Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 16:30:34 No. 14350
>>14349 your last attempt was a massive failure this one will be as well; why is this moronic suggestion being taken seriously? wherein the thread that it was proposed had multiple blogposts about why leftypol went to shit and why it has zero appeal to broader leftspaces online.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 16:31:27 No. 14351
This should be a poster lead initiative.
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-10-28 (Thu) 16:50:20 No. 14352
>>14350 The last attempt was a failure precisely people were too busy with their self-loathing to come up with suggestions.
>>14351 Sure. I personally was always in favour of the mods taking a backseat in affairs like this that I convinced the others to let me do things my way this time.
Not OP ## Mod 2021-10-28 (Thu) 16:52:08 No. 14353
>>14350 To be clear I am the mod who made the last topic and I won't be involved in this one. So give them a chance.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 16:57:14 No. 14354
>>14349 advertise in places where the proletariat sees it
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 16:58:36 No. 14355
Why don't we advertise on right-wing forms then we can convert them over!
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 17:02:42 No. 14356
>>14349 >I came across one anon who suggested making posters about the website in their university and thought it would be dope to include. any uni anons should do something like that time somebody posted a meme in retort to some neoliberal anti-communist nonsense at their school, but put the QR code on it
Speaking of which, does anybody have the screencap of that? I was sure I did but now I can't find it. It's the one where some college conservatives do the "haha you don't like socialism yet you use an iphone" and the reply was a printed meme with the different modes of production where the ruling class was mocking the working class and saying "check mate" in different ways. The slave society one had a Roman patrician going "Checkus Matus"
junko !!9cfznBf./Q 2021-10-28 (Thu) 17:19:49 No. 14357
Is there a way to submit to New Multitude without contacting on Twitter? Not certain I'll write yet but want to know if there's another option
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 17:34:29 No. 14358
What happened to the webring?
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 17:39:05 No. 14359
>>14358 They weren't interested.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 17:46:39 No. 14360
>>14352 > I convinced the others to let me do things my way this time. you are aware that the fact a different mod is doing it does not mean posters are engaged and have ownership over it.
specifically what do you say to these posts
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-10-28 (Thu) 17:57:26 No. 14361
>>14360 >you are aware that the fact a different mod is doing it does not mean posters are engaged and have ownership over it. At the very least, you can't say we didn't try.
Pfft, whatever, man. If you really think that will somehow increase traffic here and go do it then.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 18:02:18 No. 14362
>>14361 >At the very least, you can't say we didn't try. what? yes I can, how have posters been engaged in this in a way they have ownership over?
but you will delete any threads like that
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 18:09:42 No. 14363
>>14362 >how have posters been engaged in this in a way they have ownership over? I told the moderation team to not interfere with the process.
Only if this thread somehow finds a conseus that it will somehow work.
Also Sage, this is my last post playing ball with you. If your next reply to this thread is harping on this issue instead of actually discussing the topic at hand. I will ban and delete all your posts. I am not as tolerant as the other mods.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 18:15:57 No. 14364
>>14362 Forgot to put your trip code back on after samefagging, sage? We all know how in every thread you got BTFO in you try build false support
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 18:43:45 No. 14365
For now we need contact with russian commies, go to /ussr/ and promote there and open a VK account and start posting russian memes.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 18:47:12 No. 14366
>>14365 These are the suggestions every time and that's that. Like that is the only thing that happens someone suggests them.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 18:48:42 No. 14367
>>14363 Okay so my suggestion is posters be allowed to create matrix rooms, fbi.gov’s etc of their own and to be able to advertise them here. I think this will help outreach and build a network of communities- you could for example have an anarchist sub community, Leninist sub community etc, which can coalesce on the board. It is easier to coorindate outreach from these also, anarchists can bring anarchists, Leninist can bring Leninist. Also means the whole thing that happens where you say you are doing outreach to some community and some particularly sect throws a tantrum because it’s not their sect and so on
>>14364 scroll up the thread you will see no trip nut job Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 18:50:05 No. 14368
>>14365 I agree (yes this is me from the post above so you know I’m not samefagging)
The emphasis should be fun. People pretend it’s a super serious theory board but it’s not. It is fun though. We should play to our strengths.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 18:54:09 No. 14369
I will be one to try rather than be another defeatist loser with a "why bother" self-fulfilling prophecy mindset.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 18:55:28 No. 14370
>>14369 >site date site data
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 18:56:47 No. 14371
>>14369 me samefagging again This is a good mentality. I think it basically impossible to coordinate such a thing actually on the board though
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 18:58:33 No. 14372
>>14369 >The rest is just logistics. which is the only thing that matters.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 19:03:03 No. 14373
>>14369 >Those communities which have aligned values and sensibilities should be prioritized. We also want to avoid ruining the site with woke-scolds and triggered liberals. So the first problem is identifying these groups. Alternative strat: poach people who are disaffected with wokescole communities. It worked on 8chan with calling anybody who didn't like /pol/ a /leftypol/er. Not that this one doesn't work too.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 19:18:44 No. 14375
>>14374 This is just veganism tho. Jannies on here already log IPs. Nobody is doing crime. If we want the community to grow we should use what is popular. Why not both, if people are concerned with security they can use matrix if not they can use soenrring else
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 19:22:20 No. 14376
make sure to post "go back to leftypol" when you see people making good arguments
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 19:25:54 No. 14377
>>14360 >people should be able to post fbi.gov’s >>14367 >posters be allowed to create matrix rooms, fbi.gov’s etc of their own how bout no
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 19:38:38 No. 14378
>>14375 >If we want the community to grow we should use what is popular. Do we want the general audience or do we want communists? We should be cultivating people who are privacy conscious. Also it's not like everyone posting here is rawdogging it without a VPN or anything.
>>14369 >Note whether there is any correlation between a given recruitment campaign and site traffic or other site metrics. Yeah this. Don't do any of it blind. Try to gauge the effectiveness of any attempts.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 19:44:28 No. 14379
>>14378 >Do we want the general audience or do we want communists? We should be cultivating people who are privacy conscious. Most communists are not privacy conscious.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 19:46:27 No. 14380
>>14378 The general audience. As communism is a mass ideology.
Also the majority of communists I would say don’t use privacy tools. The majority are not internet retards
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 19:49:42 No. 14381
A better way to get users would be to spruce up the cytube a bit so it gets people posting here, maybe with a banner getting people to post on leftypol>but everyone on the cytube already posts on leftypol! and nobody even uses it anymore!
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 20:24:59 No. 14382
>>14375 >This is just veganism tho. Jannies on here already log IPs. Nobody is doing crime. If we want the community to grow we should use what is popular. Why not both, if people are concerned with security they can use matrix if not they can use soenrring else What kind of retardation is this, privacy isn't about crime, it's the only sane default. And the other thing is, you should not build dependency on proprietary corporate platforms, that's just unreasonable behavior. It's very suspicious that you are trying to normalize using corporate spy platforms, it's even more suspicious that you are trying to associate using more secure alternatives with crime or annoying dietary preachers.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 20:34:36 No. 14383
>>14369 >5 year plan for an image board with 30 regular users Based
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 20:48:42 No. 14384
>>14349 i think advertising with posters is a great idea! a very welcome change from floods of redditors or 4channers, can a larger image of the QR code be posted? i'm no good at making posters or designs though
also we should open up a /pol/ embassy for fun
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 21:22:59 No. 14385
>>14365 >>14366 >open source vidya tournaments I literally would have done this myself if I weren't in the least active time zone and asleep when people post.
Living on a spheroid earth is suffering.
Fuck it, I'm going to open up a timing poll for this weekend to trial the idea. And if you don't like the timezones I offer then make your own damn tournaments.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 21:34:54 No. 14386
Ignore the trolls
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 21:40:34 No. 14387
>>14386 i don't think it's just pol tourists and neolibs, but people who are too used to chan culture (which can be quite elitist and exclusive)
but we're leftypol, we should be trying to incorporate as many people as possible rather than wanking off our dying userbase
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:03:17 No. 14388
>>14386 I wrote out a long reply but then realized OP pre-emptively banned it
Good site btw, will definitely promote it
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:06:33 No. 14389
>>14388 >I wrote out a long reply but then realized OP pre-emptively banned it What?
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:10:53 No. 14390
>>14389 The OP doesn't want any discussion of moderator policies under threat of ban, like how they made /siberia/ a dead board. Or how they said they wouldn't ship off political threads to dead boards, hours before sending the squid game thread to /hobby/.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:15:56 No. 14391
>>14369 >I don't have access to site date, but it is always helpful to have quotas and numbers. We need a five year plan. I do have a decent amount of data. I think we need a six month plan. Online sites are pretty volatile and literally weeks will make and break a site, as we've witnessed before.
(Full disclaimer, this metric can only be loosely approximated; IP count is not a reliable proxy of user count due to shared proxies [lowers count] and highly dynamic IPs [raises count]. Additionally, the site now blocks Tor clearnet exit nodes which lowers the IP count)
I estimate we have around 300-450 users per day (IP count is at 400 per day). Pre-coup numbers weren't much different, my data only goes back to June but the IP count peaked in Peru election and SOS Cuba protests, and when 4chan changed their captcha or had downtime. During those times would be getting closer to 500, otherwise is was about 0-50 more depending on the time.
I think a goal of 500 IPs per day (25% increase) by mid-2022 is reasonable, achievable, and puts us in an alright position for the USA mid-terms which will surely provide an influx regardless of what we do. Recent IP count rate of change suggests the site would reach that by February provided nothing major happens, but I suspect some of that is user recovery rather than user discovery.
An interesting note is that the stats are demonstrating steady growth for most of the time, but major negative events can push some users away for a couple of weeks, so we're not seeing it climb far at the moment. Things like the monthly high-volume /pol/ raids can be countered by staff recruitment and (to a small degree) technical countermeasures, so the drops should become less severe.
One thing I'm always cautious about is optimizing for a metric. For example, idiots falling for bait and having a heated shitpost argument of one line comebacks for an hour raises PPH notably, but it isn't a good sign in terms of growing a community. So while increased activity is usually a good thing, be careful when using it.
It also seems to me to be undesirable. Impersonal shilling is a turn-off, not a turn-on. Mentioning a thread here that's relevant to a conversation someone is having will creating interest and showcase value. Saying 'come to leftypol leftypol.org!' will get you deleted as soon as a janny wakes up. And for good reason. No-one wants that shit. It's spam, as in, the literal computer science definition of spam.
As for criteria 1, target people who will actually see value here and bring value themselves. What threads do we have that are valuable? I remember seeing a lainchan thread about DPRK media recently and someone brought up the fact that we have a thread about them that could be relevant. That's ORGANIC. It's not a souless invasion for personal gain, it's saying 'we talk about that topic often so you might actually enjoy looking at the thread'. I also think things like the OC and webm threads are great at grabbing attention; they're fun!
I appreciate your labor vouchers comrade, keep 'em coming.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:18:51 No. 14392
>>14390 Well go discuss it on /meta/. This is a short-term thread about embassies. Don't derail it with your gripes.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:22:10 No. 14393
i live in one of the most destitute towns of the UK and there's significant racial divide around here
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:23:11 No. 14394
>>14392 >/meta/ Another dead board to kill discussion
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:23:25 No. 14395
>>14382 It’s not. None of you are doing anything of note, and there is infinitely more usuability. This thread is about growing the board. Being behind 7 vpns is a larp that stops the board growing
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:24:29 No. 14396
>>14394 just fucking use the god damn overboard or get rid of it entirely
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:28:44 No. 14397
>>571798 >noooo why can't i just shit up the whole board with my unending meta takes
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:31:33 No. 14398
>>14396 I use the overboard but maybe we should float the idea of archiving all the boards, then merging them? The board needs some life breathed into it, it all feels a little stale. Like we have a very good gun thread on /hobby/, but it doesn't get replies anymore. For some reason gun threads are allowed on /leftypol/ too, but posting about political entertainment gets shipped off to /hobby/ where it dies, it's incoherent and we don't create enough threads to warrant the number of boards.
I would post about it in /meta/ but it's another dead board, I feel like /meta/ exists to kill off site discussion but this logic isn't used when it comes to niche topics, where it's vital it goes there to revitalize the topic.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:31:46 No. 14399
>>14397 Discussion of the board is healthy if you want a good board. Do you really think we’d have to have threads dedicated to growing the board if it was in a good state?
These problems are holistic. It’s all well and good doing outreach if when people get here it’s a shitheap.
People like engagement, they want to feel part of something. You don’t feel part of something if you are constantly maligned just for talking about the place
<tinyboard ban message></tinyboard> Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:33:08 No. 14400
>>14399 >Discussion of the board is healthy if you want a good board >Do you really think we’d have to have threads dedicated to growing the board if it was in a good state? >These problems are holistic. >However fair warning, pivoting to other bullshit like >>REEEE Jannies are ruining this board with XYZ Anon, I…
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:33:12 No. 14401
>>14381 could do weekly scheduled movie night and make a 24 hour propaganda pirate radio
vote on films to drive engagement
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:35:49 No. 14402
>>14400 That doesn’t change any of what I just said. You haven’t made an argument or a proposal or anything at all. I haven’t even mentioned the jannies. I didn’t even think you were a janny. I really don’t know how you intend to grow the board if you don’t want people to talk about it
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:36:48 No. 14403
>>14401 As a cytube regular who never went to movie nights I have to say happenings are the lifeblood of cytube, but there are functions of apps to detect various happenings footage, like I think the big streaming from your phone site (yeah I'm boomerbrained) offers a global map of people livestreaming which with a few tweaks I'm sure we could stream from. Maybe it's streamable? I can't remember but I remember during the Turkish Crisis I was pinging around a map watching people run around like crazy.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:38:49 No. 14404
>>14402 I'm not a janny (I thought you were lol), I think they're unintentionally strangling the board's potential with a series of ill thought out short term decisions, the reply is mocking the idea that the issues require a holistic approach in a thread where discussion of site policy is banned.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:39:17 No. 14405
>>14403 We easily have enough people that we could line up scheduled cytube viewing like once a day for 2 weeks, just somebody assigned to press play and bump a thread, doesn’t matter if it doesn’t get a huge attendance at first, if people know it’s there they can gradually gather
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:39:42 No. 14406
>>14404 >I think they're unintentionally strangling the board's potential with a series of ill thought out short term decisions Like?
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:44:56 No. 14407
>>14398 >it's incoherent and we don't create enough threads to warrant the number of boards I think the other side of that coin is that the conversations that would be on the /alt/ boards would get pruned from /leftypol/ in mere days. It's also worth noticing that many of those topics benefit from slower conversations and being out of the /leftypol/ shitposing stream.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:47:23 No. 14408
>>14404 Ah okay fair enough
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:50:32 No. 14410
>>14406 I was absent for whatever the fuck they did to kill /siberia/, but that. They also promoted Infrared and then banned all discussion of him when someone posted crypto-CP because of a service provider email, whereas someone like Space_ wouldn't have given such a kneejerk response (like when he let a C&D from LabUK sit in his inbox for a week and then posting it for us to laugh at). Sites like this have always had such incidents and they're always filed away once a response citing the reasonable response time is given
I used to moderate a chan in the 00s and people would constantly spam CP to shut the site down, you just have to be reasonably able to fight it. This is an example of a string of short term decisions making a complete mess.
And the most recent example I can give is that the squid game thread was moved to /hobby/ after a mod just a few hours earlier said that political threads about topics wouldn't be sent to dead boards. This is a very minor instance but it happened just yesterday so it helps reinforce a pattern.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 22:58:52 No. 14411
>>14409 <3 Thank you. Slap a "leftypol.org" or QR code on there and put them up if you see any appropriate propaganda like that one anon did. Maybe we could make more generic leftypol posters for similar purposes.
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:00:16 No. 14412
>>14410 Let me tell you a secret, the people on the mod team that 'promoted Infrared' and were there defending him to the last breath were primarily Zer0 and Zul. We tried to compromise on the issue as best we could but eventually it got to be too much and yes we cracked down hard. That was one of the things causing tensions behind the scenes.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:03:24 No. 14413
>>14407 True but this is supposing the discussions are more valuable to leftypol in their own little ghetto boards than in the larger board, I would argue that it's better to have a higher churn of threads with higher interaction if you want to grow the board. Maybe the discussions themselves are better but is the board livelier because of it?
When leftypol went through its most intensive period of growth it was moderated by one guy and the churn of threads was massive. Ideological diversity was massive, and people were digging up all sorts of obscure texts to compete with each other. Now it feels like people just bicker over the most boring things imaginable with little to back any of it up.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:04:31 No. 14414
>>14412 It was really not just them. Are you really telling us that just these two dictated the entire mod like on infrared?
You have votes by majority which means a majority of you were there supporting him to start with and then banning all mention
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:10:21 No. 14416
>>14413 IMO leftypol saw its most growth in the early period when there was this ideological diversity, people were constantly reading and sharing texts, and the effort posts that were made here were spread around the internet via companion sites on facebook and elsewhere.
I still see people posting that screencap on harry potter and liberalism even years later. If it had a leftypol attribution on it millions of people would have seen and shared it by now.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:25:09 No. 14417
>>14416 Exactly, during this period the board had minimal moderation and it benefited greatly from it. But the issue is complex, is the internet still the same as it was back then? Is it possible to have such a light hand in matters to moderation? This is one of the most important questions we have on leftypol. We've gone from <0.3% moderators to >1%, a massive shift in the balance of power. But is it possible to recreate the past?
Math being 1/400 or 10/500 /siberia/ has been suffocated to death, making the functional difference between all boards that of topic, I think at this point we should just do away with these topic ghettos and merge them all into one. Many of these threads in the ghettos don't contain anything unique that couldn't be posted on leftypol, and we are depriving the site of fast discourse that has built up the board to begin with.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:29:32 No. 14418
it would be cool to have a twitch collective where we could share the streamkey but idk how we would keep out pollacks
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:30:50 No. 14419
>>14414 Fair point, it was not just those two, but from what I remember, all four of the splitter mods (Zul, Zer0, Coma and Watermelon) were pro-Haz. The only reason we managed to get rid of him was that Coma changed his mind when the CP stuff happened and we used that as a reason to force the change through while we had momentum. The mods who remain on this site are all now anti-Haz and most of them were from the beginning, so don't put all the blame for that 'flip-flop' on us.
Also, people like Sage or this poster
>>14410 seem to simultaneously be mad that we didn't immediately ban Haz, but at the same time are mad that we eventually did ban him, because they started to enjoy having him as a lolcow no matter what terrible effect it was having on the board, and the fact that he was as happy as a pig in shit with that kind of deranged mudslinging. Everyone who mocks Haz just enables him by talking about him.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:32:49 No. 14420
>>14417 >Exactly, during this period the board had minimal moderation and it benefited greatly from it. It benefited from people that were willing to do the work and put in the effort to make quality posts and productive conversations. Moderation increased in response to people coming in to wreck the board, which they often did because there weren't any mods around to keep Checkers or other /pol/tards from sliding the board into oblivion.
If you want to encourage ideological diversity then the first place to start would be getting rid of "general" threads. They're where ideological diversity goes to die.
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:35:02 No. 14421
>>14420 > It benefited from people that were willing to do the work and put in the effort to make quality posts and productive conversations Yeh and these people liked the free form and left when it stopped being that
No moderation increased when old BO che went completely insane. Any other narrative is simply a lie
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:36:40 No. 14422
> If you want to encourage ideological diversity then the first place to start would be getting rid of "general" threads. They're where ideological diversity goes to die.
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:39:26 No. 14423
>>14422 >>14420 Generals are not a perfect solution and we recognise that, but what is the alternative? Without them, more than half of the board would be clogged up with various American/Chinese related topics which all basically follow the same patterns. At least with generals, there is room for unique questions to survive.
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:39:54 No. 14424
>>14410 >This is an example of a string of short term decisions making a complete mess. The issue isn't that there was a service provider response. It's mainly the drama that surrounded the topic; constant raids getting to the point of child pornography (or pictures intended to be perceived as such, it doesn't matter) being posted on multiple websites because of it, along with many users spamming doxxing posts and calling for raids. A temporary topic ban was considered appropriate (albeit too late) de-escalation. What do you think should have been done instead?
>>14410 >And the most recent example I can give is that the squid game thread was moved to /hobby/ after a mod just a few hours earlier said that political threads about topics wouldn't be sent to dead boards. This is a very minor instance but it happened just yesterday so it helps reinforce a pattern. I agree.
I think this should be discussed on /meta/, not to 'send it to a dead board' but to get a cohesive, focused, discussion on this issue instead of derailing a competing topic. In short, I think the inherent issue of timezones+volunteer hours compounds the poor organization which results in communication issues between moderators online at different times. Now that raids and drama have settled down to non-emergency levels, we should be utilizing the Congress chat for these types of decisions instead of making solo calls.
>>14414 I wasn't there at the time of the 'supporting' votes, but looking at the public archive, there were two votes (Feb, March), both passing by a tight margin, to restrict Haz to /itg/. I wouldn't call that supporting it, just not deleting it. To me, that would seem like a silly thing to do, just banning all mention.
And then banning all mention, two months later, was an unanimous (7 | 0) emergency vote after CP and doxxing. Even the so-called supporters agreed with that vote.
>>14417 This touches on interesting points. I think one thing that has to be asked is: does the site have the same purpose as /leftypol/?
/leftypol/ effectively lived off the fame of 8chan. It was an 8chan board for discussion of topics that were banned from 8chan /pol/. It hit its peak in about 2017.
We are in a post-8chan world, and people, The purpose of this site is poorly defined now and I believe different people have different, contradictory answers.
Taking the report queue, /meta/ and the Congress chat as guidelines (and I recognize the issues with this), there are many users who expect quality from this board, to actually, thoughtfully discuss socialist ideologies. Who think anything reactionary should be banned, and anyone /pol/ or bad-faith at all should be removed. Effectively '/leftypol/ - Leftist Politics'.
Then there are others who take this place as, well, a leftist /pol/. You get fast paced fun discussion and more diversity of discussion at the cost of people calling you a transfaggotkike instead of rebutals and your threads getting derailed, with low-quality, high-activity threads dominating the board and 5 "I'm a NatSoc AMA" threads. This is probably closer to the original 8chan board.
I don't think there is a cohesive view of this, anywhere. The closest would be the site manifesto and constitution, and literally who even looks at that?
I actually did read the whole thing. Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:41:45 No. 14425
>>14398 >I use the overboard but maybe we should float the idea of archiving all the boards, then merging them Not a terrible idea, more work for the jannies but who cares
Anonymous 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:45:28 No. 14426
>>14423 Like I said I think generals should be there just also the ability to post outside of generals if you want.
Thing is the Chinese threads are often the same. You could have one entire thread just for arguing about “is China socialism” and another for Chinese foreign policy, another for news, that would be fine. These are important questions. As for burger stuff I think it’s good to share news from all over the world
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:46:50 No. 14427
>>14419 >The mods who remain on this site are all now anti-Haz (Actually I just don't give a fuck about internet trash and therefore don't care about haz shit, I just saw it as a temporary necessity to de-esacalate for site security.)
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-10-28 (Thu) 23:54:05 No. 14428
>>14426 (Not that mod) I think this touches on an idea that maybe generals shouldn't be 'everything (USA|PRC) goes in here'. For things like mainstream politics news (Biden did a thing, AOC said words) or happenings (ten Afghan threads) then yes, a general becomes good at preventing a flood of crap, but there are other events and topics that may warrant an independent thread.
But where is that damn line? I don't know. And right now it's kind of a rapid decision process; you shouldn't just merge it once it's 50 posts deep so there's pressure to make fast decisions on those borderline threads.
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-10-29 (Fri) 00:40:10 No. 14429
Last warning to remain on topic or be banned.
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-10-29 (Fri) 00:55:41 No. 14431
>>14398 >maybe we should float the idea of archiving all the boards, then merging them? that has basically been understood as an impossible option, one the mod team will realistically never take. it only pleases a minority of posters who, largely, don't use those boards, to the detriment of a good number of people who actually do and enjoy them.
Anonymous 2021-10-29 (Fri) 01:20:21 No. 14432
>>14430 Nah, put a picture of Alunya on it.
Anonymous 2021-10-29 (Fri) 03:18:10 No. 14433
mods should just clean all the non-relevant posts of this thread so we can get back on track smoothly (including this one)
Anonymous 2021-10-29 (Fri) 03:52:03 No. 14434
>>14418 It might be better instead of sharing a stream key among many people to have an official twitch channel with very few operators and make use of the hosting features to share the channels of other users, but sorting out how to do that kind of thing warrants a much more in depth discussion snd community feedback.
Anonymous 2021-10-29 (Fri) 03:59:41 No. 14435
>>14434 I personally am against trying to make more and more 'official' channels. It doesn't need to be official to be great.
>>14418 Unironically, apathy will keep them out. Unless they know to look for it, they won't get it.
If there's a non-public way to manage it (e.g. a Matrix/element chat room, or does twitch have DMs?) then that would work too. Worst case, reset the streamkey and reshare it.
Anonymous 2021-10-29 (Fri) 04:03:49 No. 14436
>>14431 >a good number of people to me it looks like most boards are nearly dead. almost every thread was imported from another iteration of the site so theres no continuity and you can't ask people questions or get (you)s from pre 2020-12-20 posters. You just end up replying to ghosts and necrobumping.
Anonymous 2021-10-29 (Fri) 04:05:06 No. 14437
>>14435 Right, that's what I'm saying. If there's an official Twitch instead of consolidating people using one official channel, ise that channel to promote affiliated channels or just people that the userbase likes. There are other smalltime leftist twitch streamers and promoting them and interacting with them can bring more attention to the site. Better use of the social network than a single channel that doesn't connect as much to others. Connectivity is a bog deal to the algorithms and to people's eyeballs.
Anonymous 2021-10-29 (Fri) 04:07:46 No. 14438
>>14435 Yes, official implies the mod has to approve or be involved. Which opens a whole can of worms.
Might as well keep things unofficial.
Anonymous 2021-10-29 (Fri) 04:59:00 No. 14439
>>14376 thats funny as fuck, great idea
Anonymous 2021-10-30 (Sat) 02:01:54 No. 14440
Anyone here heard of 16chan? They have a literal /fascism/ board
Anonymous 2021-10-30 (Sat) 07:06:42 No. 14441
>>14440 >16chan >competition lmao, their /fascism/ died after anon.cafe booted their crying asses. It's literally WN + wehrabooism; if more than three of their users had actually read Mussolini I might respect them.
picrel: our alt boards have more activity than their whole site. Their competition is /mlpol/.
Anonymous 2021-10-30 (Sat) 08:58:38 No. 14442
The best way to recruit is going to be raids. That's how imageboards grow. Anons aren't going to get involved in elaborate plans that requires any effort on their part. At best you will get a small group that falls apart in a week. You need simple plans that are zero effort and lets the autists here spam their shitty memes. You have to lean into the strengths of imageboards.
Anonymous 2021-10-30 (Sat) 15:35:21 No. 14443
>>14442 Why do what /pol/ does to us? We would be infamous then.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-10-30 (Sat) 16:51:46 No. 14444
>>14442 This is true hut mods don’t want us raiding apart from that one time with the chinjack meme. I think we should raid /pol/ with the infograph showing they are pedos personally, reboot it by combining with the chin Jack, put some leftypol stamps on in
off-duty 2021-10-30 (Sat) 22:23:53 No. 14445
>>14444 At the end of the day, the real issues are:
>having dedicated 'let's raid [x] threads' that validate /pol/s paranoia >threads that are obviously false flags made by /pol/ for /pol/ The only reason its a big issue is that our userbase is relatively small (big for an English altboard, but not comparable to a board that averages (not peak, average, and
super duper overrepresented by burgers) 5,000 PPH. There's already a constant baseline of raids and complaints about post quality, so it makes sense for the site not to officially encourage a /leftypol/ raid, at least at this point in time.
But you can shitpost on /pol/ regardless of what I say. I ain't your momma. We already had a couple of former users try to bait /pol/ by false flagging as leftypol.org so it will probably be fine if you do it 4reels. Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-10-30 (Sat) 22:46:07 No. 14446
>>14445 The point is the organisation though, doing things together
Anonymous 2021-10-31 (Sun) 10:17:18 No. 14448
>>14444 >>14445 I didn't mean raiding /pol/. That's a total waste of time. We should raid sites outside of the imageboard space.
Anonymous 2021-10-31 (Sun) 10:25:49 No. 14449
>>14448 >total waste of time that's an understatement
the obsession (by some people, I pray for some of them to get over it) with a place several hundred times our size is actively harmful.
Anonymous 2021-10-31 (Sun) 11:43:50 No. 14450
>jannies desperately want more people to lord over
Anonymous 2021-10-31 (Sun) 12:37:11 No. 14451
>PEOPLE ARE LEAVING!!! …WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE HAVE LIVES OUTSIDE THE INTERNET?!
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-10-31 (Sun) 16:57:15 No. 14452
>>14448 We should raid a variety of targets the beauty of /pol/ is they have very little defences and are easily triggered. The chinjack is proof of concept
Anonymous 2021-10-31 (Sun) 18:27:09 No. 14453
>>14452 No we shouldn't you moron, then they'll just raid us harder then ever and the board will go down the tubes.
Anonymous 2021-10-31 (Sun) 20:06:47 No. 14454
>>14453 May I ask you, for how long do you think their raid will last. I thought that the poljak one only lasted a few days.
>>14452 Personally I think that it would be better if we find a way to stick it to Agent Kochinski.
There is a pretty large group of leftist who dislike him, and I think that if we manage to start some drama with that CIA asset, we'd be able to get some of them to post here.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-10-31 (Sun) 20:19:48 No. 14455
>>14453 Like the chinjack raid made the board go down the tubes … oh wait… t didn’t…
Anonymous 2021-10-31 (Sun) 20:45:45 No. 14456
Appealing to disaffection towards liberalism is a better strategy than galvanizing hatred toward the right. This is true as a pitch for this site as it is a general approach in current politics. Liberalism is the first obstruction that must be removed to consolidate the left.
Anonymous 2021-10-31 (Sun) 20:47:59 No. 14457
>>14456 >>14456 > Many leftists find all this talk of safe spaces and safe words and racialist identity politics distasteful and counterproductive ***yet they have no means to escape conversations dominated by it, so they begrudgingly go along with it and suppress their disagreement.
Anonymous 2021-10-31 (Sun) 21:30:23 No. 14458
>>14454 >Personally I think that it would be better if we find a way to stick it to Agent Kochinski. easiest way would be pay to viewbot him in an extremely obvious way and mass report it
Anonymous 2021-11-01 (Mon) 14:38:39 No. 14460
>>14456 Problem is many people who are 'alienated by political correctness' etc are just massive reactionary dickheads. Just look at stupidpol.
Anonymous 2021-11-03 (Wed) 03:53:43 No. 14461
>>14456 >Appealing to disaffection towards liberalism is a better strategy than galvanizing hatred toward the right No reason not to do both; however, I couldn't agree more on the rest.
Anonymous 2021-11-03 (Wed) 13:49:51 No. 14462
>>14456 Please tell us, what actions should we take towards such a strategy?
Anonymous 2021-11-03 (Wed) 22:22:53 No. 14463
>>14456 There (appears to be) a necessary balance between 'political incorrectness' and stupidity. I'm not claiming they are they same whatsoever. Absolutely not. But there is a point where /pol/ 'da jews' becomes an instant derail and the site can't fucking resist low-tier bait and will let any thread get derailed over it.
So at what point does controversial reactionary takes become incompatible with a reasonable quality standard?
And again, there are politically incorrect leftist stances which are allowed, but the above is something worth thinking about. Our ban on idpol tends to omit many, but I suppose removing idpol rules is off the table as it's a core principle of the site.
Anonymous 2021-11-04 (Thu) 00:12:50 No. 14464
perhaps a temporary element chat for those actually interesting in participating would be a good idea? if such is done, it should also be put into the OP so people can see it easier rather than letting it get clogged up by other messages down here
Anonymous 2021-11-04 (Thu) 12:31:50 No. 14465
>>14442 >what has already been done and has lead us to this point of relative weakness, historically and recently, is what we must always do jej, like 99% of our recent recruits aren't from raiding efforts, and we went from like 200 people at the death kneel of 8chan to 600 odd people now (daily IP wise, as an average) and as per most people asking them, they aren't from /pol/ or whatever, they just came ambiently from word of mouth. raids are dead and useless cause our opposition in /pol/ is all braindead manchildren which haven't had a critical thought in their head for years, and they aren't about to start. chans overall are slowly dying, so looking beyond our own backyard is something of a necessity.
Anonymous 2021-11-04 (Thu) 13:11:51 No. 14466
>>14465 >to 600 odd people now fucking janny reality manipulation must stop. there are not 600 different people visiting this website every day. if that were true, there wouldn't be two active boards on this website. unless all 600 are lifeless losers who don't read or go out but spend their time watching anime, playing video games and making memes
Anonymous 2021-11-04 (Thu) 13:20:37 No. 14467
>>14466 and before you post a screenshot of statistics or peepee or whatever, remembered that you never explained how IPs and posts are counted, so the numbers are meaningless
Anonymous 2021-11-04 (Thu) 13:20:59 No. 14468
>>14466 it varies day-to-day but its usually like roundabout 400 IPs to roundabout 600, with slumps and highs that mostly correlate to irl happenings or lack thereof. we don't have any way to look at the density of posts distributed through different threads but most of it is concentrated in cyclicals, which is why its not as reflective on the front page. using the overboard also usually shows decent health with the alt-boards, usually there being like 5-10 decently active threads (relative to alt-board standards) which vary on the alt-board subject.
a good example being star wars and avatar being big threads cause of the Mandalorian and the netflix release of the avatar series leading them to having a few pretty good threads, activity and quality wise, which have now gone into a lull without new content. there are a few which are slower overall but really consistent (like the HEMA thread with like 4 or 5 dedicated anons) but they are there and alive. they cater to niche audiences to which activity changes relative to content available a lot of the time, its not really the kind of activity which is easily reflected in PPH stats. but the goal of alt-boards is more fostering communities that PPH to begin with cause its just always a good idea to diversify a little bit, and relative to their predecessors on 8chan they are a lot more active than before, which is generally seen as a pretty good win.
Anonymous 2021-11-04 (Thu) 20:53:07 No. 14469
lol there are like 10-30 of us posters at max depending on time of day. i wouldn't be surprised if everything else was bots
Anonymous 2021-11-04 (Thu) 21:24:24 No. 14470
>>14465 Stop conflating IP addresses with people.
Many users have constantly changing dynamic IP addresses due to ISPs cycling them. Many users are on the same IP address. It's a loose indicator.
>>14467 >you never explained how IPs and posts are counted, so the numbers are meaningless A post is counted when a user
makes a post .
You can also count/average this yourself by getting ([last current post number] minus [post made [x] hours ago] divided by [x] hours).
IP count is the number of unique IP addresses that
made posts within the given timeframe. An important note is that the Total column used to just sum the counts on each board, so if 127.3.2.1 posted on both /leftypol/ and /hobby/, it used to count as 2 in Total. Now it counts as 1.
>>14469 Which, if they're online for an average of one hour, would be 240-720 per day.
Anonymous 2021-11-05 (Fri) 03:36:06 No. 14471
>>14470 >Many users have constantly changing dynamic IP addresses due to ISPs cycling them. Many users are on the same IP address. It's a loose indicator. Many users also use the TOR node, which only counts as 1 IP, or end up having a shared local IP. We don't just use IP, we also look at PPH and other more obscure measurements as well to try and keep a general idea of overall board health.
Though, this topic is divergent from the main thread one, so I'll just leave it at that.
Anonymous 2021-11-08 (Mon) 01:11:57 No. 14533
>>14529 >how to subvert /leftypol/ <engage in arguments with anons who already know every nazi trick in the book <try learning some Marxism to debunk them amazing reverse psychology, Israeli vpn user
Anonymous 2021-11-08 (Mon) 22:32:19 No. 14562
Hi, I'm an ambassador from another site's embassy. I posted a thread here: >>>/siberia/174289
Unique IPs: 49