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 No.502502[Last 50 Posts]

Did le ebil North Koreans actually kill this uygha for stealing a poster of the glorious Eternal President Kim Il-Sung?

 No.502503

They tortured him to death but it's okay because he was white and therefore subhuman.

 No.502505

>>502503
Concise and correct.

 No.502506

Do it again Kim

 No.502510

Burgers glass the entire peninsula, level all of the cities, destroy sanitation/agriculture/sewage/dams, set fire to the villages, rape women, and kill 20% of the population to prevent economic sovereignty: i sleep

1 burger gets his shit pushed in because he thought he could fuck about: real shit

 No.502511

>>502510
Why are North KKKorean apologists so psychotic? Did your father beat you? Were you molested?

 No.502514

>>502510
Otto Warmbier was born in 1994, the Korean War ended in 1953.

 No.502515

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He was tortured.
He wasn't allowed to go to Kim Jung Un's birthday party, he missed out on a slice of strawberry cake.
TRAGIC

 No.502518

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 No.502529

It's really not that complicated. Otto was tried for subversive activity (as he should have been) and imprisoned. He realized what he had done was a grave crime and apologised in the trial, and he was ready to serve his sentence. At some point he developed a deadly disease (he had a history of such malaises). As Korean doctors could not treat his unfortunate condition, he was graciously forgiven and sent back to the U$ in the hopes that their better medical facilities would save him or at the very least his parents would see him again. Now, he was stable when he arrived back in the U$ however his condition deteriorated under the bourgeois Dokkktor's care. This may or may not have been an intentional execution for propoganda purposes. It is a sad and unfortunate story yet very simple.

 No.502535

ledtypolers dont really have much in terms of critical thinking skills, so their attitude towards US propaganda is "well then the opposite is true". North Korea is actually an authoritarian shithole with no conceprion of human rights.
>inb4 authoritarian
>inb4 rights
Yes yes, you are very smart, very edgy, very cool.

 No.502536

^

 No.502537

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>>502535
authoritarians are right about rightists not deserving any rights under authoritarian democracy.

 No.502542

>>502536
Rights are a spook. So the person above is not a Stirnerite but a typical liberal humanist.
>>502537
>not deserving any rights
>deserving
>rights
So many spooks in one sentence. Nobody deserves any rights. Not a single person.

 No.502547

>>502529
>Now, he was stable when he arrived back in the U$ however his condition deteriorated under the bourgeois Dokkktor's care. This may or may not have been an intentional execution for propoganda purposes.
HOLY MEDS!

 No.502550

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 No.502551

>>502542
a spook is just a social construction. society itself is socially constructed and therefore spooky. without spooks we would be like we were 300,000 years ago.

 No.502557

>>502502
There is no evidence of torture. Even a US coroner admitted it. Also there have been several other US citizens imprisoned and later relased in some agreement and none have reported being tortured. In any case it is not in their interest to torture and kill their bargaining chips.

 No.502558

>>502551
A social construct is either a spook or your property whether you put it above yourself or not.

 No.502559

>>502557
>"I never, never should have allowed myself to be lured by the United States administration to commit a crime in this country, I wish that the United States administration never manipulate people like myself in the future to commit crimes against foreign countries. I entirely beg you, the people and government of the DPRK, for your forgiveness. Please! I made the worst mistake of my life!"
He was clearly tortured. Cmon.

 No.502576

>>502502
>authoritarian
>shithole
>no conceprion of human rights
how about you fuck off back to wherever you came from retard. Authoritarian is a buzzword, DPRK is actually very good for its population relative to its wealth, and the human rights such as fair trial, access to healthcare and guaranteed housing and work are respected there.

 No.502579

>>502576
For real, I want to know what happened. I don't believe North Koreans are evil and they tortured him for stealing a poster.

 No.502581

>>502559
Feeling pressured to make an elaborate confession is one thing. Allegedly being beaten into a coma is another.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/28/otto-warmbier-torture-north-korea-coroner

 No.502582

all countries do this kind of shit. its retarded to denounce/cheer it when a country you dont/do like does it

 No.502583

>>502559
>plz swallow my retarded propaganda
kys

 No.502584

>>502576
>authoritarian and rights are liberal buzzwords
correct
>this bourgeois country is le good because of its welfarism
do you actually dislike liberalism or not

 No.502585

>>502579
the man was fragile, he caught some nasty shit in prison and eventually died from it, what else do you want ?

 No.502587

>>502584
>this bourgeois country
you are a worthless retard holy shit

 No.502588

>>502582
No, not all countries sentence you to slavery until you die if you steal a piece of paper.

 No.502589

>>502582
Not really. And given the cartoonishly evil portrayal of North Koreans by western propagandists it is definitely worth questioning such accusations.

 No.502591

>>502585
That's all :)

 No.502592

>>502576
>DPRK is actually very good for its population relative to its wealth
Perhaps if 50% of the economy wasn't about the army the people would have more wealth to be very good with.

 No.502593

>>502588
Every foreign prisoner gets released within a few years as part of an agreement

 No.502595

>>502592
>Real North Korean proles would have more funko pops to play with if le ebil Kims didn't invest so much on tanks and nukes

 No.502596

>>502588
have you seen how stuffed the hundreds of gigantic us prisons are and how the average inmate is there for like smoking weed or something?

>>502589
>cartoonishly evil portrayal of North Koreans
all countries do "cartoonishly evil" in the name of protecting private property

 No.502597

>>502595
The absolute state of the new left.
>Tanks and nukes at the price of an exploitation of the working class the Tsar would not dream of are good when the country pretend to be communist

 No.502598

>>502596
How many of them are sent into labor camps where the life expectancy is two years?

 No.502599

>>502598
life expectancy of us prisons has been constantly on a decline too. your life expectancy shortens just by virtue of being in a prison. nothing new here

 No.502600

>>502599
Listen…
Why is anyone even trying to defend this anime vilain tier dictatorship?
What's even the point, why are you doing this?

 No.502601

>>502597
Yep. They should totally not invest in military equipment even though the US is trying to pull off Libya 2.0 with them.

 No.502602

>>502581
Nobody said "beaten into coma". But just because no sign of torture was found doesnt mean he wasnt tortured, its not like torture automatically leaves permanent physical damage. And even if there wasnt any, for over a year being left in a poor hygiene cell where he contracted a disease and then not given proper medical care which lead to his coma and death, is effectively a torture.

>and the human rights such as fair trial

He was literally sentenced for 15 years in labour camp for attempting to steal a fucking poster, and clearly at the very least "pressured" into fake confession.

>>502579
>For real, I want to know what happened
They were willing to send him to prison for 15 years for stealing a poster, why would you consider torturing him a step too far?

 No.502603

>>502600
USA bad, therefore governments opposing USA good. That is as far as their analysis goes. They are completely unable to psychologically handle any ambiguity, so everything has to be black and white.

 No.502605

>>502603
I suppose it's like all the people who worship Gaddafi because he bought social peace with bread and circus.
Yeah, his pastime was to kidnap western people to ransom them but electricity was free. Okay, he have bombed civilian planes, but he gave a little bit of the oil money.
Political police? Systematic imprisonment of every one who question him? Okay but he was a good guy because the US do a very light version of what he did and when the US do it then it's bad.

 No.502606

>>502600
because people here are not retarded enough to believe KJU ressurects people like the ones that call NK a "Anime villain dictatorship"

 No.502609

It wasn’t really about the poster really.
He was being cringe and they had to put an end to it.

 No.502610

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man this must be the brightest glowing thread in the history of this board.

 No.502612

>>502609
It really wasn't about the poster. Washington wanted to end the coal vs you-dont-build-nuke program because it wasn't working. NK decided to show what happen when you do that.

And then, some people defend that on the internet.

 No.502614

>>502600
>no argument

 No.502615

"North Korea is not a democracy, there are not enough parties" mfs when I show them the election history of the US (only 2 parties win somehow):

 No.502617

>>502592
if 50% of the economy wasn't about the army dprk wouldnt exist anymore you idiot

>>502600
>anime vilain tier dictatorship
stop believing obvious bullshit and we wont have to tell you to kys you fucktard

>>502602
>just because no sign of torture was found doesnt mean he wasnt tortured
>being put in a prison is effectively a torture
the contempt I feel for morons like you is immense. Being put in solitary confinement like the west does to many of its prisoners especially the political ones is torture. Being put in a regular cell isnt.

>then not given proper medical care

everything indicate he was given proper medical care, you fucking glowie mouthpiece

>He was literally sentenced for 15 years in labour camp for attempting to steal a fucking poster, and clearly at the very least "pressured" into fake confession.

so the trial wasnt fair because the sentence sound too harsh to you and he confessed ? lmao

>why would you consider torturing him a step too far

<getting heavily condemned for an act of political significance as a foreigner from the most hostile country that did genocide scale damage to you and constantly threaten to annihilate you means torture is ok
is your reasoning "dprk is evil so they will do evil shit obviously" ?
I'd say to you to blow you brain out but Im afraid there isnt anything to destroy there

 No.502619

>>502617
>so the trial wasnt fair because the sentence sound too harsh to you and he confessed ? lmao
Yes you fucking retard, when you are forced into a confession and given 15 years for what is at most a minor act of vandalism, that isnt fair. Do you also think Saudies beheading infidels is fine?

 No.502621

>>502603
>oh yeah I know our media lies all the time to the benefit of our government and especially of foreign policy subjects, but I still believe everything they say and align with them on every occasion. The people criticizing it are simply contrarians and never did any research, unlike me who is very well informed thanks to cnn and wikipedia.

>>502605
>because he bought social peace with bread and circus.
<yeah who cares of the lives of the libyans and his crucial help to anticolonialism, he was an heckin dictator
>refusing to shit on him and to accept the framing of the US empire on him is "worship"
fucking libs

 No.502622

>>502621
>>oh yeah I know our media lies all the time
Thats great and all, but in this case the North Korean official statements are in full agreement with western ones.

 No.502623

>>502592
wait until you look up how much the united states spends on the army and police

 No.502625

>>502623
Something like 4% of the GDP.

>>502621
>his crucial help to anticolonialism
He only took the country for himself. This is no different than colonialism, he is just from the country.

 No.502627

>>502606
The sole fact that he got more than a verbal warning for stealing a poster show that NK is a hellhole.
He fucking died.

 No.502629

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Can you annoying faggots stop treating capitalist countries like cheering for your favorite sports teams? You aren't communists, you're all liberals.

 No.502631

>>502629
Ok, I am very much not NK defender, but is it capitalist? Genuinely asking, from what I understand government is in almost full control of economy and wages with minimal contact with global market.

 No.502634

You shouldnt even really be here if you dont defend one of the only two socialist countries left on earth from capitalist libel.

 No.502635

>>502631
>is it capitalist?
The proles exchange their labor for a wage.
Any question?

 No.502636

>>502634
Which one is the other? China?

 No.502639

>>502631
government ownership of the mop doesnt make it not capitalist, and like you said theres also wages and markets

 No.502642


 No.502643

>>502642
Old Castro is dead. What happen in Cuba?

 No.502644

>>502643
Nothing has substantially changed, though i will admit diaz-canel is more of a deng than a castro. Still as long as cuba doesnt substantially deviate within a year or two, it will still remain one of the most socialist systems left after the ussr collapse.

 No.502645

>>502644
Do Cubans have to trade their labor for a wage? Do they trade this money for goods and services? Can they create a new workshop, or buy and sell goods?

If yes, hos is it different than the west?

 No.502648

>>502645
Workplace democracy via taean work system in the case of korea and something similar presumably for cuba. Wages probably arent quite as small as they are in other similarly sized countries with similar resource scarcity. Furthermore nobody in north korea pays income tax, nor do they pay the unnecessary bills that we do as part of their cost of living. Hourly wages of course imply wage labor which is not one of the prerequisites of capitalism. Capitalism operates according to the logic of capital but is characterized by the private ownership of MOP, fiat currency and top-down workplace hierarchies whereas socialism, the intermediate stage between capitalism and communism, is characterized by the government control of the MOP, labor vouchers or currency backed by material value, and workplace democracy as demonstrated within the taean work system. A better argument that dprk and cuba arent socialist might be that they practice commodity production rather than production for use. What's more is that wages were actually pushed for by labor activists because paying people for the amount of time they worked rather than more abstract concepts like their work ethic seemed more helpful to proles.

 No.502654

>>502648
>Wages probably arent quite as small as they are in other similarly sized countries with similar resource scarcity
Like SK?

>Okay, money exist and you can trade your propriety including selling your labor but it isn't capitalism because we vote inside the workplace

>Please defend us on the internet when we murder a kid who stole a poster
You have a very elastic definition of where capitalism stop.

 No.502656

>>502654
>dprk murdered otto warmbier
Ok, then why was he fine for months in korean custody but immediately died upon transferring to western medical facilities? It's more likely the USA killed him. So yeah, you need to defend the dprk against yet another case of libel.

 No.502657

>>502656
>transferring to western medical facilities
For what reason?

 No.502659

>>502657
I think they framed it like a hostage negotiation.

 No.502662

>>502659
>Ok, then why was he fine for months
He was in a fucking coma!

 No.502665

>>502662
…in a coma in a stable condition before he saw western doctors.

 No.502668

>>502665
>During his release, the North Koreans provided a disc containing two magnetic resonance imaging brain scans, dated April and July 2016, showing damage to the brain.

 No.502671

>>502665
Anyway, its fucking irrelevant to the conversation, even if we assume he was murdered by CIA to make North Korea look bad (while not inconceivable, highly unlikely as having a guy who went through that around would serve as much better propaganda tool), it doesnt change the fact he was convicted for 15 years over a poster and put into a coma. Nobody should ever defend that, especially not leftists. You cant be outraged over exploitation of workers while making apologia for enslavement of random guy who did literally nothing wrong.

 No.502673

>>502671
Im actually pretty sure he was a spy

 No.502674

>>502673
And you are basing this on…?

 No.502675

>>502674
The fact that north korea wouldnt have held a guy for so long over stealing a poster

 No.502677

>>502675
But they literally did? Like you understand your reasoning here is completely circular? …they couldnt arrest him for stealing a poster because they dont arrest people for stealing a poster, therefore they couldnt arrest him for stealing a poster because…

 No.502678

>>502677
And im supposed to believe that north korea is more likely to believe an american tourist is just innocently stealing posters rather than conducting criminal surveillance activity on behalf of non friendly states?

 No.502679

>>502678
Did they ever present any such evidence? Like they had a footage of a guy putting a poster down and leaving the room. Thats it. The trial was about proving that he indeed took down a poster in employee only hotel area. Thats it. North Korean government never alleged that he did anything else, so why do you?

 No.502680

>>502558
they're all my property, but for most others they are spooks, and I am speaking of society as being spooked by the spooks, for society has not become a union of egoists seizing spooks as their property

 No.502683

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 No.502688

>>502600
you must have been a liberal until yesterday if you find defending the DPRK shocking.

 No.502689

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 No.502690

>>502592
>why does the country that had every city leveled less than 100 years ago by a brutal and indiscriminate bombing campaign act so defensive

gee idk

 No.502691

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>Liberals in this thread
Absolutely Disgusting.

 No.502696

>>502691
The Ghost of Kim Il-Sung thanks you

 No.502698

>>502691
>complain about liberals
>defends a capitalist state
uh ok

 No.502702

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 No.502704

>>502677
Why are people still going on about "15 years".
Foreign citizens imprisoned in the DPRK are normally released in a negotiation within a year or a few years at most. They are used as bargaining chips (which also makes it in their interest to treat these prisoners well). In 2009 there were two US journalists who illegally entered through China and were given 12 years. They were released in a few months.
Also he was accused of being a spy and not just a vandal.
>>502622
DPRK statement was that he contracted botulism and then took a sleeping pill after which he fell into a coma.
US President's statement was that he was tortured and beaten into a coma.

 No.502707

>>502702
>my only meme
dprk is a capitalist state with a capitalist mode of production, end of discussion

 No.502709

>>502707
you could call it a bureaucratic d*generated workers' state but certainly not a capitalist state.

 No.502736

>>502625
>He only took the country for himself
holy shit what a bunch of illiterate retard, he consistently supported various anticolonialist and panafricanist groups with guns and money, most known one is the ANC, but various other like the PFLP as well

>This is no different than colonialism

… yes it is, being a basic porkie is a lot less worse that colonialism you fucking moron. And he was better than a basic porkie.

also, he did implement a bunch of socialist policies, and his state was overall pretty well run and redistributive. Seething about gaddhafi, especially now in the light of what his security services were defending against (complete and utter destruction of his country at the hand of the west and qatar backed mercenaries) is really the mark of the worst fucking retarded libs.

 No.502741

>>502645
lol ok I refuse to believe there are ultra so disconnected from any reality, it has to be trolling

 No.502744

>>502503
>he was white
It's far worse than that. He was a Christian

 No.502754

>>502648
>Workplace democracy
holy fucking libshittery LMFAO

>>502741
ultra is when basic marxism. call me when they abolish commodity production and wage work

 No.502755

>>502736
>he consistently supported various anticolonialist and panafricanist groups
none of this is communism

>he did implement a bunch of socialist policies, and his state was overall pretty well run and redistributive

socialism is when mirroring europe but having darker skin or something

>complete and utter destruction of his country at the hand of the west

socialism is when choosing a side in conflicts between two bourgeois states too

this place is a fucking joke lmao bernie 2024 amirite guys

 No.502756

>>502754
ultra is when you think abolishing wage work is possible under these conditions and just basic marxism

 No.502758

>>502709
>bureaucratic d*generated workers' state
meaningless babble. even the ussr when fund had turned into a bourgeois state (so, capitalist), not that word salad that barely resembles trotskys crap

>but certainly not a capitalist state

stop pretending to know what capitalism even entails bro youve never made a single post of worth here

 No.502759

>>502756
>communism is impossible therefore i should call liberal reforms communism

 No.502760

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im more and more convinced 99% of leftypol gets all their information about capital from david harvey videos or some shit lmfao, you have to actively try to be this wrong about basic marxism

 No.502762

>>502758
>stop pretending to know what capitalism even entails bro youve never made a single post of worth here
i know that, thats why i do drugs instead now. i'm thinking of trying shrooms next

 No.502763

>>502760
which post are you responding to?

 No.502764

>>502762
you can always fry your retarded brain even more

 No.502765

>>502764
as opposed to what? go to college? be successful? make a career for myself? start a family? no thanks

 No.502766

>>502763
all the posts pushing for bourgeois nation-states to grab higher shares in the capitalist system in the name of "anti-imperialism"

 No.502767

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>>502762
my being in christ, shrooms are the only drugs you should ever do

 No.502768

>>502765
hopefully the next drug you take makes you stop posting

 No.502769

>>502766
i figured, but then your david harvey comment threw me off because david harvey is consistently against that sort of thing and even calls china neoliberal (say what you will about his other opinions)

 No.502770

>>502768
i love shay's colorful personality. you however are a dime-a-dozen hater. the board would be exactly the same without you.

 No.502772

>>502769
i stay away from euphemisms like neoliberalism

>>502770
yeah no wonder this place is fucking retarded lol. if i wanted to be entertained id play video games not read braindead attention whores rofl

 No.502773

>>502767
actually i lied because once i've finished my nitrous canister i'm gonna try DXM and then shrooms after if i can get my hands on some. im not opposed to taking drugs like meth or crack but i'm sure i'd immediately become too addicted to recover from it so maybe not

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 No.502777

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>>502773
if you're going to wreck your CNS with every substance known to man, at least become some kind of gonzo journalist

 No.502779

>>502775
as long as you know it's dogshit

 No.502782


 No.502783

>>502782
central nervous system

 No.502784

>>502772
>i stay away from euphemisms like neoliberalism
that's unrelated to the point being made. it doesn't make sense to accuse someone of liking david harvey for having dengist-type opinions since david harvey does not have those opinions

 No.502785

>>502765
as someone with all those things, it's hard, but it's not as bad as it sounds. i also used to be wasted all the time, so I've lived in both worlds

 No.502789

>>502788
Theres nothing wrong with scavving for a good 'cap to bring home to the family.

 No.502790

>>502781
i mean it's based on a drug fueled rampage that a journalist and his lawyer went on in the 70s when he was supposed to be covering a race in las vegas. it was never meant to have a plot. it's literally adapted from a series of articles in rolling stone.

 No.502791

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>>502619
Yes. Any questions?

 No.502863

>>502542
>not a Stirnerite but a typical liberal humanist
Tomato tomatoe innit

 No.502865

Apropos of nothing
I did realize something, I am the Nietzschean Übermensch here
Is the reason I can't really (without like emotional distress) leave long term.
Funny how that works out.

 No.502884

>>502603
I'm so much than you

 No.502885

>>502648
love u

 No.502962

>>502762
>i know that
Frustrating

 No.502963

AHEM
>FUCK LEGALISM
>FUCK CONFUCIANISM
>FUCK ASIAN VALUES
>FUCK CHINA
>FUCK SINGAPORE
>FUCK BOTH KOREAS
>FUCK JAPAN

 No.503033

>>502744
Nah, him being white is the worst aspect.

 No.503043

>>502687
>>502689
Pretty sure saying "The US also does it" isn't what we should be going for here. like if a guy shows up and says "literally everyone in nk is starving and living in a concentration camp while kim jong un cackles evilly and eats all the food", you shouldn't post the us doing the same thing, you should refute the obvious bullshit. the way you have it here it looks like you're saying, "you might be right but the us also does it".

 No.503047

>>503043
the bullshit was already refuted by others. i was going for the jugular

 No.503059

>>502759
we get it, you're trolling

 No.503060

>>502784
hmm. they never responded. seems even harder evidence they were trolling

 No.503064

>>503047
When? When you said it was normal to be sentenced 15 years to jail and be beaten in the coma over a poster? When you said it was the US fault that he died because they couldn't save his life when they gave the unconscious body? When you accused him of being a spy to justify what was done to him when the Korean could have accused him of that?

There is no possible way to defend NK in this case, yet you do it, and you do it solely because work is organized in a particular way there.

 No.503066

>What actually happened to him?
Covid.

 No.503069

CIA agent
good riddance

 No.503134

>>503043
I know, the only reason he posted it is because he explicitly claimed that the US doesn't do this.

 No.503164

>>503064
Cry harder

 No.503210

>>503064
>15 years to jail
which would not have been served in the first place because foreign prisoners are always released early.
>and be beaten in the coma
According to Trump. There is no evidence for that as admitted even by US coroners.

 No.504093

>>503210
>According to Trump

 No.504095

>which would not have been served in the first place because foreign prisoners are always released early
First of all that is not in any way a reasonable excuse, second, so if lets say a local pulls down a poster, what is happening then?

 No.504109

>>503210
I mean if you don't believe the torture theory then how did he die then? He just randomly got pneumonia and died like it's the 17th century?

 No.504293

>>504095
>>504109
DPRK has a history of imprisoning Americans who break the rules in some way, giving them some disproportionate sentence and then using them as bargaining chips in negotiations for things like reducing the sanctions. It's called "hostage diplomacy". This only works if the prisoner is alive, and they will be released and start talking, so such prisoners are not subjected to physical violence. Beating one of these prisoners into coma would be shooting themselves in the foot. And yes, a disease is a plausible explanation.
In any case the US administration at the time promoted the torture theory during the 2017-2018 missile crisis. Then they forgot about it when there was a detente and the story outlived its usefulness.

 No.504448

>>503059
no argument


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