agree on a vision.hahahahahaha you mean when you clamped down on all counter narratives
>Funny how you abandon the Caballos clique meme as soon as its convenientlmao, i didn't abandon it you did, i asked you if we are both cliques or neither of us are, and you didn't answer that post. Actual retard.
>literally not true, oh, another complete lie then, i had comments deleted over and over and over again and so did a number of other posters. I was called a wrecker and banned for wrecking just for trolling hazites. You simply lie as you lie about everything else. or maybe you "cant remember2
>what about the long record of them not being shit?there isn't one
> anyone can look bad if you only count their bad decisionsanyone can look good if you refuse point blank to acknowledge that there have been bad decisions
>just put sage and his clique in charge1) back to the clique thing lmao. So are you mods a clique then? 2) i've literally not asked to be in charge, i've asked for a room where posters can discuss things without fear of being censored by mods, when the room happened, despite constant attacks, it was more popular than you mod congress, and most of the people i had no other relationship with, so no, it isn't a clique, and yes it is more representative than whatever it is you mods are doing. These are points you have utterly failed to address
No.13001
>>13000>words words wordswho fucking cares just stop raiding and fuck off
No.13002
>>13001Another change of the goal posts when you can’t answer any of the above. Classic jannoid
No.13003
>>13000>i see you have removed the word filter to make a point. Cool.no thats the fake address, you got baited.
>you still allow people to spam smears as much as they want.nobody saying shit about leftychan in the main boards, except as a response to you. Stop shitting up the main boards and the "smears" will disappear.
>What if its a relevant thread? if its relevant to meta-drama it should be in /meta/
>makes sense because you have a goldfish memory which is why we keep covering the same points.then why don't you enlighten us? we're waiting.
>are you really denying people regularly complain about your moderation? says the guy who made like half the posts in this thread. Yeah, people occasionally complain but not to your level. you're an outlier
>so fucking what, its mod drama, which is the original point, not user drama. Literally every post you just shift the goal posts. Stay on topic. There is a disconnect between mods and users because you keep doing things like this. Most don't seem to care NOW. the board is fine as it is NOW so stop shitting it up. The drama is OVER, unless you purposely restart it.
>hahahahahaha you mean when you clamped down on all counter narratives see? you have no point. Zul/melon are out the drama is ended. Thats what you wanted right, an end to mod drama? well now, its happened. Problem solved, be happy. Most of the users are.
>lmao, i didn't abandon it you did, i asked you if we are both cliques or neither of us are, and you didn't answer that post. Actual retard. <CLIQUE CLIQUE CLIQUEinventing qanon tier schizo conspiracies, why don't you just become a rightoid alex jones tier reactionary since your brain is there already
>i've literally not asked to be in charge, i've asked for a room where posters can discuss things without fear of being censored by modstheres "literally" nothing stopping you from that. Anyone can create a matrix room. Plus the user congress already fills that function. What you're asking for is a room with political power which is totally different. Essentially to become mini mods. Admit it, your accusations of being power hungry are total projection.
>most of the people i had no other relationship withbullshit. you are all commiserating and seething together, if you didnt have a connection before you're certainly a clique now, you've turned them against the mods and poisoned their minds against leftypol with your schizo conspiracies. you are 100% a wrecker.
No.13005
>>13002>Another change of the goal posts when you can’t answer any of the above. Classic jannoidanother snarky response when you get BTFO. classic sage
No.13007
>>13003>no thats the fake address,okay so you haven't removed it and the obstacle remains
> you got baited.wow le epic troll you are truly a master manipulator
>nobody saying shit about leftychan in the main boards, except as a response to you.nobody is saying shit about it at all and i'm not talking about it there. However every time i post some little fuck posts "stfu wrecker cuck" or "why don't you post this in wrecker chan" which is literally the only people talking about it, but you don't remove these. Its not about spam, its about ideology.
>Stop shitting up the main boards and the "smears" will disappear.im not. Point to an example.
>if its relevant to meta-drama it should be in /meta/what about any other subject?
>then why don't you enlighten us? we're waiting.i just told you in the last post
>>13000 "uhhhh, after the last uhhhh split of the board uhhhh for like 2 months" "Coma and other mods at the time at least admit this happened. You can't lie your way out of it. " literally directly after bit you quoted you fucking gimp.
>Yeah, people occasionally complain but not to your level.actually they complain all the time. No maybe not on my level. So what, its still complaints, you are in denial about.
>Most don't seem to care NOW. according to you.
> Most of the users are.prove it
> "clique clique clique" so its okay when you say it
>muh skitzo muh qanon muh alex jones kek, literally wrote and article in part about how alex jones is a fed, which resides in one of the most popular threads on your board but cool bro just throw around random buzz words. You are the reactionary, you are anti union and anti leftist.
>theres "literally" nothing stopping you from that. you "literally" deleted the posts, as we have been through multiple times and mods who were there at the time have admitted to and apoligised for.
>Plus the user congress already fills that function.no it doesn't because it is mod controlled and they can therefore prune discssioin and complaints against them which they do do all the time.
>What you're asking for is a room with political power which is totally different.nope, im not, im asking for a poster controlled room.
>Essentially to become mini mods. nope, dont want any modding power. inb4 "you just want to be a mod without doing mod work" which will be your next goalpost shift.
>Admit it, your accusations of being power hungry are total projection.no this is you projecting right now this second. I want the posters to have power, you do not. Its that simple.
>bullshit.its not bullshit, there was over 60 people in that room and i had relationships with about 5 or 6 of them.
>you've turned them against the mods and poisoned their minds lmao whose going "muuuh brainwashing" now retard
>you are 100% a wrecker.you are the one wrecking.
i notice you refuse to comment on the conspiracy thread being merged btw which literally nobody asked for.
>>13005>words words wordsyes such a btfo
No.13012
>>13007>i just told you in the last post >>13000 "uhhhh, after the last uhhhh split of the board uhhhh for like 2 months" "Coma and other mods at the time at least admit this happened. You can't lie your way out of it. " literally directly after bit you quoted you fucking gimp.>i made deals with youcaps or it didn't happen. you're lying. I never recall any agreement of the mod team and you specifically. This is a pure lie. It's hilarious you would think literally anyone would believe the mod team made a DEAL with you kek
>so its okay when you say itbecause its true when i say it
>according to you. according to actual data and amount of complaints in /meta/ which all can see
>you "literally" deleted the posts, as we have been through multiple times and mods who were there at the time have admitted to and apoligised for. <IM ENTITLED TO FREE ADVERTISING AND PLATFORMING, HELP HELP IM BEING OPPRESSED!rightoid levels of delusion. You sound like Molymeme or Sargon.
>nope, im not, im asking for a poster controlled room. then go ahead and make it or im sure you already have.
>you just want to be a mod without doing mod workthats literally true.
>lmao whose going "muuuh brainwashing" now retard cuz its true
>i notice you refuse to comment on the conspiracy thread being merged btw which literally nobody asked for. Scroll up retard, it was merged and cycled because it was reaching the bump limit anyway so it was that or let it fall off the catalog
BTW I notice you refuse to respond to to charges of leftychans bad governance. How do you explain that your beloved "user democracy" aka sage-ocracy and
schizo-ocracy results in such a shit site with bad ideas like /i/ ? If this is is how shit will turn out with your system im 100% glad thats not how this place is run.
No.13013
>>13007>no it doesn't because it is mod controlled and they can therefore prune discssioin and complaints against them which they do do all the time. I'd like to see some evidence of this SAGE. Evidence of the mods controlling the user congress and deleting shit. Because AFAIK thats not happening at all. Its just filled with anons who don't like you or the splitter clique, so therefore you declare them to be janny simps or mod controlled.
No true scotsman fallacy. User democracy = sageocracy
No.13067
>>13012>caps or it didn't happen. UH OH,
LOOK WHO IS BUSTED
>because its true when i say itand yet you have just been proven a liar woopsie
>according to actual data and amount of complaints in /meta/ which all can seebut you delete complaints lmao
>rightoid levels of delusion. You sound like Molymeme or Sargon.>entitled to free advertisingnot the point, another shift of the goal posts, you said there was no obstacle, there is clearly an obstacle, you are just saying you are entitled to put and obstacle there. RETARD ALERT
>then go ahead and make it or im sure you already have.what is the point if you can't put it where the board users are?
>thats literally true.no it isn't literally true its literally false, the job of a mod isn't to dictate board policy, it is to moderate according to what the users want. Mask off moment though cos clearly thats how you see it
>cuz its truenothing you say is true, caps prove you lie
No.13068
>>13055actually, just have a job and needed to go fetch the screen caps you ask for, liar
>>13018blah blah all mod lies and slander, proven in this thread mods are liars. They definitely deleted posts related to the union despite saying it could stay up, and they defintiely deleted multiple posts attacking haz, some which weren't even from me, posts which were simply pro direct action
>>13013you keep asking for evidence, you refuse to give any, and i have given mine, if anybody is to be believed here, it is me not you lying mod scum
No.13069
cool smug images though definitely makes you correct RETARD
No.13073
>>13067wtf is happening in these small ass screencaps? I didn't see a mod making a deal in there.
No.13091
>>13073>you can make your thread Coooope
No.13126
Oh wow that insane lying mod hasn’t replied for two whole days.
Mods confirmed for liars and retards
No.13127
Sage = correct and vindicated
No.13132
Three full days, no response, mods completely destroyed
No.13134
>>13132>>13127>>13126too late sage. too late
you've already been BTFO
No.13135
>>13133>>13134HAHAHAH still no argument lmao.
CAPS AND IT DID HAPPEN.
INSANE MOD, LYING AGAIN, COPING A SEETHING AGAIN
AHAHAHHA
No.13136
>>13135t. seething sage
BTFO so hard that he loses the argument then comes back like NO, I WAS LOOKING FOR CAPS THATS WHY I DIDNT RESPOND FOR 3 DAYS
CUZ IM TOTALLY NOT BTFO No.13137
>>13136Proven liar
>caps or or didn’t happen >caps are posted, proving it happened Uhhhj…..uh…no u
Pathetic
No.13139
>>13138>pretending you can’t see what is right in front of you and right in front of any onlooker Again I see, completely insane.
No.13142
>>13139No you're completely insane. Arguing with people in this thread over and over, accusing people of gaslighting do you ever even look in the mirror and think maybe you're the one whos crazy
No.13149
>>13142I have provided proof of my claims. You have provided non. It’s right there. Insane
No.13161
>>13156This is the most hilarious cope. Even without clicking to expand, they are clearly legible.
No.13182
Oh wow janny this is fucking cringe lmao pretending you can’t read a new low even for you, btfo for days at this point nearly a week
No.13185
>>13182>>13161no use responding now sage, you were already btfo in
>>13055 forever and ever
C O P E and S E E T H E No.13186
>>13185what point was i beat out on dear jannoid
No.13188
>>13187my fanclub made another meme, based. Must have taken at least a couple of minutes. Probably about half an hour in total. And a soyjack from the people who banned the soyjack script
Now Jannoid, me, seethe? uh, caps or didn't happen
lmao No.13189
>>13188>SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE SEETHE SEETHELOL, see the rest of this whole thread
No.13194
>>13189Caps or it didn’t happen jannoid
No.13244
caps or it didn’t happen
No.13271
>>13270wrecking? When did that happen? Caps or it didn't happen
No.13314
still no caps from the janny, days later, must not have happened
No.13351
>>13334Still nothing from the jannoids I see how embarrassing
No.13545
>>13539>p….p…please goNo. Hahahahaha.
Caps of me being deranged or it didn’t happen Lmao. You’ve been coping for like two straight weeks now, a proven liar ahahahha
No.13549
>>13545I declare Sage the winner and to be in the right here.
No.13550
>>13549>>13545WRONG! jannies already won!!!!
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