/meta/ - Ruthless criticism of all that exists (in leftypol.org)

>>21953
>The 1st world has to reach developmental parity with the 3rd world

meant to say the 3rd has to reach parity with the 1st but hopefully you get my point

>>21952
>>21907
You guys do realize dengoids are a problem on reddit and Twitter too right? In fact, I'd say dengoids are an even bigger problem on Twitter.

>The last coup was over a few different things at once, one of the mods (Zul) invited the tripfag sage and another non-mod into the staff chat (which included user IPs and dev details) without warning to be overseers or something,

it was to prove a point in some retarded argument, the mods really liked getting into weird petty arguments over running the site. also nobody could see the dev details or the IP addresses since matrix doesn't show you older messages, all i and sage saw were people soying out over each other and certain .org mods calling for eachother's purging, zer0 should've just given the main people involved in whatever the fuck the fight was about a timeout to cool their heads.

>>21966
also never found out why the mods got into the fight in the first place, kinda wish i did it was probably really stupid.

>>21966
>>21967
Zul and co were resistant to any attempts to improve board quality (for example the Haz ban), they persistently were claiming we had to allow shitty behaviour on the site because of 'muh Chan culture', and generally they were constantly causing drama, unnecessary 100+ message arguments, and huge stress. Zul also unbanned idpol trolls and other siteshitters without consultation with the rest of the mods even though that was made explicitly against the mod rules. Overall, their faction was usually in the minority yet couldn't deal with that fact so tried to browbeat everyone else into going along with them by causing drama and tantrums and refusing to adhere to the majority decisions. Worst of all, Zul and friends were running a seperate group chat (also made explicitly against mod rules) with the intent to get the mods they didn't like purged. Which in the end is what led to him being votekicked (he was the ringleader of all this). This is something we mods had the right to do according to the constitution which we all agreed to and Zer0 had no right to interfere (by the rules which we all agreed). That is why the coup happened when Zer0 (one of the Zul crew) removed all the mods outside of their clique and stole the site.

Moderation has been 100x easier and less stressful since Zul, Coma, and friends self-purged.

>>21966
It was a pretty big shitshow before the tards left, 'tis true.
>all i and sage saw
bad enough
information control
This is the fundamental problem I've been having, how did these fags get into leftism? Cause they've demonstrated they're both assholes and quite dumb. Usually you can be one of those things but not both to be any flavor of socialist. Best guess is they are "unorthodox".
>>21968
Ideologically, personally and tactically totally fucked. "I love friction, it's so cool". I watched House MD at 18 too, grow the fuck up.
Bad theory, bad outcome.

THE IPs AREN'T HASHED????????????????????????????

but for real though
If it's that easy for randos to infiltrate the modteam, then how about glowies?
Can the modfolks be sufficiently competent to defeat and gulag attempts of glowies at infiltration and takeover?

>>21976
Well, you decide for yourself. There hasn't been a infiltration so much as a chain of unfortunate events that escalated into retardation.
As long as I'm here It'll be alright I feel.

This is not a mod astroturf thread. Nobody thinks this is fake

>>21975
Honestly effective moderation with how targeted this site is by people with nothing to do all day and spammers would be impossible without being able to see IPs or significantly raising the requirements for posting. We always recommend everyone use the tor node or a vpn. Glowies could probably piece together your posting even if we hashed IPs.

>>21968
Yup and it is unreasonable to expect literal who hedoesitforfrees to clean shit every day and listen to criticism and try and take into account everyone's varying opinions about how moderation and site admin should work while also having to appease and clean up after dramafagging man toddlers that don't know how to follow rules or play nice with other people (let alone fulfill wny of their actual duties) while all around doing their best to make a toxic moderation environment that saps everyone's energy and willingness to volunteer under the pretense of being "anti-janny" (but more like drama-seeking antisocial behaviour). You can't make retarded impulsive fags with no team skills and several personality disorders moderators of any site and expect good results. It's frankly mind boggling to me that they managed to get selected to mod or last as long as they did, but this comes down to the immature former site admin pandering to them for the feeling of being in a highschool clique. I get the sense some of the users that initially played along with the shenanigans weren't necessarily the incel spammers and "nazbols" that were constantly getting banned, but rather saw the actions of this clique as giving the jannies some commupance for their obnoxious actions. Keep in mind however that these people are the same people getting in constant fights with the userbase and making dumb impulsive decisions that piss people off, like all the stupid bannings in the congress room and trying to interfere with banning literal spammers, while actually avoiding any of the tedious daily janny activities of cleaning poo and banning ban evaders etc, that the rest of us carried. It should come as no surpise then that the second they got their way they put the site through an asinine larp of their manic inner delusions, covering the site in stickies and banning dozens of random people they suspected of being former mods or gave them any criticism. When their plan immediately fell apart, instead of taking it as a learning experience and an opportunity for personal growth, they instead organized a dedicated thread and chat rooms to try and spam this site with all manner of gore and shock images as well as other things. Having achieved nothing they still spend every day coping and malding and seething at our every success. It's pitiful. I would just ask them, why bother? Just go do your own thing and get a life lmao.

>>22045
lol brutal

>>22045
But also consider how the second "split" was a result of the first (space had his tantrum, we had to get a server quick snap, zero had one, who was not properly vetted, to this day I don't know what the hell his politics was)
So yeah, we did fuck up but we were also a victim of circumstance.

>>21906

its hilarious how shameless they are.

>>21912
This is false. I am more anti NATO than any dengist. Most of them are pro Fujimori, Mujihadeen and Marcos via duterte.

>>21914
i would like it noted that I was asking both sets of mods to do something entirely different to this, ( a union with me and another anon co-opted onto the mod team to oversee its fair treatment) and was randomly added to the mod chat without prior warning or consent, (although I can't say I didn't appreciate it) then left on request after just a lil trolling around for fun, ( a light bit of fun I may add, considering the years of shit the mods have done to myself and others)

>>21936
its nice of you to acknowledge this. The .org gas lighting is off the charts insane. I can't decide if its very calculated or they are actually really really ill people and don't realise it.

>>21966
sup g

>>21967
as far as I remember there was heaps of very petty bullshit resulting in a lot of panty sand.

>>21968
>other side was bad
>we were only good
Its insane that you can write things like this you know that right. Literally only nut jobs think like this.

I'm sure things have been easier if its literally just your clique with no opposition at all.

>>21976
its almost certain its already happened.

>>22045
>and listen to criticism
you don't do this
>and try and take into account everyone's varying opinions about how moderation and site admin should work
you don't do this
> while also having to appease and clean up after dramafagging man toddlers that don't know how to follow rules or play nice with other people
this is who you are
>(let alone fulfill wny of their actual duties)
the less a janny does, the better.
>while all around doing their best to make a toxic moderation environment that saps everyone's energy
you do this
>You can't make retarded impulsive fags with no team skills and several personality disorders moderators of any site and expect good results.
which is why the results of this site have been on a downward spiral for years.
>It's frankly mind boggling to me that they managed to get selected to mod or last as long as they did,
they got selected in THE SAME WAY YOU DID LMAO

>>22056
Except for the last line this is utter drivel
you are such a victim, it's funny as shit

>>22065
oh and coma didn't get selected, he was one of space_'s boys but who cares at this point. This is only interesting if your hobby is investigating plane crashes. On the contrary most people here want to ownzone libs in debate. These people are essentially useless to anyone who wants to do things.

>>22065
Every part of it is true jannoid you are pathetic

>>22069
It doesn't matter, you are aggressively retarded. If you ever wonder about why things don't go your way.

>>22070
It does matter that you are deeply corrupt and that is why things go your way and are shit

>>22071
lmao, at least this had a bit of rhetorical flourish
bet this took a long time to come up with

>>22072
Nope it is basically intuitive to push back on your weird child like thinking

>>22073
this is also part of the problem
you are not really thinking but acting instinctively
have you ever thought through a problem, like beginning to end?

>>22072
You’ve literally admitted you were selected by self selection, selected by other retarded mods. You’ve never had a leg to stand on which is why all you can do is sink deeper and deeper into smug denial.

A joke.

>>22075
ok, let's say there may be retards but have you considered there is always someone more retarded?

>>22074
I laid out an entire plan to democratise the board. You mods deleted it, then blamed me for you guys having deleted it. Again, don’t bother to deny it, the screen shots have been posted over and over. You mods on the other hand act extremely reactively and regularly steamroll your own rules because a post hurts your sensibilities.

I can see I’ve rattled a nerve because you are doing the spiralling into smug abandon thing you guys tend to do

>>22075
Bruh your response was slower than normal for you

Not taking sides just calling score

>>22076
I have suggested a way in which the problem of mod retardation could be altered, start to finish. Several times. You deleted it as discussed. Go back to simping Haz… oh right.. yeh that was all leftychan apparently ahahahah. Delete this post now I have spoken the forbidden truth

>>22077
No, I was legit interested for a second
or I wouldn't ask questions
Again, I ain't a debatelord
trying to own people, over and over again
just repeating the same inane shit, I don't understand how someone can live like this
>>22078
we aren't in the same league

>>22078
Inb4
>it wouldn’t be representative enough which is why we should have zero representation and only mods should make decisions

And then
>it would be subverted, I know it because I tried to subvert it
Mods, incurably insane

>>22080
Nothing of substance in this post as standard

>>22081
Imma not a vol or mod sage

>>22083
oh btw fuck you, again
have a nice day

Mods displaying again their infinite capacity to come across like a child denied a new Xbox

>>22071
>>22085
Sage m8 I'm not even liked by some of the vols and I got what I wanted this weekend by asking in advance politely

Moderating may be white collar work but it's real work, a major risk factor for moderators is PTSD and the janguard do it for free

You don't have to agree with them just listen to what they say, They're human beings volunteering their time for some hard work

He'll apply to be a vol if you want to fix policy so much they're organized in Democratic centralism so you get in do your job and get to give some input as a comrade at the coal face

How about it? → >>>/leftypol/>>21964

>>22086
I mean → /leftypol/21964

>>22086
>>22087
Fug
>>>/leftypol/21964

>>22087
>>22088
booh you suck

>>22086
>Moderating may be white collar work but it's real work
JWERFs in shambles
>>22087
>>22088
bruh how do you not understand how this works lmao
>>21964

Sage → >>>/leftypol/21964/

>>22090
420 bruh you do the link

how? just how?

>>22090
oh btw I still have no clue what that means lol

@Sage goto → https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/1094923.html

>neckbeard
OP you are the redditor, you are the twittertard, and now your kind has hijacked leftypol congratulations.

It's like that meme about California. It's shit because of the people living in it, because it's shit they flee someplace else, doing it all over again.

In our case it's actually the case that fags like you have hijacked every cool place and subculture on the internet left because your own places, cultural products and memes leave much to be desired.

>b-b-but I was the oldfag!
And where pray tell were you during your absence? I think it's very clear from your derision of "neckbeards". That you did not acquire from leftypol, to be sure.

What can I say: congratulations! My alienation process is complete thanks to fags like you. The cool internet is on its way out, the only remnants being the friends I've made over the years. I pity the zoomers, I really do. They will never experience the joys of a bunch of humorous, ingenious and strange autists getting together and propelling shitposts to the heavens.

>>22142
nico nico neck yourself, neckbeard

>>22143
You will never be cool, faggot.

>>22144
wrong

I'm so fucking cool, your mom gets frostbite