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 No.450993

daily reminder that working class people are not mindless zombies that are mind controlled by the bourgeoisie but actually have agency which makes them complicit and morally liable for building the ovens of concentration camps, catching runaway slaves and maintaining the existence of their settler-colony

 No.451002

This is my reaction every time I hear someone talk about slaughterhouse workers and toll it takes on their psyche. Like yeah, I am sure Auschwitz guards werent the happiest folk either.

 No.451003

>muhhhhh personal responsibility
i did not ask

 No.451004

>morals

 No.451006

>>451004
Yes, morals bitch. When you have your socialist revolution I'm sure you won't like someone raping your daughter and slitting your throat so morality is still a relevant subject. Read Kamenka.

 No.451008

People are mindless zombies tho. If they weren't they'd know better. Capitalist system takes the agecy from people, allowing them to do horrible things out of apathy.

 No.451009

>>451008
>everyone is a slave, only I’m the real free thinker

 No.451011

File: 1695118428643.png (273.25 KB, 480x563, marx morality.png)


 No.451012

>>451009
Free will doesn't exist under capitalism

 No.451018

Thinly veiled anti-German thread.

 No.451021

>>451011
I‘m sure he would laugh too if I gang raped his wife in front of him.

 No.451022

>>451018
okay Hans

 No.451028

>>450993
>all workers are fully conscious and complicit in everything because of this false equivalence I made up comparing two vastly different levels of situational agency

by that logic anyone who posts here deserve to be shot because most posters are going to be using a device made with coltan extracted by imperial plunder to post this even periphery anons

also no worker or member of an oppressed group will ever give a fuck about finger-wagging, only whether or not what you offer them gives them a better deal. You're basically acting like a lib

 No.451033

>>451028
>by that logic anyone who posts here deserve to be shot
I think you are projecting your psychopathy. You are complicit in maintaining an exploitative system and that‘s necessary to acknowledge as to not be complacent like when you believe you are completely off the hook and blame it solely on porky.

>also no worker or member of an oppressed group will ever give a fuck about finger-wagging

You are just telling on yourself, not everyone is as selfish and devoid of self-reflection.

 No.451039

>>450993
no, they have reduced culpability because of the coercive nature of capitalism, it's either work or be homeless/starve/die

 No.451040

>>451002
I worked in a slaughterhouse for like a year, I didn't actually do the killing but they showed us in the induction and it actually gave me an adrenaline rush.

 No.451041

>>451037
Get gud faget

 No.451055

>>451033
>deliberate bad faith reply that goes out of its way to miss the point and doubles down

Unsurprising from your typical everyone-is-complicit-except-me poster

Read theory and stop getting your opinions from this site

 No.451056

>>451039
This is all that needs to be said. OP is an equivocating moron

 No.451060

>>451033
> You are just telling on yourself, not everyone is as selfish and devoid of self-reflection

The literal Russian socialists of the pre-revolutionary period ran into this problem. Too many of them adopted the moralizing position of an enlightened savior, which turned off a lot of peasants from them

Self reflection is not the same as being a pretentious cunt

 No.451061

>"capitalism is voluntary" but make it sound pseudo-leftist

 No.451063

>>451061
This
Sage/hide

 No.451076

>>450993
No modern working class people have done that. You are still obsessed about the early 20th century. Modern working class people just want to have food on the table and shelter to live in. If they stop working they are destined to be poor and possibly homeless, starving and dying on the streets. AND. It doesn't fucking matter if you live in a capitalist or socialist or communist society, that is simply the economic reality in all nation states. Whether you live in America, or China, or Russia, or India, or Mexico, or Canada, or Europe, or where ever. Go to any country and you will find the working class propping up the economies and keeping the lights on and the food delivered to the local grocery stores. The only difference with capitalist/socialist/communist nations is whether the government runs the economy (centralized control) or the private sector runs the economy (decentralized free market). Sometimes, like in America and China today, it's a combination of both.

 No.451164

>>451061
>>451063
I've always found it rather interesting that the moralists and doomers and third-worldists always start crawling out of the woodwork right on cue as class-conciousness rises.


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