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 No.326068[View All]

My last thread reached 500 replies again. So I chose to make another thread since the last ones seemed quite popular. I will try to not make long-winded posts again and keep them brief instead. Unless I feel differently about it.

For the uninitiated, I give guys advice on how to get casual sex with women. Perhaps some of you are interested in that. I think even when you are aiming for a relationship you will generally need to know how to be sexually attractive to women and how to sexually advance with women.

That aside, here are my last two threads. I wrote long-winded posts about approaching girls at the club, flirting, physical escalation, inner game, etc in there.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211217151615/https://leftypol.org/siberia/res/172363.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20221021222639/https://leftypol.org/siberia/res/207044.html

Feel free to ask me for advice.
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 No.341148

>>341146
>Should I respond for sloppy seconds?
Probably not, you definitely shouldn't take her back whatever you do. It will only end worse the next time.

 No.341152

>>341148
But I'm thirsty for a good fuck, ahhhh

 No.341164

>>341146
this is supposed to be a thread for incels to help get laid and talk to women, not chad's problems.

 No.341167

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>>341152

>>341164
Getting the gf is only the first battle. You'll also need to know what to do when you get there.

 No.341168

>>341146
No offense mate, but no, you should not respond, because from that post of yours you seem like kind of a cunt.

 No.341169

>>341167
You've been gone now almost a year
And you ask me to forget and forgive
Later, baby
Catch you on the rebound
The rebound
You didn't even write me or drop me a postcard
Now you want to come back and make a new start
Later, baby
Catch you on the rebound
The rebound
Oh, you were the first love that I ever had
But you've been gone so long now I don't feel so bad
Later, baby
Catch you on the rebound
The rebound

Rebound
I was hopin' and prayin' that I'd see the day
When I could tell you to your face
Later, baby
Catch you on the rebound
The rebound
Rebound
Rebound

 No.341307

>>340548
>Like I said I don't like talking
Unironically go to therapy or something. Talking is basically the core of what it means to be human.

 No.341308

>>341307
Is it? Everyone wants a great listener, nobody wants a great talker.

 No.341360

>>341308
I mean, typically when you are "talking to someone" you each take turns listening and actually talking. Talking and listening implicate each other.
Being a great listener is usually going to involve saying a least a little bit at appropriate moments - at the very least as a show that you are listening.

 No.341365

>>341360
Truth is people love the sound of their own voice.
>I don't be stressin' 'bout none of these uyghas
>When they be talkin', I don't even listen
>Tellin' me secrets, I probably forget it
Life is easier when you realize it.

 No.341423

Fuck how do I prevent myself from slipping into despair. Every time it seems my life is taking turn for the better I get smacked back to reality, get incredibly sad, ruin my diet with confort eating, my sleep by crying at night, start falling back on my responsibilities due to lack of motivation, procrastimate by binge watching blackpill youtube videos, just turn into a fucking mess.

 No.341494

>>341365
Thisis especailly true when deaing with ghetto girls. Thats why black girls are notorious for writing long messages filled with motivatoonal cliches.

They fancy themselves as preachers.

 No.341510

>>341365
I mean, we are talking. But okay.

 No.341518

>>341510
We also have no relationship to each other whatsoever. I could say:

"Yeah you're so right"

and you'd probably like me more for it, but what would it matter?

 No.341767

>>341146
Ok I responded, she just tried to friendzone me again, lol. Said something along the lines of 'how she is sorry, how I'm still important to her as a person and how she always would be there for me as a friend', so more empty words. Then in the most friendly way possible I basically told her how from my perspective I basically pulled most of the weight in the relationship from the beginning (I basically organized everything, made some sacrifices and more, I know that it doesn't work like this but I couldn't help myself from saying that) only to get dumped via text, right before my birthday party where she was expected to appear and whether she still expects me to talk to her, my ex, when I'm in a new relationship and that I don't really see all of this as a good base for an equal and symmetrical friendship. I basically view all of this as a shitty attempt to keep me in her orbit and benefit from all the things I have been doing for her without her having to commit for a romantic relationship. Again she didn't verbalize any concrete reasons for the break-up. She could have fucked some random dweeb off Bumble for all I know. In general I'm extremely allergic to how so many girls apparently consider failed relationships or even a shitty hook-up dates followed by a rejection to be a great mechanism to recruit 'friends' or a base for a durable friendships, lol. I have healthy boundaries here and there is nothing from with imposing them.

Then she thanked me again and I deleted the chat.

I shouldn't have responded and just ghosted her. Now I got basically dumped and friendzoned a second time. Cool.

 No.342002

>>341423
Sorry I don't have any specific advice for you anon but it seems to me like you need to get more comfortable with success and trust yourself more to take good care of things and make life enjoyable.

 No.342003

>>341767
>I shouldn't have responded and just ghosted her. Now I got basically dumped and friendzoned a second time. Cool.
You live and you learn.

>when I'm in a new relationship and that I don't really see all of this as a good base for an equal and symmetrical friendship.

Kinda shitty for you to be trying to take side offers if you got someone though.

 No.342012

>>342003
I'm not in a new relationship. I was talking about the future. I was basically asking whether she imagines us to still be 'friends' talking to each other behind their backs while we both have new partners. Like, how is this not going to interfere with any new relationship? Lmao. That's what I meant by 'keeping me in her orbit'. I'm apparently to stay a celibate monk or something to maintain this one-sided friendship or what? Isn't this incredible narcissistic? lol

 No.342040

>>342012
Anyway. Just blocked her everywhere now

 No.342178

>>342012
>I'm not in a new relationship. I was talking about the future. I was basically asking whether she imagines us to still be 'friends' talking to each other behind their backs while we both have new partners. Like, how is this not going to interfere with any new relationship? Lmao.
Oh my bad. You're good then. Yeah that's exactly my line of thinking.

I think if you in the friend zone it's
>Maybe they want you to make some kind of stronger play to win their affection. Do the baby "I can't live without you kind of thing" sweep them off their feet
or
>Using you like an "emotional tampon" as they say
>Using you as the backup plan
Last two often mixed together.

Either way forget them. Have some self respect.

I'm not going to say men and women can't be just friends, but a lot of these women aren't good friends to begin with. I've had some women that were good friend material. Kind of friends that made me feel good about myself, seemed like they actually gave a fuck about me and cared about me. But then again, these also seemed like kind of women who probably had latent feelings romantic feelings for me as well. So it felt like maybe I was friendzoning them. I dunno.

But yeah, don't waste your time or energy on this chick.

>>342040
>Anyway. Just blocked her everywhere now
Good, just leave it like that. I don't think it's a good idea to retread ground. Move forward, start fresh with someone else. Even if you two did get back together right now, odds are the relationship would only end up worse. How many relationships that started off wonderful that went bad after years have you heard vs. relationships that were bad for years that ended up wonderful?

Consider it dodging a bullet.

 No.342227

>>341767
>>342003
>>342012
>>342040
>>342178

Christ alive, why do adults waste so much time on romance when all they talk/think about is sex?

 No.342228

>>341767
>In general I'm extremely allergic to how so many girls apparently consider failed relationships or even a shitty hook-up dates followed by a rejection to be a great mechanism to recruit 'friends' or a base for a durable friendships, lol. I have healthy boundaries here and there is nothing from with imposing them.

FEMALE YOUTH IS A GODDESS COMPLEX

 No.342230

>>327262
Why do men always obsess over beinf a womans first time?
Even if all women you met were first timers, youre just a stepping stone.
In fact, in a way, it would be more chaotic.

 No.342258

>>342230
Having more partners indicates a diminished potential of participation in a long-term relationship. It's like asking why employers discriminate against drug addicts. Because they're unreliable and prove it through their actions. This goes both ways btw smart women know that men with a high body count can't be relied on either.

 No.342301

>>342258
>Having more partners indicates a diminished potential of participation in a long-term relationship.
Source? Hard mode: No sources with a religious background.

 No.342314

>>342301
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/m-keystat.htm#marriageprobability
Notice the huge drop in marriage status past the first marriage.

 No.342334

>>342314
You will have to elaborate how that proves what you previously said, because I don't see an immediate connection to your claim at all. We don't know anything about how many people they've had sex with before the first marriage. And whatever lower propensity there is to get married another time can be explained away with age and how difficult it becomes to find another partner.

 No.342339

>>342334
>Having more partners indicates a diminished potential of participation in a long term relationship
>Here are statistics from the CDC showing that the vast majority of marriages are first-time marriages, and that the percentage drops drastically as the number of marriages increases
>This is an example of how having more partners indicates a diminished potential of maintaining long term relationships
>You: NOOOO THIS CAN'T BE TRUE AHAGOAHEOGUAHEHG
ok whatever no sense in continuing the discussion when you willfully deny the stats. The only way you could launch an actual counter is if you claim that the majority of people in marriage stay abstinent/sex free the entire time which is ridiculous.

 No.342355

>>342339
>>Here are statistics from the CDC showing that the vast majority of marriages are first-time marriages, and that the percentage drops drastically as the number of marriages increases
>>This is an example of how having more partners indicates a diminished potential of maintaining long term relationships
That doesn't follow at all, lol. Roughly 50% of the people asked have ever been married. 20% of these 50% were married, but aren't right now (also not making any statement on whether or not they are currently in a relationship. But for simplicity's sake let's say they are all single). Then 80% of these 50% are currently married with roughly more than 3/4th in their first marriage and roughly less than 1/4th in their second or later marriage. People with more than one marriage are shoehorned into one category. Beyond the first marriage we don't know about the propensity to stay in the marriage or get a divorce. Divorce rates may decrease per marriage or increase, the point is that we can't tell from this statistic. Additionally, we don't know if the people who have been married but weren't at the time the data was taken aren't currently in a committed relationship. And as I've already said, we also don't have any data regarding how many sex partners these people had before their first marriage. I sincerely doubt their spouse was their first sex partner and every subsequent spouse was their only next sex partner. You can have people who have had 10 sex partners before their first marriage, but never getting a divorce, while you could have someone with 2 sex partners getting a divorce and staying single. A failure to get re-married may also be due to the increasing difficulty of finding a partner after divorce, rather than an inability to stay in a committed relationship due to past promiscuity. The statistic simply doesn't prove what you are saying.

 No.342364

>>342230
>Even if all women you met were first timers, youre just a stepping stone.
To what? Bitching on the internet about guys that don't want you?

 No.342407

>>342228
You say that, but young women are at the peak of their desirability. Some men complain about how unrealistically high their standards are, however young women actually can get men who meet those standards. Its not a princess syndrome if you actually are a princess, thats just knowing your worth.
It turns into entitlement once they get older, and expect the same treatment while no longer being the hottest stuff on the market.

 No.342429

>>342227
t. woman or male model

 No.342465

>>342407
>peak of desirability

Not exactly. Only in terms of looks.

>Some men complain about how unrealistically high their standards are, however young women actually can get men who meet those standards. Its not a princess syndrome if you actually are a princess, thats just knowing your worth.


Those unrealistic high standards is due to lack of self inititice in wanting to make your own bread/profit/legacy by your own merit rather than rely on the approval of others all the time.
They can just hop from catch to catch without considering the amount of investment that was given to them.

>It turns into entitlement once they get older, and expect the same treatment while no longer being the hottest stuff on the market.


Lots of that nowadays wi/h the ghetto fab generation. Women in their mid forties still dressing up like they're high school bombshells having to use twice the makeup to cover flaws and already "raised" some kids out of wedlock.

And they have no capital bor skills of their own. They still bum off friends amd family.

 No.342699

>>342227
Damn, it's almost like being in a romantic relationship is the only way for the overwhelming majority of people to be able to experience intimacy.

 No.343000

>>342699
"Intimacy".

People just want to get their genitals wet and have happy feels and a sense of ownership of sentient beings.

 No.343102

>>343000
And that is bad because?

 No.343294

Not exactly asking for advice, but I just need to get it out of me.
I've met this supposed lesbian girl on the internet and talked toher for the last 2-3 years, from the very beginning I've always thought she was beutiful, and as we talked I got geniunely interested in her and ended up falling in love. Since covid was happening we didn't met many times, and she would always invite other friends of her (mostly men) to come together. Also, she would seem reluctant to have physical contact with me. I was always competely open about my feelings for her, but she consistently affirmed her sexuality, and thus I had given up on any romantic prospects with her. After all that, she invited me to go to her birthday party at a nightclub. Once I got there she was quite drunk and much more open than she had ever been. After sometime she asked me for a kiss, and so we kissed, later we sat on a table and she started fondling my face while saying she would date me, if she was into guys. Right after that she kissed a complete stranger that sat next to her, and then went up to make out with her friends (I didn't actually saw her doing it, but she herself said it the other day).
That was basically the worst blackpill I've taken in my life. It feels like I was a much more confident, focused and organized man before her. Now I'm currently trying to completely forget her, while also improving myself, though I feel like I simply cannot trust people anymore

 No.343305

>>343294
>I feel like I simply cannot trust people anymore
She didnt break your trust in any way thought.

 No.343321

>>343294
This is 100% on you for letting yourself develop feelings for a lesbian. Women usually don't see stuff like making out and other forms of physical affection as inherently sexual the way a lot of men do. Straight girls will get drunk and make out with their girl friends.
>I feel like I simply cannot trust people anymore
You need to get over yourself. If you tell a woman you are into her (repeatedly) and she tells you she likes women (repeatedly) and you think she will "relent" at some point, you just delusionally think you're entitled to (change) her. The fault is with you and you alone, and reality will continue to kick your ass until you pull your head out of your ass.

>>342258
>>342314
Number of marriages and number of partners is not the same thing, nor is relative body count the same as virgin vs non-virgin as asked by >>342230
The reason (some) men have a fixation on virginity is because of a desire to control a woman and specifically to prevent her from making any comparisons that might lead her to try to… (horror!) try to get something better out of a relationship. It's hard to realize how awful your partner is at sex if you have nothing to compare to. That's the bottom line. They don't even want to get good at fucking to keep a woman's interest; they just want to own a woman like property so they can treat her as a thing to fuck.

 No.343326

>>343321
>Number of marriages and number of partners is not the same thing, nor is relative body count the same as virgin vs non-virgin as asked by >>342230
The reason (some) men have a fixation on virginity is because of a desire to control a woman and specifically to prevent her from making any comparisons that might lead her to try to… (horror!) try to get something better out of a relationship. It's hard to realize how awful your partner is at sex if you have nothing to compare to. That's the bottom line. They don't even want to get good at fucking to keep a woman's interest; they just want to own a woman like property so they can treat her as a thing to fuck.


Women do the same thing in a way. Romantic relationships are all God complexes.

 No.343329

>>343321
>letting yourself develop feelings
How do you prevent that?

 No.343331

>>343329
Controlling your emotions is a basic skill dude.
When you start to feel something you shouldn't, you are supposed to recognize it and either let go of the feeling or (if you can't do that) remove yourself from whatever context is causing those feelings. In the case of catching feelings for someone, direct your attention elsewhere. Don't pursue someone if you know it won't go anywhere. Instead, go look for women elsewhere or just go jerk off instead. But if you're continually trying to get with a woman who's made it clear multiple times already that she's just not interested, there is probably a more basic issue with not recognizing that your feelings and reality don't match. It's normal to develop feelings that won't be reciprocated. What's not normal is to refuse to accept that. Move on to doing something else and the feelings will fade.

It also sounds like a lack of experience with relationships. If you've actually had feelings reciprocated and developed in a relationship before, this kind of pining for someone you can't get with will be put into better perspective.

 No.343333

>>343331
So the solution is to just ghost that person?

 No.343338

>>343333
No.
It's to put more (emotional) distance between you if you get these feelings around them and to distract yourself when you get these feelings thinking about them when you're not around them. If you've already said (again, multiple times) how you feel, then she should understand if you say that you need to be more distant because you don't want to have those feelings. If she has a problem with that, then that's her problem. But if you're not interested in being her friend and only around her because you have romantic feelings, then you are the one leading her on.

 No.343341

>>343338
I'm not a lesbian lover anon, sorry for the confusion.

 No.343343

>>343341
The answer applies generally, so I'm answering as if I was responding to the same person.

 No.343354

>>343321
>You need to get over yourself. If you tell a woman you are into her (repeatedly) and she tells you she likes women (repeatedly) and you think she will "relent" at some point, you just delusionally think you're entitled to (change) her. The fault is with you and you alone, and reality will continue to kick your ass until you pull your head out of your ass.
<I was always competely open about my feelings for her
<she consistently affirmed her sexuality
<thus I had given up on any romantic prospects with her
<she started fondling my face while saying she would date me, if she was into guys (after kissing several)

 No.343393

>>343354
>>343354
><thus I had given up on any romantic prospects with her
><she started fondling my face while saying she would date me, if she was into guys (after kissing several)
>>343321
>Women usually don't see stuff like making out and other forms of physical affection as inherently sexual the way a lot of men do. Straight girls will get drunk and make out with their girl friends.

 No.343400

So I met this unmarried 35 year old Japanese woman on a language app that works as a teacher in a neighboring town and we had a ONS. She lives 2 hours away from me but then I entered a 4 months relationship with another girl that later fizzled out. We re-established contact again and now we are going out on Saturday. She's still quite cute, has a great milfy figure for a 35 year old (I'm 6 years younger) if it just weren't for the typical crooked Japanese teeth. I have a Japanese school girl uniform that I have made past hook-ups/gf wear. I have never had a negative reaction so far. Should I take it with me? It won't hurt to ask, right. All she can do is say no, and this is not going to develop into a relationship anyway, so I can risk being upfront about being pervy.

 No.343419

>>343400
All right, thats it, get the fuck out sex havers, make your own thread for humblebraging.


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