DEBRIEFING: The Man Who Sold the World Anonymous ## Mod 2021-05-01 (Sat) 00:24:32 No. 6508 [View All]
TL;DR: bunkerchan is no more, any obligations newsanon or other anons had to consider for both sites are lifted. DISCLAIMER – for the purposes of internal security, pseudonyms will be used to protect the identities of those involved.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU2wBKoDOzg <Early April>>Through communications within bunkerchan’s matrix chat, it is revealed that Apollyon is enacting a plot to revive bunkerchan through means unknown. The moderation team and userbase speculates on possibilities. >The mod team begins to look at contingencies for certain possible plans of action and begins the work of forming a unified position on the matter of bunkerchan. <April 17> >Moderator Cybersyn is bantering with the general chat in the leftypol matrix about the possibilities of what Apollyon is up to. >During the conversation, Spartacus comes forwards to Cybersyn about information relating to the plan. >Spartacus reveals that Apollyon is looking to use an article published by Foreign Policy as leverage to negotiate with the leftypol.org moderation team for his entry back into the leftypol.org moderation team. >Cybersyn takes this information to the rest of the mod team. Knowing in advance what Apollyon’s plans are, the mod team drops all other contingencies and begins planning around the now-revealed plot. <April 18> >Cybersyn confirms several facts about Spartacus , including his position on the bunkerchan mod team and his loyalties to the community above all else. >Spartacus continues to give out details as they come as to Apollyon’s plot. >It is revealed that internally the remainders of the bunkerchan mod team (at this point, about 3 continually active members) were splintering over the decision. >Vagin-x , one of those last mods, announces his decision to no longer moderate in light of Apollyon’s decision. He will accept no reconciliation with leftypol.org. <April 19> >After confirming Spartacus’ intel, the mod team decides to look into recruiting them as a leftypol.org mod. >Spartacus is brought forwards for an interview. >Spartacus reveals an early draft of Apollyon’s demands. They were basically unchanged when they were publicly brought forwards. <April 20> >Spartacus is put forwards to a vote to become a moderator on leftypol.org. >Cybersyn and another mod Sappho edit down all information gathered thus far into a more easily digestible packet of information for distribution within the mod team. > Vagin-x urges Apollyon to go public with the negotiations when they occur. <April 21> >Spartacus is accepted into the mod team with an instant-pass majority (at this time, 5 votes). >Apollyon opens negotiations with the leftypol.org mod team. >The leftypol.org mod team had reached an internal consensus to hold their cards close to their chest and pretended not to know Apollyon’s complete plans. >The negotiations on the first day largely go nowhere. No side wins any concessions and negotiations break down into arguing. <April 22> >Negotiations reopen, the leftypol.org mod team delegates Cybersyn and Koba as the lead negotiators with Apollyon . >Cybersyn and Koba get Apollyon to agree to a precondition for all further negotiations – the transfer of the bunkerchan.net domain to one of Apollyon’s other active mods to keep the domain in neutral hands. >The mod selected is Spartacus . >Negotiations end on a high note, and Cybersyn and Spartacus consult privately on how to handle proceedings. >Spartacus agrees with a plot – either force Apollyon to fully concede and step down from moderation and be absolved of his wrongdoing, or Spartacus will redirect the domain of bunkerchan.net to leftypol.org and thus destroy Apollyon’s position and bargaining chip. >The plot is brought forwards to the rest of the mod team, and it is agreed to keep it as a course of action should favorable negotiations not be reached. <April 23> - <April 27> >Little action happens, the leftypol.org mod team waits for the domain transfer to complete between Apollyon to Spartacus . >Vagin-x begins publicly leaking details of negotiations to bunkerchan, and advertises his own board as an alternative to bunkerchan and leftypol. <April 28> >The domain transfer is confirmed as completed by Spartacus . >The mod team enters the final stages of the plot and begins to push the issue of Apollyon in the negotiations. >Several demands for Apollyon’s removal are made, for the sake of the site and to satiate public desires for his removal from power. Apollyon rejects all demands and holds that he will remain a moderator or the merger will not happen. >Seeing Apollyon will not concede, several late-night proposals are made for how to proceed with negotiations. <April 29> >Several of the proposals are approved and forwarded as votes, primarily dealing with how quickly the plot should be executed and how much information should be revealed to the public after the fact. >Apollyon is further pushed to concede by the mod team, and refuses all attempts. <April 30> >Several of the votes pass, including one to execute the plot and a vote to create this debriefing to begin with. >One final ultimatum is made to Apollyon to step down in the face of a public consensus against him. Apollyon refuses, and all negotiations break down. >The mod team enacts the plot, Spartacus is contacted. >Spartacus redirects the bunkerchan.net domain to leftypol.org. 144 posts and 31 image replies omitted. Click reply to view. Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 05:46:34 No. 6653
>>203556 Idk, it reads like bragging to me. The guy who called it narcissistic earlier kind of the hit the nail on the head. The entire tone just reads like "Ha we said we were gonna make this dumbass a mod and he believed us, and then we had his friend backstab him, what a LOSER"4th_international 4th International
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 05:52:13 No. 6654
>>203572 Jannies are low-tier posters who chose meme of the month to represent their pwning, and not a classic like
>>6618 Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 06:01:54 No. 6656
>>6595 >No, it wouldn't have. If anything, by consulting the users first regarding what was occuring in the background, more anons could have been brought around to understanding the context of the situation and thus make demands regarding change themselves, which would then at the very least legitimize the mods later decision to make a new board. By keeping everyone in the dark, we were instead left to piece together what was in all honestly a conspiracy. A conspiracy against a shit owner and his nepotistic clique, but a conspiracy still. The problem is that consulting with the users would look like a power play and encourage Space_ to counteract that with a play of his own. (Even if not a public one, perhaps one that would make it more difficult to move in the future.)
(In this case it's clearer that it went against the principle of user consultation, but you can view it as a clean-up operation on the split, continuing from the constraints that were happening there, rather than taking place in-and-on the environment of
this site.)
democratic_socialism Democratic Socialism Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 06:09:45 No. 6657
Would have preferred Apollyon have been brought onto the central committee to provide a voice of dissent and as a comfort for the bunkerchan hold outs desu senpai but this is an acceptable outcome
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 06:12:33 No. 6659
>>6657 Shut the fuck up, d011ars.
tankie Tankie Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 08:10:07 No. 6662
>>203677 Based retard pen
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 09:09:11 No. 6664
>>6653 The intention wasn't really bragging tbh, this was more just trying to bring an end to the cloak-and-daggers shit with a formal thread to disclose the happening. the fear was that if there was a redirect without us explaining shit, people would assume we brought on d0llars or something. it was better to have the official narrative out instead of letting speculation run rampant.
t. jannie
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 09:26:32 No. 6665
Mods are scum, I hope you all die painful deaths.
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 09:46:17 No. 6666
>dollars >appolyon >spartacus >cybersyn Why should I care who any of these people are or what they do in between hot pockets?
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 09:49:32 No. 6667
>Scummy admins expelled >Redirection achieved >Split finished HECKING BASED
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 09:55:41 No. 6668
>>203796 I'm ok with thatspurdo Spurdo
Dr. Pavel, I'm CIA 2021-05-01 (Sat) 10:07:47 No. 6669
>>203796 The REAL conspiracy is all of the drama being made up since the glowies infiltrated the mod team and needed an easy excuse to take full control to purge the old jannies :DDDfed Fed
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 10:49:15 No. 6671
>>6656 >you can view it as a clean-up operation on the split, continuing from the constraints that were happening there lmao this is the big problem with ogre, the OP was at least honestly gleeful about all the cloak and dagger backstabby shit they did, and then you get this "you can view it as" "you can think about it as" crap which is just lipstick on a pig
no you can't view it as a clean-up operation because ti isn't one, there's nothing to clean up, you're just engaging in wordplay to make it look like something other than what it is
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 10:52:55 No. 6672
>>6671 whats the problem with unifying the site?
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 11:06:49 No. 6673
So where are the people who came over from bunkerchan Show yourself
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 11:08:30 No. 6675
>>6673 I'm here, and I'm very very gay and a big stupid crybaby, also I have schizophrenia and a small penis
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 11:10:05 No. 6676
>>6673 They already got banned.
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 11:10:23 No. 6677
>>6671 the only reason i have hesitated to express similar glee is because i'm awaiting final confirmation that only one bunkerchan mod was allowed to come here.
i had written a fuller explanation (with lots of purposefully antagonizing use of the passive voice) but i will put it this way: so long as this site is undermined in any way by bunkerchan (including what may be regarded as petty reasons like SEO) and so long as bunkerchan is under its current administration it is fundamentally illegitimate, anything done to damage it can be justified on that basis alone. the only thing that needs justification is the effort expended.
democratic_socialism Democratic Socialism Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 12:04:14 No. 6679
>>6572 Avatarfags need to be banned ASAP
tankie Tankie Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 12:40:09 No. 6681
>>6680 They want to live out their power fantasies, they don't care about /leftypol/. Having more people to abuse is the only thing that matters to them.
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 12:54:57 No. 6683
>>6567 there was a pinned consultation thread not long ago
fuck off
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 13:47:21 No. 6684
>>6643 kek, you're a legend here's a (you)
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 16:59:35 No. 6685
>>6609 holy shit what an incel (who is also extremely wrong)
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 17:09:58 No. 6687
>>6680 No idea, I liked having every faggot on bunkerchan and not here. I don't care about your gay little SEO, jannies.
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 17:10:59 No. 6688
>>6680 Agreed so much, having two separate imageboards for two different audiences was completely fine.
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 17:15:34 No. 6690
>>6667 Just in time for mayday too.
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 17:16:55 No. 6691
>>6669 Actually we stopped the glowies from infiltrating the mod team.
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 17:22:22 No. 6693
>>6508 And none of these people will ever have sex
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 19:17:35 No. 6694
>>6680 What you fail to consider is that unlike other containment boards (pol to 4chan) barely anyone used bunkerchan at the end of it all
there's barely enough migrants to make a difference
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 19:27:18 No. 6696
>>6691 Sounds like what a glowie would say.
Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 20:31:38 No. 6698
>>6697 Link to full fight video?
posadas Posadas Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 20:34:30 No. 6699
>>6694 I think many users sincerely don't get this what with jannies and co and there autism about bunkerfags.
It is easy if you did not visit it since migrating to inflect the idea that it was still being used actively but only by ex-pol, incels, stupidpol, everyone who thinks jannies are larpy retards, etc, etc. so it is kind of understandable we will have lots of opinions like
>>6680 Anonymous 2021-05-03 (Mon) 18:54:10 No. 6701
will this thread be archived?
Anonymous 2021-05-05 (Wed) 04:29:28 No. 6702
Yo wtf is this shit Wtf is the foreign affairs article This is gay, I miss Bunkerchan.
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