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 No.16074

tripfags and namefags latley are out of control. It's ok to have a couple but now they are shitposting everythread with their faggotry.
This is what happens when you let boards like /siberia/ run free

 No.16075

>>16074
this is what happens when the only justification for action mods use is "muh chan culture". so tripfags retort with "trips have always been a part of chan culture" and that shuts the mods right up because they're too young to remember HOW trips were used in the early stages of chans. hint: not as usernames, but so that you could identify an OP of a thread if it is required, like when someone with deep technical knowledge is explaining something. the OP was supposed to throw away the trip after the thread was done.

this instagram/SoMe generation that makes up most of the mod team and most of the users, doesn't know of an internet that isn't tied to a username or your real name (fb, google, etc.). they don't know what it's like to visit a website and not be required to login via google or your email/phone number. conversely, since they are used to the dopamine hit from fb likes, twitter hearts and retweets, instagram whatevers, they think you need an account for the drug to work. they haven't realised that (You)s have been added for this very purpose, and that you get the same dopamine effect from (You)s to an anonymous post as you do from a facebook like on your personal post.

now we get to the crux of the issue: does getting a (You) as an Anonymous user release the same amount of dopamine when getting it as a tripfag'd user?

 No.16085

The quality of the site has been not very good lately. This is plain to see.
>>16074
It's a known issue. But consider their specific pathologies, they get worse when they do not wear their name. I think the vast majority of them should just be filtered by everyone. They are hyper online so you have to think about efficiency a bit maybe.

 No.16086

>>16074
See >>>/tech/13118 to enhance your leftypol experience.

 No.16087

could always force anon

 No.16092

1. Encourage reading by promoting reading groups and coordinating site wide reading clubs.
Eg. This week we will read chapter 1-5 of x, have both fiction and non fiction options simultaneously.
2. Force anon on /leftypol/.
3. Next roulette topic, creative writing, to get people writing.

 No.16093

>>16075
>this instagram/SoMe generation that makes up most of the mod team and most of the users, doesn't know of an internet that isn't tied to a username or your real name (fb, google, etc.). they don't know what it's like to visit a website and not be required to login via google or your email/phone number. conversely, since they are used to the dopamine hit from fb likes, twitter hearts and retweets, instagram whatevers, they think you need an account for the drug to work. they haven't realised that (You)s have been added for this very purpose, and that you get the same dopamine effect from (You)s to an anonymous post as you do from a facebook like on your personal post.

If that's true how come we don't all run around with trips then?

 No.16094

leftypol quality varies wildly but holy shit have the last few weeks been unmitigated cancer.
I hope that anprim poster gets laid/finds a job soon

 No.16095

>>16087
yes, force anon and have trips that only work in one thread.

 No.16096

>>16092
Thought of new ones.
1. No porn threads except the bisexuality ones since it appeals to everyone.
2. No threads discussing pathologies of 4chan. No threads discussing 4chan in general. It is the most irrelevant place on the internet, filled with sick people.

 No.16097

>>16095
no name, only pure trip code to stop transferability into other threads,

 No.16101

>>16093
So you can post pretending to be normal users backing up your modding style.

He’s still wrong though. There is nothing wrong with tripping if you want to, the beauty is you can do either or if you choose. I would argue that if you have a serious political program or program for the board you want to get across, a trip can be helpful because people can generally identify where you are coming from. It also forces you to be consistent, you can’t just engage in gotchas and sophistry from whatever position you want. This adds to quality.

It is no coincidence that the people who hate trips the most are also the most toxic and dishonest posters

 No.16102

>>16101
if trips are normalized than this place may aswell be a forum

 No.16103

>>16101
>It is no coincidence that the people who hate trips the most are also the most toxic and dishonest posters
Surely you're joking.

 No.16104

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>>16075
>they're too young to remember HOW trips were used in the early stages of chans. hint: not as usernames, but so that you could identify an OP of a thread if it is required, like when someone with deep technical knowledge is explaining something.
not that anyone actually cares (following the conventions of the past internet ritualistically itself defies the spirit of the old internet…), but namefagging/tripfagging was rather common way back anon. i don't need to have even been alive back then to know this, there are tons of archives of ancient 4chan.
been anon posting more lately but might as well trip for this one

 No.16106

>>16102
Throughout the entire history of this board there have been trips. If people could get over frothing at the mouth the trips have either been 1) lolcows, which are a source of lols and therefore positive, or 2) autists and skitzoids who actually have a lot of knowledge and interesting takes. Which is interesting and a positive. Honestly most of the tripfags are fine. I admit, I’m a tripfag, and only Bee was really annoying. If people shit up Siberia who cares that is what it’s for. Some of the trip/identify fags like sabo are some of the best posters.

Basically, people just need to chill. If you don’t like trips don’t post with one. If you don’t like somebodies opinion well, it’s just words at the end of the day, words in an irrelevant forum after all

 No.16107

This and anglo control have so much potential it actually saddens me.
I'd propose a third measure which is allowing no one to post for more than 5 hours in a 24-hour period. These three put together would eliminate all problems the board has (the overlap between these three groups is extremely huge).
Otherwise
>>16094
>hope that anprim poster gets laid/finds a job soon
is the answer of normal people to this situation, which is just depressing. Without drastic measures there really only remains the hope they find something to do. This is the fundamental weakness of imageboards.
Consider someone who spends ten hours a day here is at least ten times as visible as someone who spends one hour here. Plus it does appear nearly every tripfag has mental problems which make them particularly obnoxious.

 No.16109

>>16107
It’s not the tripfags doxxing and harrassing people, making the board split and so on.

 No.16110

>>16107
This would all fall under simple cleaning. But there is a tendency of going the path of least resistance.

 No.16111

>>16104
no proof they used as persistent persona

 No.16112

REMOVE TRIP CODES.

 No.16113

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>>16111
yeah okay man im sure everyone just made up specific tripcodes and names just for the specific threads that got screencapped, that's totally not a retarded assumption
https://ia801307.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/27/items/4chanScreencaps./4chan_screencaps.zip
just clicking random images here brings up fuckloads of random tripfags and namefags.

 No.16114

>>16113
I don't think that is relevant at all. We should not blindly follow 4chan.
Instead mods should seriously think about the state of this place because it really is depressing.

 No.16115

>>16113
deboonkeeed

 No.16118


 No.16119

>>16101
>I would argue that if you have a serious political program or program for the board you want to get across, a trip can be helpful because people can generally identify where you are coming from
Which is the case for few trips and namefags.
Moslty is sex pest spamming.

 No.16120

literal non-issue considering anons are even more toxic overall

 No.16121

>>16119
So? If you don't like a tripfag you can even ignore them which you can't do with anons.

 No.16122

>>16120
Forgot your trip.

 No.16123

>>16121
C'mon you know discussion on image boards are very easy to derail and turn into attention seeking competitions.
Do i need 10 posts about tripfags sexual fetishes in a thread about geopolitics?

 No.16124

>>16121
also if you reason like that just fuck off to reddit

 No.16126

>>16120
They really aren't, it is scarcely possible to be more fucked up than the average trip /name fag

 No.16129

>>16119
>>16123
The better idea would be to get rid of horny posting and porn. Make a NSFW board if they must. Also I would push back a bit on that, it’s basically only shay who is a horny posting tripfag, most of the rest are in the autismo/skitzo section. Some are attention seeking radlibs such as bee but they are in a minority, about 1 quarter of the tripfags

 No.16130


 No.16131

>>16123
>>16124
Shay is funny and they wrote their own manifesto which is better than 99% of all posters on this site have done. Some of the others, sure I can take or leave, but there's no evidence that they're somehow the cancer killing the site

 No.16132

>>16131
If you see no evidence you aren't looking

 No.16133

>>16131
Yeh aside from the horny posting shay is fine also it’s mostly on /b/ anyway and they are not the only horny poster, many of whom are anons.

The tripfags in general are not the problem though. It’s the moderation. Always has been.

Certain mods Pasq have also deliberately tried to chase away certain posters such as king Lear because they don’t like their political views. They spoke proudly about it to other mods.

This is far more cancerous than simply being a vaccine skeptic

 No.16135

>>16133
This is true insofar as everything is a moderation problem as they have the ultimate power.
They need to fight the cancer far more resolutely.

 No.16137

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have a shoop from a long time ago
I think the issue was the ""containment"" incel thread

 No.16138

>>16135
They are the cancer though. The way to fight themselves is to step back and let people be, allow people to organise themselves and so on

 No.16139

>>16138
The board is on a downward spiral, non-intervention means death

 No.16141

>>16139
Yes, the posters must come together and intervene against the corrupt modocracy

 No.16142

>>16138
Classic sage wrecker shit.

 No.16143

>>16131
>they wrote their own manifesto which is better than 99
That shit was so cringe bro. Seriously felt bad for her

 No.16147

>>16141
>Do the heckin spliterino

 No.16148

>>16147
That was entirely a mod affair

 No.16149

>>16133
You are just buttblasted ever since you got banned and your posts deleted like 2 years ago

 No.16150

>>16149
Incorrect I have been buttblasted since oldBO che wrecked the board with his Rojava antics and other antics.

 No.16151

>>16123
We've had the same thing happen in the past. Why do tripfags/avatarfags/etc ALWAYS end up posting horny shit? Why is it always them forming those weird ERP / porn circlejerks?

Last time this happened we rounded up all the tripfags and shitposters and sent them to /leftytrash/, and they eventually split off the board. So much for the political part.

 No.16153

>>16151
>rounded up all the tripfags and shitposters
let's do that again
and shoot them

 No.16154

>>16150
you were born buttblasted, anyone can see

 No.16155

>>16074
Just ignore their post contents and tell them to kill themselves for tripfagging.
There is no reason why a community can't self-moderate. Leftypol like to fall into the 'of course leftypol takes bait' meme but it's just that, an illusion that has been demonstrated false at times.
Don't like horny threads or incel threads? Bump better threads with interesting content that promotes discussion and remind others to do likewise.

Relying on moderation isn't the answer, moderators shouldn't have to intervene to stop low effort nazi AMAs and yelling about da blacks at the top of the catalog. That's only a necessity because the community here overall is dogshit.

 No.16156

>>16109
Actually it is. There has been countless threads full with screenshots as evidence of it.

 No.16157

>>16155
pretty much this yo

 No.16158

>>16156
stop trying to do gayops and drink some warm milk

 No.16159

>>16155
also post in /alt/

 No.16160

>>16104
>Posts archived 4chan screenshot in a post about how frequent tripfagging was back in the day supposedly
>It doesn't defend your point with a single trip-post in sight
Galaxy-brain alert

 No.16161

>>16158
Keep fantasizing

 No.16162

>>16109
Any new tripfag is just a month away from becoming a modcuck at any given time.

 No.16163

>>16162
What did you mean by this?

 No.16164

I am once again asking you to do something about this shit

 No.16192

>>16163
I think he means that trips and namefags are buddies with the moderation.
To be fair is valid only for the most cancerous ones
>>16151
Actually this is true. If they didn't horny post at every occasion they would be more more acceptable, still faggots tho

 No.16201

>>16160
what is the functional difference between a namefag and a tripfag honestly.
(i am junko i dont feel like putting my trip on)

 No.16202

>>16201
tripfags less likely to get epica11y tr0lled like sage did in 2019ish? That was a fun thread anyone have an archive?

 No.16203

>>16192
>I think he means that trips and namefags are buddies with the moderation.
>To be fair is valid only for the most cancerous ones
they're all in the matrix chat, they use the same username there as they do on the board. it's fucking cringe. mods like the simps, it makes them feel important and powerful.

 No.16204

>>16201
Namefagging and flagfagging is way closer to anonymity since they aren't exclusive and like >>16202 is alluding to, it's easy to share or fuck around with
Tripfagging is a big difference due to creating a unique identity tied to a password (a rejection of anonymity)

 No.16205

>>16154
Yeh so buttblasted I see an opinion I don’t like and seethe hard enough to delete it oh wait..

>>16162
You were replying to me. Nobody hates the mods more than me, it’s a fact

 No.16220

>>16204
ok well i gave examples of old trips still so whatever.

 No.16221

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>>16203
Personally I've come to think mods banned soyjak because it offended their protegés

 No.16222

>>16201
Put it on on every board please people need to filter you

 No.16223

>>16101
>you can’t just engage in gotchas and sophistry from whatever position you want. This adds to quality.
>tripfag add to quality
lmao, how delusional
i wouldnt force anonymity, id just ban the retards using trip for their ego

 No.16224

>>16221
This is exactly why they did it. They kept getting soyjacked because they are soy. So the banned it. The best part is.. they soyjack people

 No.16225

>>16223
Make a counter argument. Who decides where the ego is? The mods? Literally every decision they make is a bad one. The only trips would be horny posters and everyone who wants to talk about politics would lose it


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