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 No.14349[View All]

Hello comrades, this thread is about discussing and coordinating outreach programs to other online communities and/or IRL to get them to come visit us. Personally, I think we should incorporate the QR code more into our outreach efforts. I came across one anon who suggested making posters about the website in their university and thought it would be dope to include. Signal boosting New Multitude and OC memes is good too. Feel free to discuss among yourself, the mods will take a backseat in this thread.

However fair warning, pivoting to other bullshit like
>Um actually, if everyone does what I want, we will have more members
>REEEE Jannies are ruining this board with XYZ

will be banned for topic dilution. Especially the usual suspects. Please believe that.

Don't worry about how the new users will dilute the community ala Eternal September. Board culture or the moderation team will sort them out.
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 No.14427

>>14419
>The mods who remain on this site are all now anti-Haz
(Actually I just don't give a fuck about internet trash and therefore don't care about haz shit, I just saw it as a temporary necessity to de-esacalate for site security.)

 No.14428

>>14426
(Not that mod) I think this touches on an idea that maybe generals shouldn't be 'everything (USA|PRC) goes in here'. For things like mainstream politics news (Biden did a thing, AOC said words) or happenings (ten Afghan threads) then yes, a general becomes good at preventing a flood of crap, but there are other events and topics that may warrant an independent thread.
But where is that damn line? I don't know. And right now it's kind of a rapid decision process; you shouldn't just merge it once it's 50 posts deep so there's pressure to make fast decisions on those borderline threads.

 No.14429

Last warning to remain on topic or be banned.

 No.14430

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 No.14431

>>14398
>maybe we should float the idea of archiving all the boards, then merging them?
that has basically been understood as an impossible option, one the mod team will realistically never take. it only pleases a minority of posters who, largely, don't use those boards, to the detriment of a good number of people who actually do and enjoy them.

 No.14432

>>14430
Nah, put a picture of Alunya on it.

 No.14433

mods should just clean all the non-relevant posts of this thread so we can get back on track smoothly (including this one)

 No.14434

>>14418
It might be better instead of sharing a stream key among many people to have an official twitch channel with very few operators and make use of the hosting features to share the channels of other users, but sorting out how to do that kind of thing warrants a much more in depth discussion snd community feedback.

 No.14435

>>14434
I personally am against trying to make more and more 'official' channels. It doesn't need to be official to be great.

>>14418
Unironically, apathy will keep them out. Unless they know to look for it, they won't get it.
If there's a non-public way to manage it (e.g. a Matrix/element chat room, or does twitch have DMs?) then that would work too. Worst case, reset the streamkey and reshare it.

 No.14436

>>14431
>a good number of people
to me it looks like most boards are nearly dead. almost every thread was imported from another iteration of the site so theres no continuity and you can't ask people questions or get (you)s from pre 2020-12-20 posters. You just end up replying to ghosts and necrobumping.

 No.14437

>>14435
Right, that's what I'm saying. If there's an official Twitch instead of consolidating people using one official channel, ise that channel to promote affiliated channels or just people that the userbase likes. There are other smalltime leftist twitch streamers and promoting them and interacting with them can bring more attention to the site. Better use of the social network than a single channel that doesn't connect as much to others. Connectivity is a bog deal to the algorithms and to people's eyeballs.

 No.14438

>>14435
Yes, official implies the mod has to approve or be involved. Which opens a whole can of worms.

Might as well keep things unofficial.

 No.14439

>>14376
thats funny as fuck, great idea

 No.14440

Anyone here heard of 16chan? They have a literal /fascism/ board
I dont think we have many options for öutreach" if that's our competitioon

 No.14441

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>>14440
>16chan
>competition
lmao, their /fascism/ died after anon.cafe booted their crying asses. It's literally WN + wehrabooism; if more than three of their users had actually read Mussolini I might respect them.

picrel: our alt boards have more activity than their whole site. Their competition is /mlpol/.

 No.14442

The best way to recruit is going to be raids. That's how imageboards grow. Anons aren't going to get involved in elaborate plans that requires any effort on their part. At best you will get a small group that falls apart in a week. You need simple plans that are zero effort and lets the autists here spam their shitty memes. You have to lean into the strengths of imageboards.

 No.14443

>>14442
Why do what /pol/ does to us? We would be infamous then.

 No.14444

>>14442
This is true hut mods don’t want us raiding apart from that one time with the chinjack meme. I think we should raid /pol/ with the infograph showing they are pedos personally, reboot it by combining with the chin Jack, put some leftypol stamps on in

 No.14445

>>14444
At the end of the day, the real issues are:
>having dedicated 'let's raid [x] threads' that validate /pol/s paranoia
>threads that are obviously false flags made by /pol/ for /pol/
The only reason its a big issue is that our userbase is relatively small (big for an English altboard, but not comparable to a board that averages (not peak, average, and super duper overrepresented by burgers) 5,000 PPH. There's already a constant baseline of raids and complaints about post quality, so it makes sense for the site not to officially encourage a /leftypol/ raid, at least at this point in time.

But you can shitpost on /pol/ regardless of what I say. I ain't your momma. We already had a couple of former users try to bait /pol/ by false flagging as leftypol.org so it will probably be fine if you do it 4reels.

 No.14446

>>14445
The point is the organisation though, doing things together

 No.14447

>>14446
I think if we had more staff to clean up counter raids, it would be fine

 No.14448

>>14444
>>14445
I didn't mean raiding /pol/. That's a total waste of time. We should raid sites outside of the imageboard space.

 No.14449

>>14448
>total waste of time
that's an understatement
the obsession (by some people, I pray for some of them to get over it) with a place several hundred times our size is actively harmful.

 No.14450

>jannies desperately want more people to lord over
you won't get people because this site doesn't offer anything people will want. doesn't even have that chan freedom of speech that would separate it from reddit, moderation is just as draconian here, except there isn't a list of rules like on reddit, but it's whatever one of the ten mods feels in the moment when he reads a post. people are leaving because people aren't stupid, this place is boring, and no amount of janny wishful thinking will change that.

 No.14451

>PEOPLE ARE LEAVING!!! …WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE HAVE LIVES OUTSIDE THE INTERNET?!

 No.14452

>>14448
We should raid a variety of targets the beauty of /pol/ is they have very little defences and are easily triggered. The chinjack is proof of concept

 No.14453

>>14452
No we shouldn't you moron, then they'll just raid us harder then ever and the board will go down the tubes.

 No.14454

>>14453
May I ask you, for how long do you think their raid will last. I thought that the poljak one only lasted a few days.

>>14452
Personally I think that it would be better if we find a way to stick it to Agent Kochinski.
There is a pretty large group of leftist who dislike him, and I think that if we manage to start some drama with that CIA asset, we'd be able to get some of them to post here.

 No.14455

>>14453
Like the chinjack raid made the board go down the tubes … oh wait… t didn’t…

 No.14456

Appealing to disaffection towards liberalism is a better strategy than galvanizing hatred toward the right. This is true as a pitch for this site as it is a general approach in current politics. Liberalism is the first obstruction that must be removed to consolidate the left.

The whole pitch needs to be the emphasis on political INcorrectness. There is a demand . Many leftists find all this talk of safe spaces and safe words and racialist identity politics distasteful and counterproductive , i.e "your argument is invalid because you're white!" or "speaking as a non-binary demikin double espresso shot mocha late". 4chan /pol/ has been able to tap into this widespread disaffection albeit from the reactionary side, but they had the advantage of piggybacking off the most trafficked chan in the anglosphere and arguably the world. And much to its detriment that board has influenced world affairs indirectly through its memetic activities. There's no reason this board couldn't also have such a detrimental effect, should we work towards it and prudent decisions made.

 No.14457

>>14456
>>14456
> Many leftists find all this talk of safe spaces and safe words and racialist identity politics distasteful and counterproductive
***yet they have no means to escape conversations dominated by it, so they begrudgingly go along with it and suppress their disagreement.

 No.14458

>>14454
>Personally I think that it would be better if we find a way to stick it to Agent Kochinski.
easiest way would be pay to viewbot him in an extremely obvious way and mass report it

 No.14459

>>14456
>many terminally online retards get triggered by words so we should coddle them and make sure they are comfortable

 No.14460

>>14456
Problem is many people who are 'alienated by political correctness' etc are just massive reactionary dickheads. Just look at stupidpol.

 No.14461

>>14456
>Appealing to disaffection towards liberalism is a better strategy than galvanizing hatred toward the right
No reason not to do both; however, I couldn't agree more on the rest.

 No.14462

>>14456
Please tell us, what actions should we take towards such a strategy?

 No.14463

>>14456
There (appears to be) a necessary balance between 'political incorrectness' and stupidity. I'm not claiming they are they same whatsoever. Absolutely not. But there is a point where /pol/ 'da jews' becomes an instant derail and the site can't fucking resist low-tier bait and will let any thread get derailed over it.
So at what point does controversial reactionary takes become incompatible with a reasonable quality standard?

And again, there are politically incorrect leftist stances which are allowed, but the above is something worth thinking about. Our ban on idpol tends to omit many, but I suppose removing idpol rules is off the table as it's a core principle of the site.

 No.14464

perhaps a temporary element chat for those actually interesting in participating would be a good idea? if such is done, it should also be put into the OP so people can see it easier rather than letting it get clogged up by other messages down here

 No.14465

>>14442
>what has already been done and has lead us to this point of relative weakness, historically and recently, is what we must always do
jej, like 99% of our recent recruits aren't from raiding efforts, and we went from like 200 people at the death kneel of 8chan to 600 odd people now (daily IP wise, as an average) and as per most people asking them, they aren't from /pol/ or whatever, they just came ambiently from word of mouth. raids are dead and useless cause our opposition in /pol/ is all braindead manchildren which haven't had a critical thought in their head for years, and they aren't about to start. chans overall are slowly dying, so looking beyond our own backyard is something of a necessity.

 No.14466

>>14465
>to 600 odd people now
fucking janny reality manipulation must stop. there are not 600 different people visiting this website every day. if that were true, there wouldn't be two active boards on this website. unless all 600 are lifeless losers who don't read or go out but spend their time watching anime, playing video games and making memes

 No.14467

>>14466
and before you post a screenshot of statistics or peepee or whatever, remembered that you never explained how IPs and posts are counted, so the numbers are meaningless

 No.14468

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>>14466
it varies day-to-day but its usually like roundabout 400 IPs to roundabout 600, with slumps and highs that mostly correlate to irl happenings or lack thereof. we don't have any way to look at the density of posts distributed through different threads but most of it is concentrated in cyclicals, which is why its not as reflective on the front page. using the overboard also usually shows decent health with the alt-boards, usually there being like 5-10 decently active threads (relative to alt-board standards) which vary on the alt-board subject.

a good example being star wars and avatar being big threads cause of the Mandalorian and the netflix release of the avatar series leading them to having a few pretty good threads, activity and quality wise, which have now gone into a lull without new content. there are a few which are slower overall but really consistent (like the HEMA thread with like 4 or 5 dedicated anons) but they are there and alive. they cater to niche audiences to which activity changes relative to content available a lot of the time, its not really the kind of activity which is easily reflected in PPH stats. but the goal of alt-boards is more fostering communities that PPH to begin with cause its just always a good idea to diversify a little bit, and relative to their predecessors on 8chan they are a lot more active than before, which is generally seen as a pretty good win.

 No.14469

lol there are like 10-30 of us posters at max depending on time of day. i wouldn't be surprised if everything else was bots

 No.14470

>>14465
Stop conflating IP addresses with people.
Many users have constantly changing dynamic IP addresses due to ISPs cycling them. Many users are on the same IP address. It's a loose indicator.

>>14467
>you never explained how IPs and posts are counted, so the numbers are meaningless
A post is counted when a user makes a post.
You can also count/average this yourself by getting ([last current post number] minus [post made [x] hours ago] divided by [x] hours).

IP count is the number of unique IP addresses that made posts within the given timeframe. An important note is that the Total column used to just sum the counts on each board, so if 127.3.2.1 posted on both /leftypol/ and /hobby/, it used to count as 2 in Total. Now it counts as 1.

>>14469
Which, if they're online for an average of one hour, would be 240-720 per day.

 No.14471

>>14470
>Many users have constantly changing dynamic IP addresses due to ISPs cycling them. Many users are on the same IP address. It's a loose indicator.
Many users also use the TOR node, which only counts as 1 IP, or end up having a shared local IP. We don't just use IP, we also look at PPH and other more obscure measurements as well to try and keep a general idea of overall board health.

Though, this topic is divergent from the main thread one, so I'll just leave it at that.

 No.14529

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Just not to redditify this site too much.

 No.14532

>>14529
try not to*

 No.14533

>>14529
>how to subvert /leftypol/
<engage in arguments with anons who already know every nazi trick in the book
<try learning some Marxism to debunk them
amazing reverse psychology, Israeli vpn user

 No.14534

>>14529
Fuck Israel and death to /pol/ degeneracy!!!

 No.14562

Hi, I'm an ambassador from another site's embassy. I posted a thread here: >>>/siberia/174289

I understand this potentially may not be received well and may be considered counter-productive to your goals, but I just wanted to try to open a line of dialogue and see where it may go. Apologies if this is considered intrusive/derailing.


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