Egypt was a successful multiracial state.
Liberals don't like multiracial states it's the reason they always obsess over ethno nationalism through the balkanization of foreign countries.
Yeah I don't think there were people who could literally pass in Northern Germany living in Egypt at the time tho
I love how Civ 6 potrayed Ramses as white and Cleopatra as brown even though it was the other way around
Motherfucker I wasn't talking about the Germans. You could easily pass as Egyptian if you where Greek in northern Egypt.
I shouldn't even say "passing" as the idea of a Egyptian race doesn't really make sense.
Lol how? He look very meditterranean
To be fair, they also made Hammurabi too black.
They don't have an agenda, they're just stupid (or doing this for publicity).>>382285
Also this. Ptolemies were notoriously inbred and never mixed with the locals.
I don't know shit about Egyptian history but modern Egyptians definitely look like this. No clue if they did historically though.
Paradox games also do this but they make it abstract enough that nerds are duped into thinking it's actually a historical simulation
>>382474>Paradox games also do this>>382472>Joking aside the entire core mechanics of Civ is based on some kind of ultra-reactionary essentializing of cultures
Is this why reactionaries can like them so much?
the games force you to play as a reactionary (because it's a game that necessarily has to have winners and losers) and then they transpose that on to reality and assume reality works like video games so adopting reactionary politics is justified to "win"
At least barbarians in VI can form city-states eventually
I think he meant Firaxis representation of Ramses looked like a literal Saxon
You can win by being super progressive though. If anything it's easier, go full tech, full social development, pick all progressive laws, only war in self defense or against fascist regimes (depending on game).
Yeah but one of the more fucked up things is the fact that whether the game will be more peaceful or more violent depends on which other civs are in it, which has some very "despite making up only 13% of the population" vibes.
They brownwashed the Scythian leader so it balances out.
In all seriousness, only the blue eyes are dumb, his skin tone and features are perfectly normal in Egypt and North Africa more generally.
Isn't it more likely that autistic people are drawn to map games
No it doesn't. In reality, some cultures and leaders are simply more warlike than others, the game is just representing that fact.
No culture exists independent of context, unlike in these games where e.g. the Aztecs or the Chinese can be plopped down on an RNG map. The propensity of a culture to go to war is a function of its historical conditions, not some ineffable quality of that people. But in these games you can bet that if you see Montezuma pop up you are gonna be fighting some wars.
yes, im autistic and i am addicted to map painting games.
What do you expect? If all factions were identical and just affected by material conditions then the game would be boring. A game of actual realistic civilisational growth would be interesting but would be a truly immense and possibly impossible undertaking. After all if the technology to perfectly simulate the world existed then the bourg would keep it to themselves to help them rule.
Damn it's almost like the idea of turning real life cultures into abstract and trans-historical factions in a video game inherently has some problematic implications.
Is fun a bourgeois construct? Is having fun bourgeois?
They like Civ V more than VI it's more chvddy
>>382734>if you think art reflects underlying cultural biases you hate fun
Just because there are racist elements of something doesn't mean you have to stop enjoying it. Everything doesn't have to perfectly reflect your politics, and you don't have to feel bad about enjoying problematic things (although maybe you should self-reflect if you feel compelled to jump to defend something if it's pointed out to have problems).
I do dislike civ, but not because it's racist. The game mechanics are pretty bad and it's unnecessarily time sink-y.
Civ V is super Chvd, civ games in general are extremely chvddy (even more than paradox games like EU4) because they let you commit literal genocide (by the name of razing cities)
>>382472> the entire core mechanics of Civ is based on some kind of ultra-reactionary essentializing of cultures into some sort of spirit that lives on through millennia and doesn't really change.
In general vidya is full of reactionary tropes and it doesn't get pointed out often enough.
It's a bit better than 10-20 years (Victoria 3 is notably less eurocentric and racist than the previous installments, and there's less AAA titles in general where western white male protagonist guns down scores of brown npcs for FreEdumB) but shit like this still persists
Paradox is trying to make its games a bit more inclusive but Firaxis keep making civ games with like 2828737373 euro civs and 5 non-euros
ridiculously high levels of twitter faggotry in this comment
>It's a bit better than 10-20 years there's less AAA titles in general where western white male protagonist guns down scores of brown npcs for FreEdumB
the only 2000-2012 AAA FPS video games i remember where you even kill brown people was modern warfare 2s favela levels and the first half of cod4, then you spend the rest of the 3 games killing whites.
you twitterfags just aren't living in reality
>Victoria 3 is notably less eurocentric and racist than the previous installments
why? because all country's are equally bland now?
>>383123>t. mad cause wrong
your (or his) perception of AAA video games from 10-20 years ago is based off of a twitter version of a reality that doesn't exist.
go touch grass, or atleast get some friends to play video games with so you can educate yourself on the subject you ignorantly talk about so you can be liberated from your twitter retardation.
Civ 6 civs for reference as of current version. Could also do it with the leaders which makes it even more disproportionate.
Some of these are arguable since EVROPA isn't well defined.
tl;dr it's like half European
Original civ: 18
Colonial spinoff: 6 (3 Anglo ones)
E Asia: 4
S Asia: 2
SE Asia: 3
W Asia: 5
wypipo>Burger>Straya>Brazil (colonial spin-off)>Byzantium (coded as white and spun off Rome)>Leaf>Dutch>Bong>Frog>Gaul>Georgia>Germany>Gran Colombia (colonial spin-off)>Greek>Hungary>Macedonia>Norway>Poland>Portugal>Rome>Russia>Scotland>Scythia>Spain>Sweden
I really dont care. PS. CIV 6 is strategy for young children at least play IV.
>>382280>They whitewashed [egyptians] to a ridiculous level
so does hollywood
Ottomans are Crakkkers
beat me to it. is this real? lmao
>>382357>To be fair, they also made Hammurabi too black.
makes sense. funny tho
Didn't they also make Tomyris brown instead of ginger? I also recall a few Civ V leaders being either too dark or too light.
based Firaxis deconstructing race essentialism
Ben Kingsley is like half Indian tho.
Yes Tomyris looks brown because apparently if you are a horse lord
lady from the steppes you can't be white. Cleopatra is probably the funniest one for being too brown.
>>383516>woman consorts with animals>not depicted as hwite
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