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 No.15632[Last 50 Posts]

 No.15634

So what's the deal with this thread:
>>>/gulag/271
https://archive.ph/R7eeX

Looking at the logs, m00dy keeps moving spam posts there while all the other jannies just delete it. Most of the posts in that thread don't even look like spam to me, although I guess it could be samefagging.
Could we get some clarification on that thread's exact purpose?

 No.15643

>>15634
just another way for mods to compartmentalise and bureaucratise the board according to their arbitrary whims

 No.15644

>>15634
me again from >>15643 having gone through, its literally all posts complaining about the mods and all their bullshit lmao.

This is what they label as "spam" i.e. people having legitimate concerns about them as people and their absolute shit moderation policies and personalities in general.

How petty, how fucking disgraceful. How can you honestly with a straight face consider yourself a normal individual and good at what you do when this is how you act. Not only that but a socialist, a socialist with the qualification to silence and destroy other socialists based on your conception of "quality" there is literally no rhyme or reason to it, they feel personality insulted and this is a measure of quality. Only, they should be insulted, regularly, because they are not the highest quality of poster, but literally the dumbest, most petty and least qualified, you can tell because they applied to be mods, which they inevitably did because they got triggered so hard over and over again they decided instead of getting smart, doing research, having a better response, they would simply remove their interlocutor.

Classic opinions havers. Disgusting. All jannies, bastards, dirty bastards, every single one

 No.15645

>>15644
>having gone through, its literally all posts complaining about the mods and all their bullshit lmao.
That's what I thought as well. IMO spam would be things such as soyjaks, /pol/ copypastas, scam links and other shit like that. The posts in that thread don't strike me as being spam at all.

Judging by the fact the mods haven't responded to my post yet, it must be something they would prefer not to talk about. Isn't exactly a great start to the new moderation thread lol, the first inquiry gets completely ignored.

 No.15646

>>15643
>>15644
calm your tits sage. /gulag/ is somewhere we can shunt off posts which are enough to need stopping at the moment but ambiguous enough to debate if they should be just deleted, banned or whatever. in the case you outline it was some leftychan spammers trying to agitprop all over the place, so they were removed from proceedings and we debated on their banning (ultimately, they were given a short ban for off-topic bellyaching). its also sometimes used to hold example posts for known spammers so that mods get a good idea of the kind of content they should look out for, especially the newer guys that don't really know the esoteric bullshit some of these morons get up to.
>>15645
that stuff is so unambiguous there would be no reason to shunt it to /gulag/, its more for edge cases and keeping examples of dedicated spammers.

 No.15649

>>15646
>in the case you outline it was some leftychan spammers trying to agitprop all over the place
Just out of curiosity, how can you even distinguish between leftychan spammers and genuine criticism from anons?
To me it looks like all posts that shit on the mods get deleted or gulaged.

 No.15650

>>15649
A narrow set of talking points, fresh IPs with no prior posts, a proclivity to do "multi-front" spamming (usually in the matrix congress), and to boot they will usually end up screencapping their own fucking posts and posting them on their site lel. really they make little effort to hide it when you have the sort of birds eye view we do. thus its usually easy to sort out actual site users and direct them to a suitable place to lay out their grievances rather than go down the schizo rabbit hole.

 No.15654

Jannies are scumbags, these are the same people who nuked bunkerchan afterall. A lot of us make it a point to use "fresh IPs" because you people constantly make it known you're profiling everyone here and softdox people all the time.

 No.15656

Jannies should propose a party line for the site and let people vote on it and then start banning entire IP blocks and service providers for posting idpol bait. /r/genzedong unironically has a better mod team and and principles than this site, while supporting minorities and teaching reactionaries why idpol is bad.

This will improve discussion by giving regular posters principles to rally around and beat down tourists with the same answer and it will decrease the number of threads where 9/10 posts are reinforcing divisive identity nonsense like "all women are" and "all black people are".

The best functioning period of leftypol is when a polconvert posts bait and 20 people call them a retard and tell them to read the same book. There are too many bad faith posters and new people that have no idea what leftist means and it is fostering an environment for more of them to feel comfortable posting which in turn attracts more of them on and on forever. Effort posters are going to completely stop posting if every effort post is met with 3 replies of "marx was a gay jew lol".

If nothing is done the site will be overrun(more than it already is).

 No.15657

>>15650
>fresh IPs with no prior posts
You shouldn't penalize anons for posting with fresh IPs. I have always posted with tor, and used a VPN for images because of opsec (also partly this >>15654 ).
>proclivity to do "multi-front" spamming (usually in the matrix congress), and to boot they will usually end up screencapping their own fucking posts and posting them on their site lel.
Did the posters in that gulag spam thread do any of this?

 No.15661

>>15657
>I have always posted with tor, and used a VPN for images because of opsec
TOR users are fine, we only ever have issues with TOR from spam
likewise we don't tend to have false-positive bans, its happened but its rare. we aren't talking like "oh the IP has a handful of normal posts and then some insane person posts", most of the time it is literally all posts surrounding their hysteria.
>Did the posters in that gulag spam thread do any of this?
Yup.

 No.15662

>>15643
>>15644
>>15645
>>15654
Mods have done a good job, wreckers can go suck a fat one.

 No.15663

>>15662
>Mods have done a good job, workers can go suck a fat one.
this! fuck workers, uphold leftypol-PMC thought!

 No.15680

Don't shoot!
I am a perma-ban evader, I have so many bans to my name that I have lost count.
But I would like to hand myself in, nobody needs to get hurt here. Are we all going to be calm about this?

 No.15694

>>15656
>The best functioning period of leftypol is when a polconvert posts bait and 20 people call them a retard and tell them to read the same book. There are too many bad faith posters and new people that have no idea what leftist means and it is fostering an environment for more of them to feel comfortable posting which in turn attracts more of them on and on forever
Do you feel this is a moderation issue, or a cultural issue?
I believe issues like these are best solved by taking the effort to foster a better user base and creating memes within our society. Ideally, mods shouldn't need to be anchoring shit threads to make the board half-decent, but the current meme is '/leftypol/ always eats the bait'. That's a shit culture we have and we know from history it can be changed to better handle the inevitable invasion spikes.

 No.15707

>>15694
How do you propose that the culture be changed without mod intervention?

 No.15709

>>15707
be one of those 20 people calling them a retard and tell them to read a book
tell others who take the bait to just call them a retard and tell them to read a book

 No.15711

>>15656
>Jannies should propose a party line for the site and let people vote on it

Wouldn't that destroy the entire purpose of leftypol, ie to be a nonsectarian discussion forum?

 No.15712

File: 1640773265794.jpg (360.76 KB, 1080x950, IMG_20211229_112010.jpg)

why the fuck are you removing this post from the covid thread?

 No.15713

>>15712
bc it's retarded beyond reasonable bounds

 No.15714

>>15713
what? it's a copy pasted article…

 No.15715

>>15714
It is decidedly not and I don't know why anyone would lie about that.

 No.15716

>>15715
I linked it in the post, you retarded reddit mod.

 No.15717

>>15716
but you also made your own commentary which is retarded beyond what can be reasonably tolerated.
you have me convinced you have some actual, unironic brain issues now

 No.15718

>>15717
>but you also made your own commentary which is retarded beyond what can be reasonably tolerated.
wtf? this is an imageboard, not reddit. is it about the flag? so the person using the Egoism flag in that thread is a janny. jesus, you fucking flagfags and tripfags are insufferable, you have turned this place into a reddit clone.

 No.15719

>>15718
I don't remember using the covid thread

 No.15720

and I don't use flag
go and stay go

 No.15721


>>15646
>/gulag/ is somewhere we can shunt off posts
yes you don't want to have to deal with people talking about your shit decisions we know.

> in the case you outline it was some leftychan spammers

its been like a year you can't just blame everything on this.

>>15656
The most retarded post possible.

This is a non sectarian board, of course you genzedong redditoid fuckwits don't get that, and literally cannot resist the urge to turn everything into some redditoid idpozzed anime dengoid hellhole.

>This will improve discussion by giving regular posters principles to rally around

good in theory except the mods, and every poster who supports their decisions, are, provably, complete retards.

The mods who brought you Haz, now dictating a party line. Fuck off.

>The best functioning period of leftypol is when a polconvert posts bait and 20 people call them a retard

I agree, the only good part of your post. Mods have banned this function of the board since forever. These are the people you are saying should set a party line.

People naturally call reactionaries retards if you actually allow them to do it, it doesn't take the eternal jannoid micromanagment.

I don't care what you or the jannies opinion of this is, because it is not correct, not factual. We used to do this on old leftypol all the time, literally every day, and it worked. Again, your opinions on the matter, if they disagree, are simply not correct.

>here are too many bad faith posters and new people that have no idea what leftist means

this is subjective, the mods don't know what leftism is, they allowed a guy who was virulently anti union to spread his bile and censored countering opinions.


>>15712
>>15713
Leddit mods at it again. Can't even post the guardian now lmao

 No.15725

>>15711
There are issues that all leftists agree on. "leftypol" and "nonsectarian" means crypto-reactionaries can freely lie about what leftism is to drive out people they don't agree with. The rules should reflect real world tendencies and not cede space for made up internet meme shit from political compass reddit and laurouchite cults.

 No.15726

>>15725
We already don't allow crypto reactionaries, for example unironic "nazbols", this site is still non sectarian and enforcing an official line would kill the site. Join a fucking political organisation irl instead.

 No.15727

File: 1640890692337.jpg (155.58 KB, 1777x507, sex thread.jpg)

>>15632
What rule did this thread break?

 No.15728

>>15727
just culling the number of sex-related threads since there is too many

 No.15729

File: 1640896963579.jpg (70.91 KB, 640x640, ybn65.jpg)


 No.15731

Mods, please address my feedback here:
>>>/siberia/199615
>>>/siberia/199617

 No.15732

Request #2:
Board-specific infinite scroll

 No.15733

Request #3:
Being able to filter boards (this has the usage of overboard(s) in mind, so for example say I use sfw overboard: I filter /games/ let's say)

 No.15735

Request #4:
Add "filter by flag" to the Post menu

 No.15736

Request #5:
Add a darker tone to "Anonymous" when it's a saged post when posting with the default theme "Dark Red".

 No.15748

File: 1640931426452.png (2.36 KB, 236x27, ClipboardImage.png)

For future reference, put proposals in the proposals thread, not the moderator feedback thread.

>>15731
I suspect some hacky changes to the board software made the assumption that an OP post has an image. If that's not the case, then I think it will be a good option to have. Please repost to proposals thread so we can vote on it.

>>15732
I can add it as a feature request but at this point in time it would be so low in the backlog that I doubt it would happen any time soon (significant effort for minor quality-of-life improvement).

>>15733
Already exists, picrel.

>>15735
Good idea, I didn't realize people used that menu. In the meantime, filter by flag is available in the options menu.

>>15736
This could be done, or an underline. I was wondering if it was significant as it's basically a de-facto invisible sage but I don't think it's an intentional anti-feature.

 No.15759

>>15748
>it's basically a de-facto invisible sage
Actually the name text appears bold when the post has an email/sage.

 No.15810

MOOOOODS THERE'S CP ON THE /LEFTYPOL/ BOARD

 No.15839

>>>663856
>>>663856
>>>663856
>>>663856

why the fuck have you locked this thread you stupid motherfuckers?

 No.15844

Why can't the moderation go back to what it was like before the split in august?
The site was so much better then.

 No.15845

>>15844
It's better now, since we are rid of most of the schizos except those that come here to raid

 No.15846

>>15845
I don't think it's better now. There are still regular users who are very toxic. The schizos have never bothered me either, they're often funny and aren't very subversive.

 No.15848

why does the /itg/ thread seem like it's filled with newly converted /pol/tards

haz was a mistake

 No.15849

>>15662
Bootlicker

 No.15850

>>15650
Literally just a bunch of lies.

 No.15851

I did this .gif just to test what's the retardation behind the China spammer, and it seems I got an obvious response is an anti-China sperge.
My guess is he's trying to get China word banned or word-filtered. Just in case.

 No.15852

>>>/tech/12813
i made a typo in the last line, it should be "Let the ruling classes tremble"
can someone fix it

 No.15853

File: 1641426278671.gif (620.49 KB, 320x180, bs ps CHYNAH LICK.gif)

>>15851
woops, wrong .gif lmao

 No.15860

>>15839
answer me you fucking pigs

 No.15863

>>15860
it was probably a /pol/ bait thread or a leftychanner raid

 No.15867

>>15852
sorry, meant "Let the ruling classes tremble at a communistic secure chat client!" in full

 No.15869

>>7694
>Honestly the inner drama among moderation on this website is way more dangerous than any polcel raid
blame that on the leftychinlets

 No.15871

Not sure if i should have made a thread for this but it's so straight forward everyone would agree. Why hasnt leftypol used an Invidious or Piped embed instead of YouTube's embed?

 No.15872

>>15871
If you click [Proxy] button next to the embed, it uses a proxying invidious instance.

 No.15873

Please archive >>>/leftypol/534394

 No.15874

>>15872
Seems to not be working for me. At least on Android. I just see some videos with a broken proxy bracket

 No.15878

>>15863
>>15869
just blame absolutely everything on outside intrusion and have zero self critisms

where have I heard this before…

 No.15879

>>15873
Ok but it's not full until 610 posts

 No.15880

>>15878
When one side is the one raiding and the other one is just trying to ignore their existence and do their own thing then it absolutely is only the fault of the raiding party.

 No.15884

>>15880
you are so obsessed you can't even see that isn't what I'm talking about.

The post in question clearly wasn't a raid post, it was a popular post lots of anons contributed to.

To just hand wave every shit mod decision as "um… leftchan???" is ridiculous

 No.15885

>>15884
cope pedo

 No.15886

sticky QTDDTOT

 No.15887

we need less stickies

 No.15889

>>15887
fill the entire first page with stickies so people are forced to use the catalog

 No.15893

>>685805
>>685805
>>685805
why is this saged???

 No.15895

>>15893
>>/USApol/

 No.15904

>>15887
I haven't looked at a sticky for months. do people actually not hide them?

 No.15908

Dear mods: If my comments are not welcome on this board, just ban me forever. But please don't delete random comments of mine all the time. In the China thread, you have deleted alot of my arguments. I tried to convince the dengists, that you can't kill covid with fire and I explained to them, how to kill professionally insects with fire. Now my comments are gone and I am still here.

 No.15957

Why can't we talk about the Jews here? Personally i'm looking to be proven wrong yet what is the point of discussion if it's deleted and censored? It's not even like we're talking about exterminating them, i posted clips from Henry Ford's International Jew and it was deleted. How can you be prove your side is correct if you wont allow discussion on said topic.

 No.15959

Why do you delete any thread that mentions the transgender aspect of the mods?

 No.15960

>>15959
Probably to convince you that they are trans humanists
The truth is they aren't trans It's far worse than that

they are furries

 No.15961

>>15960
Can't you be a degenerate elsewhere?

 No.15967

>>15960
I think it's good to have jannies who are sexual minorities. Considering that a disproportionate number of leftists are queer, it's fair that they should have greater representation in the mod team.

 No.15973

is the website getting POST-bombed, everytime i post it glitches out and lags

 No.15974

>>15973
I dunno, got the same thing

 No.15975

>>15973
Also there is maintenance

 No.15976

>>15973
Ongoing database-intensive maintenance. The server is doing a few hundred thousand operations because I told it too, should be finished in a few minutes.

 No.15978

>>15967
>considering a disproportionate number of leftists are queer
The left isn’t your polecule stop treating it as such

 No.15979

File: 1642352166622.png (18.72 KB, 711x526, siberia ban.png)

Hey, what the fuck is this?

In the comment I was banned for, I was asking why the thread I was commenting in kept getting posted and deleted - but that thread is still up and my comment is gone, which suggests that someone just kept randomly deleting my comments from that thread for no apparent reason. I thought the thread was being deleted and reposted, because I didn't see my previous comment in it get deleted and the thread seemed to "reappear" when the next person posted in it. I was the first person to reply in it (and apparently have my reply deleted immediately) and nothing I posted was particularly awful (especially considering it's a thread about gay toxoplasmosis in Siberia and I'm not the OP) so nothing about this makes sense to me.

I have no idea what this is about. I seem to just be getting my posts randomly purged for no reason based on some weird narrative that only the mod who's doing it understands. I didn't complain about anything, I wasn't even sure at the time if it was my posts or the OP's that were being deleted. I'm complaining now only because I've been asked to go over here and do it - and also because this honestly is fucking dumb.

 No.15980

>>15979
the original comment was something like "yeah but why is [different thread] being deleted" which is quintessential derailment, which as you noticed was deleted. Then after a few more repetitions of this I opted for a ban. As I said in the original ban I still don't know what your precise issue (tho I can guess) is but I can't really have it all over the place.

 No.15981

>>15979
>>15980
Making rational decisions again I see moderators

 No.15982

>>15981
thanks buddy

 No.15983

>>15980

I literally only asked about the other thread once, and I still don't know why that thread was deleted seeing as it was in the same ballpark as the gay toxoplasmosis thread. Did my anime HRT thread get heated? I never even saw any replies to it. I posted it, came back later and it was gone and then Shay posted her gay toxoplasmosis thread.

My only other posts in the toxoplasmosis thread were asking why the toxoplasmosis thread was being deleted and reposted, which for all intents and purposes was what it looked like since I was the only other person posting in it and my replies were being immediately purged for reasons I could not comprehend. At that point I wasn't even aware you'd deleted my first reply to that thread, which was the only reply I'd made asking why a thread with a similar topic had been deleted. I genuinely thought you were just deleting threads left and right and that Shay was rabidly reposting her thread since I didn't (and still don't) have any idea what sort of logic you were using to discern which threads would be preserved and which would be deleted. It just looks random.

 No.15984

>>15983
Well, are you aware that threads get "un-bumped" when the bumping post is deleted?
That story (while I am highly skeptical) makes enough sense that I will undo the ban.

 No.15985

>>15984

Thanks!

>Well, are you aware that threads get "un-bumped" when the bumping post is deleted?


Dimly, and if I had been paying super close attention I could also have tried to glean whether it was the original Shay thread based on the timestamp (but I didn't and I don't do that), but given my vaguely similar thread was deleted shortly beforehand I assumed it was as likely that the same thing was happening to Shay's thread.

 No.15986

https://leftypol.org/siberia/res/206346.html

why is this locked? We can't talk about lifting now? What the fuck is wrong with you people honestly

 No.15987

>>15986
Checking now. Unanchoring until I get a response.
My guess is it was a dumb kneejerk reaction to the poljak OPs made at around the same time.
>We can't talk about lifting now?
Of course you can. Do us all a favor and bump the lifting thread in /hobby/.

 No.15990

File: 1642383451145.jpg (260.56 KB, 1113x1080, fat.jpg)

lmao why was the dragon maid thread on /anime/ deleted? i saved the pic

 No.15991

>>15990
Logs say it got moved to >>>/siberia/206660 . (I try and ask why if you dispute)

 No.15992

>>15991
it wasnt my thread but i dont see why the hell a janny would move an anime thread out of the anime board

 No.15994

>>15990
>>15992
Mods are on a holy quest to keep the side boards completely barren.

 No.15998

>>15994
Go to leftychan if you want to see what barren looks like.

 No.15999

>>15998
Ok janny.

 No.16000

>>15998
What good is PPH if certain topics are banned and censored?

 No.16001

How can I get a tripcode?
Sick of people pretending to be me

 No.16002

>>15998
>everytime someone says its bad here I will simply go
>muh leftychan
Look at reddit, its fucking awful, and that is what you people are doing, except on reddit there is abundant posters, where as here its low poster numbers and also you can't freely discuss things. All round bullshit.

Nobody else cares about leftychan anymore so i know you are a snivvelling little janny self simping. Disgusting

 No.16003

>>16001
Go to kekma.net and add your password and name to the trip database, more detailed instructions are also there. Then you just put your name and password in the 'Name' field when making a post.

 No.16004

>>16003
Okay, but seriously

 No.16006

>>16001
Ok. Figured out how to do a trip. This is my trip from now on.

 No.16007

>>16003
Thank you. I don't think I'll register though.

 No.16008

>>16006
that's funny
godspeed

 No.16009

File: 1642513214464.png (3.07 KB, 500x250, Oekaki.png)

>>16006
>>16007
Genuinely what’s the point of pretending to be me instead of just countering my arguments?

 No.16010

Is this how?

 No.16011

>>16010
Reported.

 No.16012

>>16011
The mods can already see both of our IPs literal retard

 No.16013

>>15990
>>15991
wasn't my moving it but I'd imagine it falls below the standard of the purpose of /anime/, IE actually discussing shows, less so shitposting about them (or at least keeping the shitposting within the relevant show's threads).

all of the alt-boards are meant to be more high-quality than what you'd find on 4chan's /a/ or whatever equivalent stands for the board in question. they are less just "the board topic" and more "the board topic with a leftist bend/perspective".

 No.16017

>>16006
another faggot is born.
>>16012
thank fuck for that, eh?!

 No.16019

>>16009
lurk moar or fuck off.
the point of an anonymous culture is that your identity isn't relevant to your argument. you're just inviting people to mock you when you try to whore for attention.

 No.16029

>>16019
I only got a trip because this guy was copying my flag to not counter my arguments
>Oh muh holy chan culture
I don’t care chan culture is pathetic

 No.16030


 No.16031

>>16029
no-one cares about your arguments now lmao

 No.16032

Did you seriously ban me for the meme, despite knowing I was the original eco-socialist flag, jannies?

 No.16034

>>16032
I unbanned you. Now silence fake eco-socialist.

 No.16035

>>16034
MODS = GODS

 No.16037

>>16019
listen mod, you don't get to talk about chan culture when you ban people you don't like for saying things you don't like

 No.16047

There is justified racism, specifically against anglos, please do take this into account, thank you.

 No.16048

>>16037
Quick, recite the original rules of /b/.
>>16047
No, merely because the race isn't why they are retarded.

 No.16049

>>16048
I don't think you need to believe in race stricto sensu to be racist. For example I don't believe in it but I can not really shake the feeling there is generally something missing in anglos that normal people have.

 No.16050

>>16048
>Quick, recite the original rules of /b/.
I think it was uh, if a mod doesn't like what you say its not allowed

 No.16051

>>16050
true even if you have no way of knowing that

 No.16066

the fuck was I banned for?

 No.16067

Somebody tries to create drama with a fabricated tweet in the itg thread and probably sockpuppets.

 No.16068

>>16035
This x9999

 No.16071

I understand that you have to ban known spammers, however banning discussion from regular nazis isn't helping your cause, you must engage them if you want to get through to them, some people are on here looking to be proven wrong. You're fighting a losing battle since almost all image boards are right wing, and you can't afford to be exclusive.

 No.16073

seriously why the fuck was I banned for making the claim that women don't like abortion? How is that controversial?

 No.16078

>>16071
Mods are stupid radlibs they simply don’t understand this. They hate all leftist opinions that aren’t their own uneducated and stupid ones even

 No.16079

oh no, not the nazis

 No.16081

>>16071
They only come here to spread pol brain worms. They are not open to considering leftist politics. The fact they were banned in the first place means that they were probably ban evading or breaking the rules to get a ban. They are not allowed special treatment. If it was up to me they wouldn't be allowed here at all.

 No.16082

>>16078
>nazis
>leftist

 No.16083

>>16082
they aren't even trying.
how embarrassing!
>>16081
This is the usual progression of any rightoid here. 90% of them get themselves banned by essentially chimping out (they always end the same way it's really weird) in short order. The remaining 10% is there as background noise making snarky comments.

 No.16084

>>16083
The point of this post, which I forgot, is that figuring out these 10% (more than likely far less) is not a high priority. Whether form (spam) or content (naziism) is banned makes in practice little difference. Just an interesting bit of trivia.

 No.16098

>>16082
I wasn’t calling Nazis leftist lmao, I was saying the uneducated Twitter head YouTube brained mods can’t even tolerate other leftists never mind some rightists.

 No.16100

>>16098
jessewhatthefuckareyoutalkingabout.jpg

 No.16108

>>16100
They can’t lol. You aren’t allowed to have threads about sex work which is a huge topic with two distinct and strong sides among leftists. They cannot tolerate certain kinds of discussion

 No.16116

I have been banned for "spam" for 4 weeks and it doesn't even say which post its in reference too.

I wonder who could be behind this….

 No.16125

>>16108
There is only one leftist position on the topic. The other "side" would be more suited to posting on /pol/ or /leftcel/.

 No.16127

>>16125
This is complete insanity. Is revleftradio Brett o shea an incel or polyp? He’s abolitionist. Stalin was abolitionist. Kollontai was abolitionist. Cuba has a mixed system. There are actually loads of positions what is wrong with you. Aside from that, the general public, the masses believe many different things about it

 No.16128

>>16127
>authoritarians wanting to control women's bodies
what is this meant to prove exactly?

 No.16134

>>16128
>authoritarians who want to control women’s bodies
You mean people that purchase sex surely?

Or sorry are you saying in fact Stalin and Kollontai and Cuba aren’t leftist and that should the boards official doctrine enforced by the mods?

 No.16136

>>16128
Also what you’re saying being against sex work is authoritarian which is why you are banned from talking about it? Lol.

What does China do with sex workers by the way?

 No.16140

>>16136
>What does China do with sex workers by the way?
Chinese porn is easily available so clearly nothing.


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