No.158322
I can't fucking believe people were this tasteless lmao.
No.158360
I wonder what most former scene girls are doing right now? Probably either doing crack or getting cheated on by their husbands.
No.158362
>>158360most of them grew out of it and became suburban karens AFAIK
No.158363
>>158360they're still clubbing at raves
No.158425
>>158423Earlier than that, it was when youtube did away with the 5 star rating system, and having the description on the right
No.158427
>>158425I don't really remember the five star vs. like/dislike change making much of a difference. I was definitely on youtube when they had the star ratings, but I may not have had an account and my memories are fuzzier. Not sure
No.158468
>>158367>DJ Toxiclel, I remember this guy
No.158472
>>158420>>158422>neopets and CPthis
got banned within my first 2 minutes of club p for saying 'hi' > 'fuck' No.158477
>>158327This is the first time I’ve ever watched this
My friend used to sing this all the time over ten years ago and I never had an interest in watching this video
And now you’ve shown it to me
Nice job
No.158478
>>158476I wanna hear Shay's perverted kid stories uwu
No.158479
Why would anyone be nostalgic for the fucking 2000s of all times? I was a child back then, and even I knew how much that decade fucking sucked. The 2010s also sucked, but holy fucking shit it was better than the god awful 2000s
Only good thing about the 2000s was the early internet, fuck do I miss the early internet.
Other than that it was irredeemably shit, at least in 2021 I can legally smoke weed
No.158481
>>158327God no.
>>158449I once made a power point to teach my school mates how to delete their browser history. I used this song as background music. Hahaha.
I still listen to My Chemical Romance from time to time, IMO they aged well.
No.158505
>>158483Drugs are cheaper and I can smoke weed on the sidewalk without fearing the pigs
/thread
No.158506
>>158476my friend and i used to reenact viral youtube videos on the playground in elementary school.
does that count as literal LARPing?
No.158509
>>158476I made a blog for secrets in Pokemon games
Shit like
>use strength on the truck in vermilion city before the 5th badge for a mewand
>talk to the white rock in sootopolis 100 days in a row to go to the moon No.158510
>>158476I used to LARP as Ben 10 characters with my little brother and my cousins back when I was like 7 or 8, it also involved a lot of toilet humor for some reason.
No.158537
>>158506Yeah but youtub back then was different animal
No.158540
>>158476another
>elementary school>girl insults my appearance once randomly>well now i hate her>one day i got seated at her desk in a class i wasnt part of because of some gifted kids thing>she's not there that day>start using her journal in her desk to replicate her handwriting>write insulting notes to people from her>literal IRL falseflag shitposting by age 10not proud of this one
No.158543
>>158542>annoying orange<v-tuber LMAO
No.158544
>>158542You have to admit those endings were really fucked up, especially for something targeted at children.
No.158589
im glad I lived as a poor beaner with a single mom because I wasnt exposed to all the 2000s and early 2010s shit
No.158638
>>158636Yeah Green Day is a bit lib but it's still fun to listen to.
No.158639
>>158540 lel
How did the feds not recruit you?
No.158642
>>158596There's more, there was an entire thread on
GETchan full of shay abuse stories.
Shay had a very difficult upbringing.
No.158647
>>158639too skilled, if they did he may become the new director
No.158650
>>158642 *takes pinch of salt*
It's possible but some stuff is really out there TBH
>>158647LMAO
No.158655
>>158420I played so much notes as a kid. My mum had all the best stuff though.
God I miss neopets that was the good shit..
No.158671
>>158650What stuff do you consider too "out there" to be real? Everything i posted in /leftylgbt/ was accurate
No.158684
>>158505Also, Delta 8 has done the same thing for states it's not even legal in yet because of a loop hole in the farm bill so there's that
No.158685
>>158476When I was a young kid like really young I was lonely and had many imaginary friends which were basically all Edd n' Eddy characters
No.158690
>>158678Holy shit that song unlocked so many memories all at once
No.158691
>>158685>imaginary friends >all Edd n' Eddy charactersit appears I wasn't the only one who did it.
No.158697
>>158639didn't do my homework too often
my old gifted friends got mkultra'd and probably work for them now though
No.158703
>>158596iirc, Shay was raised on 4chan as a kid
I was as well, being a 2010 cancerfag spamming ragefaces and rule34 threads.
I remember seeing 1 man 1 jar, it was the first time I've ever seen anything like it. I had nightmares for months. But I couldnt stop fapping to Sunfire x Misty and fap roulettes.
I never left /b/, until I abandoned 4chan completely when my friends said it wasnt that cool. I never came into direct contact with stormfags, or if I did, it didnt make an impression.
No.158712
>>158473>I sometimes used to hang out with girls (and boys) that looked like this.we all did
No.158723
>>158722Linkin Park got memed so hard, people started unironically listening to them
You have Numb and Crawling as standout bangers too
No.158763
>>158752yeah my cousin got me on this game in 2006, ive got some ancient memories of just wandering around this game and not really doing many quests but just exploring mostly
i remember runehq though
No.158962
>>158699Shit, I guess I'm not the only one here who went through puberty younger than normal
No.159966
>>159868I also like the scene look (unlike emo), but I wouldn't call it the best teenage aesthetic either.
> I have the taste in men of a 12-year-old girl in 2006.kek
No.159973
>>159868I liked it when people could be andro without it being """trans"""
No.160060
>>159973>>159978This, remember when being Metrosexual didn't = gay?
No.160096
>>160060Metro was the first time men could take basic care and look like they cared about casual fashion.
Then it died out.
>>159868Is that Tokyo hotel?
No.160177
>>160096>Metro was the first time men could take basic care and look like they cared about casual fashion. Nah the prior decades from the 30s-90s are also great (see that video of male 'fashion' from 1900-2010). I hate that you can't dress nicely and not be assumed to be gay or some shit because you don't do generic skinny jeans or gym shorts (the former actually looks much gayer).
No.160202
>>160177>>160177>generic skinny jeans or gym shorts (the former actually looks much gayer).agreed lmao
No.160204
>>160177Skinny jeans was the gay/bi fashion of the 2000s. Now it's the bro-est of bro shit.
No.160217
>>159973what about all of 1980s hair metal fashion?
No.160222
>>160218Wear what you like, anon :)
No problem in looking like a bro, it's just an aesthetic.
No.160223
>>160217That was even earlier
>>160218I have no idea how skinny jeans can be comfy but you do you
No.160228
>>160223I like the feeling of my legs and bulge being smooshed, I suppose I'd like wearing tights too
No.160259
>>160096>Is that Tokyo hotel?It's og Bill Kaulitz, yeah. He butched up a lot later as far as appearance.
>>159973Yeah, this was great.
>>160217Some of that was ok honestly but it usually did actually look bad - or it wasn't played entirely for androgynous sex appeal. Like Dee Snider really seemed to be going more for Rocky Horror shock value, but Motley Crue actually looked kind of good a lot of the time.
>>160228Yeah, I feel this. I stopped wearing loose jeans at all ages ago, it's a different kind of comfy when you get used to having your thighs and ass hugged all the time.
No.160266
>>160218not for me, im too fat for them now
No.161094
>>161079Sexy ass music video.
No.161125
>>161009i forgot this chick existed actually
No.161475
>>161009I never listened to a single song of hers
No.162736
you guys remember reading goosebumps in school?
No.162760
>>162736I thought you were a zoomer junko, how much do you even remember of the 2000s?
No.162790
>>162760I mean tbh if you were one of the earlier Zoomers ie born in the mid to late 90s then chances are you are going to remember a lot of 2000s even if it's mostly the mid to late part of the decade.
No.162801
>>162760i literally said earlier to someone that the goosebumps tv series was "a 2000s-2010s series that feels like it should've been from the 90s" then double checked and randomly saw it actually is from the 90s. i guess i was watching reruns and didnt even know
>>162790yeah i kind of fall into that category
No.162803
>>162790also i was online a LOT earlier than i feel like a lot of my generation was, before smartphones were a big thing
so i do have so ancient ass memories from like the 2004-2009 internet as well
No.162810
>>162805what about video gayme
vidrel i didnt have access to a playstation or xbox very often but had SNES
No.162813
>>162810I had the GBA port as a kid.
It was really confusing when ganon was a fucking pig and didnt look anything like the smash ganon
No.162816
>>158476My not-so-older sister used to make me take naked pictures in front of the computer, we also used to kiss each other. I have scattered memories about it, probably only was for a few months but she says she 'doesn't remember'
Yeah
No.162821
>>162803Same honestly,
I remember how different the Internet was pre Facebook and Youtube and how wild west it was. Honestly, one of my biggest regrets I have is how much of my childhood was being terminally online. Admittedly a lot of this was the environment around me because my mother was so worried about me due to the paranoia of post 9/11 America that I got sheltered a lot more then was probably good for my psyche (ie I was homeschooled because my mother was afraid of school shootings and the school I was at possibly requiring me to be put on ADHD medication after I ran onto the playground in the middle of class). Honestly, I might've done better mentally if the latter happened but I am not sure since Ritalin can cause psychotic reactions.
That said especially after 2020 I ended up valuing real life a lot more then I used to. And it really makes me wish I got to experience real life more when I was growing. Honestly, the Internet really fucked up my mind. The Internet combined with a lot of my mother's very paranoid tendencies made me a lot more of an anxious person then I really had to be.
God, I feel bad to the kids who are growing up on Zoom classes and Tik Tok. Honestly, I think the next time a large "counter culture" pops up it really needs to emphasize the need for real life experience and real social interaction. It's one thing to be so online in adult years I really do not think it's good for kids to grow up on the Internet since they are still developing.
No.162831
>>162823junkock poster what is wrong with you
No.162843
>>162831They like your kock
No.162849
>flash gamesPandemic 2
Snowfight 3D by Robotduck / publisher Fetchfido
McDonald's Video Game by Molleindustria
Age of War
Stick RPG
The Last Stand 1 & 2
Warlords: Call to Arms
Territory War
Dino Run
Interactive Buddy
Raft Wars
Swords and Sandals
Boxhead series
Learn to Fly
I still revisit them for a nostalgia by using Flashpoint
& if you use Flashpoint, I recommend trying these games.
>>158752Don't forget Adventure Quest
But Runescape was also my first MMO.
Sherwood or Sherwood Dungeon was another.
Stronghold 2 / Warcraft 3 were go-to RTS titles.
Stronghold 2 was advertised so much on flash gamesAnd I still play Warcraft 3 today No.162853
>>162831I want your junkock in my throat
No.162854
>>162849never played any of these except pandemic 2 and runescape lol
No.162857
>>162854Well you are a zoomer so that's expected.
No.162860
>>162849>Stick RPGlmao, I remember selling drugs and getting into barfights
weirs game
No.162899
>>162849>the last standhey,this one has like 5 games,including one that is very recent in beta,but it's no longer flash obviously.
No.163081
>>163079holy shit I remember this, used to have an arcade version of this at the movie theatre I used to go to.
No.163677
>>163102Before 2008 it was vaguely last time of normalcy in the US. After 2008 shit really went weird politically and that was even after the clusterfuck that post 2001 America was.
No.163680
>>163677I think that 2001-2009 including 9/11, the wars, and the recession as a whole period is what drove America insane (even more than it was already).
No.163718
>>163690UYGHA STOLE MY BIKE
No.163964
>>158425>5 star rating systemThat was absolute dogshit design because people almost always only used the extreme ratings. It could have been saved by some tweak (like requiring the user to rate something in the 2-4 range before activating the option of an extreme rating for the next vid, that way the extreme ratings are never more than half of all ratings), but YT designers couldn't be arsed to come up with something like that.
No.163965
>>163964>requiring the user to rate something in the 2-4 range before activating the option of an extreme rating for the next vidthis is exactly the sort of autistic technocrat cartoon-gadget solution i expect some silicon valley bro to expect to save their whole site, meanwhile nobody likes that sort of shit
No.163978
>>163965I'm sad to hear that ADHD apes like you are too stupid to use five stars responsibly, even with my proposed training wheels. I did relay your insights to some programmer colleagues at google/youtube and they will soon reveal an interface custom-built for people like you. In the near future you will just piss or poo on your smartphone to rate a video.
No.163980
>>163978>ADHD apesIt's a janky and inefficient system and your proposal is typical pointlessness that silicon valley hacks love to engage in.
No.164160
>>158722>>158718>>158678Does Totally Not Mark (or his editor) lurk here?
Just 11 days after the Linkin Park AMV is posted and it features in today's video (50 second mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgX9QQU9ckA&ab_channel=TotallyNotMark No.164183
>>164160Its not like its difficult to find. All I did was look up naruto amv and picked the oldest one
No.164204
>>158302Old Nickelback was still shit but at least it was sorta dumb fun shit.
>>158449MCR was always good.
>>158483This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpN1zZp4THs was my jam in high school.
>>158717Lmao so many hours into Pro Skater.
>>158722Used to love that scooped mids guitar tone. This stuff was always just for teenagers but I honestly can't say it doesn't kinda bop. Hybrid Theory and especially Meteora still rule.
>>158752we're all gonna make it brah.
>>158964still goes.
>>162807based
>>163955still goes.
No.164473
>>164183yeah but why would you pick that specific one? feels like too much of a coincidence.
No.164736
>>158476>>158962I also remember making a full family in The Sims one day (I think it was 8 sims), all adults, named them the "Sex" family, and named each of them after certain body parts. Then I made them all fuck each other and that made me extremely horny, lmao.
>>162816How'd you cope with that?
>>163081A simulation game in arcade form? How the fuck does that work?
No.164754
>>164736>A simulation game in arcade form? How the fuck does that work?IDK All I remember is that this game' existed on an arcade box in my local theatre (going by name and graphics that I recall)
No.166278
>>166255This is nostalgia porn. The song choice and notepad typing is perfectly iconic.
No.166281
>>166280this guy was all over the 2000s. too bad he got into hard drugs
No.166879
>>166280Ah shit, my coworkers keep playing this song in Waffle House
>>166281Well that's sad and changes how I feel when I hear the song now
No.166931
>>166882vete a la versh > pogonyuto
No.167295
have you watched ghost tank?
No.167545
On the one hand I pity zoomers who will never know the glory/cringe of the early internet era.
On the other hand, the 2000s were truly a synthetic wasteland desperately searching for meaning. 2001-2008 was the nadir, 2008-2013 wasn't quite so bad but also shit.
I'd say since 2014 things have at least been mildly entertaining.
No.167872
>>167852I kno it's older but back in the day it could be heard all over the place
No.167974
100.3 FM in Chicago is having a throwback weekend, tons of great pop music on the radio
No.171309
>>171301I don't remember what this character was like but she looks rather like an Alpha female tbh
No.171310
>>158476one time at school i wanted to warm my hands up so I pissed on them at the urinal. Of course immediately the liquid made my hands even colder. Worst part is I was in like year 11.
No.171319
I remember getting home from school watching Linkin Park AMVs, drawing manga and watching edgy shit. 13 years old was a good age
No.171468
I remember Imagine Dragons being super popular and "The next LInkin Park"
No.172398
>>172019Familiar but no, I think I more observed others playing it.
No.172471
>>172019Holy shit this is a level of nostalgia that I am not used to.
No.172477
>>172470I don't have that much hair anymore…
No.172544
>>172470>There's no reason you can't still look like thisyes there is - im way too fat nowdays
No.172824
>>164180Fun fact, Group X predated 9/11
No.172825
It's happening I knew it
2000s nostalgia is coming
the oughts will be looked at fondly now
it's the cheesiest decade
No.172827
>>158423>joined 2011Damn I did not remember the alternation going on for that long. I seem to recall YT absolutely nuking cutomizability and community shit (usergroups, "rooms" (I forget the actual name for rooms), video responses, etc.) way earlier, but they must have gone back and forth on page design. Recently realized they disallowed channel comments, messages went a couple years back.
No.172891
>>172825The 2000s are the new 1980s.
W Bush = Reagan
Hair Metal fashion = Emo/Scene fashion
etc.
No.173231
>>172891I think we seem to have actually averted most of the nostalgia for Bush - like the media has tried to push it, especially under Trump, but they seem to have mostly failed. If anything people hate literally every president more now.
No.173955
>>173231Bush's Nostalgia days are going to come in 20 years or so.
No.174032
>>173955I honestly don't believe that. It's already been almost 17 years since the start of Bush's second term and Reagan nostalgia was in full swing 17 years after. Now not only has Bush largely
not received such nostalgia (despite the media's best efforts), but Reagan and Clinton seem to be getting negatively reappraised in the popular consciousness.
No.174035
>>174009I respect the penguin.
>mfw people I know paid money for it No.174167
>>174012As horrific as this is, the grinning torturers and the frankly imbecilic idea of actual photo evidence makes me wonder if this had been a photo-op, it feels too clumsy for this to just get 'leaked' like this.
No.174200
>>174168AddictingGames, Orisinal, RandomThoughts, AlbinoBlackSheep, Homestar Runner, StickSuicide, KoL, Piczo, GaiaOnline (just checked on it now, holy shit you have to download an alternate browser just to play it now), etc.
Have fun
No.174228
>>174220Back in the day? Literally any browser.
I logged in just now and they rec'd a browser I haven't heard of before to access the oldschool Gaia world.
No.174275
>>174228The name of that browser if you please? DuckDuckGo?
No.175806
>>175804Dude looks handsome in the thumbnail, damn.
No.175856
>>175806Hey, Smash Mouth got style.
No.175952
I probably spent 3 years playing Warcraft 3 in the early 2000s. I remember when our Internet got good enough to play Unreal Tournament without constantly lagging.
No.179205
>>175985News grounds is based and nonexploitative
No.179236
>>179205Recently they've made it harder to see and use some content (paywalled)
No.181152
>>179205Say anyone have Bloon Toer Defense 3 in a playable format?
No.182683
>>179202A ton of people thought Kiera Knightley was hot in the 2000s. Weird, she looks so basic now in retrospect.
No.182684
>>175984that was a 90s look which held over to the early 2000s, linkin park/nofx shit
No.182685
>>174167naw, this was pre widespread broadband days. They figured being in a foreign country they could probably get away with it, and not without reason im sure more shit like this happened that we never heard of
No.182851
>>182683Stardom does that to a person.
No.183676
>>174167>>182685That and some people do genuinely enjoy shit like this and are made happy
and in some instances are aroused by torture
No.183995
>>183676Mental illness of a most terrifying kind. No need for a Terminator if you have fuckers like this in the glowie ranks.
No.186433
>>183677Most of the Myspace bands I remember are ones that were relatively small. Like Miak. And… uh… Jeffree Moon.
No.187379
>>186482Man this feels like it came out only yesterday.
No.189414
>>158476when I was seven my best friend convinced me that this girl in our class was "darkness" and that she went to the "dark relm" when school ended, I was gullible enough to think this was real and so I bullied her in school every day until my friend told me that he lied to me
No.189417
>>172544put down the bigmac and go lift
No.189843
>>189417emos are twinks not musclemen
No.193986
>>179202I preferred Rum is Gone over Hobbits to Isengrad
No.194031
>>1898423 doors down is always classic 00's
No.194036
>>189843gay alphas: tops
gay betas: twinks
gay gammas: fat people (you)
No.194658
check out neocities, it's old internet but alive still
No.196192
>>188919classic "2000's teen movies" vibes
No.198679
>>196192Really? More 90sish to me dude
No.201891
>>198679naw, the song was all over radio in the 00's and in every teen movie of the decade
No.201892
>>167545>On the other hand, the 2000s were truly a synthetic wasteland desperately searching for meaningdecades only have an aesthetic after the fact
No.201999
>>158425>>158423It's funny to see people bitching about Dislike hiding and other shit and ignore the much more effective 5-tar system that got removed.
No.202006
>>201999There was definitely a long downward slide for YouTube where they made it clear what they were out to do.
No.202118
>>158479There's nothing like being worried that you were going to be drafted to go to war because the President won't admit defeat or the voices in his head told him to start another war.
>>163677You should have seen the U.S. before and right after 9/11. Anybody who remembers how it was back then knows that "Normal" ended then. I'm glad that shitlibs (So far) failed to force-meme it like they force-memed "Millennial".
>>173231>>174032Case in point is that there was never any Nixon nostalgia either.
No.202142
>>202118i kinda feel 2000s nostalgia
iraq war, jon stewart, early internet kinda thing
i don't want to go back to it or live it but i feel something for it
>>202014OH MY GOD RAY WILLIAM JOHNSON IS BACK
AND HE'S GOT A TIKTOK
No.204003
>>202142>i don't want to go back to it or live it but i feel something for itI wonder if we will ever have a 2000s nostalgia in movies films just like 1980s nostalgia is/was a thing with like Stranger Things, etc.
No.204005
>>204003I dunno… the '00s had some distinct fashion, tech, music kinds of cultural stuff going on but '00s cinema tended to be markedly
blah for the most part. There was some bad CGI stuff that you can call an aesthetic, some edgy shit, the patriotic bullshit and that kind of melodrama… but mostly it was kind of middling.
It's possible that
We Are the Strange is the most definitive, distinctly 2000s vibe in a movie I can think of. Other than that there's
Juno (which honestly just feels like a big-name indie flick from any year between 2006 and 2015), the Sam Raimi
Spidermans (feels 'oughties, but in that blah way I'm talking about where you can tell but there's not a very distinct aesthetic), the
Star Wars prequels (ew)… and, actually, I guess a bunch of Pixar and Dream Works flicks.
Shrek and
Monsters, Inc. definitely have a vibe.
No.206050
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No.209570
Bros, i have somewhat of a request. can you post 2000-2010 nostalgic sounding old internet/flash player game songs or any songs from the period that sound nostalgic? not just are nostalgic by default due to the time passed by actually have that kind of sound in the music itself. think songs like stop by ghost k that would be on multiple old YouTube tutorials or like a song from an old kongregate game.
No.209574
>>209570I'm assuming what you're asking for is stuff
of the time, right? Like you're not asking specifically for later shit, right?
>>209573Yeah, you phrased it dumbly mate.
I ended up attaching related, which I don't think is the type you were looking for. You were 'boutta get a bunch of Lemon Demon and Weeble and RatherGood and uhhhh… I dunno, Wizard Rock.
No.209584
>>209574re-reading i can see how confusing i sound, my bad. But yes stuff of the actual time, if it was posted on say march 5th 2008 or something that's what i want and what i meant.
stuff like
>>209575>>209577>>209580is perfect and exactly what i'm looking for
No.209585
>>209584forgot to say thank you
No.209720
Jesus take me back. I want to wake up in 2007.
No.210801
>>210800Me on the right but not really
No.210806
>>210805Also put even more emphasis on being born in the year 2000, every autistic male I met who born in the same year as me is also obsessed with it for no reason other than connection and it being a cool round number.
No.211408
>>158327better than bitch lasagna by a mile
No.211411
>>210805God I hate you people
No.211467
>>210805>cartoon network stuff no-one remembersCN City or GTFO
No.211902
>>210805 >>210800>memethis format has lost all coherence, it's just stating basic facts and opinions shared by people and slapping it onto the "le mocking meme No.2483", cause fuck actually making the meme function.
FFS Monster only got popular as a zoommer thing in the past decade or so, mostly among people born post 2000.
Fucking hell.
No.211903
>>158479>Why would anyone be nostalgic for the fucking 2000s of all times?Because the 2010s, sucked more in most areas such as in terms of socio-political areas; in the 2000s idpol and other helicopter-tier cancer was still relegated to niche schizo communities, 4chan still had creativity and most of the country still hadn't moved on from the 1990s and so life reflected that for years. Cartoons were more fun and less samefaced, various niche anime boomed alongside the Big 3 of shonen jump, music didn't totally suck, MJ was alive and the internet didn't occupy people's lives so much.
Sure the economy and constant imperialism sucked but at least it was done outright in the open and you didn't get called a nazi conspiracy nut for pointing out warcrimes by "Our Boys" or a "ejaydubu" for calling out Wall street and supporting Occupy. Hell, economy only tanked after 2008 and the 2010s economy is hardly better, before that gas only cost 25 cents a gallon and you didn't pay an arm n' leg just to go to a zoo to stare at the 2 exhibits not under constant "construction".
People also tended to be more chill, less confrontational and fun, kids played outside and had fun, memes had been simple shit like pic related and it just felt nice compared to the liberalist mess of the decade after.
No.211905
>>202013Reminds me of pic related.
Frankly I prefer Rum Gone more, but both are classic memes
No.211906
>>211905Fuck didn't mean to spoiler.
No.211913
>>211902I mean Monster was around before that and had a pretty decent base, but I don't remember it being a big "scene kid" thing like some post-2010 retrospectives made it out to be. I think it might have been bigger in Britain or some specific scene kid enclaves or something in the 'oughts, but its presence seems to have been seriously exaggerated (probably for marketing purposes).
>>211903>in the 2000s idpol and other helicopter-tier cancer was still relegated to niche schizo communities,Lmao no it wasn't dumbass. It was just obscured by the fact that the president was able to do idpol
from the right. Like in the Bush era republicans were generally just openly anti-gay and xenophobia was pretty much a mainstream sentiment to the point you had songs on the radio about fucking up the middle east.
>music didn't totally suckIt was a better era for mainstream-ish rock, but that's not saying much. Like MCR was more interesting than 21 Pilots or whoever, but how much is that worth?
The mainstream pop & rap music of the 2000s sucked pretty hard, honestly Nicki Minaj and Lady Gaga were improvements.
>you didn't get called a nazi conspiracy nut for pointing out warcrimes by "Our Boys"You could easily get fired for doing that.
>Hell, economy only tanked after 2008 and the 2010s economy is hardly better,It was 2007 that it started to hit. By the end of 2008 it was a wreck but you're right that it continued to be a wreck for years after.
No.211916
>>211913>Monster was around before that and had a pretty decent base, but I don't remember it being a big "scene kid" thingIt's mostly in urban areas of the USA, cities like NYC, LA, Boston, Miami etc.
>no it wasn't dumbass.Yeah it was, up until the late 2000s people that claimed to be otherkin or some third gender got ignored and remained marginalized and given little attention to outside of places like /b/, who mocked them. Also alt-right shit didn't really exist. Yes ther existed stormfags and other neo-nazis but they had little approval and were so blatant that unlike the subversive bullshit of the alt-right, they were a fairly cut and dry opponent for the left.
>t was just obscured by the fact that the president was able to do idpol from the right ???
>Bush era republicans were generally just openly anti-gay and xenophobia was pretty much a mainstream sentiment to the point you had songs on the radio about fucking up the middle east. That still exists, except it's more "subversive" and shit, but at least for the gay stuff people didn't obsess as much as they do today. Nobody built entire careers and lives focused on shilling pro or anti gay sentiment as numerous "bloggers" and other hacktivists do today. The idea of someone like Emma Watson making an inane speech in the UN was laughable.
>honestly Nicki Minaj and Lady Gaga were improvements.Yeah nah, Imma say that's just shit taste if you think that. 2000s rap, hip-hop and rock had a lot more hits than misses. Modern pop music is just garbage 90% of the time outside of niche stuff like electroswing.
>You could easily get fired for doing thatAnd you'd get a ton of people rallying behind you over it. Unions didn't act as castrated and idpozzed as they do today and the counter-culture to the jingoism of the 2000s ran pretty strong.
>it continued to be a wreck for years after.And still is.
No.211918
>>211916>That still exists, except it's more "subversive" and shit, but at least for the gay stuff people didn't obsess as much as they do today. Nobody built entire careers and lives focused on shilling pro or anti gay sentiment as numerous "bloggers" and other hacktivists do today.How old are you motherfucker?
No.211923
>>210805>>210800>The Minecraft kids are oldfags now.Now what do the kids play now? Roblox?
>Because the 2010s, sucked more in most areas such as in terms of socio-political areasAs hard as it is to believe, it's better than it was in the 2000s, considering that most of the Left in North America were Vowsh-tier - a case in point is the much-overrated RevLeft.
>you didn't get called a nazi conspiracy nut for pointing out warcrimes by "Our Boys"They just beat the shit out of you for "HATIN DUH TROOPS".
>or a "ejaydubu" for calling out Wall street and supporting Occupy.No, they just talked down to you like you were a stupid child.
No.211925
>>211916>Yeah it was, up until the late 2000s people that claimed to be otherkin or some third gender got ignored and remained marginalized and given little attention to outside of places like /b/Otherkins still aren't taken seriously. But idpol isn't just "muh demiboy," it's broader than that.
>Also alt-right shit didn't really exist.Because it didn't need to, the whole country was in a fury about Muslims and Arabs and the American president was openly against gay rights and claimed to personally be talking to God.
>That still exists, except it's more "subversive" and shit, but at least for the gay stuff people didn't obsess as much as they do today.Dude I don't know if you weren't alive or you just aren't from the USA and don't have a reference point, but the fact that republicans today tend to have to downplay it should already tell you a lot. There's even a breed of American conservative today where I'm honestly not sure they care anymore about gays, which would be unthinkable in 2006.
>Nobody built entire careers and lives focused on shilling pro or anti gay sentiment as numerous "bloggers" and other hacktivists do today.Yeah they fucking did.
>Yeah nah, Imma say that's just shit taste if you think that. 2000s rap, hip-hop and rock had a lot more hits than misses. Modern pop music is just garbage 90% of the time outside of niche stuff like electroswing. Nothing I can say will refute you harder than you did yourself here.
Modern pop music
is mostly shit, and at this very moment I'm not wild about it, but popular music in the '00s sucked fucking hard a lot of the time and a lot of the stuff that came from '09-'12 was unironically an improvement.
>Unions didn't act as castrated and idpozzed as they do today and the counter-culture to the jingoism of the 2000s ran pretty strong. Unions in America have sucked since the late '80s at least.
>And still is.This is the best it's been in my lifetime. It needs improvement - I'd like to see unemployment at about 0%. But I started applying for jobs in '09, and never got a callback until '13. Living through that and then living now it honestly blows my mind how different it is.
No.212025
>>211925>Otherkins still aren't taken seriouslyYou'd be surprised
>dpol isn't just "muh demiboy," it's broader than that. Yeah I know, I just meant that more subversive and muddied idpol had only started becoming big
>Because it didn't need toYou're missing my point. People are still like that, they just don't speak it out loud because everything today is hidden under virtue signaling and soft-language and other shit that makes idpol today a mess compared to a decade+ earlier
>the fact that republicans today tend to have to downplay itThey do that because capitalism has switched from "kill da gayz" and forget 'em to "use the gayz as an idpol wagon". Gays and gay rights and trans and other gender bullshit comes up in media and politics a lot more often than it did in the 2000s and that's my point. Yes the Republican had more open hatred for them but that's my point, they didn't try to obfuscate it behind some kind of political fenagling, they just said "fuck fags" and so everyone knew where everyone stood
>Yeah they fucking didNo they didn't, there are people today that exclusively make content and focus on gender bullshit and nothing else to the point of insanity - EVERYTHING to them is about le patriarchy/straights/TERFs and that's all they go on about. In the 2000s people that had pro or anti-gay stances had them as part of a general conservative v liberal stance in politics that encompassed various topics besides gay rights and shit.
>popular music in the '00s sucked fucking hard a lot of the time and a lot of the stuff that came from '09-'12 was unironically an improvement.Yeah, no. I can't think of a single wildly popular song of the 2010s that had any significant improvement to its 2000s predecessors. The rap game is almost dead, pop relies almost exclusively on latina music for any good stuff and rock hasn't been developing much either, lelectroswing is the only thing that did good in the 2010s and that had been very niche in the USA
>Unions in America have sucked since the late '80s at leastNo shit, my point is they still didn't suck as much as the 2010s
>the best it's been in my lifetime LMAO The economy is in a recession almost as bad as 2008 for the past 2 years, and that's after the catastrophically inane game of sanctions that has been fucking up the economy since 2018.
>I started applying for jobs in '09, and never got a callback until '13. So? That's not the economy, that's your personal employment situation.
>Living through that and then living now it honestly blows my mind how different it isObviously if you're alive and employed, life is going to be different if you're unemployed.
No.212072
>>212025>Yeah I know, I just meant that more subversive and muddied idpol had only started becoming bigThat's not true though. Right-wing idpol was much bigger.
>You're missing my point. People are still like that,I'm not missing the point, you're just wrong. The things you say "got quieter" were literally public policy in the '00s. Public opinion has shifted away from those right wing identity positions to the point where those things are now fringe. They were not fringe in the '00s.
>Gays and gay rights and trans and other gender bullshit comes up in media and politics a lot more often than it did in the 2000s and that's my point.Except you're wrong about this. Those things came up a lot in the '00s, and gay rights were a hot button issue back then. Rainbow capitalism is shit, but the problem is the capitalism part not that attitudes have changed to a point where it's more profitable to hijack LGBT stuff than to rally against it.
>they just said "fuck fags" and so everyone knew where everyone stood Except the public actually agreed with that more back then. The reason politicians say it less isn't just that they're lying (they're always lying), it's that demographically saying "fuck fags" policy-wise would alienate most of their bases today because it is no longer a popular position.
>No they didn't, there are people today that exclusively make content and focus on gender bullshit and nothing else to the point of insanityRuPaul, GayGod, Chris Crocker, Del Shores… this isn't actually a new thing, you're just fixated on it.
>In the 2000s people that had pro or anti-gay stances had them as part of a general conservative v liberal stance in politics that encompassed various topics besides gay rights and shit. There've literally always been people with pet political causes which they gave priority.
>Yeah, no. I can't think of a single wildly popular song of the 2010s that had any significant improvement to its 2000s predecessors.I can name a bunch of pop songs from the '00s that were absolute shit though. "Crank That," "Bootylicious" (what a waste of a good sample), most everything 50 Cent did (he was about the biggest rapper in the world!), "Laffy Taffy" (still better than Soulja Boy), "Bad Day," "This is Why I'm Hot," "Girlfriend," "F.U.R.B.," "Hey There Delilah," "Single Ladies" (which was a big deal and taken super seriously despite being pap), "Boom Boom Pow," etc.
Yeah, absolutely give me "The Hills" or "Somebody That I Used to Know" or "Rolling in the Deep" over any of that trash.
>No shit, my point is they still didn't suck as much as the 2010s Yeah, because they sucked
more. In 2018 and 2019 the number of striking workers in the US hit its highest point since the 1980s.
>LMAO The economy is in a recession almost as bad as 2008 for the past 2 years, and that's after the catastrophically inane game of sanctions that has been fucking up the economy since 2018. The economy took a dive after COVID (with some help from turmoil in gasoline), but employment recovered rapidly. Right now the unemployment rate is already lower than it was in 2016 and less than half of what it was in 2009. It's much, much easier to get a job today than it was then and workers have more leverage today than they did then.
>So? That's not the economy, that's your personal employment situation. My personal situation was looking for work in an economy with massive layoffs and 10 percent unemployment. The economy
is personal to anybody who ever gets their house foreclosed or gets evicted or has to look for work.
>Obviously if you're alive and employed, life is going to be different if you're unemployed.I'm not employed right now. I was making the most money I've ever made in my life, and then quit my job after 3 years. They sometimes ask me if I can come back. There are places within walking distance with "now hiring" signs where I know I'd be hired if I applied because unemployment is low enough that workers are actually starting to get a little bit of leverage. It's not enough leverage yet, but it is so much better than it was in 2009.
No.212073
>>212072>Rainbow capitalism is shit, but the problem is the capitalism parttheres no separation between the two at this point
>it's more profitable to hijack LGBT stuff than to rally against itits ideological, not a simply form of business
No.212074
>>212062Emo boys did rule tho
No.212075
>>212073>theres no separation between the two at this point>its ideological, not a simply form of businessI want you to think really hard about these statements.
No.212077
>>212075theres no such thing as "pure" capitalism
and especially pure global conglomerate-corporate-banking circuit capitalism
No.212087
>>212077I didn't say anything about that, I said think about those two statements you made.
No.212088
>>212072>Right-wing idpol was much bigger.Not really, more blatant =/= bigger and liberal idpol ain't better
>I'm not missing the point, you're just wrongNo u unironically
>They were not fringe in the '00sNo they are not fringe today given the fact that people like Trump get elected and /pol/ and the alt-right are a major and loud minority of politics, mirroring the radlib left.
>Except the public actually agreed with that more back then No, the public didn't fear being attacked and "cancelled" for having an opinion, cuz social media had been in infancy.
>demographically saying "fuck fags" policy-wise would alienate most of their bases today because it is no longer a popular position.You're literally repeating my point.
>RuPaul and other retards1) Niche as fuck, I only recall RuPaul and the rest are literal "who"s
2) Entertainment drama, not political careers promoting it, I was specific about that
>you're just fixated on itNo, I'm not, if anything I avoid it and barely think of it IRL. it only comes up here because idpol is constantly brought up or related; Touch Grass
>I can name a bunch of pop songs from the '00s that were absolute shit thoughI can name 10 from the 2010s for very 2000s song that you name, lmao. Your examples are proving my point - yeah there are some good songs in the 2010 era but they are no better than the best of the 2000s and there is much more trash in the 2010 era than in the 2000s
>In 2018 and 2019 the number of striking workers in the US hit its highest point since the 1980s.LMAO because the population rose and the economy had been in another crisis like 2008? Until 2020 the biggest union protests happened during the Occupy era, and the 2020 strikes got cut loose because of the C19 BS
>Right now the unemployment rate is already lower than it was in 2016 and less than half of what it was in 2009 conveniently ignores the little thing about employment conditions dropping and the reason for employment is from a large number of people leaving work, and the reserve army of labour coming in + work being remote and online, something that was much harder in the 2000s >It's much, much easier to get a job todayLMAO I have been unemployed until 2021 since 2016-17 and had been applying to jobs constantly.
>workers have more leverage today than they did thenHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh you're serious?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>The economy is personal to anybody who ever gets their house foreclosed or gets evicted or has to look for work. Obtuse nonsequitur, your personal life does not necessarily reflect the macroconomic situation of the nation.
>There are places within walking distance with "now hiring" signs where I know I'd be hired if I applied because unemployment is low enough that workers are actually starting to get a little bit of leverage.leverage is not the reason.
>it is so much better than it was in 2009so better than the beginning of the 2010s? in the 2020s what a big bar!
No.212092
>>212087you want to separate commercium from ideological exportation; its the same thing - its one package. everything is political and so on and so on. also, capitalists dont make more money off of promoting gays because the guys in power are not blank slates, they are people with ideas, like george soros and his open society fundraising - liberalism runs deep. i think what is being opened is some weird mythbusting in the elitist structure of capitalism itself, this transparency through conspiracy-theoretical transportation for the sake unmawing this homosexual hollywood elite overturning the mythos of phallic cinema, like the fact that marlon brando was gay - this gay stuff is part of what has been bubbling, but not from intentions, though, these are also part of a deeper ideological eruption spawning from internal pressures, the libidinalization of these supposed static formats like sports even, which is more broadly an aspect of entertainment broadcast pro-gay messages to the overwhelmingly disapproving fanbase. where does gay liberation come from? it comes from television executives forwarding the transformation of public consciousness; this project is not over for our masters, and its not over for gays either, although, the guys down at weimar had a lot of ideas about "the future" too before it was demolished by fascsim. i think the childlessness of gays and something like the aids epidemic, combined with general drug use show a thanatonic inclination to the whole thing anyway, and thats where these guys are going too, hollyyweird, a hell, literally of their own creating. look at creeps like weinstein and spacey for example. what is authentic sexuality? there is none, but we are all subjects of neoliberalism.
No.212104
>>212090That's not what reddit spacing is or what textwalling is.
>>212088>Not really, more blatant =/= bigger and liberal idpol ain't better It wasn't just "more blatant," it was more popular and more institutionalized. Liberal idpol is a feeble annoyance.
>No they are not fringe today given the fact that people like Trump get elected and /pol/ and the alt-right are a major and loud minority of politics, mirroring the radlib left. Trump was unironically less bad than Bush and was also even less popular. The alt. right today actually
is seen as fringe, but some of them are not actually far off from pretty average conservative social views in the '00s - it's kind of a vague term.
>No, the public didn't fear being attacked and "cancelled" for having an opinion, cuz social media had been in infancy. People don't get canceled for answering "no" in anonymous gay marriage opinion polling, dude. That stuff changed just like views on weed and healthcare and Iraq changed. We had Myspace and chatrooms for most of the '00s and this stuff came up all the time - a lot of those people just changed their minds as they were exposed to other views.
>You're literally repeating my point. By saying that anti-gay shit became less popular?
>1) Niche as fuck, I only recall RuPaul and the rest are literal "who"sthat's because you weren't around in the '00s. I can't name any of the people you're talking about either, you're just hyperfixated on them. In actuality in 10 years if you brought most of them up people would probably not recognize the names because this stuff is fairly fickle.
>2) Entertainment drama, not political careers promoting it, All of them had an activist presence in the '00s.That shit wasn't invented yesterday, you're just obsessing over it now.
>I can name 10 from the 2010s for very 2000s song that you name, lmao. Your examples are proving my point - yeah there are some good songs in the 2010 era but they are no better than the best of the 2000s and there is much more trash in the 2010 era than in the 2000s You want us to just list off pop songs that are shit? Because that's a lot of pop songs.
>LMAO because the population rose and the economy had been in another crisis like 2008?If it was just about population rise, then strikes in the '00s would have compared. The '18-'19 strikes were
before the crisis and were larger than any strikes since the 1980s.
>Until 2020 the biggest union protests happened during the Occupy eraAre you talking about the US?
Because that's clearly not the case. The '18-'19 strikes had more participants than anything since the '80s, and still were not the biggest in US history. Occupy was nice, but it's not even in the running here.
>Obtuse nonsequitur, your personal life does not necessarily reflect the macroconomic situation of the nation. Mass unemployment and foreclosures was the macroeconomic situation of the nation.
>so better than the beginning of the 2010s? in the 2020s what a big bar!And better than 2008, better than the last quarter of '07, etc. In the mid 2010s unemployment rates started dropping to 40+ year lows. 2000 was less than 40 years ago. That doesn't mean things aren't shit, but it absolutely means the job market has improved.
No.212109
>>212104>not what reddit spacing islmao
>I'm not textwalling<posts textwall LMAO!
No.212111
>>212092>you want to separate commercium from ideological exportationExcept this is what you said:
>its ideological, not a simply form of businessYou're the one separating the two. The ideology of capitalism
is capitalism, the only reason they slap rainbows on things is because it is profitable to do so. If it was "ideological, not simply a form of business" then there would be no impulse to market to gays. They market to gays because they recognize that it's popular and that it gets them talked about - because it's free promo and it sells more shit. The rainbows are not the problem, it's the propensity of capitalism to adopt whatever's popular and commodify it that is the problem - this is a trait of capitalism.
No.212112
>>212109damn who gives a shit if someone uses reddit?
No.212116
reddit spacing is actually a myth.
the truth is organizing all of your text into paragraphs makes it easier for others to read what you are trying to articulate
if anything, if you are actually trying to communicate you want what is commonly called 'reddit spacing' on imageboards, because it'll be easier to read and easier to organize ideas and concepts
'reddit spacing' hating it may be a psyop to help prevent the dissemination of information. i just disregard anybody who says 'reddit spacing' when i am trying to expound upon anything important through digital text
No.212117
>>212111you lack imagination
is it profitable to promote gay stuff in sports?
and i wasnt separating the two, i was being rhetorical, making the point that rainbow capitalism is a binding compound, not two independent entities that mix like oil and water - like i say, even our sexuality is mediated by our neoliberal conditions - you can see something like custom genders being symptomatic of market logic for example, you would say this is a capitalist "hijacking" of some essential characteristic, but i think we can all admit that essentialism is a juvenile tendency.
No.212119
>>212117>is it profitable to promote gay stuff in sports?Yes.
Gay activism existed for something like 40 years, predating the neoliberal era as we understand it and gradually gaining traction before rainbow capitalism ever existed as a marketing strategy. While it's true that people don't operate in a vacuum, this is true for
every behavior, not just sexuality. The civil rights movement is used for cynical marketing campaigns, too - the problem with woke capitalism isn't that MLK and Malcolm X and the Black Panther Party existed or had ideas, it's that capitalism assimilates the
idea or revolution and commodifies it.
No.212120
>>212115>separating between what I'm responding to and my responsesUnnecessary
>Note the lack of separate paragraphs<two terms which mean the opposite of one another. You're making a wall of text then giving it "space" that doesn't do anything but make it more of a pain to read.
No.212124
>>212104>Liberal idpol is a feeble annoyanceNo, it isn't because it is like an insidious infection for lefty movements, Occupy Toronto and other examples proved that and it's been a problem since the late 60s that rapidly got worse in the 2010s
>Trump was unironically less bad than BushNo shit, but him, most of his followers and pol are cut from the same cloth as Bush and Reagan and other Jingoist rightwingers
>People don't get canceled for answering "no" in anonymous gay marriage opinion polling<being obtuse again Don't fuck with me
dude you are perfectly aware about what I refer to
>We had Myspace and chatrooms for most of the '00s and this stuff came up all the timePeople did not live on chatrooms and MySpace, they also talked face to face and didn't fear doing so, today you can't really discuss topics and not risk some fuck getting offended and being a cunt;
The 2000s were kind of the last dying moments before social media cut into everyone’s daily life. If it wasn't for social media, you could just brush off someone being pissed off or offended by something instead of total strangers taking a screenshot of what you said on Facebook, Instagram, or SnapChat and using it as leverage to get you fired from your job and perhaps end your career as that has happened to so many others since of the ongoing evolution of social media during the past 10–15 years.>saying that anti-gay shit became less popular That the publicly presented position on it changed
>that's because you weren't around in the '00sBut I was, I just didn't waste time as a couch potato watching Tv unless I'd gotten something from Blockbuster or ordered as a disc from Netflix mail. I didn't have the time of day to do that and neither did most others
>I can't name any of the people you're talking about either I didn't say you could because I've been fairly vague, but I guarantee you've heard OF people like Anita Sarkeesian OR SargonofAkkad or any number of inane political bloggers of liberal and alt-right ideology.
>you're just hyperfixated on themProjection
>in 10 years if you brought most of them up people would probably not recognize the names because this stuff is fairly fickleYou're moving the goal-post from the original point.
>All of them had an activist presence in the '00sBeing a mildly famous "member of 'le oppressed minority'" is not activism.
>you're just obsessing over itProjection
>You want us Ok CIA
>ecause that's a lot of pop songs*whoosh*
There is no debate that the 2010s, especially after 2012 had few good things and it only got worse every year, literally one of the biggest continuing memes on the internet since 2012. Movies, TV, Music, The Internet and more dropped more and more in quality
>2000s music: Singing on competition shows actually gave musicians exposure. Kelly Clarkson, Daughtry, Carrie Underwood. Not a fan of it compared to the 90s but I'll take it over what is out today. >2010s music: No more one hit wonder. Artists who should’ve been long gone (Katy Perry, Rhianna, Miley, Demi Lovato, Kesha, Lady Gaga, etc.) makde ~700 singles. >The '18-'19 strikes were before the crisis and were larger than any strikes since the 1980s. No, the crisis had begun in 2012 and only grew more and more, culminating in the mass-firing in Mid-2020. The strikes began in 2018 and-19 but only began reaching critical size in 2020, and even then due to a huge rise in unemployment right before C19 "arrived"
>Are you talking about the US? US and Europe
>ccupy was nice, but it's not even in the running here.You're really underplaying Occupy and its branches
>Mass unemployment and foreclosures was the macroeconomic situation of the nation And still remains that way, the changes today are fluctuations in a generally poor trend, not actual real improvement.
>it absolutely means the job market has improved.No, it means the numbers aren't really indicative of the situation. Lowering unemployment (or rather the appearance of such) doesn't actually indicate a better situation.
No.212125
>>212122>enjoy your superior '00s music.Not even that bad so your snideness failed, its still better than 90% of Lady Gaga or Katy Perry or any other popgirl of today
>If the paragraphs are separate, it's not a wall of text1) You're not spacing paragraphs, you're spacing individual sentences, the equivalent of changing spacing from 1.0 to 1.5.
2) If I take a screenshot the overall appearance of the text is going to be a wall of text, just a little more loose.
No.212128
>>212119its not profitable to make sports another arena of raising the social conscience
and you call it cynical, but it is sincere
the mouthpieces perhaps have no relation to the message
but the message itself is incessant and overbearing
No.212129
You know, I wasn't sold on the idea of LGBT being a bourgeois ruse. Then some homo derailed a thread about 2000s nostalgia to talk about that instead, and everything suddenly made sense.
No.212133
>>212128make your own thread for your reactionary "hot takes" please
No.212136
>>212124>Don't fuck with me dude you are perfectly aware about what I refer to What you refer to is inane bullshit which does nothing to refute actual opinion polling.
>People did not live on chatrooms and MySpace, they also talked face to face and didn't fear doing so, today you can't really discuss topics and not risk some fuck getting offended and being a cunt;People got mad about shit IRL in the '00s, your idea of the period is a fantasy.
>The 2000s were kind of the last dying moments before social media cut into everyone’s daily life.And this is a fantasy too! About everybody I knew had Myspace in 2006. People back then got fired for all sorts of dumb personal bullshit, too - being gay, opposing the Iraq War. If anything the difference is that when that shit happens now people acknowledge it online, back then almost nobody would hear about it so it didn't get the kind of attention it does today.
>That the publicly presented position on it changed Except the public
privately became more accepting, and that change showed up in polls. The only change in
presentation was among politicians
in response to the public gradually becoming more accepting.
>But I was, I just didn't waste time as a couch potato watching Tv unless I'd gotten something from Blockbuster or ordered as a disc from Netflix mail. I didn't have the time of day to do that and neither did most others Chris Crocker was the Leave Britney Alone guy, dude. 2/4 of the people I listed were popular internet personalities, not TV people. And lmao @ namedropping blockbuster like you think that gives you cred. I like that you think ordering discs from Netflix is quaint, too, really makes me feel old.
>but I guarantee you've heard OF people like Anita Sarkeesian OR SargonofAkkad or any number of inane political bloggers of liberal and alt-right ideology. Those kinds of people existed before the '10s though in guys like AmazingAtheist.
>ProjectionI'm not hyperfixated on them, I literally don't even know who you're talking about. You seem to think you couldn't wave your arms without hitting a big gay agenda talking head, and I don't see it.
>You're moving the goal-post from the original point. What do you think that point was?
>Being a mildly famous "member of 'le oppressed minority'" is not activism. And I didn't say it was.
>There is no debate that the 2010s, especially after 2012 had few good things and it only got worse every year, literally one of the biggest continuing memes on the internet since 2012.Dude you like electroswing, I've been really generous to even bother entertaining you on this.
>No, the crisis had begun in 2012What fucking country are you from?
>The strikes began in 2018 and-19 but only began reaching critical size in 2020Except they actually reached 30-year highs in 2018, so you're clearly incorrect here.
>You're really underplaying Occupy and its branches Maybe one of its branches did something internationally, but in the US it resulted in less striking than occurred during the 2018/2019 strikes.
>And still remains that way, the changes today are fluctuations in a generally poor trend, not actual real improvement. This doesn't actually negate that for the past 7 years, excepting quarantine, unemployment numbers have been better than in a long time. Rentier-capitalism always fluctuates, but it fluctuated
hard in the '00s and that's what I'm talking about. Ignoring that would be like ignoring the difference between the Great Depression and the New Deal-era because technically they're all running on the same cycle.
>No, it means the numbers aren't really indicative of the situation. Lowering unemployment (or rather the appearance of such) doesn't actually indicate a better situation.It means that workers have more jobs to choose from, which reduces (but does not eliminate) the coercive element of capitalism. I'm never going to say things are "good" but they're absolutely
less bad for the time being, and as a worker that matters to me.
>>212125Dude, you're free to listen to as much Jeffree Star as you want.
>1) You're not spacing paragraphs, you're spacing individual sentences, the equivalent of changing spacing from 1.0 to 1.5. I'm spacing between my sentences and you're sentences because I don't want people to confuse me for you. PS "I'm spacing between my sentences and you're sentences because I don't want people to confuse me for you" is a sentence. This is a paragraph, composed of 3 sentences. Note the periods - now it's four sentences.
>2) If I take a screenshot the overall appearance of the text is going to be a wall of text, just a little more loose.If it's loose it's not a wall of text, moron.
>>212128It's not "raising the social conscience" it's marketing to faggos and generating buzz thru culture war "debate" about their marketing. It is a technique which exists to get more attention and more money and manipulate brand perception. I guarantee you, marketers' job is marketing.
No.212142
>>212141Suck my dick Sonic
No.212145
>>212142how about you kiss me on the mouth?
No.212164
>>212161I'm not a contrarian just because I was alive and paying attention during the time you fantasize about.
No.212248
>>158367Perfect as always
No.213897
>>201999Probably because the vast majority of the people using Youtube now weren't using it back then.
No.214268
>>213897>majority of the people using Youtube now weren't using it back then.Ehhh, you're underplaying the influence it had. TBH that old tinny 240p video site had charm and functionality. Yeah today youtube got plenty of "cool" features, but at the cost of many other things
No.215001
>>212147> sonic the uyghur.jfifkek
No.215028
>>214267It's all a matter of priorities. I saw an era of blind patriotic war mania with mainstream support, large scale support for right wing idpol, unprecedented actions taken for mass surveillance, and a massive recession driven by the housing bubble and exacerbated by bank deregulation. You saw a time when people used Twitter less. Tomato tomahto.
No.215035
>>215028>I saw an era of blind patriotic war mania with mainstream supportThat has never changed and has been like that for decades, the only thing that changed is the presentation of it.
>large scale support for right wing idpolAgain, this didn't stop in the 2010s, it only increased, the only change is, again, presentation + a more blatant co-opting of radlib idpol to "balance" it out
>unprecedented actions taken for mass surveillanceAgain, that didn't change, people just stopped caring at this point, because it is the norm today
>a massive recessionAnd another one is coming again, and another occurred a decade before the 2000s and another occurred before that, that is capitalism baby.
Your personal situation may have improved but the overall situation has only changed from the standpoint of "culture" - i.e. zoomers instead of millenials and 90s kids
>You saw a time when people used Twitter less.And more, don't downplay it.
No.215384
>>215371Is that Darude Sandstorm?
No.219265
>>218887Imagine bedtime roleplay with her…
No.219840
>>219272fuck yeah.
I'm partial to Twilight Sparkle, boring answer I know but hey
No.220435
>>220431yo why is that song and aesthetics so good
didn't this guy like marry so hot tall model?
No.220445
>>220435>why is that song and aesthetics so goodBecause the 90s were crazy dude, absolute radical new shit poppin' up all over the place.
No.222554
why is this stickied?
No.222789
>>222750This is from 2012 fool
No.223706
>>223619I often give Kanye a lot of shit, something something obnoxious narcissist, something something overrated lyrics, but watching old stuff like this makes me respect him, at least within the tiers of a pop celebrity.
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>>223745didn't work, did it?
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bump
No.228985
>>166255I SEE YA STANDIN NEXT TO ME
WHY I'M THINKIN THAT WE'RE BOUND TO BE ALOOOONE
No.228986
>>182683Yes she's absolutely stunning, you complete nincompoop
No.229258
>>229248how i met your father is vrubgubg her back!
No.234135
>>234077WHY IS SHE BACK
I AM NOT JAPANESE GOBLIN
NO NO NO NO
No.234408
>>234135La Creatura is inescapable!
No.234411
>>229248>Hannah MontanaLooking back to this, it was some wack shit, that kind of mass of young teen show is a product of the 90s/2000s and modern imitations fail to grasp the "magic" of this stupidly popular shit.
No.236118
>>236109i forget wht does this finnish song mean
how did that crossover with japanese weeb anime?
wht anime btw
No.236119
>>236118levan Polka
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ievan_polkka Anime:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loituma_Girl It was the age that anime and odd flash animation got used randomly in music videos and other stuff.
No.236121
>>236119oh fuck i forgot it's bleach
that artstyle and leek threw me off as some slice of life anime
it's so cool how one person's unique different interests and backgrounds
together combined created a fun sensation for everybody else
being yourself really does help
No.236128
>>236121Indeed. It's something that could only be made in that time, today the corporate hold on anime and music and other industries has made everything too formulaic and dead. The fall of the USSR kind of shook up the entire world and it, alongside the economic instability of the 90s and inflation of the 2000s made for a unique breeding ground of innovation and wacky shit.
Honestly I miss the strange retro-futurism of the 90s/early 2000s.
No.236933
>>229185TBH I never liked Aqua Teen Hunger Force, it bored the shit out of me, like most of Adult Svim.
No.237042
Millennials have become just like their boomer elders they swore to undo.
All the idpol culture is blamed on Gen Z just bc Zoomers we're old enough to have Twitter. Millennials created the cringe they accuse Gen Z of doing.
No.237044
>>163102>>160177The 1970s was peak in fashion and music. No other decade could touch it.
People grew their hair out natural. No goofy mohawks or beehives, no baggy clothes, no two minute ditties. Songs were three minutes long at minimum.
Fashion went to shit in the 80s- mid 2000s
>>163094That's the Millennials. Any Zoomers stuck with 200ps nostalgia got infected with the Millennials' anti-zoomer bug.
>>158962Actually, back before the 1990s, it was common for elementary schoolers to diddle and fuck each other.
No.237144
>>237142never heard of 'playing doctor'? or 'show me yours I'll show you mine'?
No.237148
>>237144That's not kids diddling each other you fucking tool. The entire point of that societal meme (as in the original meaning of meme) refers to the innocence of children not understanding the inappropriate nature of that, given that at that age MOST children do not comprehend sex or sexual encounters. Kids today are not so because they generally get exposed to a lot of sexual and fucked up shit much earlier.
No.238042
>>237148>>237148You are truly naive. You have no idea how worldly kids were back then.
Kids smoked, fucked each other and did under-the-table jobs.
The kids back then may not have had Internet, but the had dads porn mags. The boys would suck each other off and solicit grown men. Ask your local boomer about his sexual escapades. Most kids nowadays get exposed to more porn but they don't have any physical sexual experience until their 20s.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) No.238045
>>237142Millennial OGs truly are revisionists of history. They really have no idea how dark and edgy things back then were.
It's not their fault. They had their lives supervised to a T.
No.238046
>>237148>Being this dumbWow…
Millennials truly are dumb about life before the 2000s. They think that their mundane/sheltered childhood experiences was the norm for past generations.
I cannot wait until when millennials get old and are quizzed on music and tech before 1989.
No.238228
>>238042>Kids smoked, fucked each other and did under-the-table jobs.No I'm not naiive, I remember the times, pre-pubescent children were not doing under-the-table jobs, they didn't smoke and there is a massive step between all of that and fucking you pedophilic sex-fiend.
>the had dads porn mags.Usually they lifted them from stores or dumpster dived for them, and half the time it's because "haha boobs". Also again, not pre-pubescent children you speedreader. I'm not even going into the fact that pornography today is markedly different and far less censored. Back in the day TV rarely had naked girls or things like that unless it'd be an adult movie and had a minimum PG-13 or higher rating.
>Local boomerI have, I got plenty of information working at a bar.
>but they don't have any physical sexual experience until their 20s That's not the same thing, having sexual experiences in your teens is not the same as fucking as "kids" that's not kids, that's teenagers, FFS.
>>238045 >Hurr millenial u don't know how edgy it wuz Bitch the fuck are you jawing about? No mofo,
>They had their lives supervised to a T.I spent every day of my childhood outside until past sunset, running around getting into fights with the neighboring kid gangs and other shit. But nobody in elementary school had much idea about sex, kids that age are still teasing about cooties unironically.
>>238046 Samefagging about your projected "muh milleniuls" is a fucking hilarious retardation, but it doesn't make you right. Go back to your ERP threads or whatever reddit pedoforum you're from
>before 1989LMAO you've really tossed the goalposts back.
Anyway this sordid pedo-discussion ends here, you're derailing the thread, faggots.
No.238244
^
Bunch of blatant generational IDpol divide and conquer shit.
No.238757
>>238228Again, you're only looking at your childhood decade. Youthful innocence was less before the 1990s.
People only became wary of the whereabouts of their children in the late 1980s because of famous cases like Adam Walsh.
Age limit laws weren't enforced heavily back then. Kids could drop out of school at 14 and work full-time. Finishing high school was a big deal back then. Entering college was an even bigger deal because those occasions were meant for the exceptionally bright.
Kids started dating at eight and were trained with guns.
I'm sorry, but prepubescent worldliness isn't because of the Internet.
No.238759
>>212164He cannot help it.
People have short term memory. They act like the previous decade was Eden, despite the seeds of fbi.gov existing there.
Millennial nostalgia is even more dissonant than Boomer nostalgia. In fact, what do millennials have to truly be nostalgic about other than pixelated sprite games?
No.238764
>>162821>It's one thing to be so online in adult years I really do not think it's good for kids to grow up on the Internet since they are still developing.There's nothing wrong with kids having Internet. The real problem is all he liability laws banning kids from doing anything online or real life. Also, how is wasting away online in post-pubescence any better?
Brain development is a shitty excuse used by adults to degenerate themselves and leave kids to fend for themselves?
I remember before Internet, people were complaining about TV. Before TV, it was radio. Before radio? It was comic books.
If your concern is kids surfing the net for two-thirds of the day, fine. But to say kids having Internet as an occasional pleasure is automatically bad?
The real reason why kids surf online is because there's a shitload of liability laws that ban kids from doing anything in the real world. And everything costs money. So, they have to rely on mom and dad to pick them up and drop them off. That's why we have online gadgets. They're a one time but, and don't require kids to be driven everywhere. Maybe if Western society allows kids to be integrated with adult society instead wasting away in school and mediocre rec, maybe youth depression would go down.
Again, the creation of adolescence was the biggest mistake made by modern society.
No.238768
Tbh pleasure is actually bad.
Neil Postmaster was right or whatever.
No.238887
>>238757>Youthful innocence was less before the 1990s>1990s1) the 90s did not have a lot of
"youthful innocence" shit was dark AF in a lot of places, Heroin Chic even go into child beauty pageants and it was fucking horrifying. That's just the USA.
2) you're shifting goalposts
3) That's just incorrect. straight up.
>Kids could drop out of school at 14 and work full-timeBut most did not and 14 is NOT prepubescent, fucking hell, do you people READ or are you intentionally being obtuse?
>Entering college was an even bigger deal because those occasions were meant for the exceptionally brightThat has nothing to do with sexual innocence FFS, this is tangential to the entire fucking thread let alone my argument.
>Kids started dating at eight and were trained with guns. Yeah, no. Those are not even in the same ballpark of related, and most US parents didn't have the idiocy to teach gun use to underage children. I'm not even talking about the nonsense of "8 year olds having dates"
>prepubescent worldliness isn't because of the Internet.You're a goalpost shifting idiot.
>>238760 >samefag crisis be like; [projection time]>>238759 >hey act like the previous decade was Eden<claimed nobody everPeople don't claim that at all, they just claim that the decade had been better than the current one in many regards and that is true
>the seeds of fbi.gov existing thereLMAO I think you missed the past half century of fed ops
>Muh millenial nostalgia! Le boomers! Anyone that uses this terminology and "hurr nostalgia" as an "argument" automatically have 0 credibility.
>what do millennials have to truly be nostalgic about other than pixelated sprite gamesAn entire thread has been talking about what they had, if you spent more time reading and living in that time than you do bitching and pretending to be an adult, you'd realize that.
>>238764>I remember before Internet, people were complaining about TV<radaio and comic boosBecause, this might come as a big shocker for you but media depictions have influence and lack of regulation let corporations push all sorts of messages and shitty content on TV, in comic books or on the radio. The consequences of removing said regulations include shit like that massive fuck up of a 'Rapture' in 2012 that happened because a schizo fringe Christian on the radio convinced millions of adult people that Judgement Day is coming.
>to say kids having Internet as an occasional pleasure is automatically badNobody claimed this.
>The real reason why kids surf online is because there's a shitload of liability laws that ban kids from doing anything in the real world. And everything costs moneyNo, they also just don't know better, they're given ipads and tablets as children to keep them silent as little kids and later they don't seek to go outside and play because they are already terminally online. They don't go outside to play because parents in burgerland don't want to invest the time and energy actually raising their kids and delegate that to the computer and school and other shit, thus the eternal American crisis of parents and kids being alienated from one another to the point of being strangers in all but blood.
No.238897
>>238887> the 90s did not have a lot of "youthful innocence" shit was dark AF in a lot of places, Heroin Chic even go into child beauty pageants and it was fucking horrifying. That's just the USA.
Now, imagine how much less it was before then.
>No, they also just don't know better, they're given ipads and tablets as children to keep them silent as little kids and later they don't seek to go outside and play because they are already terminally online. They don't go outside to play because parents in burgerland don't want to invest the time and energy actually raising their kids and delegate that to the computer and school and other shit, thus the eternal American crisis of parents and kids being alienated from one another to the point of being strangers in all but blood.Not exactly. Even with gadgets, kids still wanna play outside. But again, there's liability laws. I dunno where you live, but in US, kids whom are seen roaming in the suburbs with adult supervision have cops called on them.
Kids aren't allowed to go anywhere by themselves.
The only fun they can have is their gadget.
But the rest of your post is right about being shuffled to school and home.
>An entire thread has been talking about what they had, if you spent more time reading and living in that time than you do bitching and pretending to be an adult, you'd realize that. >Pretending to be adult…😂😂😂😂>Anyone who disagrees with me is a kid.Look alot of millennial nostalgia is just stuff that can easily be recreated.
Wacky surreal cartoons on Nick and CN?
Bruh, we now have original content on YouTube.
>Yeah, no. Those are not even in the same ballpark of related, and most US parents didn't have the idiocy to teach gun use to underage children. I'm not even talking about the nonsense of "8 year olds having dates"Actually that was a thing. Back before the 1970s, kids were trained with guns. And they could have dates. They had childhood sweethearts.
Kids did grow up faster back then.
All I'm saying is that compared to past generations, there's not much for millennials to be nostalgic about.
In fact, childhood nostalgia in general is overrated anyway.
It's just trying to in touch with the "inner child." And this excessive desire to bring out the inner child in our postmodern culture is making a failed-adult society.
It's why we have people in their thirties and forties whining about "adulting" while they waste away in crummy manholes watching old VHS and playing PlayStation/XBox Live being loud and rowdy.
No.238899
>>238897>in US, kids whom are seen roaming in the suburbs without* adult supervision have cops called on them.Typo error.
Also:>Because, this might come as a big shocker for you but media depictions have influence and lack of regulation let corporations push all sorts of messages and shitty content on TV, in comic books or on the radio. The consequences of removing said regulations include shit like that massive fuck up of a 'Rapture' in 2012 that happened because a schizo fringe Christian on the radio convinced millions of adult people that Judgement Day is coming.
There's alot of regulation in place nowadays compared to back then.
Hell, War Of The World's radio broadcast back in the 1930s caused mass hysteria.
Disney movies showed military propoganda in the 40s.
People are just desperate to believe in something, anything.
No.238900
>>238897>All of thisI could pick this apart, but the emojis, clear redditor style and other nonsense indicates to me that you're either genuinely retarded, or are arguing in bad faith. Most of the things you are saying are untrue, being made up of simply incorrect claims or snide bullshit and the things that are technically true are vague statements that mean nothing and have no relevance. It's ironic that you talk about people in their thirties and forties whining about "adulting" and "muh nostulgia" yet all you are demonstrating is cynical cope because clearly your childhood sucked, and you hate yourself and others for it and so you want desperately for this to be true for everyone else - and thus you project like mad. You also blatantly shift goal posts. First it was the 90s then it became the 80s and finally you're pulling into the 70s. Nobody said kids didn't get taught gun handling in the past, but even in America it is not typical for 8 year olds to be handling guns like you claim. The same applies to childhood sweethearts, you're mixing the signals about childhood "crushes" and innocent shit like that and trying to slippery-slope fallacy it into your prior pedophilic nonsense of "kids fucking". Vulgar tripe of a self-hating faggot. You attack infantilism yet have such infantile statements.
I'm just going to take one thing from your cope rant just to exemplify your ignorance and distorted understanding of things.
>we now have original content on YouTube <original content on utubelmao
Youtube does not have ANY animated series on the level of 90s and 2000s cartoons or anime. Out of MILLIONS of accounts the number of animators and animations by non-corporate media are miniscule
and the number of animations that are more than small clips is even less so. Almost all cartoons that came off youtube only became such after Nick, CN and others picked up their efforts and gave them animator teams and money to do things. Even then they pale in comparison to the content of the decades prior. They're full of the current shit of waifuism, 'le quirky humor' and art-house style that feels like (at best) a cheap imitation of something like Ed, Edd n' Eddy. And THAT'S the difference.
No.238901
>>238899>There's alot of regulation in place nowadays compared to back then Except the comics code and a ton of restrictive movie codes from the 50s and 60s got removed. The fucking Alien movie got a hard R rating (X in Britain) because it was too bloody. The same kind of content you see in PG-13 video games today is the content that almost got Alien banned in many places.
>n US, kids whom are seen roaming in the suburbs with(out) adult supervision have cops called on them. Unless you live in some wacky, prissy rich neighborhood, that's not true. As I'm typing this out there are kids from the neighborhood playing in the yard and along the street that I reside at. It's a ghetto-esque public housing complex but that doesn't change shit.
>War Of The World's radio broadcast back in the 1930s caused mass hysteria This is hilariously proving my prior point about media. Also this is stupid for an example because the broadcast had been specifically done in such a manner during a time of a severe lack of communication on a large scale, meaning that people had a hard time telling that it was fictional. This is not the same as modern media for children pushing political and social agendas blatantly.
>Disney movies showed military propaganda in the 40s Because some things that had been socially acceptable then are not today, but the overall restrictions on content have been lifted.
No.238916
>>238900You truly are coping. Again, the excessive nostalgia found in our current year is because of people 25 - 55 unable to cope with getting older.
It was bad enough with Baby Boomers doing that shit, but Millennials have made it worse.
>>238901>Also this is stupid for an example because the broadcast had been specifically done in such a manner during a time of a severe lack of communication on a large scale, meaning that people had a hard time telling that it was fictional. This is not the same as modern media for children pushing political and social agendas blatantly. Was gonna say I stand corrected for our post until this. I'm sorry, but alot of content made for kids even back then had propaganda.
No.238923
>>238916>truly are coping<I-im not copin u are!Imagine using a No U of such blatantness
>the excessive nostalgia found in our current year… unable to cope with getting older. <more goal post shifting and vague broad statements that are not an argument <Muh milleniuls and boomers! Predictable as fuck
>alot of content made for kids even back then had propaganda.Not in the blatant manner that they do today. Outside of G.I. Joe almost none of the popular cartoons and anime of the 20th century had the level of idpol and blatant messaging like modern ones do. Even Captain Planet at least had self-awareness and didn't promote specific identity nonsense. Anime like GATE did not get unironically produced in that era, because people of the time weren't yet retarded enough to shill for fashie-liberal propaganda.
No.238937
>>238899>There's alot of regulation in place nowadays compared to back then.There is a lot of regulation now (mostly done by private institutions) compared to the 1980s, but media made prior to the 70's was pretty damn restricted. Yeah, violence often got portrayed in the 30s and 40s, but ladies were still getting the vapors because Clark Gable said "damn" on-screen. Then you had the blackballing of communists and the active suppression of subversive thought in general. The media era that occured between the late-Sixties and the early-Nineties was something of an aberration where media producers could get away with just about anything provided they marketed it to the right crowds. Then the late-Nineties happened, and all that shit started getting reigned in, usually by some megacorp that bought up all of its competitors and then decreed that all of its new properties would have to advance a particular ideology (eg. Disney and AOL-Time-Warner).
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>>238923>Not in the blatant manner that they do today. Outside of G.I. Joe almost none of the popular cartoons and anime of the 20th century had the level of idpol and blatant messaging like modern ones do.Oddly enough, while cartoons were light on political shit in the 80s and early-90s, kids' live-action programming was drowning in it. Little Me quickly learned that "very special episode" meant that it was going to suck.
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>>239017Anyone have this at top resolution… for research purposes
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>>240032>>239017>>239018still one of the goatest music videos
i remember seeing it in watchmojo's list
i need to know everything behind this video, the making of, also at the top resolution
like the other anon, but i just want to jack off, no research
No.246875
>>246500>>246498Never got the appeal of the Diary series TBH
No.246897
>being nostalgic for capitalist consumershit
No.246968
>>246897Consequences of generation gaps/age segregation. The real problem in modern society is the obsession with age numbers
No.247130
>>246897>Stop having fun remembering your past! There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, and while quality control is important I don't give a fuck about people trying to police every little thing to the point of absurdity, FFS you're posting on an imageboard, get off your high-horse.
No.250023
I wonder where the girl in the OP is these days
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>>250040Oops wrong thread
No.250129
>>210800>>210805>2006 was dope>2006 was litWhat's so special about 2006? 2006 had to be one of the most basic boring sterile years in human history. Only thing I remember about 2006 was people being scared of 6/6/06 and that's about it. Other than that, it was B O R I N G.
No.250230
>>250129Its because you're a boring person anon. it's not about the year its about the fun you could have in that time period.
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>>250230>Its because you're a boring person anon. it's not about the year its about the fun you could have in that time period.Except the mid-2000s were actually boring. I had my fun as a kid but I couldn't ignore the fact that 2006 was bland, boring, and had no character. The millennium optimism had died at this point.
Most music sucked ass, Most movies sucked ass. TV sucked ass. The mainstream fashion sucked BALLS. and the next tech boom/cultural shift of the late 2000s was still to come. It was a weird limbo time period. The only thing it had going on was vidya. That shit was pretty awesome but other than that, the mid-2000s sucked.
Millennials during this era were already nostalgic for the 90s and well I can't blame them. And like this anon said ->
>>158479 the 2010s were miles better. I'd thought maybe in the 2020s I would find the mid-2000s nostalgic but nope. I still find them as equally bland and stale as I did when I was a kid.
>>250278>2006 sucked, but flash games, garish emo fashion, etc. were fun. Also this album.Agreed
No.250502
>>250480Anon 158479 is aa retard. And man this feels more like YOU missed out on all the fun
>mainstream fashionsucks even more today, skinny jeans are retarded and yoga pants are boring
>Most music sucked ass, Most movies sucked ass. TV sucked ass So did the majority of almost every decade since the 70s, the only reason it is different for the 2000s is because people recall the good stuff and forget the forgettable bad stuff. The 2000s haven't had enough time pass for that.
>2010s better Nah, The majority of the 2010s stuff I liked is stuff that either echoes back to IPs from the prior decades like the 2000s or is just overhyped. Music in the 2010s? Fucking terrible, at least 2000s music had memorable shittiness the 2010s range from garbage to non-music advertised as music. The 90s and 2000s are probably my happiest years. Don't get me wrong the 2000s are far from perfect, but it had a charm and insanity that the 2010s feels like it ramped up to 11 and made it all tiresome, single-faced and dead.
No.250549
>>250502>sucks even more todayIt sucks even more today because Gen Z is emulating the same horrible grandma baggy fashion trends from the late 90s-2000s. I'm just cringing at the mere thought that Ed Hardy fashion will make a comeback too. Holy fuck.
Honestly, millennials had better fashion taste in the 2010s
>skinny jeans are retarded and yoga pants are boring That's more of an early 2010s thing though, and there was more to fashion than just that.
>So did the majority of almost every decade since the 70s, the only reason it is different for the 2000s is that people recall the good stuff and forget the forgettable bad stuff. The 2000s haven't had enough time pass for thatNot really. That would apply if the 2000s were a good decade, to begin with, but it wasn't. Same reason why people don't look fondly at the 1930s and 1940s.
People in the 2000s knew the 2000s sucked ass. There was an aura of pessimism at the time. GTA IV perfectly captured this pessimism everyone had at the time in the game. I would define the 2000s as an over-commercialized bling glitter era. No diverse creation. Everything had to come from big American corporate overlords which is why people liked the Internet instead. Now of course the latter has become commercialized by FAANG.
In terms of films, the 90s and the 2010s had a lot more quality films than the 2000s. The 2000s didn't have as many masterpieces as other decades.
With music, it also sucked. Songs were full of auto-tune. Rock music was replaced by nu-metal. Rap went from talking about social issues and poverty to club music. Disney pop was unironically a thing.
I like 50 cent, but just there just aren't any bangers from the 2000s. It was all commercialized garbage at that point, especially when music labels became so draconian with their lawsuits of the RIAA. Turn on the radio and all you would hear was Maroon 5, Nickelback, Avril Lavigne, Sum 41, Evanescence, and every single by Hillary Duff.
There's a reason why the 80s/90s bands were still touring and finding new fans in the 2000s. It's because the 2000s never found a replacement for those bands.
>Music in the 2010s? Fucking terribleMusic in the 2010s was much more diverse than in the 2000s thanks to the rise of the internet. It's unfair to sign off what the 2010s produced especially when are tons of artists with good talent out there. If it was the 2000s, and they didn't have a contract with a label, they were much shit out of luck from getting their music heard by a bigger global audience.
>Don't get me wrong the 2000s are far from perfect, but it had a charm and insanity that the 2010s feels like it ramped up to 11 and made it all tiresome, single-faced, and deadYeah, I agree on this to a certain extent. I have many fond memories of 2010-2016 and even early 2017 but not so much for late 2017-2019.
No.250555
>>250549>>250502Skinny jeans rule and were big in the '00s too.
No.250556
>>250549>It sucks even more today because Gen Z is emulating the same horrible grandma baggy fashion trends from the late 90s-2000sNo, it imitates the fashion trends but turns it from mildly stupid and garish to just retarded.
>That's more of an early 2010s thing though, and there was more to fashion than just that. Not really, not in my area and that shit is still the fad.
>That would apply if the 2000s were a good decade, to begin with, but it wasn't. <implying the 70s, 80s and 90s wr good decades in the USAThe 80s and 90s are only good because the 2000s sucked in comparison, but the 2000s are so fun because by comparison the 2010s are totally lame.
>There was an aura of pessimism at the time True, but it also spurred a real wild ride as internet 'culture' took off and society wasn't totally retarded and social-media obsessed.
>Songs were full of auto-tune And now is any different? At least the 2000s had shit like Green Day and Caro Emerald and meme-level shit.
>Rap went from talking about social issues and poverty to club music. That's a late 2000s thing, almost a 2010s thing that only solidified in the 2010s.
>Disney pop was unironically a thing. And hilarious, still better than the reality tv I see today from them.
>usic in the 2010s was much more diverse than in the 2000s thanks to the rise of the internet That's fan creations online and that's something that started off in the 2000s from AMVs to Linkin Park and other stuff. Today its a desert of samefaced shit and you have to shovel through millions of shit videos to find good new stuff.
>I have many fond memories of 2010-2016 and even early 2017 but not so much for late 2017-2019. For me the 2000s charm lasted up til 2013-14 so barely into the 2010s. Trump's chaotic arrival briefly provided a good source of memery and entertainment of the same kind as the 2000s but its died off again.
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>>250555>Skinny jeans rule and were big in the '00s too.Skinny jeans are unironic faggot shit. They're uncomfortable, tight on your genitals and cut off blood, they also straight up look gay as fuck. And no in the 2000s that had been the style for GIRLS, guys didn't get caught dead wearing that stuff.
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>>250556>No, it imitates the fashion trends but turns it from mildly stupid and garish to just retarded. Anon, everyone agrees the 2000s fashion wasn't mildly stupid, it was plain stupid. Baggy fashion looked stupid in the late 90s and 2000s.
>Not really, not in my area and that shit is still the fad. Do you live in Idaho? lol
>The 80s and 90s are only good because the 2000s sucked in comparison, but the 2000s are so fun because by comparison the 2010s are totally lame. There's nothing really fun about the 2000s though, and material conditions from the 70s-90s weren't as bad as they were in the 2000s. The 2010s was bad because it was a post 2008 recession era, but the internet and technology helped ease production costs by a MARGIN thus allowed for better quality content creation. Tech in the 2000s wasn't as nearly advanced yet.
>and society wasn't totally retarded and social-media obsessed. LMAO
people were very retarded back then. They weren't social media obsessed but they were still obsessed with keeping up with the status quo. Because the internet wasn't as big, people still believed in stupid shit and urban legends. and they would get VERY emotional when you questioned them.
I don't know where the meme of "people were so nice and non-confrontational and people played outside" comes from but people back were MUCH more confrontational and in your face than today, especially if you disagreed with "teh war on terr0r", because there was no TikTok or YouTube to expose them. Now people are much more careful, and the people who make headlines get their lives ruined whereas back then, people could be up in your face and get away with it. Same with shitty restaurant practices.
>That's a late 2000s thing, almost a 2010s thing that only solidified in the 2010s. No it started all the way in the early 2000s and stayed that way until the 2008 recession hit and then that's when conscious rap became popular in the 2010s with rappers like Kendrick Lamar and went back to talking about social issues until the late 2010s when rap music transitioned from conscious rap to emo rap and rage rap.
>And hilarious, still better than the reality tv I see today from them. Kek ironically enough, reality TV became popular in the 2000s.
>That's fan creations online and that's something that started off in the 2000s from AMVs to Linkin Park and other stuff. Today its a desert of samefaced shit and you have to shovel through millions of shit videos to find good new stuff. Well yeah and the current commercialized garbage you see online is exactly what people were trying to escape back in the 2000s.
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>>250581>Do you live in IdahoNo, East Coast baby and its the same in Cali last time I managed to visit it.
I disagree and agree with some of the stuff in your post but my point is all this shit in the 2000s, no matter the amount you may consider it to (I don't personally put it at the levels you claim) is magnified tenfold in the mid-late 2010s and I prefer the insanity of the 2000s that at least had people be PEOPLE and not walking memes.
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>>250559I think they're comfy
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>>250607They totally are if you get the expensive ones. They bend in all the right places and never chafe, except on the calves and thighs when you put them on in the morning.
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>>250607>>250611You must be some skinny people, I literally popped the seams on ones I tried on because they just taper so nastily.
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All this arguing over what the Aughts and the Teens were like makes me wonder how much of the difference is just regional. I know my East Coast wife and I describe the 1990s in two spectacularly different ways. She describes an East Coast "Nineties" where everyone dresssed in bright colors like they were on Seinfeld, listened to boy bands and used hairspray. The West Coast "Nineties" that I remember saw everyone wearing second-hand t-shirts and torn jeans, having straight waist-length hair, and listening to Soundgarden. We both remember the same cartoons and video games, though. Maybe the Aughts and the Teens were the same way, where the East Coast experience was just way the hell different than the West Coast experience.
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>>250559Nah, I was alive. Skinny jeans looking good on guys was like the central thesis of emo fashion, to the point a lot of guys actually were wearing girl jeans so they'd be even tighter. And it did look gay as fuck, but that was the point.
>>250607Tbh my favorite are the uncomfy kind. They used to feel like putting on a suit of armor, now they're all stretch.
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>>250615I'm not counting Emos, they are the only guys that could pull it off and not look like total retards (source though I had never been Emo, I had Emo friends and they were cool).
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>>250656Nah skaters loved cargo pants and a lot of the pros did baggy clothing to hide knee pads and be "dangerous and cool" I remember so many people fucking up for it, but that's the works.
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