The events. Krates ## Admin 2021-08-12 (Thu) 21:28:20 No. 7 [View All]
TL;DR : The "modocracy" is restored, we have a new server, adults are back at the helm, we want to do our best to avoid drama in the future, we are tired of this shit and have better things to do both IRL and on /leftypol/ (like actually moderating), coupers and wreckers are no longer in the leftypol.org modteam. We are working in getting the cytube instance back up. You'll find here the accounts of the events by the current members of the leftypol.org administration, the drama will be contained here as we are all tired of it and want to move on (while making the necessary changes for this not happen again). To the /leftypol/ community, You most likely don't know who I am as I have rarely posted with my moniker and modtag on the site, I never enjoyed the spotlights. I have been mod since Che (aka Old B.O.) stepped-down, admin in Bunkerchan and both admin and the domain owner (with regards to bourgeois law) of leftypol.org and presently on top of this the owner of the server hosting the leftypol.org domain and most importantly an user since 2015, having come to /leftypol/ from the "Marx Vs Stirner" threads in 4chan /lit/. If I am not mistaken I am the second oldest mod after our current sysadmin Antinous who has been in duty as mod for the past 5 years. I want first to sincerely apologise to the whole community for this pathetic display of drama and immaturity synthesizing the worst of the terminally online left. After all the event of the past years, especially since the infamous "Rojava" split, this community deserved a modicum of stability and it has been the opposite of that. Prior to the events that occurred a few days ago, last april of this year, I had stepped-down from my position of admin, at that time because of the behaviour of people in the modteam back then, some of which being now among the coupers, that had made for me moderating impossible. This behaviour includes secretly plotting to purge mods they didn't like, creating completely false and unsubstantiated accusations, an endless thirst for internal drama and the prioritisation of thereof over basic janitorial duties and finally their recurring protection of the worst schizoposters, thread deraillers and spammers of the site and their opposition against any harsh measure taken against them under the sake of some idealistic and liberal conception of "freedom of speech" (probably inherited from m00t's 4chan with the success to which we have all been witness). I, thus, in that context preferred to step down rather than leverage my position as Admin to get the wreckers out, this lack of ruthlessness to preserve /leftypol/ might have been an monumental mistake but what is done is done. Fast forward to 4 months later and one morning before going to work at 6am (local time) I discovered while browsing as a regular anon (being no longer in the administration nor being in contact with any of the mods since I resigned) that now the site was controlled by a junta of the very people because of which I had left, and the internal de facto abolished. I immediately checked the registrar account (which was still under my real name and real email) and changed the password, a last ditch effort to prevent the situation from descending into total chaos. I was therefore in exclusive control of the domain, once again. I, then contacted the people whom I fully trusted from the modteam, like antinous. They informed me of the abruptness and chaos of the whole situation and the complicity of the then sysadmin zer0-, who entrusted arbitrarily and unilaterally full power the worst wreckers. After a short exchange by email with zer0- after he asked me if I was in control of the domain (I will post my email response to him below) and seeing their lack of any goodwill to find any compromise, that every techie besides zer0- had left and the only mod left were mentally unstable, drama seeking, terminally online wreckers, we had decided me along the non-coupers mods (the actual majority of the modteam) to get a new server to which we would point the leftypol.org domain. I, once again sincerely apologise for this pathetic drama and sad series of event and the great disruption caused to a community that helped me forge my political consciousness and made me discover many authors and perspectives. We, the old-guard of mods, bear responsibility, as the wreckers were all mods recruited relatively recently (none of them are were mods in the 8chan era) and brought in by us, we will have to change our recruiting and our vetting process to select against any immature, unstable, power seeking profile. Finally, I am a card carrying member of my local Marxist-Leninist Party in which I’m fully invested and have new job prospects that will occupy most of my time, the last thing I want or need is more drama. We will work towards that as a priority along actually moderating this site that descended into a worrying and sorry state quality wise. Hopefully, in the near future I will be able to entrust the domain and the server to people of trust within a structured, stable and democratic administration and go back being a regular anon. Until then I will fully assume the responsibility of owner of the domain and server (which are fully paid for, for the foreseeable future). Comradely, Krates.Combien de nos chairs se repaissent ! Mais si les corbeaux, les vautours, Un de ces matins disparaissent, Le soleil brillera toujours !
173 posts and 31 image replies omitted. Click reply to view. Anonymous 2021-08-25 (Wed) 23:55:17 No. 10745
>>462448 >> a strange one. Certainly lots of legitimate poosts, not afraid to post pro trans or BBC or soyjacks, in moderation when topics arise. My guess is idpol'd 4chan left, generally fine I feel like this could be me but my notes would certainly include threatening to blow up a hot dog stand to stick it to small businesses and a threat to sexually assault American elected officials in there, which I have been banned for more than posting soyjaks.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:29:11 No. 10748
>>462550 Yeah but he is not cringe as fuck? You retards are happy being a CIA proxy and would rather have reddit tier discussion than doxxing state agents that commit crimes. You're fucking cucked fam.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:29:32 No. 10749
>>462559 slower but the mod style is better
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:31:20 No. 10750
>>462563 how's that user democracy going on leftychan?
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:34:00 No. 10751
>>462568 the board is slower but the mod style is better we've been through this. Do you know how lame it is coming here in this thread to shill yourself and your actions anonymously?
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:32:27 No. 10752
>>462568 Oh wow you get more posts, but ignore the problems posted in this thread. You are a bunch of cucks obsessed with keeping a site that has always collapsed and reformed from collapsing. Why do you cucks cry so much about people doxxing others here? Because you're a bitch.
Anonymous 2021-08-25 (Wed) 23:55:19 No. 10754
>>462467 That was pretty much the reasoning the jannies gave for it. To allow them to distinguish between genuine posters and recurring trolls. Judging by that list they went a bit crazy with it though and profiled most frequent users. I don't want to say glowie honeypot, but that is certainly what it looks like.
Anonymous 2021-08-25 (Wed) 23:56:14 No. 10755
>>462477 nah mate I've had that one confirmed, it's not you
Anonymous 2021-08-25 (Wed) 23:58:28 No. 10756
>>462479 My proudest moment on this site is getting sick of people whining about small business owners and declaring a terrorist threat against random hot dog stands from 2000km away.
Anonymous 2021-08-25 (Wed) 23:58:46 No. 10757
>>462431 tldr, some mods attempted a coup and failed. the coup started because a mod was going to be kicked out for being a drama shit stirrer. >>462440 This person is pushing their narrative for who knows what purpose. Probably to maintain a failed split, so beware. Taking notes on IPs is an invaluable function of moderating effectively. We can also see all the posts you've made with an IP. The fact that comatoast allegedly "just found out about this" means he's either a liar or such a bad and absent mod that he didn't know we were using these despite mentioning them, and I was even asking mods to remember to leave notes if they can be useful to other mods. Comatoast is painting himself as a martyr and is taking you all for a spin. He was also pushing the idea that we're not open source (because we just launched and things take time ffs). Pushing fear, uncertainty and doubt that we might be running malicious code. 1. Even if the source is on github, it is still absurdly trivial to run malicious code and still be "up to date" with the github repo. 2. Their own site was not running what was shown on github. It was revealed when they had to roll back some changes after Coma made some aesthetic fixes. Don't let yourself be taken for a spin so easily. You're leftists. Get the fact straight and understand what and why things happened. >>462478 >fedjacketing bruh. This is wrecker behavior. What, are the feds going to come after you because a mod put "spams soyjak" on your IP? If you visit this site without a VPN or tor that is already more than enough evidence for feds. they don't need our stupid notes. Your schizo shit is very harmful. You should feel ashamed and do self- crit.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:11:12 No. 10758
>>462518 >Cloudfare provides an incomparable and invaluable service to prevent DDOS and spam. But it's run by the CIA and stops you doing anything like doxxing a murderous police officer?
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:11:01 No. 10759
>>462518 for transparency, which mod are you?
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:09:57 No. 10760
>>462516 Is this a janny trying to shock me?
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:09:41 No. 10761
>>462493 >This post is a current mod No shit retard.
How's your democratic union going on leftychan? I remember you shilling .net so much, but now I see you quiet.
>>462500 Cloudfare provides an incomparable and invaluable service to prevent DDOS and spam.
>>462503 Yes. I'm a mod, as my post clearly implies.
You've been lied to.
>>462507 Sometimes I write "positive" notes like "a leftist" or "good IP". It takes some time to figure out if someone is genuine or not, so sometimes I just leave short notes to myself that might be useful for others. Otherwise I need to re-read a lot of posts.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:08:58 No. 10762
>>462507 Did you actually end up contacting the mods about your profile?
Socdem you're such a sneed lmao
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:06:47 No. 10763
i thought they mostly noted people who were banned or were at risk of being banned because they said borderline things that might get them banned if there wasn't a note saying "this guy's actually alright he just really hates italians" or at least that's how i've synthesized the explanations given to protect my ego after discovering there isn't, in fact, a secret mod essay about my brilliance.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:05:24 No. 10764
>>462485 sounds legendary, shame I must've missed that one >>462486 I'm too tired to reply to each point in this, sorry. But to other anons reading, this post is a biased version of events written by someone clearly dedicated to the .org side of the split. Keep that in mind when reading this.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:05:04 No. 10765
>>462486 I brought up Comatoast in my opening post because he has based opinions on how the site should be run. Why are we on the meme American CDN which logs all of our activity? There's no use worrying about wiretaps when the admins have installed one for them. On the other hand we have Caballo, a guy that backed the position that destroyed the British left, having his only public appearance here insulting everyone that leftybritpol consists of, blaming them for the outcomes of his actions. Caballo is British and disliked by leftybritpol because of his interactions with them. I don't know what anyone else thinks of Comatoast but I like him because he wants to disconnect us from the grid of the Five Eyes. It's honestly sad that he's the only guy that cares about this. Why are we still connected to Cloudfare?
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:02:32 No. 10766
>>462486 This post is a current mod spinning their version of events btw. In fact, its a lot more complicated and the mods on here aren't exactly the innocent party
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:14:04 No. 10767
>>462536 Brits do what they want tbqh fam, we're our own community on the site.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:15:05 No. 10768
>>462524 antinous >>462526 If you have a better alternative, feel free to join the tech team and we can implement it together. We're always looking for help.>>462536 You're right, sorry. I'll stop.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:15:06 No. 10769
>>462500 the place you seek is called the same as this but with .net instead of .org
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:16:10 No. 10770
>>462540 you're not even a brit why are you in our brit thread shitting it up with your mod drama
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:17:39 No. 10771
>>462514 i asked a few times in the threads about it but yeah apparently nothing or maybe after having asked "this guy reads" was added. >>462500>Caballo is British and disliked by leftybritpol because of his interactions with them when did this come in? the only thing i can remember is that time where we were made a cyclical thread which was ages ago. (on bunkerchan?) >>462539 really gotta get the thread back up to speed tbh. missing the days where /leftybritpol/ could be the fastest thing on the site.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:19:52 No. 10772
cloudflare sending all my data to the CIA i can handle but eating my flag's just not on.legal note: i will "handle" sending my data to the CIA by making full use of all legal recourse available, don't do it cloudflare. follow GDPR to the letter like a right-leaning uni labour society paranoid-ly guiding its sign-up sheet.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:21:36 No. 10773
>>462541 Is it not lefty chan dot org ?>>462540 I'm not taking a cordial invitation to fix the problem as seriously as you booting the only guy that cared about the problem. You didn't even take it seriously when he was a founder, and I'm supposed to think you care when you have a split? Come on man.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:23:00 No. 10774
>>462548 >coma is a founder lmao. he doesn't even code. He can't do sys admin shit either. He just likes to bark orders and get angry when people don't do what he wants.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:23:47 No. 10775
>>462545 >missing the days where /leftybritpol/ could be the fastest thing on the site. the thing is, its not even funny any more. How much more can you even meme in this meme country? What more meme tier shit could even top how much of a fucking piece of viral content this wheezing, diabetic, high blood pressure, cholesterol clogged country is. Its not even funny any more. Its just shit. Everything about it is cringe, our shit little shops, our pathetic public transport, roads, hospitals, schools. It all is just fucking shit and its not even warm like in spain Name a good thing about the UK, you can't
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:25:07 No. 10776
>>462545 >when did this come in? When Corbyn lost the election he blamed every Lexiter. From people that were Lexit from the start to people that thought we should back leave because we would be annihilated otherwise. He went all out and was a proper nasty cunt blaming us for everything that went wrong.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:34:39 No. 10777
>>462563 absolutely, the mods on .net are very chill for supposed power tripping nazbol wreckers >>462568 not too bad actually, I vote on all the shit in the matrix chat once a day and it gets done. Seems cool to me.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:36:35 No. 10778
>>462578 >>462579 Is .net open to doxxing agents, despite it being nominally illegal at the CDN location?
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:37:14 No. 10779
>>462579 >not too bad actually, I vote on all the shit in the matrix chat once a day and it gets done. Seems cool to me. post shit that's been done. post evidence.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:37:48 No. 10780
>>462588 no lmao
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 00:46:08 No. 10781
>>462588 Mate it's 1:40 in the morning and I'm on my phone. I really can't be arsed posting evidence. Most of the votes so far have been on setting up the voting process anyway and the big shit takes time to implement. Also could you stop shitting up the brirpol thread with your obsessive janny shit and fix the fucking mobile app. The .org app is completely fucked atm, while the .net app is working perfectly lol
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 02:20:51 No. 10782
>>462440 >And yes, caballo is still a mod and unsurprisingly he was the janny which initially caused the split. Caballo was the main impetus behind the whole thing. Moody and Zul were the main people bickering.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 02:27:45 No. 10783
>>462796 >Caballo was the main impetus behind the whole thing Caballo wasn't the main impetus behind the whole thing. The fact that Sage didn't counter this lie since their entry to the modchat was the spark that started this speaks volumes.
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 04:39:11 No. 10784
Reminder that Sage is actually part of the Watermelon clique and partially responsible for this whole thing, he pretty much wants leftychan to annex leftypol and not the other way around. He should be permabanned in sight
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 09:32:44 No. 10785
Jesus H. Christ As I explained to Coma, who ignored the notes the last eight months, before throwing a week-long tantrum or something, a ban is a note too with the IP being hindered from posting additionally (if you wanna look at things upside down like a complete moron).
Caballo ## Mod 2021-08-26 (Thu) 19:01:25 No. 10800
>>10656 Look, that is an interesting idea. But is it really fair to call us a 'monumental failure' and so on for not pioneering some crazy never-before-seen type of P2P internet (yes I'm sure there's a few examples of similar things but no big/successful ones)? Our huge failing is that we actually use the internet as it is and not as we might wish it was? Come on, try be a bit less of an idealist.
>>10753 I didn't cause the split. Sorry to disappoint. My importance is greatly overstated to this whole thing.
>>10758 Cloudflare is probably compromised, sure, but in this day and age, we couldn't run the site without it, or a comparable tool. Machine spam can make any imageboard unusable otherwise.
>>10765 Clearly I don't agree with leftybritpol. That's why I barely post there anymore. Coma is not a bad guy but his views are, well, idealistic to say the least.
>>10777 It's easy to be 'chill' when you don't do anything.
>>10784 Indeed. I'm done with his whining.
Caballo ## Mod 2021-08-27 (Fri) 20:39:16 No. 10825
>>10824 I have never had sexual relations with that namefag.
Anonymous 2021-08-28 (Sat) 03:11:42 No. 10835
I have a suggestion, other imageboard that I frequent has this "raid/invasion mode" basically what it does is that it blocks all posting from new IP's and only allows posts from old IP's that have been around for like a week, basically a white list that blocks all raiders while allowing a considerable amount of regular posters to keep posting. This could be very useful when /pol/ or someone else is raiding the site, sure you will lock some new visitors and phoneposters (you can use a message telling people to come back later) for a while but it could be very useful to keep the site safe when raids happen, this is not supposed to be a permanent mode, but something that can be activated when raids happen and turned off later.
Anonymous ## Developer 2021-08-28 (Sat) 03:55:01 No. 10836
>>10835 I considered a more basic version of this idea a while ago, but like you mentioned, many posters use phone networks or other ISPs where their IP address regularly changes without them knowing, along with Tor being blocked. The collateral damage may even outweigh the benefits in my opinion.
I also thought about the idea of pre-sharing a bypass phrase each week (like 'peruperu') so posters can bypass a total block during a raid. Unfortunately, I feel users grill too much to take note of it and would just not know it when they need it, and a lurking /pol/ user can easily invalidate it by reposting the password.
For future reference, please put suggestions in a more relevant thread or create a new thread if none exists.
Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 04:51:53 No. 10899
>>10800 >is it really fair to call us a 'monumental failure' and so on for not pioneering some crazy never-before-seen type of P2P internet >Our huge failing is that we actually use the internet as it is and not as we might wish it was? the biggest failure of you and your ilk was one of recognition and analysis, not inaction
>Come on, try be a bit less of an idealist. you don't know what that word means
Anonymous 2021-12-21 (Tue) 01:33:55 No. 15547
>>10899 Still no worthwhile response to
>>10656 beyond the most pathetic hand-wave by Caballo? Unsurprising. I'll just keep waiting until the next mod drama happens and the site collapses again. All is right with the world!
Anonymous 2021-12-21 (Tue) 10:50:39 No. 15558
>>15547 I don't think the mod team here has the time or inclination to implement a totally different protocol.
Anonymous 2021-12-21 (Tue) 22:00:54 No. 15565
>>15558 Same as before, you only focus one one aspect of the post and ignore the rest because you don't take the issue seriously. Sad.
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